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A quick review after 48 hours use

I have had the phone, bought from phones 4U contract free for the past few days and i wanted to give my views for people who may be undecided if it is a sound purchase. Just for the record i still have my iPhone 4 & Desire HD, so i am not biased.....
I was unsure about the form factor when reading the specs, but the lack of hardware buttons means it is literally 95% screen real estate, the display is a thing of beauty. I know others have reported colour issues, but i have not had problems with yellow hue. Or any other display issues. It also feels light but sturdy, i'm sure you will have seen the scratch test video. I'm confident that the screen will stay scratch free unless i drop it (To be fair i will probably drop it)
ICS - It is a great update for android. People have commented about it not being intuitive or user friendly. I spent the first few hours setting things up and finding my way around the OS and while it takes some getting used to it is far better than gingerbread. It is of course biased to Google+ - people who have concerns about not being able to sync their facebook contact pictures should use "syncmypix" it has done a great job populating my phonebook pictures. I have had some force closes, and apps from the market do need an update due to some compatibility issues. As this is a software issue i am not concerned. I would like to add that the face unlock is actually very good. I set the "gimmick unlock" to test it, and it has proved to be more than adequate for day to day use. It does not work in low light, but again hardly a surprise.
GPS is also excellent on the phone seeing a connection established nearly instantly.
I must be missing something with the connecting to other hardware issue. I guess people use their smartphones differently, but from my point of view i connect my phone to my PC to transfer files back and forth and sometimes tether my laptop to use the internet. Both of these things work fine and quickly, so i am clearly missing the issue.
The camera: Ok, the camera isn't going to set the world on fire. In the right lighting it takes a pretty decent snap, but if you are looking for a phone with a heavy emphasis on photos it probably isnt for you. No software updates will change that. I do like the instant shutter speed and it comes with some nice effects.
The battery: Hmmmm the jury is out on the battery. I usually like to cycle the battery over a few days till it settles down, i can then make a valid comment. So far though the battery is giving me approx 12 hours of use, i would consider myself a heavy user (It's a new phone and i'm playing with it lots)
Overall - If you love tech, and are an early adopter it's a great phone. The OS is lightening fast and the display is great. If you want something that 'Just works' i would hold on.
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
Please feel free to ask anything about the phone, or if you would like me to try something out just let me know.
Cheers

theshakyone said:
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
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are you even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault?
If you are not on O2, Vodafone, giffgaff, or Tesco Mobile...then you wouldn't experience the fault. Please give more info about what network you're with.

*sigh of relief* as I'm on Three I hope I won't develop these problems, as there's no 2G to switch to.
OP: good review, mainly mirrors my sentiments.

rikbrown said:
*sigh of relief* as I'm on Three I hope I won't develop these problems, as there's no 2G to switch to.
OP: good review, mainly mirrors my sentiments.
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actually 3 does have 2G connectivity via Orange albeit dwindling down. Either way, both 3UK and Orange do not use 900MHz frequency band for their 2G service.

oscillik said:
actually 3 does have 2G connectivity via Orange albeit dwindling down. Either way, both 3UK and Orange do not use 900MHz frequency band for their 2G service.
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Oh TIL . But fine, good to hear that.

oscillik said:
are you even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault?
If you are not on O2, Vodafone, giffgaff, or Tesco Mobile...then you wouldn't experience the fault. Please give more info about what network you're with.
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Yes i am even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault. I have used my O2 sim for a few hours at a time over the weekend and have not seen the fault yet. I am primarily on T-Mobile.
Others may not be aware of the conditions that trigger the fault, so thanks for posting up the link.

theshakyone said:
The battery: Hmmmm the jury is out on the battery. I usually like to cycle the battery over a few days till it settles down, i can then make a valid comment. So far though the battery is giving me approx 12 hours of use, i would consider myself a heavy user (It's a new phone and i'm playing with it lots)
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
Cheers
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Good to know about the battery. I've heard many bad things about the battery life, so it's good to know that yours is lasting as long as one would expect.
Please post what operator you're one so that we can determine if it's all handsets that are being plagued by the volume problems, or just some or most.
I'm with Optus in Australia and I'm fairly certain that they operate on the 900Mhz GSM frequency

Niksko said:
Good to know about the battery. I've heard many bad things about the battery life, so it's good to know that yours is lasting as long as one would expect.
Please post what operator you're one so that we can determine if it's all handsets that are being plagued by the volume problems, or just some or most.
I'm with Optus in Australia and I'm fairly certain that they operate on the 900Mhz GSM frequency
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Hello
I'm on T mobile for the majority of the time. But do use my O2 sim and have tested it with both. Over the next few days im sure a clearer picture will emerge regarding the problem.

Thanks for the review. My contract is up and I keep going back and forth between wanting this phone and waiting for CM9 or some other ICS based ROM to drop for my dinc.

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Yes i am even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault. I have used my O2 sim for a few hours at a time over the weekend and have not seen the fault yet. I am primarily on T-Mobile.
Others may not be aware of the conditions that trigger the fault, so thanks for posting up the link.
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so then you are not going to encounter the fault. Would've helped if you had made mention of this in your original post.

Niksko said:
Good to know about the battery. I've heard many bad things about the battery life, so it's good to know that yours is lasting as long as one would expect.
Please post what operator you're one so that we can determine if it's all handsets that are being plagued by the volume problems, or just some or most.
I'm with Optus in Australia and I'm fairly certain that they operate on the 900Mhz GSM frequency
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I am pretty unimpressed with the battery personally. Since coming off charge at 8am this morning (now almost 2pm) I'm on 55%. 49% screen 21% Android OS apparently. Light use.

rikbrown said:
I am pretty unimpressed with the battery personally. Since coming off charge at 8am this morning (now almost 2pm) I'm on 55%. 49% screen 21% Android OS apparently. Light use.
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That is poor. Are you using live wallpapers? Is the screen brightness on auto or manual, and lastly how many charges has it been through?

Good Review - Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to write that review.
Some obviously don't appreciate the time you took to do one, but i do. it makes me more sure i want to buy it
Thank you

mhbr12742 said:
Thank you for taking the time to write that review.
Some obviously don't appreciate the time you took to do one, but i do. it makes me more sure i want to buy it
Thank you
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Thanks for your comments. I guess some people are upset about the volume issue, and are venting. I'm glad the review was of some use to you....

theshakyone said:
That is poor. Are you using live wallpapers? Is the screen brightness on auto or manual, and lastly how many charges has it been through?
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Screen brightness auto. No live wallpapers. Two full charges. One gmail account on push and one Exchange on push. I browsed Reddit for about 10-15minutes after waking up and that saw the battery down about 6% or so.
Since then I listened to Spotify on the walk to work (15mins). I've replied to some texts, installed/used a network Speed Test app once, showed the camera to a friend and took a panorama. And played with a few settings. Nothing intensive.
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Screen on time 1h9m. 6h1m49s on battery.

rikbrown said:
I am pretty unimpressed with the battery personally. Since coming off charge at 8am this morning (now almost 2pm) I'm on 55%. 49% screen 21% Android OS apparently. Light use.
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Well that's 12 hours (till empty) with the screen on almost 50%. Not bad.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

Thanks for the review - I really appreciate the time you put into it. I wondered if you think it is worth paying £100 pounds + more for this handset or go for the tried and tested the GS2 which is due to get the ICS upgrade at some point....There seem to be a few p'd off people leaving comments all over this forum regarding this phone.
theshakyone said:
I have had the phone, bought from phones 4U contract free for the past few days and i wanted to give my views for people who may be undecided if it is a sound purchase. Just for the record i still have my iPhone 4 & Desire HD, so i am not biased.....
I was unsure about the form factor when reading the specs, but the lack of hardware buttons means it is literally 95% screen real estate, the display is a thing of beauty. I know others have reported colour issues, but i have not had problems with yellow hue. Or any other display issues. It also feels light but sturdy, i'm sure you will have seen the scratch test video. I'm confident that the screen will stay scratch free unless i drop it (To be fair i will probably drop it)
ICS - It is a great update for android. People have commented about it not being intuitive or user friendly. I spent the first few hours setting things up and finding my way around the OS and while it takes some getting used to it is far better than gingerbread. It is of course biased to Google+ - people who have concerns about not being able to sync their facebook contact pictures should use "syncmypix" it has done a great job populating my phonebook pictures. I have had some force closes, and apps from the market do need an update due to some compatibility issues. As this is a software issue i am not concerned. I would like to add that the face unlock is actually very good. I set the "gimmick unlock" to test it, and it has proved to be more than adequate for day to day use. It does not work in low light, but again hardly a surprise.
GPS is also excellent on the phone seeing a connection established nearly instantly.
I must be missing something with the connecting to other hardware issue. I guess people use their smartphones differently, but from my point of view i connect my phone to my PC to transfer files back and forth and sometimes tether my laptop to use the internet. Both of these things work fine and quickly, so i am clearly missing the issue.
The camera: Ok, the camera isn't going to set the world on fire. In the right lighting it takes a pretty decent snap, but if you are looking for a phone with a heavy emphasis on photos it probably isnt for you. No software updates will change that. I do like the instant shutter speed and it comes with some nice effects.
The battery: Hmmmm the jury is out on the battery. I usually like to cycle the battery over a few days till it settles down, i can then make a valid comment. So far though the battery is giving me approx 12 hours of use, i would consider myself a heavy user (It's a new phone and i'm playing with it lots)
Overall - If you love tech, and are an early adopter it's a great phone. The OS is lightening fast and the display is great. If you want something that 'Just works' i would hold on.
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
Please feel free to ask anything about the phone, or if you would like me to try something out just let me know.
Cheers
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player911 said:
Well that's 12 hours (till empty) with the screen on almost 50%. Not bad.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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Actual screen on time was 1h9m for 6h1m49s on battery. The % was where the battery was going (as displayed in the battery part of Settings).
I guess it's okay, but I'm used to a lot higher from my previous iPhone 4 and HTC Radar. But I guess they also didn't have 4.65" 720p displays
I've turned off Exchange push for now, as I don't really care about getting work emails on it anyway. Will see if that improves things, as read some vague topics saying that Exchange is a battery hog.

player911 said:
Well that's 12 hours (till empty) with the screen on almost 50%. Not bad.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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If one is considering the total screen on time, its actually about 2 hrs 18 min. (Double of 1hr 9 min). The % isn't measured according to time.
@rikbrown: Thanks for the tests and info!

ock said:
If one is considering the total screen on time, its actually about 2 hrs 18 min. (Double of 1hr 9 min). The % isn't measured according to time.
@rikbrown: Thanks for the tests and info!
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No problem. I've posted a topic to get others' opinions/battery life experiences, so I can stop hijacking this review thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356581

[Q] GNex worth it?

Hi -- I have a Droid Charge and while I like it, I admit I'm jealous of the GNex, or at least of what the Gnex is supposed to be. I don't have an upgrade coming until 2013, but may be able to add a "ghost line" to my account and pick up a Gnex for $300 at a Verizon store, then sell my Charge. But I've heard there are major battery/speakerphone/radio-connectivity/other issues with the Gnex. So my question is... is everyone here in love with theirs? Any regrets? Anyone who was jonesing to get one but is now disappointed? Any opinions out there that can help me make my choice, I'd be so grateful. Thanks!!!

I'm going to try to post this as politely as I can without sounding like an @$$hole because I am not trying to be rude, but you could likely gather a vast pool of information by reviewing the several hundred threads within the Galaxy Nexus category to see what the common complaint is.
To not be completely useless in posting here, I personally enjoy the Galaxy Nexus a lot. You'll find people complain about all the same things as every other phone, including but not limited to:
Battery life
Screen durability
Screen brightness
Software incompatibilities
Camera function, performance, and/or capability
etc....

I've looked at a lot of threads, but I wanted to try and get an overview that wasn't necessarily based on squeaky wheels. A thousand people may love it and have no problem, but the ten who do post and negative connotations are born. I did do a search for an opinion thread like mine, and didn't find anything. For anyone who feels like the above poster, I apologize. For any others who don't mind giving me their opinion, I'd appreciate it.

Was in a similar position like you... I could get mine for a few bucks less, but I wasn't sure at all. But then I thought I'll give it a go and if I don't like it I'd just sell it.
After two weeks all I can say is I just love that phone and it was the the best buy since a long time.
Imo the screen is absolutely amazing, the image is razor-sharp due to the hd resolution and the colors are pretty "natural". What I'm trying to say with "natural" is, that when I compare the screen with the Galaxy S2 from a mate, the Nexus is more vibrant. The S2 is brighter, but looks kinda artificial. You could say the Nex looks more like a printed page and the S2 like a computer screen. The black on the Nex screen is truly black!
Battery life is ok, pretty good in idle is you ask me. But when you actually use your phone, the big screen takes its toll... but I have no problem to get over an entire day, even with heavy use. A lot of messaging, facebook, listening to music for an hour, at least an hour of playing games, playing around with my screen setup and voice calls (30 mins) today and I came home with 25% left.
And yes, there are some occasional software issues. But nothing big that would make the device unusable. Small glitches, you could say. After all it's a developer phone.
The phone itself looks very nice with the all-glass front and the overall feel is high-quality.
To sum it up: yes, there are some small issues, like with every other device. And yes, I would say, there is a big chance that you might like the GNex or even love it, like me
If you got any questions, feel free to ask!

I got an upgrade coming up on the 23rd so thanks to the OP for asking this question.
Sent from my Samsung Stratosphere using the XDA App

Flx -grafix, thanks for such a thourough response! I see you're outside of the US, are you on a 4G network? Just want to gauge your battery life. Also, a lot of people have complained about the speaker, is it loud enough in your opinion?

billku said:
I've looked at a lot of threads, but I wanted to try and get an overview that wasn't necessarily based on squeaky wheels. A thousand people may love it and have no problem, but the ten who do post and negative connotations are born. I did do a search for an opinion thread like mine, and didn't find anything. For anyone who feels like the above poster, I apologize. For any others who don't mind giving me their opinion, I'd appreciate it.
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i absolutely LOVE mine, but it is the GSM version not the verizon one. it seems the verizon version with LTE has bad battery problems where it loses 20% overnight with no usage. the GSM version loses 4% over an 8 hour period. so i dont know how i would feel about that.

Yeah, Roger, that does concern me a lot. As the guy who chided me posted, battery issues on 4g phones are fairly common, but I'm hearing that the LTE version of the GNex's issues are pretty egregious.

billku said:
Flx -grafix, thanks for such a thourough response! I see you're outside of the US, are you on a 4G network? Just want to gauge your battery life. Also, a lot of people have complained about the speaker, is it loud enough in your opinion?
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No, I'm not on a 4G network, so I can't tell you about the battery life. I'm on a HSDPA net here. Compared to my HTC Desire S (Saga), the only noticable difference is that the GN drains more battery while the screen is on. But that is just plain logic, since the screen is much bigger and the resolution is higher. I'm also still on 4.0.1, the battery life on 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 is supposed to be even better.
The speaker volume is pretty low, that is right. But this is also something that's fixed with the update afaik and there is also an app in the market which lets you boost the speaker volume. This is definitely no reason for not buying the phone!
Any more questions? Just ask! And if helped you, pressing the thanks button is highly appreciated

Over all .... I am very happy with the Nexus and have no buyers remorse
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I am (slowly) moving an entire family plan to Verizon... largely because of the GN, but mostly because they have coverage everywhere I need it.
I live in the DFW area, so 4G has been steady and available all over my daily living/working spaces (except work, where the building kills the LTE but I can use it outside.)
Anyway, I know there are a lot of people with issues but I have to say, I have loved this phone every second so far. My battery life has been fine, could be better, because I don't use it every second of the day. I use a BlackBerry for work, so that helps, I guess.
I say go for it... if you don't like it you have like 14 days to return it and only be out the prorated service costs, I believe. (That's how Sprint was, anyway. Surely VZW does the same.)

For what its worth, I tweaked my phone's speaker with dspmanager. It is plenty loud and has more detail and bass with less of a high treble tin sound. Better speaker IMO vs the rezound and charge.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

for those who's got Gnex already: dont regret!! it was a great choice.
for those who hasnot got: Gnex is no much better than gs2, except for ICS (sg2 is getting ICS anyway).
however, giving the fact i have both devices. i have to say, Gnex is compatible with way more games (especially gameloft and ea games) on the google market, whie gs2 is not.

Thanks everyone for all these replies! I have worried about the reception/radio issues, though I'm in a strong 4G area, Los Angeles, so I'm hoping if I get the GNex I'll have similar results as Is_907.
Again, really appreciate all this, it's making me lean towards taking the plunge...

Don't let people with razr/rezound tell you otherwise, this is the best phone by far all around - however it has some deal breakers that are subjective (like the storage).
Now the real question is, is it worth the upgrade from a Droid Charge? I would honestly say no.
My dad and sister both have them, while nexus is definitely a step up - droid charge is pretty much the best of the last gen phones, I would wait for the next big thing - like galaxy s3, which will also likely have samoled+ hd and sd card.
Just put cm7 and load ics theme for now. (I did that on my moto triumph and fell in love with it again)

billku said:
Thanks everyone for all these replies! I have worried about the reception/radio issues, though I'm in a strong 4G area, Los Angeles, so I'm hoping if I get the GNex I'll have similar results as Is_907.
Again, really appreciate all this, it's making me lean towards taking the plunge...
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Verizon 4G coverage is pretty good and I have a signal everywhere I go (and speeds are INCREDIBLE). I haven't seen any reception issues.

Interesting, wonshikee. You've got me thinking...

I hear keeping 4G off when not needed helps a lot with the battery. I only live in a 3G area so I'm not 100% certain. Just use 4G when needed, 3g if OK for normal operation.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

It also charges freakishly fast. It charges so fast that I thought it was fake at first.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

I had a DC. I'm not looking back. That should speak for itself.
Sent from my GummyNex Beast

Buying a ONE X

Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!

I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.

Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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Battery Life
Mouselik said:
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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Battery life is surprisingly good for me. After the first couple days i easily get over 12 hours before reaching 20%. Must say i love that the phone drains almost no battery when listening to music in my experiences.

HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.

Battery life there are days I think not bad and on others I ask myself what the hell? Despite having my phone for around 4 or 5 months I still do notice drops of 3-5% in battery life. I can't really make my mind up for this device. I can't tell if htc is going to improve anything on this device anymore or if that's just as good as it gets. It'll be best if you just end up expecting nothing from HTC. That will save you from having expectations that wont be met anyway.
Edit: by the way there is a battery life thread with a trillion posts in it. Just open it and come up with a conclusion yourself. Be warned though, you might see people with around 5 to 6 hours of screen time which seems really questionable to me. I would say the people posting screen times of anywhere between 2 to 4 hours 30 minutes screen time are legit.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
averygagaanroid said:
The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
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One X user (Tegra version) since one week. Switched to the CM10 preview this weekend. Very good phone, battery life is on par with the rest. If you check the points mentioned above (also make sure the power and volume buttons are responsive), that sounds like a good deal. ROM community is very active, JB support already almost flawless. Also, the screen is the best I have seen on a phone so far.

Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Honestly I think HTC has been playing the blame games and time buying strategies to the extent of ignoring customers and treating like crap. But still better than LG as far as I have known. And as someone has said, if you want a better chance of getting a drama free phone better get the SGS3, as much as I hate Samsung. But you're not gonna have that beautiful hardware and AMAZING screen (funny how i say this since I dont own it lol).

This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
shadehh said:
Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been with htc for a much longer time. They seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper

Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been using htc for a much longer time , they seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
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Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo

Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
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Mouselik said:
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion

Hehe. It was my jedi mind trick to allure you guys to the discussion!
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, anything that goes wrong will be covered by the warranty anway.

Mouselik said:
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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Well,
The seller (co-worker and friend) reports none of the liste issues. No wi-fi problem, no screen problem, and general usage with no hick-ups.
Is used it for about a month. And, furtunatly for me, he's more of an iPhone guy hehe
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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A few issues i noticed right away with the HTC 10

I've done extensive testing and comparisons between phones and found the following issues with the HTC 10:
- Above average operating temperatures (37-42c)
- Weak Wifi Reception

The above average temp is because of full metallic construction and the position of the cpu on the back of the phone, just under the aluminum plate, therefore, the heat radiation is much faster (you will feel it like heating up compared to plastic phones).
I have not noticed any issue with wifi.

Things I really dislike about my HTC 10:
- Average Operating Temperature between 37-42c (gets warm way to quickly)
- Camera is average at best
- Power Button is flimsy
- laggy as hell, especially typing with Swiftkey is nearly impossible!!!!
I tried the following phones extensively in the last 2 months:
- Nexus 6P
- S7 Regular
- S7 Edge
- Nexsus 5x
Out of them all I liked the S7 regular the best so far.
I am not sure if I am going to keep the HTC 10. Not too impressed...
Anyone else having the same issues?

My phone isn't laggy at all. Sounds like maybe you got a lemon. Only thing is the battery life hasn't impressed me. It's not bad just not as good as I had hoped.
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exxi said:
I am not sure if I am going to keep the HTC 10. Not too impressed...
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Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.

Build construction better than the 6P, better wifi and signal reception (6P was absolutely horrid) and battery life on the 10 imo is also leaps and bounds better than the 6P. Really couldn't be happier with this phone.

nobnut said:
Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.
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Straight SAVAGE, lol
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nobnut, I am so delighted that such caring and compassionate individuals are part of the XDA community.
After all, that is what makes this board such a great place for the fringe and disillusioned individuals (such as me) who are crying for attention.
Who in the wold can undestand the pain and suffering that comes with a less than perfect smartphone? Your message filled me with hope.....
Now, may I please have your full contact details to make use for your generous and selfless offer?
Thank you so much!

i have the s7 edge and the htc 10 the 10 is a nice phone batteries life so so layout is good its fast i still think s7 has a better camera just my 2 cents

exxi said:
nobnut, I am so delighted that such caring and compassionate individuals are part of the XDA community.
After all, that is what makes this board such a great place for the fringe and disillusioned individuals (such as me) who are crying for attention.
Who in the wold can undestand the pain and suffering that comes with a less than perfect smartphone? Your message filled me with hope.....
Now, may I please have your full contact details to make use for your generous and selfless offer?
Thank you so much!
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High maintenance alert!
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

nobnut said:
Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.
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nobnut said:
Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.
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High maintenance alert!
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Really?

exxi said:
Really?
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No I was just kidding.
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

Ahahahahaha, I am just so sad and astonished that half of you asperger syndrome ridden geeks don't even get a good bit of sarcasm.
nobnut, the donation is real tho; for the sake of staying original but this is just hopeless.
Anyway, I wasn't trying to rant about the 10; just asking if someone else is having the same issues. Other than that, I had really high expectations for the 10 as i returned all other devices. I was really happy to make the jump away from samsung.

Heat. Only when I'm charging? I don't play games though. Just casual browsing and facebook. And music.
Lagging? Through the whole UI?
I get no lag, at all. I've also typed this with swift just to try it out.
Camera, definitely not as good as the S7. I had the S7E for two months. Took the best pics. But this one isn't a slouch. Just requires a lot of adjustments when wanting to take a good shot (typical HTC)
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app

my issue with my HTC 10 was the subtle backlight bleed all around the panel's frame.
I loved the phone, up until noticing said effect on a green background. It wasn't the same as a light leak on a dark screen - this, I noticed on a green.
It was like the screen's borders where lighter in hue up to half a centimeter in width - I know it's too much, and I know I have OCD with such things, but for me was super distracting
Other than that, I loved everything about the device - camera, layout, colour reproduction, speed, sound. Everything

ro_explorer said:
The above average temp is because of full metallic construction and the position of the cpu on the back of the phone, just under the aluminum plate, therefore, the heat radiation is much faster (you will feel it like heating up compared to plastic phones).
I have not noticed any issue with wifi.
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yup its because of the aluminum body, was the same with the m9. there was a mod to take the device apart and apply thermal paste if you search the m9 forums. its risky but i did it before, helped alot. would for sure void warranty.

exxi said:
nobnut, I am so delighted that such caring and compassionate individuals are part of the XDA community.
After all, that is what makes this board such a great place for the fringe and disillusioned individuals (such as me) who are crying for attention.
Who in the wold can undestand the pain and suffering that comes with a less than perfect smartphone? Your message filled me with hope.....
Now, may I please have your full contact details to make use for your generous and selfless offer?
Thank you so much!
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You guys are hilarious love xda rofl

Has anyone tested the YouTube uploading on the HTC 10?
Here's what I've noticed:
* if I shoot a video in landscape mode, all is good and the video is updated correctly, in landscape mode - as expected
* if I shoot a video in portrait mode, the video uploads as a landscape video
I've tried different camera apps with the same result.

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Oh!
I love you. However, I feel like a fraud. I must admit now to a rare genetic condition called 'advertisements suck disease'. As such, I have been a long time proponent of blocking all ads. I never knew therefore that XDA pushed them on us.
I tell you what... I am now making a donation to Doctors Without Borders in order to pay forward your generous act of kindness. I hope it meets with your approval.
In the meantime, let's say a silent prayer for exxi and his problems.
Shabba.

Batt life blows

How is it possible my pixel4xl is getting more sot than my s20ultra? IDK, think the s20ultra is a big fail with the sht camera, and now this horrendous batt life. What a bummer.

Lol, not even a full battery cycle before the complaining begins. SMH
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This vztech person was complaining about the phone in preorder threads even before he/she got it. Some people are just out to trash something instead of trying to enjoy it. I would take what she/he says with a grain of salt.

Really thought this guy packed and returned that phone already. Complaints about everything.
Come on man, just return the phone already since you are so unsatisfied about it.

freebee269 said:
This vztech person was complaining about the phone in preorder threads even before he/she got it. Some people are just out to trash something instead of trying to enjoy it. I would take what she/he says with a grain of salt.
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more like 50lb bag of salt:highfive:

Please don’t feed the troll....

Godforbid Samsung fanboys get butthurt. Just stating facts.

Pixel...you bought one of those ROFL!!!

VZTech said:
Godforbid Samsung fanboys get butthurt. Just stating facts.
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You realize that by clicking on anyone's profile you can review their past posts. You've not said one positive thing about the S20U either before or after you received it. In most cases you piled on to other negative posts. That's your right but in doing so It's less about "butthurt" responses than it is folks questioning your credibility. You've got 14 or 15 days of remorse to return your phone. You'd be foolish to miss the window.

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Godforbid Samsung fanboys get butthurt. Just stating facts.
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Actually you haven't stated any fact. You gave a premature opinion about battery life. Your first few battery cycles WILL be less on ANY phone. The reason is you are downloading all your apps, your data, going thru setups, searching and playing differently than your current phone. Of Course the battery is going down faster. Not to mention it has been sitting in a whs for days or weeks without charge.
If you want to state an ACCURATE fact.... Go a week, multiple charge cycles... THEN make a determination on battery. Then you have some credibility on what you are taking about and not just whining to be whining!
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With posts like this Samsung will never put out 4k at 120hz. Maybe you should stick to iPhone dude.

VZTech said:
How is it possible my pixel4xl is getting more sot than my s20ultra? IDK, think the s20ultra is a big fail with the sht camera, and now this horrendous batt life. What a bummer.
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At least tell us what version, exynos?

lawtq said:
At least tell us what version, exynos?
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Snapdragon. I fully charged yesterday, installed all apps and settings. Fresh off charger this morning, my usual activity. Down to 50% with 2hrs sot

VZTech said:
Snapdragon. I fully charged yesterday, installed all apps and settings. Fresh off charger this morning, my usual activity. Down to 50% with 2hrs sot
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Post up battery info, please

dang i feel bad for this fellow.
chill guys, we are just feeding him anger. lol
but vztech you really should just return the phone and get refund
if you hate it that much.
its your decision man

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