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[Q] Give up Droid Incredible for an Evo?

Hi Guys,
I don't know if this question has been asked here before or not, and please spare me on the flaming if it has, but what are your honest opinions about trading in a Droid Incredible for an Evo?
Personally, I love my Incredible, and don't think there is anything wrong with it. I just wish it had some things that the Evo did.
Factors that matter to me and I am considering the Evo for:
1. Largest screen
2. Front facing Camera
3. HDMI port
Factors that scare me, or keep me from an Evo:
1. I have heard the size is really uncomfortably big, is this true?
2. I heard the battery life is horrible on the Evo! Personally I think the battery life on the Incredible is nothing special either, but I heard it's really bad on the Evo. I almost never use 3/4G or data, and just use WiFi very little, so this might not be a big deal for me.
I am sorry for writing this post without actually having an Evo in my hand, but it's sold out in my local stores. I intend to just ask for a trade on Craig's List or buy it from Ebay, if I get positive responses...
Also, 4G is negligible for me, since I will be using it on the Verizon network. Thanks for all your help, guys! I really appreciate your help!!

I would suggest finding a demo unit somewhere to get a feel for the size. As far as battery life goes, if your not using data very heavily and constantly messing around on the phone you should have no problem going all day on a charge. It depends heavily on your usage. I think they are both good phones, and you will ultimately have to decide for yourself. I know that's not what you wanted to hear.
As far as using the EVO on verizon's network, I assume you are familiar with the necessary steps to sneak the phone's MEID into Verizon's database? That is not something just anyone can do.

IMO until the next gen comes out the EVO is the best phone money can buy.
I actually love the size, its not too big for me at all. I don't use a case or screen protector. Back when I had BB's I got in the habit of devoting my front left pocket solely to my phone. The EVO is so perfect for me its scary
Battery life is a non issue if you know how to set up and use the thing.

nebenezer said:
IMO until the next gen comes out the EVO is the best phone money can buy.
I actually love the size, its not too big for me at all. I don't use a case or screen protector. Back when I had BB's I got in the habit of devoting my front left pocket solely to my phone. The EVO is so perfect for me its scary
Battery life is a non issue if you know his to set up and use the thing.
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No complaints about size or battery life (last phone was a G1) and if you can use a computer, you can make the EVO better than any phone out there imho
Sent from my DC'd EVO using xda App

Thanks for your responses, guys.
I guess it really comes down to preference, huh? I got the exact opposite advice to this in the DInc forums, but that's not unexpected, is it ?
I don't think the size should be a problem for me either, but like you guys suggested, I really have to try it for myself.
What do you guys think about the strong knocking on the EVO's camera? People say its HD recording is a joke... Obviously I don't follow the threads, but the FPS updates and tweaks, improve that stuff?
How about the mirror capturing of the front-facing camera?
There's also some buzz about the screen being duller, cause it's an LCD TFT screen, with only 265K colors? As opposed to the AMOLED on the DInc, and 16 m colors?
Heck, since we're here, why not I mention it... what do you guys think about the Droid X as an option?
I really appreciate your responses again, thank you!

I think the screen size is perfect. At first it did seem big and like 20 minutes later and felt like any other phone to me..
Battery life is perfect for me as well. Gets me through the whole day so not much more I could ask for outve the battery.
I'd say pick up the evo.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.

And as an added bonus, the Sprint plans are cheaper. It's a win-win.

My opinion on the EVO 720p recording is that it is not top quality filming material. There is a lot of granularity in the shots and it lacks a crisp HD look. With that said I have never used a phone as a primary camcorder and point and shoot device like I have with the EVO, and I love it for what it gives me - quick spontaneous moments caught on film and at a very passable quality. Just remember it is a phone first and camera second and you won't be disappointed. If you use it outdoors in sunlight it works fantastic, low light settings, not so much.
If you prefer AMOLED and the rich colors, you might be little disapointed with the EVO TFT. FWIW I don't think either technology works well in direct sunlight, but I would take LCD over AMOLED just for that reason.

ProFragger said:
Hi Guys,
I don't know if this question has been asked here before or not, and please spare me on the flaming if it has, but what are your honest opinions about trading in a Droid Incredible for an Evo?
Personally, I love my Incredible, and don't think there is anything wrong with it. I just wish it had some things that the Evo did.
Factors that matter to me and I am considering the Evo for:
1. Largest screen
2. Front facing Camera
3. HDMI port
Factors that scare me, or keep me from an Evo:
1. I have heard the size is really uncomfortably big, is this true?
2. I heard the battery life is horrible on the Evo! Personally I think the battery life on the Incredible is nothing special either, but I heard it's really bad on the Evo. I almost never use 3/4G or data, and just use WiFi very little, so this might not be a big deal for me.
I am sorry for writing this post without actually having an Evo in my hand, but it's sold out in my local stores. I intend to just ask for a trade on Craig's List or buy it from Ebay, if I get positive responses...
Also, 4G is negligible for me, since I will be using it on the Verizon network. Thanks for all your help, guys! I really appreciate your help!!
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To each their own, but I love my EVO (and I have played with several Incredibles), my wife (who is not a phone person loves hers...I get no attention now) and my 15yr old daughter loves hers. I don't think I could comfortably go back to a small screen device.
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Should I get SGII epic 4G Touch or Motorola Photon?

I was very interested in what the Motorola photon till the guy at Sprint HIGHLY reccomended the SGII Epic 4G Touch. Told me about all the features of guild phone which caught my attention. I also watched a 14 min vid from wirefly smackdown on the photon vs epic 4G touch.
One thing I was concerned about was the resolution being lower. Also rather like the kickstand idea from the EVO, but saw there was cases that have kickstands for the epic 4G touch. I'm asking from people who have owned the phone for a while, is it a good choice to get or should I stick to getting the photon?
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kyhassen said:
I was very interested in what the Motorola photon till the guy at Sprint HIGHLY reccomended the SGII Epic 4G Touch. Told me about all the features of guild phone which caught my attention. I also watched a 14 min vid from wirefly smackdown on the photon vs epic 4G touch.
One thing I was concerned about was the resolution being lower. Also rather like the kickstand idea from the EVO, but saw there was cases that have kickstands for the epic 4G touch. I'm asking from people who have owned the phone for a while, is it a good choice to get or should I stick to getting the photon?
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Best phone I've had. The only rant is the LoS every now and then. I prefer the smaller resolution because it's just easier. Bigger icons are better (at least for myself).
I messed with the Photon and it's a nice phone, but something that kept me far away from it was the lack of development.

I came from a Motorola atrix from att and I can say I missed Samsung. Phonton isn't a good the ept4g screen is amazing. Battery is OK better stuff is yet to come. Join us get the Epic 4g touch
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Like you, I considered both and haven't regretted my decision to go with the ET4G. The screen is amazing. The phone is faster than anything I've used. I doubt you'll regret it.
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Had the Photon for a month and have had the Epic 4G Touch for a month. While the Photon is an excellent phone it has serious issues with random rebooting and no audio on calls. It seems for for unexplained reasons the software just goes haywire and you have to do a battery pull. Some Best Buys reported 100% return rate when the phone first came out due to issue with no audio and rebooting. The radio is very strong, much better than the Sammy. The UI is not very good, you will need to switch to LauncherPro to make it acceptable. Thicker and heavier that the Sammy. Neither are great with the battery due to the nature of Android. As for the Epic 4 G Touch the radio is weaker. While people report loss of signal I have never had it. Very slim and lighter. Great all around phone with no issues on the calls. Like everything about it.
My suggestion would be the Epic 4 G Touch.

The SGS2 is a beast! I think you can't go wrong with either phone but I would say Sammy all the way. The screen blows away the qhd display of the EVO 3d I owned so I wouldn't be concerned about the resolution.
I know the a lot of people also like the Photon but I have not used it nor have any intention of even looking at it.

When it comes to tv and computer monitors I am an HD snob. I simply want the highest screen resolutions. Naturally I shopped around for a new phone using the same mindset. That was until I experienced the Super Amoled Plus screen. I finally realized how much of an impact contrast ratio is to the clarity of the screen. Deep blacks make every color on the screen pop. I watch Netflix on my phone in bed and I am blown away at the quality of the picture.
So in my opinion if you are trying to make resolution of the screen your deal breaker, you should go and spend some time with both phones and see for yourself.
Plus our phone simply have the fastest processor on the market. Without hardware acceleration my phone still don't experience any lag. Now with ICS coming out and hardware acceleration on just imagine how much more smoother our phone will be.

I'm an IT Manager for my company, our help desk gets more calls about Motorola Droids then anything else. I will never own a Motorola Android. I will admit the new Razor is tempting. For myself, I like Android but I think it is a little to complicated for the average corporate user. They just want something quick, easy and that works.
FYI, we get the least amount of calls over Iphones. I'm tempted to make the Iphone our officially supported phone. I don't think I want to get into Android or WP7 polices.

gedster314 said:
I'm an IT Manager for my company, our help desk gets more calls about Motorola Droids then anything else. I will never own a Motorola Android. I will admit the new Razor is tempting. For myself, I like Android but I think it is a little to complicated for the average corporate user. They just want something quick, easy and that works.
FYI, we get the least amount of calls over Iphones. I'm tempted to make the Iphone our officially supported phone. I don't think I want to get into Android or WP7 polices.
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What is your company's officially supported phone now?

My answer to the question, plus my Android history for some perspective.
I had the Photon briefly, exchanged for the Epic4GT and would never go back to the Photon.
-First Android was Sprint Hero. Was almost immediately outdated, but I liked it.
-This Aug was time for upgrade, Photon had just come out, didnt like how it looked, got the EVO4G. Really liked it compared to the outdated Hero, but the thing was HUGE, heavy, and battery didn't last long. The camera was 100000x better than the Hero.
-2 weeks later, after reading a couple reviews, (and hating the bulk of the EVO), exchanged it for the Photon. Immediately hated it. Hated the display - "artificial" is the only word I can think to describe it. The camera is horrible - about the same as my original Hero. I also really hated the UI.
Then the GSII was announced for Sprint. I held onto the Photon - hating every second of it - and the very last day of my 30day return policy was the drop day for the E4GT. Got it. LOVE it.
The size is perfect. Biggest screen out there (kinda), but the phone doesn't feel too big. It's not a BRICK like the EVO. It's thin and light. And the display size is great. Odd looking at a tiny iPhone display after this. Display quality is amazing. The camera is at the top - rating about even or better than the best out there. Battery has great life.
Not only is the E4GT the best phone at SPRINT right now, it's hard to beat it anywhere. For now. That all changes quick. But if you need to buy a phone right now, and you want the best from Sprint the Epic4GT is it.
(Sorry for a long first post, but this is a topic I just lived through.)

I had evo3d and photon before et4g. Et4g hands down.
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DevonSloan said:
My answer to the question, plus my Android history for some perspective.
I had the Photon briefly, exchanged for the Epic4GT and would never go back to the Photon.
-First Android was Sprint Hero. Was almost immediately outdated, but I liked it.
-This Aug was time for upgrade, Photon had just come out, didnt like how it looked, got the EVO4G. Really liked it compared to the outdated Hero, but the thing was HUGE, heavy, and battery didn't last long. The camera was 100000x better than the Hero.
-2 weeks later, after reading a couple reviews, (and hating the bulk of the EVO), exchanged it for the Photon. Immediately hated it. Hated the display - "artificial" is the only word I can think to describe it. The camera is horrible - about the same as my original Hero. I also really hated the UI.
Then the GSII was announced for Sprint. I held onto the Photon - hating every second of it - and the very last day of my 30day return policy was the drop day for the E4GT. Got it. LOVE it.
The size is perfect. Biggest screen out there (kinda), but the phone doesn't feel too big. It's not a BRICK like the EVO. It's thin and light. And the display size is great. Odd looking at a tiny iPhone display after this. Display quality is amazing. The camera is at the top - rating about even or better than the best out there. Battery has great life.
Not only is the E4GT the best phone at SPRINT right now, it's hard to beat it anywhere. For now. That all changes quick. But if you need to buy a phone right now, and you want the best from Sprint the Epic4GT is it.
(Sorry for a long first post, but this is a topic I just lived through.)
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Wow thank you for all the information you gave, that is def a deal breaker for me
Also to everyone else who posted, thank you all for the replies, I'm def going for the epic 4g touch now. Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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I'm still on the fence about getting the ET4G. I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that. Coming from an OG Epic some here can understand my apprehension, I would like to see if an update by the end of the year will come through. My ultimate plan is to pick one up through Craigslist just to hold on to my upgrade because I'm holding on to hope that Sprint gets the Nexus early next year.

I have an Epic 4G Touch that has not been rooted yet and I am yet to get an los on it. No issues with wifi or anything else for that matter.
Can keep 4G on all day while at work with about 1.5 hours of on screen time after 9 hours and come home with over 50% battery left. Compared to the EVO 4g and 3d, that is pretty damn impressive!

kyhassen said:
Wow thank you for all the information you gave, that is def a deal breaker for me
Also to everyone else who posted, thank you all for the replies, I'm def going for the epic 4g touch now. Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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If you want an awesome case check out the Case-mate tough case. It's available now and it kicks ass.

kyhassen said:
Wow thank you for all the information you gave...
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Just need to find a decent case, which, doesn't happen till Nov from what i hear.
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No prob - hope it helped. As for the case, I have the Carbon Fiber texture Kickstand Cover from Sprint, and I think it's great. I've never liked hard cases before this - always too much bulk. I've always gotten silicone cases, which I have liked a lot for drop protection, but they gather a lot of dust. This case adds minimal bulk and looks great. People cant believe how small/thin the phone is, and that's before they realize it's in a case. Take it out and they are even more amazed. Took pics, will post soon.
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I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that.
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I've read so much about this, but haven't experienced either problem. I was even going to jump on board the Sprint refund/credit bandwagon, just because I'm sure I could get away with it, but I haven't had the problem, so I'm not going to. I had had about 4 random reboots in the month I've had it, but it hasn't been a problem. (I just heard it rebooting in the other room.)

DevonSloan said:
No prob - hope it helped. As for the case, I have the Carbon Fiber texture Kickstand Cover from Sprint, and I think it's great. I've never liked hard cases before this - always too much bulk. I've always gotten silicone cases, which I have liked a lot for drop protection, but they gather a lot of dust. This case adds minimal bulk and looks great. People cant believe how small/thin the phone is, and that's before they realize it's in a case. Take it out and they are even more amazed. Took pics, will post soon.
I've read so much about this, but haven't experienced either problem. I was even going to jump on board the Sprint refund/credit bandwagon, just because I'm sure I could get away with it, but I haven't had the problem, so I'm not going to. I had had about 4 random reboots in the month I've had it, but it hasn't been a problem. (I just heard it rebooting in the other room.)
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The reboot could be caused by an app you are running. Are you running Juicy Defender or something like that? I know that has been an app that causes reboots.

m3ng said:
I had evo3d and photon before et4g. Et4g hands down.
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Same line up with me and I completely agree.

phatmanxxl said:
Same line up with me and I completely agree.
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Lol. I had the 3D. Phatman and Nate can confirm this.
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worldwidepmp said:
I'm still on the fence about getting the ET4G. I keep reading about LOS this and poor wi-fi signal that. Coming from an OG Epic some here can understand my apprehension, I would like to see if an update by the end of the year will come through. My ultimate plan is to pick one up through Craigslist just to hold on to my upgrade because I'm holding on to hope that Sprint gets the Nexus early next year.
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I have rooted mine and previous to rooting and currently I have never had the los issue .. guess its some batches of phones and others are fine.. but my wife has photon and I took evo 3d back and got et4g and its hands down the best!! I've compared my wife's photon and this epic touch many a times ..
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Verizon Reps didn't give me the Thumbs up

So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.

Bootloader is very easily unlocked and you can do any mods you want.
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One thing I've learned from reading many mobile phone forums, the Vz sales people often know less than the informed reader. I went thru 4 Bionics and after having issues even after the OTA I packed up all my stuff and returned it for the Nexus.
I don't wish I waited. I love the idea of owning a Google feature phone knowing I'll always have the latest updates and they'll continue to provide updates for a long time coming.
The bootloader is super easy to unlock on this phone and it's equally simple to root. I never rooted my Bionic b/c I ways waiting to see if I ever got a stable phone before I monkeyed with it. The Nexus I rooted after 5 days. I think this phone is going to receive a lot of developer attention because it's so easy to work on. I don't think the radio is as strong as what Moto uses, but I've never had any reception issues.

sebastianraven said:
So, I walked into 2 Verizon stores over the last two days. I wanted to use one of my upgrades to go from my Rezound to the Nexus. I spoke to two different reps and both told me they were not a fan of the phone. Design wise its nice and ICS is cool, but they said there are some problems with the reception and they're seeing more exchanges than they'd like.
I have no problems with my phone. I like it, but I love the larger screen and that's its lighter.
Do any of you wish you waited a bit before buying this phone (because Verizon already pushed this phone back so far) to see if an update cleared any of the issues you guys are having? All phones have their bugs, but I hate that the bootloader is locked and I can't go custom crazy like I wanted to.
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Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it

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Im surprised they didnt try to get you to buy the iPhone, like most ATT and VZW sheeps do.
They (and the people returning the phones), apparently do not know that the signal bug is a bug and will be fixed soon.
Get the SGN, you wont regret it
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So by "fixed soon" you mean the GNex is going to show you more bars for the same signal it currently gets? In my area, that just means I'll show some signal and not have any data network. I've owned several VZW phones and have never had dropped calls at my house like with the GNex. My advice - the GNex is the best phone on the market *if you get signal with it* end of story. If you don't (like me), it's just an expensive paperweight with a pretty screen and "faster updates." BFD if I can't make or receive calls with it out of my home. So anyway, my actual advice is to try the GNex first. If you get signal where you live/work/play, by all means enjoy an awesome phone. If not, return it for something with a better antenna.
Unless Samsung personally delivers a migrant worker to my house to install a newer, better antenna in my device, I don't think any software fix is going to help me (and yes, I've flashed the newest radios to no avail).
Sucks, and I don't want to get rid of it but I think I'm out of options.
Todd

I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life

I wouldn't listen to anything a rep says. As far as reception, did a test from my device and posted it on my blog. There is nothing wrong with the reception on the phone. If your device does have a legitimate issue, you need to exchange it.
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My GNex consistenly sits 10-20 db lower than my D2 sitting next to each other on the counter. Admittedly I live in an "outlier" area as far as Verizon's network goes, but if my D2 can manage an average of 80 db, why can my Nexus only muster between 100 and 110 most of the time? I've never seen it go below 93 at my house, where I've seen my D2 get as low as 65 dB. Again, new radios don't help for me. To me it just seems like the Samsung antenna is not as sensitive as in the motorola, so to say there are "no reception issues" simply because you may not experience them is patently false. I've been to three VZW stores now and all three of them said swapping out for a new Nexus is doable, but will not fix the issue because of Samsung's crappy antennas. At least two of the people I spoke with were Nexus owners, one owns a Razr, for whatever that's worth.

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I spoke to two different reps.
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phone store reps and apple 'geniuses' are derps. they are just about as knowledgeable about technical stuff as you and i are about cthulu. ive had a genius tell me that my ipod would have difficulty connecting to n-networks if i was an lte area... its an ipod... it doesnt give a **** about lte. similarly verizon reps have told me that the droid incredible 1 and 2 have the same hardware with a different case.
most people on xda are actually highly knowledgeable and i would trust opinions out here over any vzw derp.

At my local store the Nexus is all but hidden in the stock room. It's on display but in the group of old phones across the room from the iphones and RAZR. I asked the guy and he admitted to not knowing much about the phone but that they are being pumped by management to push the razr and that xyboard tablet. It's obvious verizon corporate would rather not push unlocked phones but imo carried the nexus to snag the root community.
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That's funny. At my local vzw store they don't keep a nexus out on the display. The sign and mount for it are out, but you have to go to the service desk and stand in front of them after being blessed with the opportunity to hold it briefly. All other available models are out in multiple locations for customers to play with.
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I went from the TBolt -> Rezound -> Nexus so hopefully I can offer some insight ;-)
TBolt reception wasn't an issue for me in general. At work the cafeteria is in the basement of our building and I always saw 4G with an occasional drop to 3g. The Nexus occasionally see's signal, but I still prefer the Nexus and having a Google experience device.
Will it be fixed? I hope so.
Could it be software related? Potentially, as much as people want to argue we just don't know for sure. The Nexus S 4G was plagued with performance issues when it was released and they were fixed it with a software update. (note that it wasn't a reception issue)
Some phones have better antenna's than others, that's the simple truth. I've seen excellent reception at times and crappy receptions at other times.
The Rezound I had was a good phone, but I felt the need to tinker with it to get rid of bloatware, tweak performance, etc...I don't feel that need on the Nexus. I have pros and cons for each phone but in the end there are intangibles about the Nexus that I enjoy more. FYI, my second Rezound had great battery life but in all honesty it matches my Nexus. I've hit 12-18 hours every day this week, and it's been a normal work week for me. There's no WiFi for me to connect to from 6:30am until 6:00pm, I'm on 4g the entire time and streaming music for 1-2 hours a day. I don't had a ton of screen on time at the end of the day 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
If you stick with your Rezound you'll have ICS in a few months more than likely, and it does have many of the cool features already built in like the screenshot capability. I hope you are ok with S-On because you can't assume that it will ever be unlocked. Odds are that eventually it will, but until it happens you have to determine your level of satisfaction with it as the phone stands now.
Good luck in your decision.

100% happy with mine. Hands down love this unlocked, rooted, custom rom, OC kernel, blazing fast phone

Asking for your local VZW store's reps' opinions is like asking a Genius at an Apple store, I wouldn't trust their "expertise" about much more than flipping burgers
Unlock your bootloader and enjoy your amazing phone sir.

T-Keith said:
I wouldn't put too much faith in the store employees. Most are not that informed.
It's a good phone, certain aspects may not be as good but the pluses outweigh the negatives.
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They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
player911 said:
I had a "temp" rezound for a week. Loved the phone. In fact I recommended it to a few "semi-techie" (non flashing) co-workers. We're IT guys and service hotels. We climb ladders and run cables. So a heavy-duty phone is nice. The Rezound felt like a heavy duty phone that the guys like. Signal and battery was good.
For me, I prefer the Nexus. I have the extended battery which doesn't add much but every little bit helps on android phones. Both last about the same time with battery life. The Rezound was my temp phone, so I really wasn't interested in setting it up. Just used it barely for work calls. The Nexus, I can't put down. Surfing, emails, games, customization, etc. Both last about 15+ hours with a few hours at night surfing XDA. Pretty impressed.
Signal (just going by bars) was "better" with the Rezound. We know now that Verizon beefs up their signal bars ala iPhone style. Verizon phones typically show 3-4 bars where the Nexus will show 0-1. Both still have the same -db levels thus both getting the same service, but the Nexus is showing TRUE signals bars. Verizon is supposedly working on a patch to increase the number of bars per -db. It's a visual issue. The latest Verizon radio (not public yet) fixes lots of the 3G/4G hand-offs and works much better. Battery life has also greatly improved with the, currently unreleased, 4.0.3 + New Radio/Baseband.
I do disable LTE because I get 2-4mb 3G in my area, which is plenty for syncing emails and facebook type stuff. I don't need a 60+Mbps LTE cell connection all day.
After some pretty heavy usage today at work (SMS, surfing, games , emails, xda), from 8am-2pm I have 75% battery left on the Nexus. 25% in 6 hours = 24 hours battery life
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How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.

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They might not know everything, but they should have a grasp on what phones are getting returned/exchanged, which probably eats at their commision.
The lady that helped me with a tbolt accessory tonight had the nexus and liked it. Told her I couldn't wait and got the rezound, and she said that was a good phone too.
I agree with others that verizon has its own agenda and is pushing moto products over superior htc and samsung devices...
How does this explain most people seeing a 20db difference from the nexus (or charge) and any other 4g device? Seems to me, the signal bar indicator isn't necessarily the problem.
I know on my rezound, I will show no bars of 4g and still have a connection (usually around -100). With 4 bars I'm usually -75 or so.
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I currently have a nexus and love the phone, hate the reception. I can't get signal where my droidx could. I pray they can fix it before 1/15 or I will have to return it.
The rezound only displays 3G signal not 4G, try switching to cdma and you see that the DBs remain the same. Not sure why that is but I have spent a lot of time considering this as a alternate phone and there is now way to tell what the DB level is of 4G from the status menu.

With light use today. I'm at 61% at 11pm off a charge from 9am. 9am-11pm.
That's awesome. With light use my Rezound would still be about dead at 11-midnight.
Light use = several (4-5) quick phone calls. Texting. Push Gmail/exchange. Twitter/Facebook. Wordfued. XDA.
4.0.3 CM9 Lang w/ latest LTE radio/baseband.
They can always pump more power to the radio antenna to get better signal but at the loss of battery life.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

New guy here coming from Evo4g... Few questions.

Hey guys,
I finally made it over to the Nexus from Sprint. I did it thru amazon and saved 200 bucks... its a no brainer. None the less, I have a few questions about the Nexus Forums.
I see there is a section for CDMA development, but when I have a general question about the nexus, it would pertain to both the CDMA and non-CDMA models right? As in the phones are the same, minus the type of radio they use? So say I want a screen protector, it would work for both models and not just Verizons model.
Im going to get an extended battery, the Verizon one seems to be where its at, no? I didnt see it on their website, whats the price? Does the ebay TPU cases work with the extended batteries?
I now know about the signal issues, just to clarify, if I have a "bad" one the signal will drop out even in a good solid 4g area right? My fiance and I just went to verizon, and she went with the razr. So I would be able to use her phone as a comparison for what speeds I "should" be getting.
Anything else to look out for?
Cant wait fellas...

Screen protectors will work for both phones.
The extended batteries are specific. For the LTE version the extended battery is a must IMO.
A lot of TPU cases such as the androidified ones are compatible with the cdma extended battery.
Never had signal issues, it will depend on your area. Also, the update coming soon is rumored to address this with a new radio
Congrats on the new phone.
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Thanks. I picked up screen protectors, Diztronics TPU and Im trying to find the 25 dollar verizon battery deal. I think its been over for a bit now..

Amazon has the battery or $35. It was $28 the other day...I think Verizon is sold out.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I515BBGSTA-Verizon-Extended-Battery/dp/B006NYP94O/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
For questions, the general forum has GSM and CDMA together as most things pertain to both devices. The only separated section is development.
If your phone is keeping a 4G signal and you are surfing the web without it constantly losing signal then coming back on your phone should be fine. If your wife's Razr has a better signal or might pick up 4G in area's where you cannot, that is just the phone and not a defect.

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks. I picked up screen protectors, Diztronics TPU and Im trying to find the 25 dollar verizon battery deal. I think its been over for a bit now..
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If you can handle the *slight* inconvenience, a solution I'm currently using is actually two standard OEM batteries. For $29.99 you can actually get the standard battery, external charger, and Y-Cable to charge both the battery and your phone at the same time. I chose this option over the extended battery because from what I've read the extended doesn't add that much juice, plus I wanted to continue to use my regular accessories. So basically now when I run out of juice on one battery, I pop the other in and let the other charge. It's actually been really convenient because it only takes roughly 2-3 hours to charge to extra battery, and the fastest I've drained my phone was around 4-5 hours.
Welcome to the Galaxy Nexus and Verizon!
EDIT: Here's a link to the product I'm talking about. It's $39.99 online, but you can get it for $29.99 in store.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12922&accessoryId=49880

[email protected] said:
Amazon has the battery or $35. It was $28 the other day...I think Verizon is sold out.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-I515BBGSTA-Verizon-Extended-Battery/dp/B006NYP94O/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
For questions, the general forum has GSM and CDMA together as most things pertain to both devices. The only separated section is development.
If your phone is keeping a 4G signal and you are surfing the web without it constantly losing signal then coming back on your phone should be fine. If your wife's Razr has a better signal or might pick up 4G in area's where you cannot, that is just the phone and not a defect.
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hey man, see I made the switch haha... ( no more this or that threads from me )
Thanks man.

damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )

mroneeyedboh said:
damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )
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Believe me, most of us love our devices. Even I do, despite having to have my screen fixed for discoloration and banding issues. But people are more likely to post issues than compliments. Not to say there aren't issues, or that they are necessarily isolated. But I think with time you'll realize you made a great choice, especially if you keep up with the dev community.

True, dont get me wrong I hate sense, I dont use it. But if I cant use the phone because the data drops and the phone calls dont stay connected WTF? lol sure I should have realized that before but soooo many people pushed the GNEX. Yeah very easily persuaded. I'll see how it pans out.

To be honest I don't have issue with data service or any of that. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. I came from sprint also so maybe I just feel spoiled from the super fast data speeds I get now compared to sprint. I used to roam internationally with sprint at my house and now I get good 4g service at home. I didn't even have 4g from sprint where I live. But my gnex is really good to me.
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mroneeyedboh said:
True, dont get me wrong I hate sense, I dont use it. But if I cant use the phone because the data drops and the phone calls dont stay connected WTF? lol sure I should have realized that before but soooo many people pushed the GNEX. Yeah very easily persuaded. I'll see how it pans out.
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I believe Amazon gives you 30 days for an exchange. That is more then enough time to figure out if the device works for you or not. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if we see an update within the next 30 days.
Oh, I haven't had a dropped call yet so not sure about that one either. My defective Gnex didn't even drop a call.

Thanks eman. Yeah amazon is 30 days on the replacement. Now let me ask you this. say the phone I get tomorrow is bad, I'll replace it say in 7 days. When the next one comes do I have around 23 days left, or does the 30 days start again? And Im talking about the replacement phone, say its bad do I get another 30 days for that one too?

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks eman. Yeah amazon is 30 days on the replacement. Now let me ask you this. say the phone I get tomorrow is bad, I'll replace it say in 7 days. When the next one comes do I have around 23 days left, or does the 30 days start again? And Im talking about the replacement phone, say its bad do I get another 30 days for that one too?
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lol, if you go through that many phones in 30 days, you might want to go with something else...
When I received my replacement I actually asked this same question. They told me I had 30 days from the date of the replacement. If I were you I would call Amazon and just confirm that with them. I wasn't worried because I still had a lot of time within my first 30 days anyway.
If my 2nd phone would have been bad, not sure what I would have done as no other phone on Verizon really interested me.

mroneeyedboh said:
damn I thik you guys set me up haha. Ive been reading page after page here in the forum and it seems like there is more and more guys having issues with the muting, loss call issues etc etc. WTF haha. NOT good. Too bad I made the switch today. It seems like its not even worth the hassle ( with the gnex )
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In my opinion and experience on forums, you will generally hear more people stating issues than those praising their phone. You will also have those that are NEVER satisfied. I would take what you read on a forum with a grain of salt and simply try what works best for you and make your own determination. Opinions on any device, or any tech, will vary depending upon location (with regards to signal), the person, their past and present expereinces, and so on.
That said, I read a lot throughout various forums of people complaining about their signal compared to the Thunderbolt and how the TB carried a better signal than the GNex. Im my experience, my GNEX would show fewer bars but have higher UL/DL speeds and a far better signal in general. For example, where my TB would show 4 bars 3G, my GNEX would show 1 bar 3g. However, my UL/DL speeds on my Genx were far better. You cant really compare signal when dealing with two seperate manufacturers radios either, and Im sure most will say that either im lying about my speeds or lucky. Im in the DC area if that matters. Im just stating my experience.
I will say that while I dont have dropped calls with the Nexus, I do at times have issues connecting to a call after hanging up on another call. This was never an issue on any other phone I had.
That said, while there are some issues I have personally with the phone at times, the pros outweight the cons to me. I love this phone and to me, its the best I've owned.
Also, my wife and I came from Sprint, her a little later than me. I had the Evo, went to the Thunderbolt. I also had the Razor and Rezound for about a week and flipped them while keeping my Nexus. My biggest dissapointment with this phone between all Ive owned is the speaker, but its not a huge deal to me anymore...I use a jambox for that now.

Cool bro I'm in Pasadena MD and work in DC. So hopefully I wont have any issues.

Buy Now or Wait for 4.0.5

Hi,
I currently have the D3, my third Droid phone and was looking at the Verizon Nexus. From many threads here and on the Verizon forums, some seems to have significant problems with this phone. I know the forums usually tend to have a lot more user complaints.
My use is about 2500 min/mo on the phone and I use it throughout the day for email, browsing, maps, etc. The blogs and other reviews tend to be favorable. So, would you buy this phone again, wait for 4.0.5, or just look at something else?
I'm also considering the Razr Maxx but Motorola is so slow in getting updates to its phones, if at all, I"m hesitant to get a 4th Motorola Droid. And, there's always the iphone4S...

I always wonder if companies are paying people to post messages like these on competitors forums and then I remember reading that they in fact do just that.
Should I do you wrong with that assumption mgerbasio, I politely suggest less asking and more reading on this forum.

I would buy this phone again. With Verizon you do have choice. The updates unfortunately for the GNex on Verizon will not be coming with lightning speed either. The Razr Max is a good alternative but I would not get anything now without ICS. Who knows when the update will come.

Valynor said:
I always wonder if companies are paying people to post messages like these on competitors forums and then I remember reading that they in fact do just that.
Should I do you wrong with that assumption mgerbasio, I politely suggest less asking and more reading on this forum.
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He has been a member of XDA for 8 years. 4 more than you. I really doubt he is what you say he is.

mgerbasio said:
Hi,
I currently have the D3, my third Droid phone and was looking at the Verizon Nexus. From many threads here and on the Verizon forums, some seems to have significant problems with this phone. I know the forums usually tend to have a lot more user complaints.
My use is about 2500 min/mo on the phone and I use it throughout the day for email, browsing, maps, etc. The blogs and other reviews tend to be favorable. So, would you buy this phone again, wait for 4.0.5, or just look at something else?
I'm also considering the Razr Maxx but Motorola is so slow in getting updates to its phones, if at all, I"m hesitant to get a 4th Motorola Droid. And, there's always the iphone4S...
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I just got my Verizon gnex last week and am enjoying it so far. It does tend to get a weaker network signal than my Droid Charge did but still works everywhere the charge did. Minus that I have no other issues yet and based off my small usage so far would recommend it. I also compared it to the Razr but I just like Samsung phones better in general.

Wow, thanks for the fast replies.
I wish someone would pay me for posting in forums, but no, just trying to get some information. If you're new to this phone and read the first several pages here and at Verizon (especially), you get a sense that maybe this phone isn't quite ready for prime time. Yet, the reviews and blogs have been favorable.
I'm not that concerned that the updates are delayed a month, but with non-Nexus phones, you're lucky to see any major OS update. Motorola has terrific hardware but they have no policy about updates and customer communication is POOR with no follow through. My D3 probably won't get ICS and it is less than a year old. Had the Razr received ICS as rumored this week, I would have gone with that phone.
My D3 performs OK but I had to get rid of the live wallpaper and most of the widgets so it is reasonably responsive. I'm sure if I root and delete the bloat it would be better. The D4 battery is too small for me so just looking around right now.
Well I'll have 14 days to try it so maybe I'll give it a shot.

I also have this phone for a about a week now it has some issues that annoy me like the keyboard word input lag and signal strength but am sure its all software issues which will be fix soon. At this point I dont even care what phone comes out am satisfied.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

The only issue i have is its pentile, which a sfw update cant fix...so i have no signal issues

If you like android, I wouldn't leave for an iPhone. I think you'll regret it. Outside of that, I can't offer any other suggestions because I haven't decided myself what to pull the trigger on. I'm stuck between the rezound and the gnex. Or the incredible 4G if it does actually drop this month. And assuming it actually has a bigger battery. But I do know that a couple of demos in the store that I played with had major "burn in", if that's what it's called, and I don't know how, or if that is frequent. That does kinda bother me though.

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If you like android, I wouldn't leave for an iPhone. I think you'll regret it. Outside of that, I can't offer any other suggestions because I haven't decided myself what to pull the trigger on. I'm stuck between the rezound and the gnex. Or the incredible 4G if it does actually drop this month. And assuming it actually has a bigger battery. But I do know that a couple of demos in the store that I played with had major "burn in", if that's what it's called, and I don't know how, or if that is frequent. That does kinda bother me though.
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Amoled screens do get image retention a lot but it fades after just a few seconds of changed screen. Like burn in in that you can see the previous screen but goes away quickly, are you sure this isn't what you saw? I have personally never seen one with actual burn in.

I didn't play with them long enough for them to change, but it was clearly visible over the screen I was on. So it does go away? Not like the old plasma tvs that were permanently "burnt"?

Pentile screen doesn't bother me, I really like the screen on my Motorola D3 which is pentile, it is very readable indoors and outdoors even in bright sunlight.
I'd rather not get the iphone but I wouldn't rule it out. I had the original ipad, then bought the Xoom, now have the ipad3. I'd much rather have android but the screen on the ipad3 makes all the other limitations something I can live with. The iphone screen will probably be too small though. The D3 gets very laggy with widgets and live wallpaper so now my screen has mostly icons and I'm thinking if this is the case, I may as well have nice looking icons like a iphone.
If I was going to wait, it would be for the Droid Fighter.
Thanks again, I'm planning on heading to my local Verizon store on Monday to pick up the Nexus.