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I couldn't help myself... Jumped from the EVO.

Oh my goodness, I can't get over how slim and light the Nexus is and how beautiful the screen is!

I almost got a G2 a couple days ago so I understand. Might still get one or a nexus 2.
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you should be posting in the Nexus s section lol enjoy the phone

Lol...the sharks.
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I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if there's any chance of a Sprint Nexus S. If not, I'll probably get it too. T-Mo is as cheap and even with a regular 3G radio under HSPA it's much faster than Sprint's 3G.

You'll all be back when the next version of the Evo comes out. ;-)

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I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if there's any chance of a Sprint Nexus S. If not, I'll probably get it too. T-Mo is as cheap and even with a regular 3G radio under HSPA it's much faster than Sprint's 3G.
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This is true. And the individual plans are pretty much the same now. Sprint needs a nexus. But the knight is coming soon. Its basically the G2 with sense.
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My contract was exactly the same price. The only difference now is that I have 1500 "anytime" minutes as opposed to Sprint's unlimited mobile-to-mobile (which I can live without).

not bashing anyone that get's the nexus S but i messed with a buddies and imho it feels samsungish cheap and plastic i DO love the screen and how the phone has a slight curve

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You'll all be back when the next version of the Evo comes out. ;-)
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!

If only it wasn't a Samsung, though having Google involved should speed up the response time on software fixes.

No thanks, its definately not a phone worth jumping carriers for...Actually I dont think that type of phone exists. Its a minor improvement to the epic, on a crap network. I aint missing out on anything, however there is a dual core 1.5 gz monster that is going to appear in a few weeks......(cough *Evo2*cough) and that will be exciting to see. Nexus S, not so much.

Yea, made by Samsung killed any excitement I had for this phone right away! I would like to play with one in person to check out the screen, the curve and of course 2.3
But the only phone that made me consider jumping carriers was the g2, even then I couldn't see it, but definitely not for anythign Samsung. I do hope being a google dev phone that it is still somewhat as successful as the n1 was... for the sake of androids future.

Rippley05 said:
Yea, made by Samsung killed any excitement I had for this phone right away! I would like to play with one in person to check out the screen, the curve and of course 2.3
But the only phone that made me consider jumping carriers was the g2, even then I couldn't see it, but definitely not for anythign Samsung. I do hope being a google dev phone that it is still somewhat as successful as the n1 was... for the sake of androids future.
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Not sure if thats gonna happen. People are already calling BS on TMO for claiming that its really not unlocked....even though best buy said it is....So people are ending up paying alot more for it than they expected....Shame on TMO. lol

Congrats on the phone! Like many others said, it is unfortunate that it is a Samsung, hopefully Google backs it well. Unfortunately, with every Samsung phone I have ever had the hardware was complete crap, always had problems. AND I find it interesting that the phone came out today and there still is not a root method for the phone. I remember before the Evo even came out we had a root method. I think that this shows something for the developer in interest in the phone itself. Only time will tell and I may be proved wrong, but so far its not looking too good.

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Congrats on the phone! Like many others said, it is unfortunate that it is a Samsung, hopefully Google backs it well. Unfortunately, with every Samsung phone I have ever had the hardware was complete crap, always had problems. AND I find it interesting that the phone came out today and there still is not a root method for the phone. I remember before the Evo even came out we had a root method. I think that this shows something for the developer in interest in the phone itself. Only time will tell and I may be proved wrong, but so far its not looking too good.
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epic was also rooted before its release.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=479959#post479959
its rooted

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epic was also rooted before its release.
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Hmmm not sure what your trying to say here. That is pretty interesting maybe I am wrong about support but in just black and white it seems like thats the case.

It is Samsung ... but it's also the only Samsung phone I'd even consider buying. Gotta agree though, got a good thing going with the Evo and Sprint is great around here - so it wouldn't make sense to switch phones ... let alone a carrier. And even if T-Mo speeds are faster on 3G than Sprints ... depending on coverage, that still doesn't excuse the lack of HSPA+ or no SD Card ... I dunno. I still hear people complaining about signal / reception with T-Mo. Just doesn't really make sense when you think of what is around the corner.

There will always be better phones. Always. But there will only be one (annual) true Google phone. That's it's main selling point for me. Everything Google (and a lot of top 3rd party developers) makes in 2011 will be based on the Nexus S.

thinking of selling my bolt

You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.

A) This shouldn't be in accessories.
B)You'll get about $375 for it if its perfect.
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Are you posting this because your soliciting offers, or do you want us to talk you back down to earth?
We here in the TB subthread are a hearty bunch who very much like our somewhat maligned smartphone
$375 would be optimistic, and definitely not including eBay/Paypal fees (google for a calculator to get a good idea of how much they take).
What is not doing it for you on the TB? Have you tried some of the slimmed roms?

Well to put it bluntly, I hate sense. Fixed that with launcher pro, but that doesn't let me use the sense elements I do like. The signal is crap (where I am), no 4g here yet. I only got it to be grandfathered in before the tiered data plans. Now that they are extended I'm thinking of other options. It's a ford chevy thing. You can argue it all day and no one is right or wrong. My droid x was more reliable in my area, and usability is most important to me.

Can't blame a man for that...you'll get no flaming from me.
I have a great VZW signal and LTE where I'm at. I completely understand where you are coming from.
Have you tried, for S&G, another Tbolt just to see if you could get better reception?
I'm with you on tiered data...I just got my girl her iPhone 4 Saturday (I could not convince her to come to the dark side...sorry..lol)
My advice is to try a replacement first before you sign off...but I understand if you do, regardless. Best of luck...

Yea a thunderbolt without 4g is nothing but a dinc 2. You really liked your droid x? I hated that phone, no matter OC or rom, it always was mega laggy throughout the UI. The hdmi out was nice though.

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You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.

I know the TB has no HDMI, but what do you guys use that feature for anyway?
I went from the Droid to TB and other than the battery life I love the TB! I've got 4G in my area and get 16mb download which is simply awesome. The 3 hour battery life or 5 hour if I turn off LTE sucks big time.

When does the bionic come out anyway? Im not too crazy for moto after the X and D2 days with the locked boot loaders. Even tho there were ways around it, it still sucked. Hopefully the Bionic is not the same.

I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.

not trying to diss the OP but the tbolt is the most solid phone verizon carries. i mean yeah sense sucks but i just use launcherpro + the sense 3.0 lockscreen. i mean come on man there are tons of alternative launchers on the market and xda. sounds as if he just is making excuses to dump the phone.
no offense but i think you would be happier sticking to this one as both samsung & moto phones are not the best and do not get as many updates as htc phones. trust me as ive owned almost every brand out there.

pmcall said:
I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
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i wouldn't except anything under $300 for this phone.

I'll give you a BAMFed Nook Color for it : D

Im not understanding how rooted users are getting terrible battery life. 1GHz is plenty fast for anything a phone will do leave it there and underclock it when its off, I got another 6-8 hours of battery life out of my TB and no lag what so ever.
I completely understand if you don't have 4G because if it wasn't for my awesome 4G I would have probably gotten rid of it and just waited for the galaxy s2. But the amount of dev support already for the TB has made me stick with it.

Noooooo don't selllllllll
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I don't understand why ppl don't like sense. It's slippery slick on BAMF! The battery life is not that bad if not good. It's a great phone. I dont have 4g and I still happy. Just sell it and move on to whatever...
BAMF'd Tbolt w/ tapatalk

I wouldn't sell it. The bolt is just at the point of infancy with development so who knows what other ROMs will come out
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.

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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I'm with you on this. If you wanna sell it, sell it. You shouldn't come to a forum so strangers can agree or disagree with you on that matter. I personally wish you the best of luck in your voyage on selling the device. I'd do it sooner than later considering as each day passes by, the phone you own right now is depreciating in value quickly. Hold onto the money until the next great phone comes out. Maybe the Galaxy S2 (Function). I know I'm as lost as everyone else is about that phone's specs for verizon, but I think it's going to be CDMA only w/o LTE. I'm personally waiting for that to come out before I start thinking about ditching my bolt which works great for me

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I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
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You need to turn on your 4G bud. It's been up and running in Portland, OR for at least a few weeks now. I know that it hasn't been "announced." But it's working... I live here.
Ron

Would you recommend this phone today?

Hi guys, i've posted before, I used to have a Droid X but sold it for a reason, how do you guys like the Dinc? Any of you guys had a phone with a bigger screen before? Have you gotten used to typing on it? How is the overall experience with the Dinc?

Well I love my Dinc. I'm coming from an Eris previously though so to me it does seem 'bigger'. It for sure has the speed and power with whatever I need it to do. So no issue there. IDK, I guess its the difference between what you want and what you need it to do. It is an older device with scimpy support of course from VZW and HTC. But then again we have some awesome devs on here that are still putting in a lot of work for the device. But if you want the latest tech you should deferentially hold of for something like the Vigor(inc hd?) or drop some cash right now for the Inc2 or dare I even say Thunderbolt? lol. Time moves on and tech keeps getting better.

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do not get the thunderbolt. It is such a bad decision. Do not even consider it. I love this phone though, if you can wait, definitely wait for the vigor. I have a strong feeling that's what's gonna be in my pocket on December 14th (my upgrade day)
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Well, I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. The Thunderbolt is without a doubt the single best device Verizon has. Nothing else does as much so well. HTC attempted to do something NO OTHER PHONE has ever done, and succeeded; simultaneous voice and EVDO/LTE data. The Charge doesn't do it, and neither does the LG. Of course waiting is an option, but a stupid one in my estimation because it's an argument that could be made at any point in time about any device. Assuming you're going to wait and get it at or near launch, you're virtually stuck with whatever HTC and Verizon deem worthy for it to run. Root is another question altogether. I've argued with several people about the merits of the Tbolt, usually with people that have hardly touched one. Bottom line is that I've yet to hand my phone to someone who didn't find it just stupid-fast and a pure pleasure to use. The stock battery pounds both the EVO 4G and dInc right into the ground by a solid margin of 30% while running 1.5GHz.
To directly answer the question of whether I'd recommend the dInc today, no, I certainly wouldn't. If I had to recommend a phone, it would be the Tbolt first, the dInc2 second for those who've got little hope of seeing LTE in the near future. I wouldn't recommend waiting to get a Vigor or whatever it shall be called for 2 reasons. First, nobody knows what's really inside that phone. Second, nobody know how it's actually going to perform. There was all this orgasmic hype around the Tbolt. When it launched, it had some issues that were't exactly clear, but have since been resolved to the tune of solid 1 day battery lives and practically flawless operation and reliability. But still, I see posts like this, clearly uninformed, bashing on a truly excellent device, one which seems to have some of the most unique and exciting development of any device I'm aware of. I can't speak for phones that don't exist, but today, as this is written, the Tbolt is the BEST device Verizon has ever sold, supported by the fastest network, providing feature NO other device offers.

Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.

Juanito216 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.
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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.

I would get a thunderbolt only because ihtfp is working his magic on it. Skyraider Zeus looks incredible!
That said, I would still recommend the incredible to someone who likes small form phones. Its the last of its kind and runs like a champ with a vast selection of custom roms. However I am not sure how many of these roms will play nice with the carrier you plan on going to.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.

Gotta say I love the dinc (like previous poster said, it's size — I can slip it in my back pocket); I intend to keep buying dincs (ebay) until droids stop trending into tablet-sized paperweights.
But one issue with the dinc is the infuriatingly small amount of phone memory; I haven't hit on the issue myself (I clean app caches regularly, don't install every app on the market), but it's a bit douchey that internal memory is 8G, but only about 700MB is 'phone memory'. If there was one thing I could change about the stock phone, it would be the phone memory partition.
Otherwise, development for dInc is [no pun] incredible. If you don't mind the size, tb or dinc2 would be good options, too.
(And if you're not going with vzw and don't care about size, hold out for the freaking samsung galaxy 2!)

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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.
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I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.

Juanito216 said:
I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.
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That's not that hard. I have a friend who does that stuff. The AMOLED is a little harder to find than the SLCD and they aren't compatible. All the digitizers are the same. Use the tape to mount it, not glue. I've heard stories of it bleeding over into the screen area.

I think it would depend on price and availability.
If you can get it cheap, and options like the Thunderbolt or Incredible 2 aren't available for whatever reason, it's still a good phone.

I would certainly recommend and do recommend the Incredible, maybe not for bleeding-edge people, but for anyone I want to introduce to the wonders of Android, I always tell them to go for the Incredible, and everyone that has have all been as blown away as I first was. The most solid phone I've ever owned by a massive margin.
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Dinc has been really worth it b/c of ease of use and rooting. I would recommend this phone for anyone wanting to get into this sorta stuff.

might buy this phone but...

so my upgrade is due in about a month for my og evo and was thinking about this phone because i played with it in a sprint store and really liked it except for the touchwiz part... so just wondering if there are any sense roms on this phone or if its even possible... i know there was one for the nexus s 4g. if not, no big deal because i'll probably be running ics anyway but just curious haha

there are no sense roms for this. and being a longtime user of HTC, I thought I would miss sense as well.
did not. not one bit. I actually prefer TW at this point, far closer to aosp, in most ways, cleaner.
of course there are sense "themes" for alternate launchers you could use, if you really needed it...
and with ICS around the corner, well we'll have CM9, AOKP, MIUI4... plenty of better options than Anything sense based.
and again, frankly, still like running stock ROMs on this phone. after all the crap I heard about how "bad" TW is/was, I expected to change it quick. but TBH I can't understand what they were talking about. clean. responsive, light on resources (compared to sense)... to each his own though, right?

alright thanks haha. its just after 2 years sense has kinda made a place for itself in my heart so idk haha. btw any news on the sgsIII? i heard a few rumors but figured this forum would know more about it like any news on a release date or a definite shape or look of the phone for sprint? don't want to buy a device and have it already be outdated like 2 months later haha

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don't want to buy a device and have it already be outdated like 2 months later haha
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LOL, i know what you mean. I gave up on that race. I ended up hesitating on everything, because of reading rumor of "the newest thing, right around the corner". I am just committed to buying a new device every year, find something awesome, run it into the ground. ;-)
and this phone is AWESOME. seriously. fast as ****, brilliant screen, SO much internal storage and RAM, I can't make this phone fail.

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LOL, i know what you mean. I gave up on that race. I ended up hesitating on everything, because of reading rumor of "the newest thing, right around the corner". I am just committed to buying a new device every year, find something awesome, run it into the ground. ;-)
and this phone is AWESOME. seriously. fast as ****, brilliant screen, SO much internal storage and RAM, I can't make this phone fail.
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haha alright. thanks for the info. if nothing else better comes out in a month, this is at the top of my list

There is usually never a point to wait but this time there is a case to wait. Sprint well be starting to sell lte phones around midyear that will support their new lte network. Being this close to that there is no reason to grab a Wimax phone.
Formerly Tuffgong4 on xda

m0ckery13 said:
There is usually never a point to wait but this time there is a case to wait. Sprint well be starting to sell lte phones around midyear that will support their new lte network. Being this close to that there is no reason to grab a Wimax phone.
Formerly Tuffgong4 on xda
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What he said. There ate a few nice phones on the horizon that should really compete with the E4GT, plus have LTE
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tbh i would wait for an lte phone at this point. this phone is 6 months old now and if the og evo is still kicking i would hold out for an lte one.

I would wait too if that evo is still good..
This phone is awesome but i would wait for an LTE phone.

I wouldn't wait for LTE, Sprint is having their own issues with the rollout which was expected to be limited coverage anyhow for the first 1-2 years. 4g might be spotty but in a good area its crazy fast and its my understanding that phones wont have both 4g/wimax and lte. This means that unless you are in a lte area your new lte phone will only really have 3g and wifi. Just get the best phone out when your contract is up. I got this phone last month and believe its the best phone out right now.

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I wouldn't wait for LTE, Sprint is having their own issues with the rollout which was expected to be limited coverage anyhow for the first 1-2 years. 4g might be spotty but in a good area its crazy fast and its my understanding that phones wont have both 4g/wimax and lte. This means that unless you are in a lte area your new lte phone will only really have 3g and wifi. Just get the best phone out when your contract is up. I got this phone last month and believe its the best phone out right now.
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Agree completely; there is no way there will be much Sprint LTE before the end of this year, and, then, it will only be in their major cities, if at all.
I would jump all over this phone ASAP, since its the best Android phone out there, bar none..and, if you look around, there are some good deals..

I'd save the upgrade and buy a gently used E4GT for $100 more. I realize there are places that offer the E4GT as an upgrade for less than $200, but that isn't an option for sero users like myself. Anyway lol, I've gone from the og Evo, to the 3vo, to the E4GT just a few days ago, and this thing is Big and Beautiful! I highly recommend switching
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PhxkinMassacre said:
so my upgrade is due in about a month for my og evo and was thinking about this phone because i played with it in a sprint store and really liked it except for the touchwiz part... so just wondering if there are any sense roms on this phone or if its even possible... i know there was one for the nexus s 4g. if not, no big deal because i'll probably be running ics anyway but just curious haha
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I came from the OG EVO 4G as well. A world of a difference and I love it! I hadn't been using Sense on my EVO for the last half a year cuz I've been using ADW anyway. There are so many good launchers out there and ICS is awesome in itself, I'm sure you won't miss Sense at all.
This phone is a ton faster than the EVO and the screen is amazing. My EVO would take a few minutes to fully start up, the S2 takes <30 sec. You will love it, I'm sure!
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+1 on buying privately instead of upgrading if possible...
In the past 4 months I have bought 3 S2's (one I just bought yesterday), all of them I paid $400 max for. And these phones were brand spanking new, still sealed in the box. If you look for a lightly used one, I'm sure you can get one for around the $300 range.
I had a fortunate situation though cuz my EVO broke on my, so Sprint replaced it with a new one. I sold that one on eBay for $260, so my out of pocket expense wasn't too bad. I love not being under contract, plus it leaves you the option should the Sprint network change and something totally awesome comes out and you wanna be locked in again.

Yo massacre id recommed the et4g i came from evo too lte is having so many issues rolling out on sprint who knows when it will be ready especially now that the fcc either has or is trying to block lightsquared for the gps interference issues which is gonna do some real damage to sprint both finacially and in their ability to obtain the hardware and support they are gonna need, and with wimax continuing to be supported atleast until 2015 if you are currently in a 4g area you will be able to use it til your up for an upgrade again vs you could wait for lte and it wont be available in your area right away or not at all if lte happens as planned right now it looks like anything other than test markets are being delayed for now
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I have been hearing that BS about 4G/LTE for 2 years now...when a customer asks me when it's coming I just state that I have no idea, best plce to stay current with all of that is www dot clear dot com and keep checking the coverage map in your area.

Clear doesn't do lte yet, atleast not in my area they are exclusively wimax here in the Tampa bay area
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I would wait for LTE too. I do second buying a used one but good luck finding an E4GT for $100, $200 is more likely. If you want Sense wait for a new HTC phone.
Sammys feel cheaper and are scratch magnets. Appearance wise, I think HTCs hold up better. I'm not a TW fan and I'm not Sense fan either. I like it simple and have used Launcherpro with Fancy Widgets for the sense style clock and the 5 day forecast. Been doing that for all my HTC, LG and Samsung phones. Since I'm now on a an ICS rom, I'm trying Nova Launcher.
The E4GT is the best phone I have owned but it is getting old and the new cycle bigger, badder and faster is about to start. Don't lock yourself into last year's phone with a wasted upgrade.

I would wait for LTE too. I do second buying a used one but good luck finding an E4GT for $100, $200 is more likely. If you want Sense wait for a new HTC phone.
Sammys feel cheaper and are scratch magnets. Appearance wise, I think HTCs hold up better. I'm not a TW fan and I'm not Sense fan either. I like it simple and have used Launcherpro with Fancy Widgets for the sense style clock and the 5 day forecast. Been doing that for all my HTC, LG and Samsung phones. Since I'm now on a an ICS rom, I'm trying Nova Launcher.
The E4GT is the best phone I have owned but it is getting old and the new cycle bigger, badder and faster is about to start. Don't lock yourself into last year's phone with a wasted upgrade.

Have I been taking crazy pills?

My contract is up in August and because sprint barely works where I now live, I will be jumping ship to verizon.
I have been planning on picking up the GSIII when I jump, but the last few days the Galaxy Nexus has been looking better and better.
I know that specs wise the GSIII blow the G'Nex out of the water but the dev community on the G'Nex looks pretty awesome and tehre are tons of people building 4.1 roms already.
Specs aren't everything and I know that *most* gnex owners are loving their phones but it's hard to pull the trigger on a phone that is already 8 months old.
Also, I would wait for the next Nexus phone but my girl's contract is up around the same time and we're gonna hop on a family plan. She has a awful Droid 2 and can't wait to get an iPhone. :-/

The only real downfall to the Nexus is no Gorilla Glass. It's only the scratch resistant so it you drop it it's most likely done for.
No GG would be a deal breaker IMO.

I would go with the GSIII, i was at the sprint store today and held the Galaxy Nexus(which I was sure I was switching to when I could) Next to the GSIII and the absolutely beautiful screen, the extraordinarily light weight, the melty buttery smoothness. The GNexus just couldn't compare. If you have to pick now I would go GSIII. IMO

well at the same time, if your going to verizon, there has been alot of news about verizon locking the sgsIII bootloader so no root. but that only matters if your wanting to root.
source #1:
droid-life
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but then that doesnt mean it wont, or hasnt been rooted. just means might be a little harder to do than with other carriers.
It would appear there is already a guide for rooting it, i didnt read it, but just something to consider...
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no you're not crazy for jumping ship, per se. If the phone service does not work where you're at most of the time, then what are you paying for?
As for phone choices, if you root, I think that takes some heavy consideration. Also, since the SG3 just came out, the community is still building. The Nexus has had about four month start. With all the major carriers taking SG3, it'll come. It'll just have Verzion's quirks.
I would also look at the long term. Assuming you go with the low price you can get, you're looking at phone you'll have to two years. Thus, which phone will be able to handle what you want to do now, and what you think you'll want it do in say, eighteen months. Thus, also specs are not everything, in the long term, they could be important. Developers will design with faster hardware in mind in the future. See the Evo 4g development versus newer phones such as Evo 3D or LTE.
Also, how dare you like the girlfriend go apple. Show her the true power of the greenside, LOL.

lovekeiiy said:
no you're not crazy for jumping ship, per se. If the phone service does not work where you're at most of the time, then what are you paying for?
As for phone choices, if you root, I think that takes some heavy consideration. Also, since the SG3 just came out, the community is still building. The Nexus has had about four month start. With all the major carriers taking SG3, it'll come. It'll just have Verzion's quirks.
I would also look at the long term. Assuming you go with the low price you can get, you're looking at phone you'll have to two years. Thus, which phone will be able to handle what you want to do now, and what you think you'll want it do in say, eighteen months. Thus, also specs are not everything, in the long term, they could be important. Developers will design with faster hardware in mind in the future. See the Evo 4g development versus newer phones such as Evo 3D or LTE.
Also, how dare you like the girlfriend go apple. Show her the true power of the greenside, LOL.
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Yea, the more I think about it the more I think that the GNex is the way to go. The GSIII has some great hardware specs and amazing software features but I know it's just a matter of time before I get bored with touchwiz and go AOSP.
Either way the phone will be rooted but I love the idea that I can almost instantly be on the cutting edge of android roms with the G'Nex. The hardware isn't a big deal. A nicer camera and screen would be great but then again, the camera and screen on my evo have been just fine for me for the last two years.
As for the girl, i tried...Not surprisingly, her crappy droid2 (purchased BEFORE we started dating...I would have never let her buy that ) started slowing to a crawl and getting AWFUL battery life so I backed it up, rooted (pain in the ass) and installed CM7 on it. She likes it but still wants an iPhone bc she's a nursing student and has all her medical dictionary's on her ipad and she can run them on an iphone at the hospital. Ah well, can't win them all

Just in case anyone is reading this...
Does anyone know if I can buy a used phone (thunderbolt or something like that), sign a new verizon contract and activate the phone and then get a discount on another phone down the line?
I'm having trouble pulling the trigger on the G'nex when I could wait a few months and potentially have my pick of a few different nexus devices.