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I love my dinc! But what's next?

I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
Sent from my 2.3.4 Incredible Obsession

wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
Comments?
It's wall to wall walls in this place!!!
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.

I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.

ithrewitontheground said:
I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*

I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.

I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.

actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps

Keyboards said:
HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
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TheWhiteBandito said:
I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.

JoelZ9614 said:
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/

Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.

I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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rfarrah said:
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
ADR6300

What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.

k_nivesout said:
I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.

loonatik78 said:
What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
loonatik78 said:
absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
loonatik78 said:
I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there

Kiboe said:
that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.

loonatik78 said:
Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.

Would you recommend this phone today?

Hi guys, i've posted before, I used to have a Droid X but sold it for a reason, how do you guys like the Dinc? Any of you guys had a phone with a bigger screen before? Have you gotten used to typing on it? How is the overall experience with the Dinc?

Well I love my Dinc. I'm coming from an Eris previously though so to me it does seem 'bigger'. It for sure has the speed and power with whatever I need it to do. So no issue there. IDK, I guess its the difference between what you want and what you need it to do. It is an older device with scimpy support of course from VZW and HTC. But then again we have some awesome devs on here that are still putting in a lot of work for the device. But if you want the latest tech you should deferentially hold of for something like the Vigor(inc hd?) or drop some cash right now for the Inc2 or dare I even say Thunderbolt? lol. Time moves on and tech keeps getting better.

cvbcbcmv said:
do not get the thunderbolt. It is such a bad decision. Do not even consider it. I love this phone though, if you can wait, definitely wait for the vigor. I have a strong feeling that's what's gonna be in my pocket on December 14th (my upgrade day)
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Well, I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. The Thunderbolt is without a doubt the single best device Verizon has. Nothing else does as much so well. HTC attempted to do something NO OTHER PHONE has ever done, and succeeded; simultaneous voice and EVDO/LTE data. The Charge doesn't do it, and neither does the LG. Of course waiting is an option, but a stupid one in my estimation because it's an argument that could be made at any point in time about any device. Assuming you're going to wait and get it at or near launch, you're virtually stuck with whatever HTC and Verizon deem worthy for it to run. Root is another question altogether. I've argued with several people about the merits of the Tbolt, usually with people that have hardly touched one. Bottom line is that I've yet to hand my phone to someone who didn't find it just stupid-fast and a pure pleasure to use. The stock battery pounds both the EVO 4G and dInc right into the ground by a solid margin of 30% while running 1.5GHz.
To directly answer the question of whether I'd recommend the dInc today, no, I certainly wouldn't. If I had to recommend a phone, it would be the Tbolt first, the dInc2 second for those who've got little hope of seeing LTE in the near future. I wouldn't recommend waiting to get a Vigor or whatever it shall be called for 2 reasons. First, nobody knows what's really inside that phone. Second, nobody know how it's actually going to perform. There was all this orgasmic hype around the Tbolt. When it launched, it had some issues that were't exactly clear, but have since been resolved to the tune of solid 1 day battery lives and practically flawless operation and reliability. But still, I see posts like this, clearly uninformed, bashing on a truly excellent device, one which seems to have some of the most unique and exciting development of any device I'm aware of. I can't speak for phones that don't exist, but today, as this is written, the Tbolt is the BEST device Verizon has ever sold, supported by the fastest network, providing feature NO other device offers.

Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.

Juanito216 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.
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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.

I would get a thunderbolt only because ihtfp is working his magic on it. Skyraider Zeus looks incredible!
That said, I would still recommend the incredible to someone who likes small form phones. Its the last of its kind and runs like a champ with a vast selection of custom roms. However I am not sure how many of these roms will play nice with the carrier you plan on going to.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.

Gotta say I love the dinc (like previous poster said, it's size — I can slip it in my back pocket); I intend to keep buying dincs (ebay) until droids stop trending into tablet-sized paperweights.
But one issue with the dinc is the infuriatingly small amount of phone memory; I haven't hit on the issue myself (I clean app caches regularly, don't install every app on the market), but it's a bit douchey that internal memory is 8G, but only about 700MB is 'phone memory'. If there was one thing I could change about the stock phone, it would be the phone memory partition.
Otherwise, development for dInc is [no pun] incredible. If you don't mind the size, tb or dinc2 would be good options, too.
(And if you're not going with vzw and don't care about size, hold out for the freaking samsung galaxy 2!)

br125 said:
it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.
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I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.

Juanito216 said:
I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.
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That's not that hard. I have a friend who does that stuff. The AMOLED is a little harder to find than the SLCD and they aren't compatible. All the digitizers are the same. Use the tape to mount it, not glue. I've heard stories of it bleeding over into the screen area.

I think it would depend on price and availability.
If you can get it cheap, and options like the Thunderbolt or Incredible 2 aren't available for whatever reason, it's still a good phone.

I would certainly recommend and do recommend the Incredible, maybe not for bleeding-edge people, but for anyone I want to introduce to the wonders of Android, I always tell them to go for the Incredible, and everyone that has have all been as blown away as I first was. The most solid phone I've ever owned by a massive margin.
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Dinc has been really worth it b/c of ease of use and rooting. I would recommend this phone for anyone wanting to get into this sorta stuff.

Questions

I currently have the regular Epic 4G (w/ keyboard). I'm trying to decide if I want to get this phone or wait a little longer. I'm not sure how many people switched from the Epic but there were quite a few bugs. I'm concerned that it carried over to the Epic 4G touch.
I started off with the moment and some of the problems carried over to the Epic. And even after developers on here got ahold of it, they still weren't able to solve some of the issues.
Here is a list of the issues I am concerned with:
1) Switching from wireless back to 3G. On the epic, after switching to wireless and then back, I can't turn wireless back on. It just errors out and I need to reboot my phone to be able to connect to wireless. Does the Epic Touch do that?
2) Time without signal. This issue eventually got solved but it took a custom kernel and some tweaks. This was also an issue with the Samsung Moment. Is this an issue with stock?
3) GPS. Seems like most samsung phones have problems with GPS. I use it alot when I travel and I need something reliable. Does it lock reliably? And I'm not just talking the first time. I'm talking all the time. Maybe it's too soon to tell with this. This was also an issue with the Moment.
I'm kind of weary of getting another samsung. Seeing how long they take with updates and their issues that keep carrying over from phone to phone.
If anyone has any input on the issues above, please comment. At this point in time, I'm going to wait it and see what kind of problems arise. Hopefully by that point, there will be some concrete news about the Nexus Prime.
TIA!

After using since 10:00 am Friday morning I have none of those problems. I had a problem with swype not spacing words but after using for a while it has corrected itself(must be a learning program). I say go for it this devise is awesome straight out of the box.

My last long term phone was the Moment, so I completely understand where you are coming from. I was eligible for upgrade a couple months ago and have since left the moment to go through the 3d, the MoPho and now the E4gT. I had the 3d for about two weeks and loved it, except for the call quality issues so it had to go. Then got the MoPho and I absolutely LOVED it and still do.
The E4gT is awesome, don't get me wrong. The screen size and screen period has the MoPho beat, but not by a whole lot. Im not a big gamer so it isnt that big of a deal. The GPS on both seem to work very well and the call quality is excellent with both. Still sort of early to tell a clear winner there, for me anyways.
I found a case at the Sprint store that has a kickstand but its not near as cool as the MoPho's but it makes a big difference to have that. Plust, the case makes the E4gT easier to hold, because due to its size (4.52inches PLUS how thin it is) it can be awkward to hold at times, but I'm getting past all that now.
Music speaker quality the MoPho does have it beat there. The Sammy's is good, but not as good.
As far as reception, MoPho wins there too. Not even a competition. There is supposedly a fix for this, but again Samsung, why am I doing YOUR work? So that does leave a bad taste in my mouth with that one.
All in all I'm giving it the old college try. I really liked my MoPho and I do miss it, but seemingly less every day. I know the E4gT dominates all benchmarks and graphical rendering, but all I want my phone to do is work, and work well - so far, the E4gT is doing just that and more.
Moving from the Moment, any and all are a SIGNIFICANT step up but still, I want to be happy with this purchase and have no worries about the future. I'm worried about future support from Sammy though. Moto has already updated the MoPho twice since release, we will see how Sammy supports this beast.
If on the fence, try them all out. Remember, WE are the consumers and we have a 30 or 45 day return policy in place for a reason. Do the needful.

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My last long term phone was the Moment, so I completely understand where you are coming from. I was eligible for upgrade a couple months ago and have since left the moment to go through the 3d, the MoPho and now the E4gT. I had the 3d for about two weeks and loved it, except for the call quality issues so it had to go. Then got the MoPho and I absolutely LOVED it and still do.
The E4gT is awesome, don't get me wrong. The screen size and screen period has the MoPho beat, but not by a whole lot. Im not a big gamer so it isnt that big of a deal. The GPS on both seem to work very well and the call quality is excellent with both. Still sort of early to tell a clear winner there, for me anyways.
I found a case at the Sprint store that has a kickstand but its not near as cool as the MoPho's but it makes a big difference to have that. Plust, the case makes the E4gT easier to hold, because due to its size (4.52inches PLUS how thin it is) it can be awkward to hold at times, but I'm getting past all that now.
Music speaker quality the MoPho does have it beat there. The Sammy's is good, but not as good.
As far as reception, MoPho wins there too. Not even a competition. There is supposedly a fix for this, but again Samsung, why am I doing YOUR work? So that does leave a bad taste in my mouth with that one.
All in all I'm giving it the old college try. I really liked my MoPho and I do miss it, but seemingly less every day. I know the E4gT dominates all benchmarks and graphical rendering, but all I want my phone to do is work, and work well - so far, the E4gT is doing just that and more.
Moving from the Moment, any and all are a SIGNIFICANT step up but still, I want to be happy with this purchase and have no worries about the future. I'm worried about future support from Sammy though. Moto has already updated the MoPho twice since release, we will see how Sammy supports this beast.
If on the fence, try them all out. Remember, WE are the consumers and we have a 30 or 45 day return policy in place for a reason. Do the needful.
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Thanks for you thorough response and I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from. Since Sprint nixed their premier program, I'm no longer eligible to get a yearly upgrade @ $150. So that means I'll need to pick my phones more wisely since I won't be upgrading every year.
Sprint also changed the return policy to 14 days now so we no longer have 30. They keep nickel and diming us and we still get the same ****ty service and all the carriers cap their data at 2gb. Doesn't fly with me since I average 4-5 gigs a month. So I guess I'm stuck choosing the lesser of two evils, which for now, is Sprint.
I'm at the point where I just want my phone to work without having to flash/tweaking the hell out of it. I know some will say to just get the Iphone but I hate it with a passion and will never own one.
Sammy's support flat out sucks so that's one of the reasons why I am hesitant. They just have a few things that they seemingly refuse to fix even though it's been present in the last 2 phones with keyboards. I'm about fed up with the KB models as well since none of them have worked correctly. Before the moment I had the HTC Touch Pro and I went through 3 of those because of the KB issues. I won't ever buy HTC again.
So maybe the best of both worlds is to just wait it out and see if sprint gets the Nexus Prime. Quicker updates with superior hardware.
Thanks again for your review.

GPS works great.
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blazinazn said:
Thanks for you thorough response and I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from. Since Sprint nixed their premier program, I'm not longer eligible to get a yearly upgrade @ $150. So that means I'll need to pick my phones more wisely since I won't be upgrading every year.
Sprint also changed the return policy to 14 days now so we no longer have 30. They keep nickel and diming us and we still get the same ****ty service and all the carriers cap their data at 2gb. Doesn't fly with me since I average 4-5 gigs a month. So I guess I'm stuck choosing the lesser of two evils, which for now, is Sprint.
I'm at the point where I just want my phone to work without having to flash/tweaking the hell out of it. I know some will say to just get the Iphone but I hate it with a passion and will never own one.
Sammy's support flat out sucks so that's one of the reasons why I am hesitant. They just have a few things that they seemingly refuse to fix even though it's been present in the last 2 phones with keyboards. I'm about fed up with the KB models as well since none of them have worked correctly. Before the moment I had the HTC Touch Pro and I went through 3 of those because of the KB issues. I won't ever buy HTC again.
So maybe the best of both worlds is to just wait it out and see if sprint gets the Nexus Prime. Quicker updates with superior hardware.
Thanks again for your review.
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I don't know where you're getting a 14 day return period. Maybe that's at Sprint stores, idk, but at bestbuy I have 45 days due to sprint premier status, and radioshack was 30 days for non-cosmetic issues or however they term it, it basically meant 30 days in my mind.
And if I were you, try the MoPho. Sounds like you are going to be happy with that. If not, try the Sammy. If at the end of either of those you are still dissatisfied, take it back, get money back and wait it out.

[Q] GNex worth it?

Hi -- I have a Droid Charge and while I like it, I admit I'm jealous of the GNex, or at least of what the Gnex is supposed to be. I don't have an upgrade coming until 2013, but may be able to add a "ghost line" to my account and pick up a Gnex for $300 at a Verizon store, then sell my Charge. But I've heard there are major battery/speakerphone/radio-connectivity/other issues with the Gnex. So my question is... is everyone here in love with theirs? Any regrets? Anyone who was jonesing to get one but is now disappointed? Any opinions out there that can help me make my choice, I'd be so grateful. Thanks!!!

I'm going to try to post this as politely as I can without sounding like an @$$hole because I am not trying to be rude, but you could likely gather a vast pool of information by reviewing the several hundred threads within the Galaxy Nexus category to see what the common complaint is.
To not be completely useless in posting here, I personally enjoy the Galaxy Nexus a lot. You'll find people complain about all the same things as every other phone, including but not limited to:
Battery life
Screen durability
Screen brightness
Software incompatibilities
Camera function, performance, and/or capability
etc....

I've looked at a lot of threads, but I wanted to try and get an overview that wasn't necessarily based on squeaky wheels. A thousand people may love it and have no problem, but the ten who do post and negative connotations are born. I did do a search for an opinion thread like mine, and didn't find anything. For anyone who feels like the above poster, I apologize. For any others who don't mind giving me their opinion, I'd appreciate it.

Was in a similar position like you... I could get mine for a few bucks less, but I wasn't sure at all. But then I thought I'll give it a go and if I don't like it I'd just sell it.
After two weeks all I can say is I just love that phone and it was the the best buy since a long time.
Imo the screen is absolutely amazing, the image is razor-sharp due to the hd resolution and the colors are pretty "natural". What I'm trying to say with "natural" is, that when I compare the screen with the Galaxy S2 from a mate, the Nexus is more vibrant. The S2 is brighter, but looks kinda artificial. You could say the Nex looks more like a printed page and the S2 like a computer screen. The black on the Nex screen is truly black!
Battery life is ok, pretty good in idle is you ask me. But when you actually use your phone, the big screen takes its toll... but I have no problem to get over an entire day, even with heavy use. A lot of messaging, facebook, listening to music for an hour, at least an hour of playing games, playing around with my screen setup and voice calls (30 mins) today and I came home with 25% left.
And yes, there are some occasional software issues. But nothing big that would make the device unusable. Small glitches, you could say. After all it's a developer phone.
The phone itself looks very nice with the all-glass front and the overall feel is high-quality.
To sum it up: yes, there are some small issues, like with every other device. And yes, I would say, there is a big chance that you might like the GNex or even love it, like me
If you got any questions, feel free to ask!

I got an upgrade coming up on the 23rd so thanks to the OP for asking this question.
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Flx -grafix, thanks for such a thourough response! I see you're outside of the US, are you on a 4G network? Just want to gauge your battery life. Also, a lot of people have complained about the speaker, is it loud enough in your opinion?

billku said:
I've looked at a lot of threads, but I wanted to try and get an overview that wasn't necessarily based on squeaky wheels. A thousand people may love it and have no problem, but the ten who do post and negative connotations are born. I did do a search for an opinion thread like mine, and didn't find anything. For anyone who feels like the above poster, I apologize. For any others who don't mind giving me their opinion, I'd appreciate it.
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i absolutely LOVE mine, but it is the GSM version not the verizon one. it seems the verizon version with LTE has bad battery problems where it loses 20% overnight with no usage. the GSM version loses 4% over an 8 hour period. so i dont know how i would feel about that.

Yeah, Roger, that does concern me a lot. As the guy who chided me posted, battery issues on 4g phones are fairly common, but I'm hearing that the LTE version of the GNex's issues are pretty egregious.

billku said:
Flx -grafix, thanks for such a thourough response! I see you're outside of the US, are you on a 4G network? Just want to gauge your battery life. Also, a lot of people have complained about the speaker, is it loud enough in your opinion?
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No, I'm not on a 4G network, so I can't tell you about the battery life. I'm on a HSDPA net here. Compared to my HTC Desire S (Saga), the only noticable difference is that the GN drains more battery while the screen is on. But that is just plain logic, since the screen is much bigger and the resolution is higher. I'm also still on 4.0.1, the battery life on 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 is supposed to be even better.
The speaker volume is pretty low, that is right. But this is also something that's fixed with the update afaik and there is also an app in the market which lets you boost the speaker volume. This is definitely no reason for not buying the phone!
Any more questions? Just ask! And if helped you, pressing the thanks button is highly appreciated

Over all .... I am very happy with the Nexus and have no buyers remorse
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I am (slowly) moving an entire family plan to Verizon... largely because of the GN, but mostly because they have coverage everywhere I need it.
I live in the DFW area, so 4G has been steady and available all over my daily living/working spaces (except work, where the building kills the LTE but I can use it outside.)
Anyway, I know there are a lot of people with issues but I have to say, I have loved this phone every second so far. My battery life has been fine, could be better, because I don't use it every second of the day. I use a BlackBerry for work, so that helps, I guess.
I say go for it... if you don't like it you have like 14 days to return it and only be out the prorated service costs, I believe. (That's how Sprint was, anyway. Surely VZW does the same.)

For what its worth, I tweaked my phone's speaker with dspmanager. It is plenty loud and has more detail and bass with less of a high treble tin sound. Better speaker IMO vs the rezound and charge.
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for those who's got Gnex already: dont regret!! it was a great choice.
for those who hasnot got: Gnex is no much better than gs2, except for ICS (sg2 is getting ICS anyway).
however, giving the fact i have both devices. i have to say, Gnex is compatible with way more games (especially gameloft and ea games) on the google market, whie gs2 is not.

Thanks everyone for all these replies! I have worried about the reception/radio issues, though I'm in a strong 4G area, Los Angeles, so I'm hoping if I get the GNex I'll have similar results as Is_907.
Again, really appreciate all this, it's making me lean towards taking the plunge...

Don't let people with razr/rezound tell you otherwise, this is the best phone by far all around - however it has some deal breakers that are subjective (like the storage).
Now the real question is, is it worth the upgrade from a Droid Charge? I would honestly say no.
My dad and sister both have them, while nexus is definitely a step up - droid charge is pretty much the best of the last gen phones, I would wait for the next big thing - like galaxy s3, which will also likely have samoled+ hd and sd card.
Just put cm7 and load ics theme for now. (I did that on my moto triumph and fell in love with it again)

billku said:
Thanks everyone for all these replies! I have worried about the reception/radio issues, though I'm in a strong 4G area, Los Angeles, so I'm hoping if I get the GNex I'll have similar results as Is_907.
Again, really appreciate all this, it's making me lean towards taking the plunge...
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Verizon 4G coverage is pretty good and I have a signal everywhere I go (and speeds are INCREDIBLE). I haven't seen any reception issues.

Interesting, wonshikee. You've got me thinking...

I hear keeping 4G off when not needed helps a lot with the battery. I only live in a 3G area so I'm not 100% certain. Just use 4G when needed, 3g if OK for normal operation.
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It also charges freakishly fast. It charges so fast that I thought it was fake at first.
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I had a DC. I'm not looking back. That should speak for itself.
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have both nexus and razr need some input

Ok Ive had the Droid Razr since its release date. 2 days ago i purchased a GNex. I liked the razr and the build of it but i am a flash maniac and there isnt any developement really on the razr. I love the nexus interface and ICS. However reception and sound is much better on the razr. My issue is i need to sell one or the other and quite fast. I need to know from people who have had both or the nexus for a long period which device to stick with. Its a hard decision not having more then a few days with the Gnex. PLEASE HELP !

Personally i would go with the GN. A friend of mine has it and ill be buying one shortly replacing my Bionic

I have both, and came to a very simple conclusion: If you want a great phone (and more), then keep the razr. If you want a toy, stay with the gnex.
RAZR ROCKS!

I'd go with the GN, mostly because of two things: the screen on the Razr is (supposedly) inferior and the GN will have support from both devs and google for a LONG time. I'm thinking the Razr's gonna die out in about 6 months.

tsunami1609 has hit it on the head... I would choose the GNex because of the screen, the fact that it is a Nexus and also the fact that no buttons on the front (fixed ones...) means an additional aspect of the phone can be customised by using ROMs, etc.
Had mine for about a month now, and really enjoying it.

Please don't think I am being flippant. This is just my humble opinion.
It sounds like to me you really like the RAZR but somehow want some of us on here to try and talk you into keeping the Galaxy Nexus. If that is not the case then I apologize.
Take my advice. Keep the Razr and turn the nexus back in. You will be much happier in the long run and the time you would have wasted reading all of the Nexus forums trying to figure out if it has this or that for you (hundreds of posts), you could be just enjoying your Razr phone and moving on with your life.
Why torture yourself with second thoughts?
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and life is too short.
I really thought the razr was great too in the store, but i decided on the Nexus and have spent the weeks I have had it investing in this one phone, not going on Razr forums trying to convince myself that I may have not bought the perfect item.
/rant off
Good luck with whatever you decide.

Asking this in the gnex section expect everyone to say gnex ask in razr section expect everyone to say razr in the end all comes down to you
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I find that when it comes to motorola, you have a better PHONE. As in reception wise and speaker/call quality. You wont be able to flash anything on the razr but it all depends on what you intend on doing with the phone. If you are a "flash maniac" though, you should choose the GN. I think the main question for you is: which is more important to you, flashing your phone or using it as a tool for what it is which is a phone.
For me, I chose the nexus mainly because I wanted direct updates from google, a longer lasting phone (support wise), an easily customizable phone, and because of the looks of it. I love how the front is completely black without any logos. Oh and the beautiful large screen as well.

junior.youngman said:
Ok Ive had the Droid Razr since its release date. 2 days ago i purchased a GNex. I liked the razr and the build of it but i am a flash maniac and there isnt any developement really on the razr. I love the nexus interface and ICS. However reception and sound is much better on the razr. My issue is i need to sell one or the other and quite fast. I need to know from people who have had both or the nexus for a long period which device to stick with. Its a hard decision not having more then a few days with the Gnex. PLEASE HELP !
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Well the RAZR is supposed to get an ICS update. Why not just keep that phone and wait patiently for the update? The sound/reception quality is probably tied to hardware, not software and if the only bonus to the GN is the software then just wait until it comes to the RAZR.
You sound like you don't mind using 2.3. I personally couldn't go back, ICS is just better for me. I also think the screen is way, way better on the GN and dedicated software buttons on Android phones just looks really dated. I'm also against Moto's new design brand language.

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Please don't think I am being flippant. This is just my humble opinion.
It sounds like to me you really like the RAZR but somehow want some of us on here to try and talk you into keeping the Galaxy Nexus. If that is not the case then I apologize.
Take my advice. Keep the Razr and turn the nexus back in. You will be much happier in the long run and the time you would have wasted reading all of the Nexus forums trying to figure out if it has this or that for you (hundreds of posts), you could be just enjoying your Razr phone and moving on with your life.
Why torture yourself with second thoughts?
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and life is too short.
I really thought the razr was great too in the store, but i decided on the Nexus and have spent the weeks I have had it investing in this one phone, not going on Razr forums trying to convince myself that I may have not bought the perfect item.
/rant off
Good luck with whatever you decide.
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actully im a huge fan of the nexus love the screen and ui and dont want to return to the nexus. im only inquiring due to the fact of negative reviews on call quality and my own experience with other people not hearing me after a few minutes. reviews are always crap. i just wanted opions of people who are actually using the phone day in and day out.

Yes the Razr will get ics. But will it get Jellybean and whatever else Google updates to? I doubt it and we will be first or second in line for it.
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Go with the Razr
As everyone else says it depends on how you plan to use the device. Aside from its beautiful screen and possible future updates beyond ICS the GN didn't impress me. I had one for a very short time and was disappointed by the things that I expect a high priced Android device to be good at: call quality, call quality, call quality... In addition, I had so many problems with the GN dropping calls, rebooting randomly, the back case not staying on....
After I traded it in for the Razr my wife immediatly noticed the difference in how I sounded over the phone. In the areas where my GN failed, I got consistent reception with the Razr.
After all, bells and whistles are nice, but the biggest reason to have a cell phone is internet access and to talk to people. I assure you that the call and 4G access issues that I had with the GN were not software related, it was hardware -- Moto is the leader when it comes to these. My thinking is, if I am going to be stuck with a device for the next two years, it had better last. It doesn't have to be the best in everything (the GN has a better screen, Razr's screen is still excellent) but it does have to be the best in call quality and 4G access. Aside from the screen, the Razr is a superior piece of hardware.
As far as ICS is concerned, stick with the Razr it will be getting it soon.

Personally I saw the razor and yes it's a nice looking phone but the screen is inferior, no ics (for now) no removable battery, and maybe doesn't even have nfc (correct me if I'm wrong). I would go for the Gnex without a blink! Oh that's exactly what I did ;-)
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I forgot to mention Google will acquire Motorola
I would get the Razr not only because it has a better build quality than the GN but also because it is about to become a direct descended of Google's product line: unlike the GN/Samsung -- Google is in the process of acquiring Moto.
If you don't believe me, read the news:
Google-Motorola deal update
By T.C. Sotteck | The Verge, Published: January 19
Reuters reported today that the European Commission has set a February 13th deadline to decide whether or not to approve Google's buyout of Motorola Mobility. The commission put the acquisition on hold back in December to get more information. Google said in December that the request for more information was "routine" and still expected the acquisition to close in 2012, and it looks like it's on track to do just that. Motorola shareholders have already given their approval, and we're still waiting to see precisely what Google wants out of the deal.
Buy the Razr...

I've only played with the RAZR at the store and have never owned one. I did however just come from a stratosphere and being big on flashing roms myself I constantly found myself checking the forums for a any kind of development. The stratosphere like the RAZR has little to no development going on. I for one am very happy with my lte nexus and have never had a drop call or problems with my data. I really think this is going to be the phone that I'll have for a long time unlike the past 5 devices I've had in less than a year.
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