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OCD and the GN... 3 weeks on...

Ok... Let me just throw it out there... Your GN is not "Perfect". It is not "Flawless". It's a unique piece of hardware that came off a mass production line. It is not identical to any other GN if you spend enough time examining it
In all fairness, I got my GN 3 weeks ago on Nov 25th. I moaned about a light (barely noticeable) horizontal band across the screen and only noticeable on very low light when scrolling.
3 week ons... I'm at peace. More and more threads (about the screen, dust particles, build quality etc) appear every day that confirm, the GN is not a hand made and individually scrutinized piece of swiss machinery. Nope. It was not manufactured in a clean room in the Jet propulsion Lab by NASA engineers in funny suits. It's a phone. Wait wait... don't go yet. I'm nearly done. The point is... After a week or so of bemoaning that it was perfect, I finally just started to use it, and...ENJOY it. Now after 3 weeks use, I could not be happier with it. Battery seems to have improved as time went on (or perhaps Im not starting at the screen so much anymore!) and I now treat the phone like a phone. A piece of expendable tech that I'll probably use for 12-18months.
Should it be 100% flawless? Perfect? Clean room hand built? for 700dollars? No. That money pays for the research and the technology in the phone. It doesn't stretch so far to include sapphire crystal display or hand assembly and post packing scrutiny by an OCD swiss guy with a loupe.
God damn it people, don't let a speck of dust, or a some slight variation in colour bands on the screen ruin your experience of a super device. If its flawed like a line of dead pixels, yes, return it, but if your really just unhappy because its not flawless, well don't be.. because nobodies GN is flawless. Look at it long enough and you'll find something you can pick at... Or you could jsut use the phone and marvel in its awesomeness and stop looking for a bit of dust you can only see when you get into the closet at night with a loupe, night vision googles, and an infrared lamp. Enjoy it

exactly why i'm just going to use the phone and not "look" for issues.

Oh my god, really? You write an absurdly too-long rant, that uses 5 too many smiley faces, telling us we should chill out over defections on our phones? You are telling us to not scrutinize our phones so much. Well don't scrutinize our posts so much, and don't tell us the proper way to go about enjoying our phones.
What a wiener.

sjgarbz said:
Oh my god, really? You write an absurdly too-long rant, that uses 5 too many smiley faces, telling us we should chill out over defections on our phones? You are telling us to not scrutinize our phones so much. Well don't scrutinize our posts so much, and don't tell us the proper way to go about enjoying our phones.
What a wiener.
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i put your post under an electron microscope and i came to the conclusion your wee wee is smaller than his. just sayin'.

pukemon said:
i put your post under an electron microscope and i came to the conclusion your wee wee is smaller than his. just sayin'.
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>>assuming im a dude

sjgarbz said:
>>assuming im a dude
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Must be that time of the month then...

sjgarbz said:
Oh my god, really? You write an absurdly too-long rant, that uses 5 too many smiley faces, telling us we should chill out over defections on our phones? You are telling us to not scrutinize our phones so much. Well don't scrutinize our posts so much, and don't tell us the proper way to go about enjoying our phones.
What a wiener.
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If you have nothing to contribute, well you know..
There are way too many threads about nitpicking at every single little detail. I'm not saying the phones don't have issues, but the OP is right. There are way too many threads about such minor details where people expect the phone to be some amazing device as if God himself had created it. It's not. It's a phone.
I think part of the problem is a lot of people are buying it off contract and thus feel that since they are paying so much the phone should be devoid of any and all slight defects.

joshnichols189 said:
If you have nothing to contribute, well you know..
There are way too many threads about nitpicking at every single little detail. I'm not saying the phones don't have issues, but the OP is right. There are way too many threads about such minor details where people expect the phone to be some amazing device as if God himself had created it. It's not. It's a phone.
I think part of the problem is a lot of people are buying it off contract and thus feel that since they are paying so much the phone should be devoid of any and all slight defects.
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It's not just that people are buying it off contract. This happens with pretty much every phone. Every time a phone is released there are always threads where people say things like "What problems should I look for?" My thing is, if you have to seek out the "problems" then they aren't problems. And only on forums like xda do people obsess over the most minor "defects". The average consumer doesn't return a phone 3 or 4 times because if they go into a pitch black room and turn the brightness down all the way and then look at an all black screen they see some sort of imperfection. This is the type of unreasonable expectation of pure perfection that you will only find in these online communities. People are flat out ridiculous in how they overreact to the slightest "issue" they perceive themselves to have on their devices. To the average person they can use the exact same phone with the exact same "issue" and not have a single problem.

sjgarbz said:
>>assuming im a dude
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I would assume you are Steven J. Garbarino, a dude.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sjgarbz

liquidarts said:
I would assume you are Steven J. Garbarino, a dude.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sjgarbz
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lol pwnt
10 char

liquidarts said:
I would assume you are Steven J. Garbarino, a dude.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sjgarbz
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Lmfao
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liquidarts said:
I would assume you are Steven J. Garbarino, a dude.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sjgarbz
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hahaha good one liquid, nailed him
what a twitter feed! sleeping material...

I agree with the OP. We should all be so lucky that the biggest problem we have is the slight imperfections on the screen. I've noticed the banding (streaks) on the display a few times already but only because it's been discussed ad nauseum. Do I like it? Not really. Do I need to obsess over it and return 3 different units for the same issue only to realize, that's just the way it is. It's not perfect but it's also not worth the amount of complaining that's been going on here. 36 hours in and I am pretty well pleased with it! The screen is gorgeous!
BUT, if Samsung is reading this, my message is this: What's your problem?!? Why isn't this thing perfect?!? I paid too much! I want signal from inside of a lead box! Work harder!

mysterioustko said:
People are flat out ridiculous in how they overreact to the slightest "issue" they perceive themselves to have on their devices.
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I whole heartedly and completely agree with you.

OEM battery available through t-mobile tech support!?

i see that there's a thread for the oem charger kit, but not for the battery itself. so anyway, i just called tmo tech support and told them that i have been having very inconsistent battery life. say today i unplugged after reaching 100%, then 6-7hrs later after waking up-i only have 69% left. it's been happening every other day now, and i purposely exit all active apps and clear the ram before unplugging, but still the same problem.
anyway, tmo is sending me a new battery for the sgs2 for free because i am still under the 90 battery warranty period. i do have to pay $11.99 for ups express shipping though, $7.99 for usps. AND i get to keep the current battery as well, so not bad for $11.99 and a new battery.
also, i'm on 2.3.6, rooted with some bloats removed/freezed, stock rom, with juice defender running, email sync is only at 4hrs. anybody have any idea on why my phone is acting like this? i know i'm not the only one with the problem, but any tips or comments are welcome. TIA.
i've checked tmo's website, but couldn't find the battery for sale, so this is fyi only.

Tmo does this when you call about the battery for just about every phone they sell. They're pretty good about sending of replacements.
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will they do it if i bought the phone from sam's club? i want a spare oem battery. found a guy selling on ebay for $22 but don't know if it's legit. he sold like 50 already.

I pulled the trigger and bought this:
http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Standar...PC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1325813942&sr=8-15

tzbigworm said:
I pulled the trigger and bought this:
http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Standar...PC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1325813942&sr=8-15
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That is exactly what I ordered. I have that same brand for my G2. It’s STILL working fine for over a year now. The charging holder is very convenient.

MMakoto said:
i see that there's a thread for the oem charger kit, but not for the battery itself. so anyway, i just called tmo tech support and told them that i have been having very inconsistent battery life. say today i unplugged after reaching 100%, then 6-7hrs later after waking up-i only have 69% left. it's been happening every other day now, and i purposely exit all active apps and clear the ram before unplugging, but still the same problem.
anyway, tmo is sending me a new battery for the sgs2 for free because i am still under the 90 battery warranty period. i do have to pay $11.99 for ups express shipping though, $7.99 for usps. AND i get to keep the current battery as well, so not bad for $11.99 and a new battery.
also, i'm on 2.3.6, rooted with some bloats removed/freezed, stock rom, with juice defender running, email sync is only at 4hrs. anybody have any idea on why my phone is acting like this? i know i'm not the only one with the problem, but any tips or comments are welcome. TIA.
i've checked tmo's website, but couldn't find the battery for sale, so this is fyi only.
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Cool, Thanks. I never had to do this and I bought a galaxy s2 yesterday and I called tmo to get the battery, and they are shipping me a new one. But I couldnt get it overnight, but I'm only getting charged $5. I was about to buy an OEM one for $50 at a store in NYC... Nice...

how long does it take to receive the battery from tmobile? they told me like a week... they said there was no way to expedite it out to me....

Radsolutionz said:
how long does it take to receive the battery from tmobile? they told me like a week... they said there was no way to expedite it out to me....
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It usually just takes a few days.
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i hope i get mine by tuesday

So is the GTMax just as good as the OEM batt? The GTMax is so much cheaper than the OEM.
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cOvertKEEN said:
So is the GTMax just as good as the OEM batt? The GTMax is so much cheaper than the OEM.
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Nope
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How does the battery compare to an original? I'd it even a decent backup battery?
androidtoy09 said:
That is exactly what I ordered. I have that same brand for my G2. It’s STILL working fine for over a year now. The charging holder is very convenient.
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83fb said:
How does the battery compare to an original? I'd it even a decent backup battery?
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The battery works just fine. Not a single problem and it lasts just about the same as the OEM battery if not better (maybe I’m just a lucky one) I have absolutely no issue with it beside it being labeled aftermarket I alternate it daily with my OEM to help prolong both.
IMHO, everyone should have at least one spare/backup battery for his/her phone.

I called them several times and none of the reps was willing to give me a free battery.
I told them about bad/inconsistent battery life. They told me I needed to call from a separate phone so they check my battery or something on my phone. They also said there would be a $20 service fee even if im under my 90 warranty period...
They also told me to just go back to the store and get a replacement phone...but no car so that's a no go.
So what EXACTLY do you guys say to get the free battery?! or did they just change the rules on that.

asianxtreme said:
I called them several times and none of the reps was willing to give me a free battery.
I told them about bad/inconsistent battery life. They told me I needed to call from a separate phone so they check my battery or something on my phone. They also said there would be a $20 service fee even if im under my 90 warranty period...
They also told me to just go back to the store and get a replacement phone...but no car so that's a no go.
So what EXACTLY do you guys say to get the free battery?! or did they just change the rules on that.
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If you're within the 14 day period they will make you exchange the device. If you call asking for a "free" anything they're gonna deny you.
#1 always say you're calling from a different phone, even if you're not.
#2 always be courteous, appear to be calm yet bothered.
#3 keep reiterating how "unacceptable" the battery life is.
#4 anything posted here like this thread is YMMV and may not always work for every call for every caller.

Muff Burner said:
If you're within the 14 day period they will make you exchange the device. If you call asking for a "free" anything they're gonna deny you.
#1 always say you're calling from a different phone, even if you're not.
#2 always be courteous, appear to be calm yet bothered.
#3 keep reiterating how "unacceptable" the battery life is.
#4 anything posted here like this thread is YMMV and may not always work for every call for every caller.
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I work for a certain company and I find this amusing...
I can tell you, you're doing it wrong.

chrischoi said:
I work for a certain company and I find this amusing...
I can tell you, you're doing it wrong.
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Tell us how to do it right?
Couldn't help but ask. PM would be nice if you don't want to post publicly

Just like my signature says... I'm not speaking on behalf of anyone or tricking anyone... These are my personal opinions.
Muff Burner said:
If you're within the 14 day period they will make you exchange the device.
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This is 100% true.
Muff Burner said:
If you call asking for a "free" anything they're gonna deny you.
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You won't get denied. It depends on the reason. If it's past the 14 days and it's a legitimate battery issue... you "kind of" get a free battery... Above post stating USPS and UPS is what you will be responsible for. The correct thing to do is they will have to at least on a minimum do a full reset. If it's still having the issue go back and they can more than likely just put the battery order through for you. Some reps may even do the battery as the first step. Depends on who you get.
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#1 always say you're calling from a different phone, even if you're not.
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You could get away with it. They may ask you to do a hard reset. I recommend taking the time and just visiting the store. Store reps are easier to deal with.
I personally am anyway.
Muff Burner said:
#2 always be courteous, appear to be calm yet bothered.
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This can be read like a book. Being polite will get you further. Stay calm. It's not Care or the Reps fault you may have received a faulty battery. I'm sure most of "us" as in Smart Phone users know that battery life was never that great. The more you use it the faster it dies. You "know" what you got yourself into. Don't yell at them because the phone doesn't have the battery life of a Samsung T139.
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#3 keep reiterating how "unacceptable" the battery life is.
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This really gets annoying. See above. You know what you got yourself into. If you are legitimately having issues... yes. It is unacceptable... But just because you want a spare. You may be caught and denied. The reps are here to keep you as a customer and keep you satisfied. Don't try to be deceiving... it's counter productive.
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It really depends on who you talk to and how knowledgeable they are. It's not some mathematical system that you keep repeating the word unacceptable and appear to be bothered that you get a battery.
So there is no right way. The best thing is just be honest. It's really if you need it or not and who you talk to.
After 14 days... if you are having issues, just go to the store. Bad battery? Just let the rep know. They should be able to figure it out. You'll be responsible for shipping.

Thanks for the protips.

I agree with chrischoi (weren't you on the amaze?)
The best way is to be friendly, every rep has to go through a protocol to troubleshoot the device, after checking off what needs to be done, they are then allowed to offer what can be done. But during all the wait, it doesn't hurt to be energetic and make small talk. Imagine this is their job and they have to deal with assholes all day, so it would be nice if you are nice to them. They are more than willing to send you replacement accessories, if you put them in a good mood.
1. You can say you spoke to a rep and they told you that accessories are under warranty, and you can just ask how does that work? "Do i send back my old battery etc"
2. Try to direct it more as a battery problem not a phone problem.
"i tested my phone with my sister/friends battery and hers definitely last longer, whereas my battery dies quickly in her phone."
3. Might as well request for a charger.
"could it be my charger, or cable? Do you think it might have fried the battery by being faulty? Am i able to replace that also?" "i heard having a bad charger will eventually kill the phone"
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Article: Tech breakthrough may double smartphone life

Take a look at this article! I've been praying for something like this for a long time!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57543673-1/tech-breakthrough-may-double-smartphone-life/

RaymondPJR said:
Take a look at this article! I've been praying for something like this for a long time!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57543673-1/tech-breakthrough-may-double-smartphone-life/
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Just the tech I want to see. Especially if they couple it with an improved battery tech.
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That's awesome! Gotta love some of the genius that comes out of MIT! (Still kinda wish I woulda gone there myself!)
Add that to the bandwidth tech they've developed and...well...awesome just isn't quite descriptive enough!
For those that didn't see it before, we had briefly discussed this in the modem thread.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545014/mit-researchers-increase-bandwidth-coded-tcp
Credit to Raymond for finding this article too! Just thought they should both be highlighted here!
Thanks for sharing the finds man! I can't wait to see what can be done with this stuff, or to find out what the MIT geniuses are working on next! I agree some battery improvements would just turn these devices into awe-inspiring beasts!
Though just a quick note that the two techs in these articles would alone greatly increase battery life!
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DocHoliday77 said:
That's awesome! Gotta love some of the genius that comes out of MIT! (Still kinda wish I woulda gone there myself!)
Add that to the bandwidth tech they've developed and...well...awesome just isn't quite descriptive enough!
For those that didn't see it before, we had briefly discussed this in the modem thread.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545014/mit-researchers-increase-bandwidth-coded-tcp
Credit to Raymond for finding this article too! Just thought they should both be highlighted here!
Thanks for sharing the finds man! I can't wait to see what can be done with this stuff, or to find out what the MIT geniuses are working on next! I agree some battery improvements would just turn these devices into awe-inspiring beasts!
Though just a quick note that the two techs in these articles would alone greatly increase battery life!
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Thanks guys! Yeah this is all great news and btw Doc i have found your threads some of the most informative Ive come across on XDA.

The part that makes me sad is acknowledging that nothing I is benefiting from this tech.

tdizzle404 said:
Thanks guys! Yeah this is all great news and btw Doc i have found your threads some of the most informative Ive come across on XDA.
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I love doc
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Wonder how many chips we have in our phones
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DocHoliday77 said:
That's awesome! Gotta love some of the genius that comes out of MIT! (Still kinda wish I woulda gone there myself!)
Add that to the bandwidth tech they've developed and...well...awesome just isn't quite descriptive enough!
For those that didn't see it before, we had briefly discussed this in the modem thread.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545014/mit-researchers-increase-bandwidth-coded-tcp
Credit to Raymond for finding this article too! Just thought they should both be highlighted here!
Thanks for sharing the finds man! I can't wait to see what can be done with this stuff, or to find out what the MIT geniuses are working on next! I agree some battery improvements would just turn these devices into awe-inspiring beasts!
Though just a quick note that the two techs in these articles would alone greatly increase battery life!
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Thank you so much, I read through Flipboard pretty much every day, lol! TMOB had better be in on both of these whenever they are readily available or I'll leave them! Of the two, I am most exited about the battery tech. Battery technology has been lagging while everything else has improved by leaps and bounds. I'm already in awe of the developers and development that happens here as well as researchers from MIT and anywhere else!

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Thank you so much, I read through Flipboard pretty much every day, lol! TMOB had better be in on both of these whenever they are readily available or I'll leave them! Of the two, I am most exited about the battery tech. Battery technology has been lagging while everything else has improved by leaps and bounds. I'm already in awe of the developers and development that happens here as well as researchers from MIT and anywhere else!
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I hope tmobiles on board too! The article about the bandwidth tech mentioned that there were already a few companies signed on, so I'm hoping!
I would guess that since both are MIT related (one said it was an offshoot from MIT) that anyone in on one, could easily be at least looking into the other.
Though now that I'm thinking about it, the life doubling tech would more likely be picked up by manufacturers than the carriers. Lets just hope Sammy goes after it! (And pray that apple doesn't decide to steal....I mean patent it themselves!)
(No id rather not get into that discussion! There's a thread for that! Just a quick jab is all! )
As for battery tech, who knows what they're up to. At this point id just like to see more widespread use of the LiPo (Lithium-Polymer) batteries. As far as Im aware they've sorted out most of the problems and they are superior to Li-Ion batteries in every way! Some smartphones already ship with them, but last I looked they were a pretty rare thing for replacements.
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...(And pray that apple doesn't decide to steal....I mean patent it themselves!)
(No id rather not get into that discussion! There's a thread for that! Just a quick jab is all! )
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Lol, funny! Just read the other day they had to post another apology in Europe because it was a non-apology, then they were slapped with another order to post it again in a larger font, so what they did was use some Javascript that only rendered the main portion of the page no matter what resolution you were using meaning anyone had to scroll down to see the apology. They are looking really bad lately and it's sad.
As for battery tech, who knows what they're up to. At this point id just like to see more widespread use of the LiPo (Lithium-Polymer) batteries. As far as Im aware they've sorted out most of the problems and they are superior to Li-Ion batteries in every way! Some smartphones already ship with them, but last I looked they were a pretty rare thing for replacements.
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Never heard of Lithium-Polymer batteries, I'm going to google it as soon as I get my phone reconfigured. I just flashed Wicked V7 today.

One of the things that makes em really cool is they are shapeable...if that's even a word! So rather than being constrained to a certain shape cell you could theoretically have something like the case itself be the battery. They are also supposed to have longer life both in number if cycles and runtime between cycles. Initially they were kind if unstable and could lead to leaks or even fire or explosion. I think I've heard that a lot of the issues have been solved though.
They can be smaller, lighter, stronger, and the fact they can be made to just about any shape means it could open a whole new area if design for all sorts of stuff!
I'm going off memory on all of this so if I got something wrong I apologize, byt I'm oretty sure I'm remembering pretty accurately.
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"more than 65 percent of its energy"
The "its" part of that sentence is referring to the single or multiple chips themselves, not the entire phone. So, this will increase the efficiency of that particular chip and only while in standby mode. I don't see how this would increase the phones battery life by 50% since cell standby is always very low on the list of things that consume my battery. Unless you count when I leave it unplugged and go to bed, for those 6 hours cell standby is top of the list. But, how often do we do that, and do we care about how long we can leave is unused? I think this will help save the broadcast stations some decent power, but as far as our battery life goes, I think its a lot of hype for nothing.
Let's say these chips do increase the efficiency from say 35% to 100%. Also, lets say cell standby uses 10% of your battery. I'm pretty sure mine is often less than that, but I will start recording this # more closely. That translates to an overall power consumption change of 6.5%... worth doing, but not worth phone users getting excited about.
I should also point out that the new chips cannot possibly increase efficiency to 100%, and I did not take into account the power use of the newly added chip because I have no idea how much power it will consume. Both of those things will cause the 6.5% to decrease, but without more detailed information on the chip I cannot even speculate as to how much.

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"more than 65 percent of its energy"
The "its" part of that sentence is referring to the single or multiple chips themselves, not the entire phone. So, this will increase the efficiency of that particular chip and only while in standby mode. I don't see how this would increase the phones battery life by 50% since cell standby is always very low on the list of things that consume my battery. Unless you count when I leave it unplugged and go to bed, for those 6 hours cell standby is top of the list. But, how often do we do that, and do we care about how long we can leave is unused? I think this will help save the broadcast stations some decent power, but as far as our battery life goes, I think its a lot of hype for nothing.
Let's say these chips do increase the efficiency from say 35% to 100%. Also, lets say cell standby uses 10% of your battery. I'm pretty sure mine is often less than that, but I will start recording this # more closely. That translates to an overall power consumption change of 6.5%... worth doing, but not worth phone users getting excited about.
I should also point out that the new chips cannot possibly increase efficiency to 100%, and I did not take into account the power use of the newly added chip because I have no idea how much power it will consume. Both of those things will cause the 6.5% to decrease, but without more detailed information on the chip I cannot even speculate as to how much.
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...and the only way to make it more efficient is by reducing the power used in standby. However, signals can be distorted if moving from a low standby mode to high power, so current technologies keep standby levels fairly high. That wastes electricity and is partly what causes smartphone owners to recharge their devices multiple times a day.
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It seems to me this sentence refers to existing technology-the current state of affairs, not to this new discovery. We'll just have to wait and see.

This is just a little bit off topic for Android.....But it is just too cool not to share!
This is what happens when I try to research stuff using Google! I get a little sidetracked!
All I can say is, wow! Imagine your smartphone having this as a feature!!!!
You gotta love MIT!
http://youtu.be/SoHeWgLvlXI
Its a camera!

I was just told Samsung is going to "turn off" the Note 7

In a chat with US Cellular I was just told "with the recall, it will not be able to stay on your account much longer, due at some point, Samsung will be turning off all the phones on all carriers."
I asked when but she said they do not know the date yet.
She also said I could re activate my Note 7 (which I didn't think was allowed) if the Note 5 I purchased online doesn't work properly.

It is inevitable.
They will try to get everyone to return or exchange their Note 7s first. And then this kill switch to reach out to those who has been living under a rock.
Unless you root the device and circumvent the kill switch.
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Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.

BozQ said:
My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
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I can understand that. That is until you start saying things like people "have a problem" and there is "something wrong" with people because they still have a note 7. Br0adband has said these things and worse.

Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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what is more laughable is that he has never owned one. From memory he had/has an S7E and was thinking about upgrading (before all the shxtstorm).
I am willing to suffer a phone sizzle if it means I get a few more weeks with this fantastic phone. I understand the risks, they are significantly low, but I also understand the impact of a total battery failure (running without the 256G SD card currently to avoid damage to it in the event of the phone internally melting).
I do not appreciate BrOadbands incessant drilling of existing N7 users, worse than a 19 year old cop doing the "respect my authority" thing.
Only 2 phones have cooked in Australia, from the original batch (1 was a forum member on Whirlpool forums, the other Samsung indicated when they were quoting numbers), we were getting the second batch a bit later than you guys in the US which may have meant slightly improved production process (made in Vietnam though, if that means anything).
I am however(unfortunately) getting this replaced, as I do fly and the American FAA getting a bit nervous and doing the banning meant globally all airlines followed not to mention that Samsung are giving some financial incentives that may not last forever to replace with S7E/S7 (got told almost 2 weeks ago now by a local Samsung phone rep "your S7E is coming within 21 days"...)
I think part of the product pull by Samsung was not about an inherent fault in all units, but some inevitable butt covering, since the product reputation was tainted, no way to recover from that, the phone would be impossible to sell with all the transportation bans, and how many different battery icon colours could they use to indicate if you owned a v1,2 or 3 lol.
I do believe it had a higher than normal failure rate though, esp in the US, my speculation is the soft construction of the battery was allowing it to get sufficiently distorted during assembly that some further condition was causing battery failure for those excessively distorted (such as plate to plate crystal growth).
Edit: look at this discussion about li-ion failure modes: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithium_failures.htm
Essentially, it says that the anode SEI layer can break down in as low temps as 80degC including from external heating. I know when we had that dodgy Ocululus update, my CPU when I checked was over 70degC and the whole phone was very warm due to very high current draw due to the max CPU load. So heat from both current draw from the battery, and external heat from the CPU getting toasty would not have helped any phone where the battery was also a little squashed/distorted when packed into the phone during assembly.
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NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8

ilordvader said:
NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
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Are you in the UK?

chrisnosleep said:
Are you in the UK?
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im in Dubai
Hope this Helps -
Is there a way to disable updates without root?

This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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CerveCesar said:
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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Would have preferred they nerfed the CPU instead. And disable fast charge and wireless charging. All to prevent it from generating too much heat. Limiting to 60% probably isn't going to help much.
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If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?

LightningJay said:
Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Sorry. I didn't.
It was powered off for a few days. And I just got my V20. Turned it on to get some files out but I was shocked to find my Note 7 shut off. And then it rebooted and update my unit. And as expected, it was the 60% battery update.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Was your Note rooted?
Thanks

evo4g63t said:
If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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If you paid any attention to the pictures we were shown about the burned out phones. There was a a complete burn out and the phones were destroyed. Not a single phone was just damaged a little and stopped working. That shows the battery had a complete or near complete charge.
The batteries burned out completely because of the amount of charge held into them. Not because of their chemical composition. If you know what I mean.
If you ever worked with batteries; You'll know they get very hot and can expand as they overcharge. Thus expansion plus the new sharp aluminum frame inside, may have been 1 of the reasons for ignition we believe.
Keeping your charge at 60/80% lowers the risk of ignition by a lot.
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I actually think BroadBand or whatever actually did post a receipt of the purchase, although everyone knows you can find that on the internet. The person is a far-left lib/progressive who thinks their safe spaces are in jeopardy because a phone (Iphone 7 anyone??) may catch fire.
Anyway, I seriously, seriously doubt they will disable the phone completely. You bought the phone, and it is your phone. If you choose to use another battery inside the note 7, then press on (I have heard reports of folks trying this...it worked, but not sure of the specifics. One guy cracked his screen trying to get the battery out).
Plus, it is an FCC violation to disrupt a communications device. You don't know the person's circumstances. They may live on the fringe of civilization and haven't heard the news or didn't get the push. The first person that is harmed because their working phone was disabled will lead to humongous lawsuits.
A Sprint employee in Newnan Georgia told my daughter that Samsung would be shutting off her phone, and it was against the law for her to keep using. They pressured her hard, made her cry (she's young, first time away from home) because she couldn't get in touch with me. She didn't know what to do because she didn't want to get "arrested," which was the implication they were trying to make. She ended up getting pressured in a S7 because she was afraid of getting in trouble (and she is super furious for getting duped). She wanted to keep the phone until the release of the s8. She was in the store to pay her bill and they saw the phone sticking out of her pocket.
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By the way, Samsung has publicly stated that less than half of the phones were returned. That indicates a million or so are still out there.
I promise you, PROMISE YOU, that the very FIRST Note7 to catch fire despite the recall (because not being returned), would be splattered over every news channel.
How many post-recall reports of exploding batteries have we seen??? As far as I can tell, ZERO!!!! Don't mean it won't happen, but I think the danger is over-blown. Samsung did it because of the media coverage. A single injury (if they had not recalled) given the history of the phone would have resulted in 10s of millions of dollars in damages via litigation.

BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st

ilordvader said:
Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)

BozQ said:
I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
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I got this Notification few days back
so seem all get the Software update at the same time

Question The most disappointing phone that currently exists.

I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.

Return it. best of luck.

goodburner said:
I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
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how long did you manage to use oneplus 9 pro?

Pvt WhoOkid said:
Return it. best of luck.
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amazon does not usually allow refunds, they only provide replacements
I have been using it for 24 hours now, why is the touch response so DAMN LAGGY at 120 FPS and HYPER TOUCH ENABLED?!? I compared it with Oppo Find X2 Pro with the exact same Resolution and FPS and Oppo is butter smooth and this damn thing crawls like a village drunk when opening Accubattery from the status BAR.
OnePlus will never be successful in US after this. They just lied and I was dumb and believed them.

goodburner said:
amazon does not usually allow refunds, they only provide replacements
I have been using it for 24 hours now, why is the touch response so DAMN LAGGY at 120 FPS and HYPER TOUCH ENABLED?!? I compared it with Oppo Find X2 Pro with the exact same Resolution and FPS and Oppo is butter smooth and this damn thing crawls like a village drunk.
OnePlus will never be successful in US after this. They just lied and I was dumb and believed them.
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Incorrect. Check again. I'm pretty sure you can return it.

goodburner said:
I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
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I have it for about 3 weeks now and I didn't notice any slowdowns in browsing web on Chrome. I don't know why do you care about benchmark results ? If they drop performance to level where you can save some battery but you didn't feel slower, for me it's very good decision and this is called optimisation.
The only thing is that they should inform us about it.

People all complain about benchmarking! You buy a phone to use it! not to benchmark it! Jeeez

PKkeys said:
People all complain about benchmarking! You buy a phone to use it! not to benchmark it! Jeeez
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You have three types of people those who buy a phone to use, those who buy to benchmark and the numbers mean life or death. And those who just like to complain on some forums online .

Obvious troll is obvious

I haven't noticed any lag or stuttering. Been using the phone for about a month now. Very smooth and no obvious throttling even though I'm sure it's occurring.

goodburner said:
I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
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amazon does not usually allow refunds, they only provide replacements
I have been using it for 24 hours now, why is the touch response so DAMN LAGGY at 120 FPS and HYPER TOUCH ENABLED?!? I compared it with Oppo Find X2 Pro with the exact same Resolution and FPS and Oppo is butter smooth and this damn thing crawls like a village drunk when opening Accubattery from the status BAR.
OnePlus will never be successful in US after this. They just lied and I was dumb and believed them.
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My God. You use a phone 24 hours and then go complaining about it like this? Calm down mate! You want to immediately sue them, geez. "Utter trash", haha. Not one professional review is this negative - why could that be? And then your title: Like everyone is this extermely negative "The most disappointing phone that currently exists". You could add "of the universe" for extra drama, you know. Get a grip.
Only thing I know of is some battery issues, that could well be resolved with updates. I have no issues at all (besides that battery life is a little dissapointing): one of the smootest experiences ever - not kidding.
Ask yourself the questions: Why am I litteraly the only one complaining in this magnitude? Could it be me?
Could it be that it's just a faulty phone? It happens you know.
Are you on the latest firmware?

flushell said:
My God. You use a phone 24 hours and then go complaining about it like this? Calm down mate! You want to immediately sue them, geez. "Utter trash", haha. Not one professional review is this negative - why could that be? And then your title: Like everyone is this extermely negative "The most disappointing phone that currently exists". You could add "of the universe" for extra drama, you know. Get a grip.
Only thing I know of is some battery issues, that could well be resolved with updates. I have no issues at all (besides that battery life is a little dissapointing): one of the smootest experiences ever - not kidding.
Ask yourself the questions: Why am I litteraly the only one complaining in this magnitude? Could it be me?
Could it be that it's just a faulty phone? It happens you know.
Are you on the latest firmware?
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Well said.
Same experience here.

flushell said:
My God. You use a phone 24 hours and then go complaining about it like this? Calm down mate! You want to immediately sue them, geez. "Utter trash", haha. Not one professional review is this negative - why could that be? And then your title: Like everyone is this extermely negative "The most disappointing phone that currently exists". You could add "of the universe" for extra drama, you know. Get a grip.
Only thing I know of is some battery issues, that could well be resolved with updates. I have no issues at all (besides that battery life is a little dissapointing): one of the smootest experiences ever - not kidding.
Ask yourself the questions: Why am I litteraly the only one complaining in this magnitude? Could it be me?
Could it be that it's just a faulty phone? It happens you know.
Are you on the latest firmware?
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No trolling here bro. So please don't mistake this for one, but this reply. Just the best. You're my forum hero!