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HTC is crap...

Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.

vboyz103 said:
Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.

I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.

Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.

take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !

vboyz103 said:
Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?

go4the1 said:
Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......

EtherealRemnant said:
One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.

go4the1 said:
yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...

IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.

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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.

Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.

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Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.

Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.

EtherealRemnant said:
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.

Kshawn said:
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.

^Do you really need to post that twice?

I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point

adelaney said:
You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.

Why do so many people complain so much...

I've had a lot of phones and sold a lot as well. Just recently selling my Photon so that I can grab the Epic Touch. This phone is amazing, but everytime I go to a forum it's always a posts complaining of screen colors, data speeds, screen size etc.
I'm so tired of this stuff it's ridiculous. True this phone has some some flaws like the inability to connect to the media hub right now, but that's minor and I'm sure it'll get fixed. But the threads where people is posting the issues that I stated above, have been talked about forever. And for the complaining of the screen size, everyone knew how big the phone was before it was released and some people even had the chance to play with the phone before actually buying the phone and they still bought it, only to complain later that it's too big or to complain about a another minor issue. Hell, it's even been reviews posted all over youtube from various people. and people still bought the phone...wtf.
As for the data issue, I'm suer people is coming from other devices on sprint, so the data speeds shouldnt be a suprise. In addition, Sprint is working on numerous towers so this could affecting the data speeds.
Then people are complaining about screen color and all that stuff. It takes a very bored person that has nothing to do in life to do than to look and stare at phone screens just to find out the white aren't white, the black colors aren't black enought etc. These are phones...not computers, not Plasma TV's.
All in all, it seem to me that a lot of people is just looking to find something wrong with this phone. It's like they hating on the phone. It's a great phone so people should just deal with it. I know everybody have their own opinions and its cool. But if you go to Evo forums, the Epic Forums..any sprint android phone forum, its the same threads everywhere...data speeds, screen colors...etc.
Lets stop it all and just enjoy this beast of a phone....
Sorry for the rant

And you complain people complaining?
I have not seen people comlain much about this phone, you are not exaggerating are you?
I had EVO 3D I've seen worst.

I agree with justwonder, seems pretty mild to me. It's only natural for people to put the phone through its paces when they get it, it is afterall a 20 month decision and that's fine.

People are more likely to complain than compliment.

justwonder said:
And you complain people complaining?
I have not seen people comlain much about this phone, you are not exaggerating are you?
I had EVO 3D I've seen worst.
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Look...Im not complaining...well maybe...lol. But there has been a few people complaing about the phone. Not here on XDA but on other forums. It's not a big deal to me...I'm loving it so far.
Oh well....

Lets face it, there will never be the "perfect phone" where everything is unbelievably perfect. But this dam phone is pretty dam close!!! Lol

cds0699 said:
I agree with justwonder, seems pretty mild to me. It's only natural for people to put the phone through its paces when they get it, it is afterall a 20 month decision and that's fine.
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Yeah...you're right ..a 20 month decision. But within that 20 month decison and since this will be a 2 year agreement for most of us, did research and watched reviews of the Galaxy S II before we made the final decison.
It's similiar to buying a car. You do research on it before you go out and buy it.
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aaron130 said:
Lets face it, there will never be the "perfect phone" where everything is unbelievably perfect. But this dam phone is pretty dam close!!! Lol
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I totally agree with you. I'm giving you a "thanks" for that one

as was already said compared to what the E3D forum went through this is so mild as to have not even registered on my radar whatsoever. I know there have been a few "this one thing isn't perfect" or "this thing is broken on mine" posts and threads...but...not the onslaught of complaints, valid or not, that you make it seem like. I have not even given it a thought. I also expect them to die down in the next few weeks. Go check in on the E3D forum for a few hours, you'd think the phone came out 12 hours ago from the looks of things, 3 months later.
The phone just came out, frankly it seems like the least bugs and complaints I've ever seen on a rollout of such an anticipated phone.

daneurysm said:
as was already said compared to what the E3D forum went through this is so mild as to have not even registered on my radar whatsoever. I know there have been a few "this one thing isn't perfect" or "this thing is broken on mine" posts and threads...but...not the onslaught of complaints, valid or not, that you make it seem like. I have not even given it a thought. I also expect them to die down in the next few weeks. Go check in on the E3D forum for a few hours, you'd think the phone came out 12 hours ago from the looks of things, 3 months later.
The phone just came out, frankly it seems like the least bugs and complaints I've ever seen on a rollout of such an anticipated phone.
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lol...Having owned the OG Evo and the Evo 3D, I already know about the Evo forums.
Yeah, I haven't noticed that many bugs with this phone either. I talked my cousin into exchanging his photon for one today.

plmiller0905 said:
Yeah...you're right ..a 20 month decision. But within that 20 month decison and since this will be a 2 year agreement for most of us, did research and watched reviews of the Galaxy S II before we made the final decison.
It's similiar to buying a car. You do research on it before you go out and buy it.
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But those comlaints help people research better than those review sites.
Before I bought EVO 3D, I knew exactly what flaws the phone has, because of people complaining, you wouldn't find that in those review website.
So let people complaining, it would help other decide it's a deal breaker or not...

OP: Dude its not ridiculous....that's what forums are for.
Don't tell other people they're ridiculous when they "complain" about things they're frustrated with or don't understand cause THATS what ruins forums.
Think I said this but that's what forums are for.
There are and will be solutions to improve a lot of what you think are ridiculous complaints.
Just don't go to those threads if you can't offer something constructive...no worries.
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Some men have vaginas. They complain.
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Wow a complainer complaining about complainers, ha
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plmiller0905 said:
Look...Im not complaining...well maybe...lol. But there has been a few people complaing about the phone. Not here on XDA but on other forums. It's not a big deal to me...I'm loving it so far.
Oh well....
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Cool story bro

If you need a chuckle view general:)

I forgot how funny the general sections are....I mean u have people spending more time disecting and searching for issues then enjoying the phones...gs2 section is even worst...u have guys putting displays to 0 brightness and sitting in complete dark closets looking for blobs and streaks. Guys trying to break their phone just to find issues....Tomorrow i gonna get a six pack of coors light and come to general section for entertainment

It's the same for every phone.. you should have read some of the threads on the Nexus S after release

STi489 said:
I forgot how funny the general sections are....I mean u have people spending more time disecting and searching for issues then enjoying the phones...gs2 section is even worst...u have guys putting displays to 0 brightness and sitting in complete dark closets looking for blobs and streaks. Guys trying to break their phone just to find issues....Tomorrow i gonna get a six pack of coors light and come to general section for entertainment
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Guessing that is aimed at people like me. Listen mate, if you wait 6 weeks for a phone you want to make sure it's right.
As it happens, the auto brightness is really aggressive, which means the screen automatically sets it's self very low and therefore it's very obviously patchy. If you turn the screen up it looks fine but this obviously isn't that practical.
There's nothing wrong with asking a few questions.

Tbh that is exactly what you should expect when you are a website originally built for developers and there has been the release of a new phone primarily aimed at developers.
They'll naturally want to know the capabilities and issues with their phone, more so even than another phone like S2.
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It has started! I hope you have your six pack ready, STi489. I m with you, great entertainment here.

STi489 said:
I forgot how funny the general sections are....I mean u have people spending more time disecting and searching for issues then enjoying the phones...gs2 section is even worst...u have guys putting displays to 0 brightness and sitting in complete dark closets looking for blobs and streaks. Guys trying to break their phone just to find issues....Tomorrow i gonna get a six pack of coors light and come to general section for entertainment
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HA HA yeah it's proper funny all this lark.
I can't stop laughing at all those weeks I waited and the £530 I paid.
Every time I think of the bugs and problems, I have to pick myself up the floor from letting out a hearty laugh. I just can't help myself. In fact... I think there's one coming now....can't....stop....myself.......HA HA HA!
Come on now. We bought a new phone. It was expensive. We waited through delay after delay, and uncertainty from retailers telling us one thing then changing it at the last second to something else.
We're trying to enjoy it, we really are, but the problems are stopping us from doing so.
Oh...and Coors Light sucks. Drink some proper beer.
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STi489 said:
I forgot how funny the general sections are....I mean u have people spending more time disecting and searching for issues then enjoying the phones...gs2 section is even worst...u have guys putting displays to 0 brightness and sitting in complete dark closets looking for blobs and streaks. Guys trying to break their phone just to find issues....Tomorrow i gonna get a six pack of coors light and come to general section for entertainment
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Coors Light? Now that is funny.

phazerorg said:
Coors Light? Now that is funny.
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That was my take away as well. Ha!

Lol...hey low calories keep me nice and thin
phazerorg said:
Coors Light? Now that is funny.
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STi489 said:
Lol...hey low calories keep me nice and thin
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Drink your own p!ss instead.
It will taste nicer, have less calories and probably get you more drunk than coors light ever will!!

Says the guy who returned a 10.1 with a dead pixel. OP
Would you buy a brand new car that has a chip in the windscreen?
Would you buy a brand new plasma that has image burn?
I think anybody that notices a flaw in a product of high value is going to moan and complain. Were only human.
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NatTheCat said:
Says the guy who returned a 10.1 with a dead pixel. OP
Would you buy a brand new car that has a chip in the windscreen?
Would you buy a brand new plasma that has image burn?
I think anybody that notices a flaw in a product of high value is going to moan and complain. Were only human.
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A phone/tablet/monitor with a dead pixel, car with a chipped windshield, or a plasma HDTV with image burn are real reasons to complain/return the item. I have no problem with someone wanting to return a Nexus they bought if it has a line through the screen or the volume buttons aren't working properly.
The difference here is that most people are complaining about extremely subjective things, and frankly getting really nit-picky about finding "problems".
Its like returning a car because "it just doesn't handle right for me", a plasma HDTV because "it doesn't look very good with my stereo equipment", or a phone because "the menu button doesn't work the way I thought it would".
But this isn't exclusive to the Galaxy Nexus. People like to complain about every phone that comes out. Most of the people complaining don't even own the phone either. If you read any forum within a week after a device comes out, it'll make you feel like the device is an absolute POS that you shouldn't have paid $5 for. Get the device for yourself and make your own decision, I'm sure you'll be much happer with it.
Anyways, OP, I'm with you. Take all these threads as pure comedic relief. There's no reason to put any stock into what these people are saying. Read it for fun, form your own opinions after you use the device.

I got a complaint and i dont even have one yet. And that is just it. I dont have one yet.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

Uhhh ..thanks for letting me know what p!ss tastes like...but I'll pass.
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Drink your own p!ss instead.
It will taste nicer, have less calories and probably get you more drunk than coors light ever will!!
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Nexus Back Camera Swap with a SII / SIII

Hi there Nexus owners, I currently own a Nexus S, and I plan on switching to a Galaxy Nexus but I was wondering since the Sa Nexus camera is lacking in the numbers when it comes to megapixels, does anyone know of the possibilities of swapping the camera of an SII (8mp) with that of our phone?
My Nexus S takes good enough pictures at 5mp but I just want to justify the lack of a need for the SIII over the Nexus.
I found the back camera for an SII for sale here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...ltDomain_0&hash=item3a73f3b2f3#ht_3470wt_1378

nice double post. i'll reply here too:
No. Its not going to happen. Seriously people?

Seriously. It's just one of those days. You know it had to happen with the influx of gnex flying out the door recently.
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Sorry about the double post, I had to when I noticed the post right after mine stating "All Questions to Go into the Q&A Section".
So why do you think its not going to happen? Any insights?

@rbiter said:
Seriously. It's just one of those days. You know it had to happen with the influx of gnex flying out the door recently.
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ugh..... I know
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So why do you think its not going to happen? Any insights?
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Because you can't just take apart 2 phones and swap parts frankenstein style. Just because they're both phone cameras doesn't mean they're "plug and play". These things aren't desktop computers, their parts are not interchangeable.
If you think that the camera on the GNex is that bad (it actually isn't), and a phone camera is that important to you, don't buy the GNex.

Thanks for the input, I brought it up only because I know a fairly similar act was successfully pulled off with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G, with the front camera swap. Maybe someone with better knowledge of the internals can give some insight on what differences exist if there are. I dont mind getting the GNEX to be frank, way to much pros over the cons, but I can't wait to be able to swap out parts off a phone on the fly like a computer. Now thats going to be the best thing that happened to the phone industry after Android.

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Thanks for the input, I brought it up only because I know a fairly similar act was successfully pulled off with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G, with the front camera swap.
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The Galaxy S and Galaxy S4G are effectively the same phone, one just has a faster radio.
...but I can't wait to be able to swap out parts off a phone on the fly like a computer. Now thats going to be the best thing that happened to the phone industry after Android.
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This isn't ever going to happen.

martonikaj said:
This isn't ever going to happen.
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Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.

fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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Phones have been closed proprietary hardware systems since the modern smartphone. They're getting more closed and proprietary as time goes on. If you want better performance, battery life, and design you need them to be closed, sealed devices.
Even laptops are going this way. If you wanna swap parts get a dekstop computer.

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Maybe someone with better knowledge of the internals can give some insight on what differences exist if there are.
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The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S II camera modules are totally different. If the SII camera worked out of the box with the Galaxus' ISP (which is quite possible,) the connectors are completely different. It would require so much work that it just wouldn't be worth it by any stretch.
That and it probably wouldn't even fit inside the phone.

fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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How many universal parts/standards do you see on the inside of phones? Even if parts were more universal your phone would be uglier than Frankenstein and look like a mummy with all the duct tape keeping it together so you have something usable. A lot of things would have to become standard before swapping parts in and out even becomes thinkable. Think when a thought pops happens upon your head.
let it be.

When i read threads like this or those "can i install Gingerbread on gnex? " i really think these are TROLLS trying to get people mad...
Makes no sense, you want a better camera? Get a nikkon camera... I dont even see the point on better cameras on a phone.. If i can take a picture to put a Face on my contact or to take any fast photo for a quick reference.. Im ok.. Now if I want really good pictures for a wedding, 15 years daughter party or any special moment.. Id hire a professional photographer.. Thats all about it
Ppl tends to be really stupid about this, like iphone fan Boys.. When they figured 4S its a piece of crap they only got left to say oh but the camera its awesome... Yeah?? Better than a nikkon 24mp / 300 photos per second / 2milles zoom 250gb internal memory 1 touch in screen per 300 photos?... I say go to hell
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Thanks for ur inputs guys. That been said if you are a member of XDA then I will think you won't be one to comfortably accept what the manufacturer gave u as is, keep it in your pocket and feel satisfied, we are here to tweak, tinker and learn from these devices, some of us at least.
If no one challenged what manufacturers have handed down then there won't be a need for MIUI, Voodoo, Ezekeel etc. I was only looking to see the possibilities I am not an electronic head to know exactly what can be or cannot be done. But I sure can don't mind satisfying my curiosities by raising questions i am unsure about, so call me a troll if u want. "That don't faze me foo".
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fixedonfixies said:
Thanks for ur inputs guys. That been said if you are a member of XDA then I will think you won't be one to comfortably accept what the manufacturer gave u as is, keep it in your pocket and feel satisfied, we are here to tweak, tinker and learn from these devices, some of us at least.
If no one challenged what manufacturers have handed down then there won't be a need for MIUI, Voodoo, Ezekeel etc. I was only looking to see the possibilities I am not an electronic head to know exactly what can be or cannot be done. But I sure can don't mind satisfying my curiosities by raising questions i am unsure about, so call me a troll if u want. "That don't faze me foo".
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Even if possible, if. You got enough money to buy 2 phones just to swap cameras, or lets put it this way, the camera its so portant to you that you dont mind spending over 1k USD just to swap the camera and with the risk of damaging the 2 phones in the process (as you said "you are not an electronic head") so risk its even higher of messing all the things up.. And wasting 1k USD?? Ok thats your money its your problem but dont Think any decent person around here will lead you to that and as i said if the camera its so important, dude theres plenty devices out there with 8/12 mp cameras and you can always flash some stock/custom ICS room to that device.
So you can get your camera with ICS in a reasonable way and any1 could help you accomplish that
Cheers
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Sjael said:
The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S II camera modules are totally different. If the SII camera worked out of the box with the Galaxus' ISP (which is quite possible,) the connectors are completely different. It would require so much work that it just wouldn't be worth it by any stretch.
That and it probably wouldn't even fit inside the phone.
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The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
msedek said:
Even if possible, if. You got enough money to buy 2 phones just to swap cameras, or lets put it this way, the camera its so portant to you that you dont mind spending over 1k USD just to swap the camera and with the risk of damaging the 2 phones in the process (as you said "you are not an electronic head") so risk its even higher of messing all the things up.. And wasting 1k USD?? Ok thats your money its your problem but dont Think any decent person around here will lead you to that and as i said if the camera its so important, dude theres plenty devices out there with 8/12 mp cameras and you can always flash some stock/custom ICS room to that device.
So you can get your camera with ICS in a reasonable way and any1 could help you accomplish that
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OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..

PsiAdster said:
The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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Well not 1k USD but 700 then thats not the point
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PsiAdster said:
The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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Exactly. If you don't like questions maybe you should stay out of QnA.

fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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Don't forget the duct tape and jb-weld.

I still don't get why people are so worried with the GN's camera. I have both (GN & GS2) and can't tell from a glance "oh, this is the GN and this is the GS2" from looking at a picture.
- both are back illuminated sensors
- a 1920x1080 screen is 2 megapixels, most professional photographers say that 5 megapixels is more than enough, above is only useful if you *print* on large medias (eg. posters)
- both have the same sensor size
It is true that the GN had focus oddities and no image stabilization but this was fixed in 4.0.4. Don't forget that the GN has 2 CPUs (Cortex M3) dedicated solely to the camera subsystem. This is why there's instant shoot on that device.

Also consider that things change WAY too fast in this industry to develop standards. Intel can make a new CPU and ride on it for 2-3 years before they need to make a new one, even with AMD nipping at its heels. And when they make their CPU, they make it however they want, and the OEMs will build the form factor around it.
Smartphone companies do not have the same luxury. People want their sensor-laden connected supercomputers to fit comfortably in their hands, and they want it right now. If someone were to try to come up with a standard CPU, it would be obsolete before the ink dried on the standards page. Look how long it took them to agree on MicroUSB, and that's just a port.
Company: Here's your camera standard, the C5. Plug it into any board and you're good to go.
OEM: Only 8 megapixels? No backlight? Not good enough.
Company. OK, here's the C6.
Only 12 megapixels? NO CMOS sensor?
And on it goes.

Disappointed in Samsung and Rogers

I extremely disappointed in both Samsung and Rogers, and as a result, I am back on iOS as I type this message.
I sold my S2 i9100 on Craigslist and switched from Fido to Rogers to get an S3 on a three year contract. The S3 was beautiful for the first few hours. By midnight that night, I noticed some serious artifacts on the screen (there are many posts on XDA that call these "ink spots" etc.)
I contacted the salesperson at Rogers regarding an exchange, and I was told to bring it to their technician - if he recognized the defect, I would get a new device. He couldn't see the problem! He had never heard of the problem (yeah, right!) so it would not be exchanged unless I sent it off to Samsung to have a look!
I returned the POS on buyers remorse, paying a $75 fee and got the iPhone 5 as a result.
I love the iPhone and I've had many of them in the past, too. But the Samsung problem of faulty screens is definitely a common issue and I most likely wont switch back, unless something truly game changing comes out for Android.
Rogers is terrible, aside from having a gorgeous iPhone 5 out of the deal, leaving Fido was a big mistake.
I would be very weary of purchasing an S3 if you, the reader, haven't already.
Google S3 Ink Spots, and see many disappointed s3 owners like me.

Cool story bro.
Herp derp SGS3 Tapatalk 2

hawken84 said:
I extremely disappointed in both Samsung and
I contacted the salesperson at Rogers regarding an exchange, and I was told to bring it to their technician - if he recognized the defect, I would get a new device. He couldn't see the problem! He had never heard of the problem (yeah, right!) so it would not be exchanged unless I sent it off to Samsung to have a look!
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I work at a tech shop. Unfortunately they don't always update us on defects. There was a recall on sandybridge mainboards but no one notified us until after two weeks, that is just one instance.

and your point is....? you're back on ios so this whole story makes no difference at all now right? you dont have an sgs3 anymore. end of story. not sure what the point of this is.
i had 3 sgs3's in my possession at one point and didnt see any of this. i also have 6 friends with sgs3's and they dont have this. you should expect some manufacturing defects when a product is made in the hundreds of thousands dude. it just happens. you should blame that tech and yourself for not getting a replacement. you could of easily stood up to them and got a replacement. you being passive is what the problem here is.

I have two ink spots on my S3 but only when the screen is displaying BLACK. All you had to do was warranty the phone dude. And also, this is the GS3 thread, not the flipping iPhone5 thread. Oh that's right, we don't have one!!!!! I own an iPhone 4, but you don't see me coming here saying how awesome it is?!
You should have warrantied the phone.

task650 said:
and your point is....? you're back on ios so this whole story makes no difference at all now right? you dont have an sgs3 anymore. end of story. not sure what the point of this is.
i had 3 sgs3's in my possession at one point and didnt see any of this. i also have 6 friends with sgs3's and they dont have this. you should expect some manufacturing defects when a product is made in the hundreds of thousands dude. it just happens. you should blame that tech and yourself for not getting a replacement. you could of easily stood up to them and got a replacement. being passive is what the problem here is.
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You obviously stopped reading when you saw the word iOS and decided to post a worthless comment defending Android lol. The point is, people should be weary when purchasing the S3 and look closely. Just because you and your six friends don't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Even the technician couldn't see it - that doesn't mean it wasn't there. There are dozens of threads online, and XDA inpeticular, where users are very frustrated with this problem in their S3's.

Jammol said:
I have two ink spots on my S3 but only when the screen is displaying BLACK. All you had to do was warranty the phone dude. And also, this is the GS3 thread, not the flipping iPhone5 thread. Oh that's right, we don't have one!!!!! I own an iPhone 4, but you don't see me coming here saying how awesome it is?!
You should have warrantied the phone.
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This is hardly n iPhone 5 thread lol. What is with Android users getting so offended when they see the work iPhone? I've had multiple Samsung phones, I have an Asus Nexus 7, and I've had almost every iPhone to ever come out. They are both great platforms, I am sorry if seeing the work iOS makes you so salty lol

hawken84 said:
You obviously stopped reading when you saw the word iOS and decided to post a worthless comment defending Android lol. The point is, people should be weary when purchasing the S3 and look closely. Just because you and your six friends don't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Even the technician couldn't see it - that doesn't mean it wasn't there. There are dozens of threads online, and XDA inpeticular, where users are very frustrated with this problem in their S3's.
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Ummm... read my post again. This has nothing to do with iPhone or android. It has everything to do with you not taking the correct route in getting the replacement. The only worthless post is this thread you created to inform others of you happiness of iOS in an android development website. Replace the phone for a new one. Its that simple. You didn't do that and you should probably take the frustration out on yourself rather than the "tech" that probably didn't care enough to really look for the issue or Samsung for the quality. This really comes down to you not taking the initiative.

hawken84 said:
This is hardly n iPhone 5 thread lol. What is with Android users getting so offended when they see the work iPhone? I've had multiple Samsung phones, I have an Asus Nexus 7, and I've had almost every iPhone to ever come out. They are both great platforms, I am sorry if seeing the work iOS makes you so salty lol
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1.) IPhone anything does not belong here. Go to the sister site and post about iPhone.
2.) This thread seems ridiculous. As you stated. There are already multiple threads containing this information so why would you clutter these forums with another?

task650 said:
1.) IPhone anything does not belong here. Go to the sister site and post about iPhone.
2.) This thread seems ridiculous. As you stated. There are already multiple threads containing this information so why would you clutter these forums with another?
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Ok, maybe I should refer to it as a "different phone" due to the poor quality of the Samsung Galaxy S3 i747 I purchased. Happy? If you don't find any use for this thread, then leave it, and stop bumping it with your pointless wannabe moderator comments. Someone who is in the market for a new phone, and is considering buying this phone, might find it a little more meaningful. I for one, wish there was a lot of threads on the subject, so I could have saved myself a $75 restocking fee to bring it back, by not buying it in the first place.

hawken84 said:
Ok, maybe I should refer to it as a "different phone" due to the poor quality of the Samsung Galaxy S3 i747 I purchased. Happy? If you don't find any use for this thread, then leave it, and stop bumping it with your pointless wannabe moderator comments. Someone who is in the market for a new phone, and is considering buying this phone, might find it a little more meaningful. I for one, wish there was a lot of threads on the subject, so I could have saved myself a $75 restocking fee to bring it back, by not buying it in the first place.
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lol. you should blog or facebook this.

hawken84 said:
Ok, maybe I should refer to it as a "different phone" due to the poor quality of the Samsung Galaxy S3 i747 I purchased. Happy? If you don't find any use for this thread, then leave it, and stop bumping it with your pointless wannabe moderator comments. Someone who is in the market for a new phone, and is considering buying this phone, might find it a little more meaningful. I for one, wish there was a lot of threads on the subject, so I could have saved myself a $75 restocking fee to bring it back, by not buying it in the first place.
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Dude, you bought a bad phone out of however millions were made. Just because one phone had something wrong with it doesn't mean that you should tell people NOT to buy that phone. And besides, basing your opinion about an ENTIRE company based on one defective device is STUPID AS HELL! That's like saying 'white people are racist' just because 1 KKK member calls me the N word!!!
THINK!!!
Take you Android bashing and just forget about signing into XDA until you get an Android device again like you said when something MAGICALLY comes about. Have fun with iOS, it's solid, it's stable, and absolutely nothing will ever go wrong with your precious iPhone 5. :good:

.... it's an issue with AMOLED screens. There's a clear reason why the "technician" probably didn't see it. That being the fact that YOU didn't even notice it until "midnight that night". It's only visible when the screen is displaying BLACK.... and at NIGHT. If it were actually an "Artifact" as you put it, it would have some sort of adverse affect on the display quality.... which it does not. I have noticed these blotches at night. But instead of googling it and reading that it does happen and thinking "Oh, this phone sucks cause there's this stuff that other people seem to have", i actually read more into it and found out WHAT it was. It doesn't affect the screen in any way.... and is only visible on a solid black color, at night. Which is funny, cause a lot of the people posting about it don't exactly seem "Disappointed", as you put it, but more curious as to why they're there, and if they could be a potential issue or not..... which they're not.
If it were something that affected the functionality or the display quality, i could see being "disappointed in Samsung".... but this is just ridiculous. I've had an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4 before switching to Android. I don't see why in the hell anybody would willingly switch iOS from Android. Apple designs excellent hardware.... i'll give them that. But iOS seriously needs an overhaul... not just a new feature or two added every year that's been around on other platforms (and not just Android) for YEARS.

elementaldragon said:
.... it's an issue with AMOLED screens. There's a clear reason why the "technician" probably didn't see it. That being the fact that YOU didn't even notice it until "midnight that night". It's only visible when the screen is displaying BLACK.... and at NIGHT. If it were actually an "Artifact" as you put it, it would have some sort of adverse affect on the display quality.... which it does not. I have noticed these blotches at night. But instead of googling it and reading that it does happen and thinking "Oh, this phone sucks cause there's this stuff that other people seem to have", i actually read more into it and found out WHAT it was. It doesn't affect the screen in any way.... and is only visible on a solid black color, at night. Which is funny, cause a lot of the people posting about it don't exactly seem "Disappointed", as you put it, but more curious as to why they're there, and if they could be a potential issue or not..... which they're not.
If it were something that affected the functionality or the display quality, i could see being "disappointed in Samsung".... but this is just ridiculous. I've had an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 4 before switching to Android. I don't see why in the hell anybody would willingly switch iOS from Android. Apple designs excellent hardware.... i'll give them that. But iOS seriously needs an overhaul... not just a new feature or two added every year that's been around on other platforms (and not just Android) for YEARS.
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Exactly. I'm looking at a black screen on my S3 right now, no ink spots, but at night and on a COMPLETELY black screen, I can see a few, but it doesn't bother me.
Also, enjoy your non working maps, anodized aluminum that chips from nothing, screen flickering, and your now AMAZING 4x5 [email protected][email protected]!11

LOL I will never understand people who get heated over Android vs iPhone, even when this thread is not a comparison.
You all don't think ink spots are a problem, then that's ok. For me, it's unacceptable, even if its only at night. It's not just on black screens, it's on anything as dark as the deep blue in settings. If its a common problem with AMOLED screens, then it's too bad.
And ps: google maps has a fully functional web app that is identical to what was the native maps app LOL.
I think I hear your moms calling you upstairs for lunch

So far every Samsung phone I had also had black spots on the screen its just how Samsung produces there screens but I would not swap out my phone just because of some black spots that you could only see in midnight and iPhone is a piece of **** u made a mistake !
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Ok.... fine.... it's visible on very dark colors..... at night. WOOOOOO! if you're that nit-picky, i'd hate to see how you are with other products. Must suck to see you picking out a monitor..... backlight bleed must really get your panties in a bunch against the manufacturer of the display.

I'm sure the thread will be closed pretty soon.
To the OP, you got your iPhone, be happy and get on with your life. And stop being rude to other members because this may harm you in future if you ever get an Android phone. So better safe than sorry. Also, as you mentioned there were several other threads opened regarding the issues you were experiencing, you should have better put your thoughts in those threads. People get angry because you searched and found similar issues, still you opened a new one to complain about your displeasure.
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Well, I guess I'm glad your problem is solved.
My Rogers S3 is just swell over here.

Having had an iphone from 2008-2012 and having used iOS since the original ipod touch in 2007, I couldn't be happier to have bought an S3.
Sounds like your beef is more with Rogers than with Samsung. I got my 32gb S3 on promo from Rogers for only $50, the 32gb iphone 5 would have been $300
The unbelievable amount of positive differences I have experienced between my old iphone 4 and the S3 is pretty astounding. I played with an iphone 5 for a bit a few days ago and yeah it just seemed... Boring to me after having had my S3 for two weeks. I really loved my iphone for years and defended it endlessly as being incredibly durable and intuitive and simple devices (which they are) but after messing with Android for a few weeks I actually now regret not making the switch sooner.
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Hawken I installed io6 on my iphone 4 a few weeks ago. The Google maps "Web app" via Safari is total and utter **** in comparison to the proper Google App. It seems like you are just trying to come up with all sorts of reasons to justify your decision to impatiently dump the S3 and pay a ton of cash to get the iphone 5 because it's a mindlessly easy device to use.
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