I was just told Samsung is going to "turn off" the Note 7

I was just told Samsung is going to "turn off" the Note 7 - Note 7 Questions & Answers

In a chat with US Cellular I was just told "with the recall, it will not be able to stay on your account much longer, due at some point, Samsung will be turning off all the phones on all carriers."
I asked when but she said they do not know the date yet.
She also said I could re activate my Note 7 (which I didn't think was allowed) if the Note 5 I purchased online doesn't work properly.

It is inevitable.
They will try to get everyone to return or exchange their Note 7s first. And then this kill switch to reach out to those who has been living under a rock.
Unless you root the device and circumvent the kill switch.
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Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.

BozQ said:
My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
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I can understand that. That is until you start saying things like people "have a problem" and there is "something wrong" with people because they still have a note 7. Br0adband has said these things and worse.

Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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what is more laughable is that he has never owned one. From memory he had/has an S7E and was thinking about upgrading (before all the shxtstorm).
I am willing to suffer a phone sizzle if it means I get a few more weeks with this fantastic phone. I understand the risks, they are significantly low, but I also understand the impact of a total battery failure (running without the 256G SD card currently to avoid damage to it in the event of the phone internally melting).
I do not appreciate BrOadbands incessant drilling of existing N7 users, worse than a 19 year old cop doing the "respect my authority" thing.
Only 2 phones have cooked in Australia, from the original batch (1 was a forum member on Whirlpool forums, the other Samsung indicated when they were quoting numbers), we were getting the second batch a bit later than you guys in the US which may have meant slightly improved production process (made in Vietnam though, if that means anything).
I am however(unfortunately) getting this replaced, as I do fly and the American FAA getting a bit nervous and doing the banning meant globally all airlines followed not to mention that Samsung are giving some financial incentives that may not last forever to replace with S7E/S7 (got told almost 2 weeks ago now by a local Samsung phone rep "your S7E is coming within 21 days"...)
I think part of the product pull by Samsung was not about an inherent fault in all units, but some inevitable butt covering, since the product reputation was tainted, no way to recover from that, the phone would be impossible to sell with all the transportation bans, and how many different battery icon colours could they use to indicate if you owned a v1,2 or 3 lol.
I do believe it had a higher than normal failure rate though, esp in the US, my speculation is the soft construction of the battery was allowing it to get sufficiently distorted during assembly that some further condition was causing battery failure for those excessively distorted (such as plate to plate crystal growth).
Edit: look at this discussion about li-ion failure modes: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithium_failures.htm
Essentially, it says that the anode SEI layer can break down in as low temps as 80degC including from external heating. I know when we had that dodgy Ocululus update, my CPU when I checked was over 70degC and the whole phone was very warm due to very high current draw due to the max CPU load. So heat from both current draw from the battery, and external heat from the CPU getting toasty would not have helped any phone where the battery was also a little squashed/distorted when packed into the phone during assembly.
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NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8

ilordvader said:
NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
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Are you in the UK?

chrisnosleep said:
Are you in the UK?
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im in Dubai
Hope this Helps -
Is there a way to disable updates without root?

This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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CerveCesar said:
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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Would have preferred they nerfed the CPU instead. And disable fast charge and wireless charging. All to prevent it from generating too much heat. Limiting to 60% probably isn't going to help much.
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If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?

LightningJay said:
Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Sorry. I didn't.
It was powered off for a few days. And I just got my V20. Turned it on to get some files out but I was shocked to find my Note 7 shut off. And then it rebooted and update my unit. And as expected, it was the 60% battery update.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Was your Note rooted?
Thanks

evo4g63t said:
If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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If you paid any attention to the pictures we were shown about the burned out phones. There was a a complete burn out and the phones were destroyed. Not a single phone was just damaged a little and stopped working. That shows the battery had a complete or near complete charge.
The batteries burned out completely because of the amount of charge held into them. Not because of their chemical composition. If you know what I mean.
If you ever worked with batteries; You'll know they get very hot and can expand as they overcharge. Thus expansion plus the new sharp aluminum frame inside, may have been 1 of the reasons for ignition we believe.
Keeping your charge at 60/80% lowers the risk of ignition by a lot.
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I actually think BroadBand or whatever actually did post a receipt of the purchase, although everyone knows you can find that on the internet. The person is a far-left lib/progressive who thinks their safe spaces are in jeopardy because a phone (Iphone 7 anyone??) may catch fire.
Anyway, I seriously, seriously doubt they will disable the phone completely. You bought the phone, and it is your phone. If you choose to use another battery inside the note 7, then press on (I have heard reports of folks trying this...it worked, but not sure of the specifics. One guy cracked his screen trying to get the battery out).
Plus, it is an FCC violation to disrupt a communications device. You don't know the person's circumstances. They may live on the fringe of civilization and haven't heard the news or didn't get the push. The first person that is harmed because their working phone was disabled will lead to humongous lawsuits.
A Sprint employee in Newnan Georgia told my daughter that Samsung would be shutting off her phone, and it was against the law for her to keep using. They pressured her hard, made her cry (she's young, first time away from home) because she couldn't get in touch with me. She didn't know what to do because she didn't want to get "arrested," which was the implication they were trying to make. She ended up getting pressured in a S7 because she was afraid of getting in trouble (and she is super furious for getting duped). She wanted to keep the phone until the release of the s8. She was in the store to pay her bill and they saw the phone sticking out of her pocket.
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By the way, Samsung has publicly stated that less than half of the phones were returned. That indicates a million or so are still out there.
I promise you, PROMISE YOU, that the very FIRST Note7 to catch fire despite the recall (because not being returned), would be splattered over every news channel.
How many post-recall reports of exploding batteries have we seen??? As far as I can tell, ZERO!!!! Don't mean it won't happen, but I think the danger is over-blown. Samsung did it because of the media coverage. A single injury (if they had not recalled) given the history of the phone would have resulted in 10s of millions of dollars in damages via litigation.

BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st

ilordvader said:
Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)

BozQ said:
I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
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I got this Notification few days back
so seem all get the Software update at the same time

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Who manufactured our battery?

When Samsung announced the recall, they said it was a problem with some of the batteries from one manufacturer. So most of the phones are fine, but how to tell?
I looked for a setting or tool that would tell me who actually made the battery in my phone, but could not find one. Does anyone know of such an app or setting?
This was much easier when we had access to the battery compartment! Are you paying attention Samsung???

Unicorn512 said:
When Samsung announced the recall, they said it was a problem with some of the batteries from one manufacturer. So most of the phones are fine, but how to tell?
I looked for a setting or tool that would tell me who actually made the battery in my phone, but could not find one. Does anyone know of such an app or setting?
This was much easier when we had access to the battery compartment! Are you paying attention Samsung???
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I believe the Korean and Vietnamese ones are bad China ones are good only way to tell is to take phone apart.
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matsuyamakaze said:
I believe the Korean and Vietnamese ones are bad China ones are good only way to tell is to take phone apart.
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And since the average consumer cannot take apart the phone, there are two words that come to mind that summarize if we have the battery problem: Schrödinger's cat.

jak341 said:
And since the average consumer cannot take apart the phone, there are two words that come to mind that summarize if we have the battery problem: Schrödinger's cat.
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Darn that cat! I believe my phone is not one of the affected phones since it 1) hasn't exploded or caught fire 2) gets great battery life 3) seems to be running and charging without a hitch. I am just surprised that since the battery is such a key part of the deal that there isn't some way to tell, or some record from the manufacturing process, to know which batteries went into which phones. It's not like battery problems are unknown in the cellular phone world. And (just my luck) this the first cell phone I have ever owned that I couldn't easily remove the battery!
I supposed I will reluctantly have to make the exchange.
And there are going to be a LOT of "refurbished" Note 7's in the not too distant future.

Play it safe turn off the phone before bed stop charging it if hot don't charge without being with the device use the charger it came with. Run on sentence lol. Also have fun drowning it and going naked the phone not you...weirdo.
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Samsung halting Note7 production: They think it's all over? It is now!

https://goo.gl/OVRwDe
Samsung has reportedly halted production of the Galaxy Note 7 in association with China and US authorities after several replacement units caught on fire.
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I read this but you know, out of how many million phones have been sold only 8 phones have caught fire. This doesn't mean all Note 7's are bad. In a mass produced item there is some fallout. Now this is a doozie no doubt but at least give Samsung a chance to investigate. I have a Note 7 and absolutely love it. If I have to send it back I will. But I aint gonna go turning it in just yet. It would be different if there were hundreds catching fire. But only 8 out of how many.... This just my opinion though.
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As of now, it's a temporary stop. Not permanent.
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This stop is likely a temporary one for safety until they can investigate all the reports. That way if there IS still a fault they have limited output. If there ISN'T them they can just restart.
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*Hooligan* said:
I read this but you know, out of how many million phones have been sold only 8 phones have caught fire. This doesn't mean all Note 7's are bad. In a mass produced item there is some fallout. Now this is a doozie no doubt but at least give Samsung a chance to investigate. I have a Note 7 and absolutely love it. If I have to send it back I will. But I aint gonna go turning it in just yet. It would be different if there were hundreds catching fire. But only 8 out of how many.... This just my opinion though.
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8 over what time frame? Curious to see if they rolled the dice how many of these would flame out over two years. I bet enough it would shock most people.
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My phone has been running like a champ.
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2nd deja vu happening again , now they are dealing with ion batteries not other hardware or anything , dont think samsung wants a third one , one thing i dont understand is why would they recall the whole set rather then recall the battery

Ugh, how could there be a second issue.
Anyone want to guess at the second issue?
Phone too thin? Part poking the battery? Battery not actually fixed? Different battery issue? Bad batteries made it in? Chemistry wrong?

It's over. Production won't be started again, stopping production is a massive thing and Samsung obviously know they have a design fault . Samsung will cut its losses and scrap the Note 7 because the brand is now ruined and trust is lost. Very sad.

I think it's more An economic decision. Until they are sure there's no problem, why continue production?

koppee1 said:
I think it's more An economic decision. Until they are sure there's no problem, why continue production?
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If they were confident in their engineering and knew there was no problem they wouldn't stop. They obviously think there is a problem and are winding down. Theyre not going to say straight away there's a fault and "recall", it'll be "were looking into it". The phone is done for.

dottat said:
8 over what time frame? Curious to see if they rolled the dice how many of these would flame out over two years. I bet enough it would shock most people.
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I'm just gonna wait and see what the say before I turn mine in. I can always go back to my N4 if need be. Dunno on your question, good point too and what plant they can be tracked to.. If they have multiple plants.
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https://goo.gl/OVRwDe
Samsung has reportedly halted production of the Galaxy Note 7 in association with China and US authorities after several replacement units caught on fire.
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I really love N7 in term of hardware and what Samsung has done to the Note series to make it what it is today minus the problematic battery. Really hope they can bounce back for the N8. Shame that this may be the end of N7. With it, I do not know if there is a point of keeping the phone since halting production can also mean slow and can possibly stop software supports??!?!?

I'm just curious why there are no such cases in the rest of the world???it seems only in the US and in Taiwan ??
yes that's right

What ever is going on media is slowly killing the device... even me that loved and wanted this phone for ages are starting to wonder. I still doubt that any of new events are true but company like T-mobile with Apple help are killing this device. They don't need any proof they will be always able to fake an accident and this will be always a hit to Samsung... The best phone in world and with such problem it starts to become the worst... Who knows what will happen I'am still waiting for mine. Ordered on AUG17 and now should get it on OCT17 but this can always change. It's so SAD because with this N7 Samsung would 100% killed Apple and would have a more solid ground next year.

No explosion in EU, yet. Only in USA and Korea. Strange

mk89pwnz said:
What ever is going on media is slowly killing the device... even me that loved and wanted this phone for ages are starting to wonder. I still doubt that any of new events are true but company like T-mobile with Apple help are killing this device. They don't need any proof they will be always able to fake an accident and this will be always a hit to Samsung...
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This. If anything the last couple of weeks made me hate the media even more (if that's possible). Hate is a strong word but there's something fundamentally wrong in our society with the way news are transported. Most of these articles are so phony it screams staging.

Nobody knows the true extent of the numbers. Only Samsung and it's not going to ever reveal the true figures. Even if it says it has. However aggressive anyone feels about the news coverage, certain sites have done a lot to verify their sources. Problem is a large company like Samsung cannot move as fast, plus investigating all the issues is not a quick process.
Regardless of the above paragraph , Samsung would not have done the first recall, now be stopping production temporarily if there wasn't a real issue.
I do wonder why there have been no reports in the EU too. It could mean there haven't been any, and or Samsung silenced any that had arisen. Don't forget not everyone wants to take a photo and upload to social media.

pietroSV said:
No explosion in EU, yet. Only in USA and Korea. Strange
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We have 230V with a fixed 'zero' and only Exynos models. Perhaps that has something to do with regards to the quickcharging? But only a few phones are delivered here.
I think the 'refurbished' phones after the recall are actually regular production line phones, but X-rayed, updated and repackaged. If the X-ray showed nothing, I think you could still have a gen1 phone that is now bursting into flames. I don't think they will go through the trouble of opening up 2,5m phones and replace the batteries. That is more labour and time intensive than to bring out new units for about $200-250 worth of materials.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/09/sams...ended-production-of-galaxy-note-7-report.html
Full statement is they are adjusting the supply to the demand. US customers which is probably their biggest base, don't want the phone anymore.

So what will Samsung do with 5 million recalled devices?

Ship them to North Korea?

ekerbuddyeker said:
Ship them to North Korea?
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Drop them on North Korea you meant
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Burn them
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Use them to fight isis

They will just reuse parts in S8

mk89pwnz said:
They will just reuse parts in S8
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hmmm possibility is there .

You know what. They had a chance to fix this. Now they screwed over their most faithful customers the SECOND time. Causing most of us expences for accessories etc we are likely never to get back. Causing us anxiety keeping us in the dark. As far as I am concerned, the company can die. It is one thing to mess up once. No, they did it TWICE. I am so mad right now.

Or make that ~6" Note that was looming and tested. Perhaps the battery was designed for the flat version and got too crammed in the edged version.

notefreak said:
You know what. They had a chance to fix this. Now they screwed over their most faithful customers the SECOND time. Causing most of us expences for accessories etc we are likely never to get back. Causing us anxiety keeping us in the dark. As far as I am concerned, the company can die. It is one thing to mess up once. No, they did it TWICE. I am so mad right now.
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We all are... And the frustrating part is that there is no other phone that would even compare to Note 7... maybe S7E but it must to receive Grace UI fast. But still the body of N7 will be only awailable with S8 and maybe we will get a 4000 battery and a 6GB of RAM. But to wait for like 5 month nahh...

I would buy a Note 7 that is recalled, as long as it wasn't getting hot through use and charging. I'd buy one for about $400. But not more. I don't have more than $400 to burn.

Sell them to Weber?

You can expect an update disabling these phones and an IMEI block.

notefreak said:
You know what. They had a chance to fix this. Now they screwed over their most faithful customers the SECOND time. Causing most of us expences for accessories etc we are likely never to get back. Causing us anxiety keeping us in the dark. As far as I am concerned, the company can die. It is one thing to mess up once. No, they did it TWICE. I am so mad right now.
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I can certainly see why you feel this way. My wife and I got 3 different Samsung covers (flip cover, LED and the see-through) and a variety of leather cases and screen protectors. I'd be surprised if I get the money back I spend on that. And what to think of the vendors who produced these, and likely have lots in stock... Ugh, I'd hate to be on that end. It's seriously frustrating indeed... I guess I'm glad I still have my Note 4, most likely I'll go back to that until there's something comparable
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You can expect an update disabling these phones and an IMEI block.
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They better give people time to make necessary backups and whatnot, or I expect several class action lawsuits... they may already happen anyways, who knows.

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You can expect an update disabling these phones and an IMEI block.
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totally inaccurate. IMEI blocking is done strictly through carriers. Since Samsung has no idea what phones are used on what carriers, they cannot block IMEI numbers.

If they dropped all Note 7s to the North, will they consider it an Act of War?
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You would think instead of completely scraping all the devices they made they would look at modifying and reselling the devices.
Maybe ....
Replace the non removable battery with a removable battery.

AstroDigital said:
You would think instead of completely scraping all the devices they made they would look at modifying and reselling the devices.
Maybe ....
Replace the non removable battery with a removable battery.
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Or offer a mains-powered upgrade? So you have to plug it in to use it?

Some questions on the Note 7 Recall Saga

Hi,
I am the owner of Note 7 (replaced to the Green battery) , I had no issue with the phone (both the initial one and the replaced one). It is actually the 'coolest' (temperature wise ) phone that I had.
Reading all the information that circulated in the past weeks related to this saga of the Note 7, some questions came to my mind:
- Isn’t it strange that, after the recall has been declared, no more Note 7 ‘exploded’???
- Do you really believe that everybody switched off the phone immediately and is calmly waiting to ship the phone back?
- How come no phone ‘exploded’ in any dealer’s warehouse?
- Don't know of any case of phone going in flames in Canada, Europe, Middle East (are these ones 'special' in any way?)???
- Of all the returned phones, even if the carriers had a lot of concerns, was any single case of a device which caught fire?
- How come Samsung is not able to replicate the conditions so one phone will blow, even if they assigned hundreds of engineers? Why don't they seek help from a specialized company/agency in order to determine the causes?
- Is it Samsung ready to scrap all the R&D invested in the design of the most feature rich phone on the market? Why aren't they taking the time (even few months) to make sure they get it right and come back with something aka Note 7s, just in time for the end of year season?
- Aren't all these 'better safe than sorry', 'don't take any risk', etc. a bit over inflated by the media? Is this the biggest risk we take daily in our lives?
Please try to comment on these concerns and try to raise other reasonable questions

You talk about second recall in the first question...and yes it's very strange.
Second: in a video it's showing a gap between glass and metal . Haw hard could it be to insert something small and make a hole into the battery....and make it burn?
Now comes my question: I haven't seen no one video with burning note to show a minute or two BEFORE ignition. Every video shows only after or while it't burning. I must say that samsung now could be in front of a great attack from others...
P.S. I still think that N7 IS the best phone money can buy at the moment and I was PRO for a second excange. Anyway I will buy Note 8 on preorder next year.
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MariusB said:
Hi,
I am the owner of Note 7 (replaced to the Green battery) , I had no issue with the phone (both the initial one and the replaced one). It is actually the 'coolest' (temperature wise ) phone that I had.
Reading all the information that circulated in the past weeks related to this saga of the Note 7, some questions came to my mind:
- Isn’t it strange that, after the recall has been declared, no more Note 7 ‘exploded’???
- Do you really believe that everybody switched off the phone immediately and is calmly waiting to ship the phone back?
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Which recall? The 2nd from Samsung or the 2nd from the CPSC? The CPSC says there have been 23 fires on the new phones. So obviously we're not hearing about all of them in the press.
- How come no phone ‘exploded’ in any dealer’s warehouse?
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Because they are powered off.
- Don't know of any case of phone going in flames in Canada, Europe, Middle East (are these ones 'special' in any way?)???
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Not sure if there has not been any cases, but there is some speculation it may be a difference in the processor.
- Of all the returned phones, even if the carriers had a lot of concerns, was any single case of a device which caught fire?
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Again, they are powered off.
- How come Samsung is not able to replicate the conditions so one phone will blow, even if they assigned hundreds of engineers? Why don't they seek help from a specialized company/agency in order to determine the causes?
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You are assuming they have not replicated it in a lab. Hard to say if that assumption is correct or not.
- Is it Samsung ready to scrap all the R&D invested in the design of the most feature rich phone on the market? Why aren't they taking the time (even few months) to make sure they get it right and come back with something aka Note 7s, just in time for the end of year season?
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I'm sure most of us would love to see that happen.
- Aren't all these 'better safe than sorry', 'don't take any risk', etc. a bit over inflated by the media? Is this the biggest risk we take daily in our lives?
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We get it, you like the phone and don't want to get rid of it. But this is an unnecessary risk. I guess if you live alone in a detached single family dwelling, the only risk you're taking is your own well being. But the phone is not going to be supported, and will likely be shut off in one way or another.
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calinormy said:
You talk about second recall in the first question...and yes it's very strange.
Second: in a video it's showing a gap between glass and metal . Haw hard could it be to insert something small and make a hole into the battery....and make it burn?
Now comes my question: I haven't seen no one video with burning note to show a minute or two BEFORE ignition. Every video shows only after or while it't burning. I must say that samsung now could be in front of a great attack from others...
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A video before ignition? Do you have a video camera trained on your phone 24x7? Actually, that'd be kind of suspicious if someone were videoing their phone just prior to it melting.
Sorry, I'm not buying into any grand conspiracy theory on this one. Something was not designed right, and Samsung (and us Note lovers) are paying the price. Simple as that.

I think samsung should and will find the actual issue soon enough, don't think they'd move further without knowing for sure what happened. That said, chances are it'll still be too late for note7, unless, hopefully, they find out there was never an issue to begin with or if the solution is completely software and able to implement it in time.
Let's use the 'explosive' words more careful than the media. There was never an actual explosion (which denotes a violent reaction associated with a shock wave) unless I have missed such event.
This defect probability appears to be quite low. That would explain why Canadian or European market, much smaller, didn't account in burning reportings yet.
Finally, I was reading thru the note's manual the other day. It is clear that it's expected from the owner a decent amount of care in using the device as, for instance, it states, amongst other things, that one should not wear it in his back pocket or sit on it to avoid it catching fire.
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its a dead story now, the media crapple fans have won. they have single handily destroyed the best phone ever created/produced. with apple falling and the public hoping to cash in. it was a perfect storm, a **** storm at that! i traded my safe note 7s in on monday, it was becoming obvious this was not going to go away. i hated to do it, and will be first in line next year for the note 8, or whatever it may be called

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Which recall? The 2nd from Samsung or the 2nd from the CPSC? The CPSC says there have been 23 fires on the new phones. So obviously we're not hearing about all of them in the press.
Because they are powered off.
Not sure if there has not been any cases, but there is some speculation it may be a difference in the processor.
Again, they are powered off.
You are assuming they have not replicated it in a lab. Hard to say if that assumption is correct or not.
I'm sure most of us would love to see that happen.
We get it, you like the phone and don't want to get rid of it. But this is an unnecessary risk. I guess if you live alone in a detached single family dwelling, the only risk you're taking is your own well being. But the phone is not going to be supported, and will likely be shut off in one way or another.
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A video before ignition? Do you have a video camera trained on your phone 24x7? Actually, that'd be kind of suspicious if someone were videoing their phone just prior to it melting.
Sorry, I'm not buying into any grand conspiracy theory on this one. Something was not designed right, and Samsung (and us Note lovers) are paying the price. Simple as that.
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Powering them down doesn't prevent them from catching fire.

I saw a video from surveilence camera. I think was the last one from two days ago inside someone's hause/ room. I can understand that no one is recording 24/24 but at least in this case I am wright.
I think, for all of us with trust in Note brand that we should open an worlwide petition to samsung and ask to continue Note line next year.
If someone could make that I'
jejb said:
Which recall? The 2nd from Samsung or the 2nd from the CPSC? The CPSC says there have been 23 fires on the new phones. So obviously we're not hearing about all of them in the press.
Because they are powered off.
Not sure if there has not been any cases, but there is some speculation it may be a difference in the processor.
Again, they are powered off.
You are assuming they have not replicated it in a lab. Hard to say if that assumption is correct or not.
I'm sure most of us would love to see that happen.
We get it, you like the phone and don't want to get rid of it. But this is an unnecessary risk. I guess if you live alone in a detached single family dwelling, the only risk you're taking is your own well being. But the phone is not going to be supported, and will likely be shut off in one way or another.
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A video before ignition? Do you have a video camera trained on your phone 24x7? Actually, that'd be kind of suspicious if someone were videoing their phone just prior to it melting.
Sorry, I'm not buying into any grand conspiracy theory on this one. Something was not designed right, and Samsung (and us Note lovers) are paying the price. Simple as that.
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jejb said:
Which recall? The 2nd from Samsung or the 2nd from the CPSC? The CPSC says there have been 23 fires on the new phones. So obviously we're not hearing about all of them in the press.
Because they are powered off.
Not sure if there has not been any cases, but there is some speculation it may be a difference in the processor.
Again, they are powered off.
You are assuming they have not replicated it in a lab. Hard to say if that assumption is correct or not.
I'm sure most of us would love to see that happen.
We get it, you like the phone and don't want to get rid of it. But this is an unnecessary risk. I guess if you live alone in a detached single family dwelling, the only risk you're taking is your own well being. But the phone is not going to be supported, and will likely be shut off in one way or another.
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A video before ignition? Do you have a video camera trained on your phone 24x7? Actually, that'd be kind of suspicious if someone were videoing their phone just prior to it melting.
Sorry, I'm not buying into any grand conspiracy theory on this one. Something was not designed right, and Samsung (and us Note lovers) are paying the price. Simple as that.
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If, being powered off and not charging is not making them to 'explode' (they all like the word explode, even if it is nothing like this...), why all the shipping companies are making such a big deal in not accepting to ship back the returns (powered off and in no way connected to chargers)?
How come, no unit which was on display in the showrooms, always connected to charging and handled by hundreds of people in all the possible ways, was not 'exploding'? This is real 'luck' for Samsung...

calinormy said:
I saw a video from surveilence camera. I think was the last one from two days ago inside someone's hause/ room. I can understand that no one is recording 24/24 but at least in this case I am wright.
I think, for all of us with trust in Note brand that we should open an worlwide petition to samsung and ask to continue Note line next year.
If someone could make that I'
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Here's the funny thing. the video from the surveillance camera...... YOU DONT SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE WOMANS HAND.

azzicles said:
Powering them down doesn't prevent them from catching fire.
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Is there a case of one going up in smoke that was fully powered off? If so, I retract my comments, but would like a link to that information before doing so. The ones I've heard of were all powered on at the time.

23 cases reported to the cpsc since Sept 15. They are happening...it's just that not everyone instantly calls the verge.
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My guess is that those devices could have a faulty battery protection circuit that is attached straight to the battery(inside battery case). Those usually make the lithium batteries go boom when You mess with them. Although I tried shorting out this circuit once and all what happened was pretty much a discharged battery to 0% within a second and it wouldn't charge.
But. In case of those Note 7 explosions I think that this circuit gets waaay too hot and the electrolyte inside the battery is starting to boil and a chemical reaction goes off and BOOM!
Now time for the conspiracy theory with facts
Apple. That is the answer! Apple hired a group of people all around the USA to somehow burn their phones and to make sure that it will look like the battery exploded(hair dryer to the back of the phone?)
News say that most Note 7s are exploding in USA. And this way people would start hating Samsung because their phones aren't safe. And would buy iPhones! Well.. they failed. News report that most people after leaving Note 7 go for S7 Edge.
What do You guys think? Both about the realistic theory and the conspiracy theory?

https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

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https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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That's a very reasonable petition and I thought for a moment about signing it.
However, I decided not to, and I'll explain why: Clearly the Note 7 has some safety issues and although we might debate how much of a risk it is, the fact remains that too many have been catching fire and this should not be happening in a properly designed and manufactured device. That being the case, it is unavoidable that Samsung had to stop selling them, especially if it could not be 100% certain what the cause of the fires has been.
Under these circumstances, I think it is fantasy to imagine that Samsung is going to dedicate development resources onto a withdrawn phone with a VERY limited user base. Asking for Nougat is a complete waste of time: it simply is NOT going to happen, ever. Since we can expect ZERO updates, then whether we like it or not, the phone is effectively finished. You'd be mad to plan on keeping long term an expensive product that will get no security or other updates ever.
What I *would* petition for is for Samsung to release a Note 7 mk II at the soonest opportunity. The Note 7 mk II would be a Note 7, identical in every respect except for the overheating problem fixed. I'd switch to one of those in a heartbeat.
Unfortunately, I don't think Samsung are going to do that. I think they want to ditch the Note 7 entirely, because of the bad publicity. And I don't think we will see a new S-pen Samsung untll fall 2017, and it won't be called a Note. I think this is a shame.

General Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 faulty

I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.

neilfer said:
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
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You didn't turn the sensor off in developer options did you? This will make the big screen unresponsive and stay off when you open it

neilfer said:
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
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Did you try a factory data reset?

lawtq
I have never been in the developer options so it cant be that.
Mr. Orange 645
A factory data reset didnt fix the problem.

neilfer said:
lawtq
I have never been in the developer options so it cant be that.
Mr. Orange 645
A factory data reset didnt fix the problem.
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Damn. Sounds like a real hardware problem. Hope the new one is flawless

A mates fold was shipped without download mode - really odd fault

Meh, the fail is strong with Samsung this year.
At least hold off a bit if you want this phone; let others take the ride before you decide.
Latter production runs might also have issues fixed by then.
Issues with the S21U are also cropping up.

lawtq said:
Damn. Sounds like a real hardware problem. Hope the new one is flawless
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I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.

neilfer said:
I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
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LMFAO. You act like every phone has this issue. Sounds like you just don't really want it.

bs3pro said:
LMFAO. You act like every phone has this issue. Sounds like you just don't really want it.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.

neilfer said:
That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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I think the probability of getting two Folds in a row with defective screens is very low. You'll be fine.

bryanhayn said:
I think the probability of getting two Folds in a row with defective screens is very low. You'll be fine.
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Maybe not. Samsung's been imploding across the board this year. With their apps and multiple device hardware failures. No joke. Multiple threads on XDA of issues and phone returns.
Just had a Wearables update puke all over me last night. It has defied a solution so far and the Buds+ only work right on phone calls.
Never saw that before.
Samsung's Good Lock app homepage graphics look horrible now too with little critters jumping around.
The Fail is strong with Samsung... now.

neilfer said:
That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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If you really want it, then do the warranty exchange and get a new one. No product line is 100% perfect. There will always be defective units. But that doesn't mean every single device will fail within two weeks. That's the most asinine thing I've heard all day.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
If you really want it, then do the warranty exchange and get a new one. No product line is 100% perfect. There will always be defective units. But that doesn't mean every single device will fail within two weeks. That's the most asinine thing I've heard all day.
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The best possible failure scenario is that a device does it within its return window.
So the OP was lucky in that respect.
I be pi$$ed too for all that trouble.
Meh... once bitten, twice shy.

If you preordered, Samsung included Care+ for 1 year for free. Not sure if this is offered outside of the US. It's really a great device kind of a game changer for me.

blackhawk said:
Maybe not. Samsung's been imploding across the board this year. With their apps and multiple device hardware failures. No joke. Multiple threads on XDA of issues and phone returns.
Just had a Wearables update puke all over me last night. It has defied a solution so far and the Buds+ only work right on phone calls.
Never saw that before.
Samsung's Good Lock app homepage graphics look horrible now too with little critters jumping around.
The Fail is strong with Samsung... now.
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Samsung isn't imploding. Realize that they sell tens of millions of devices and a small minority of people who purchase their products are here complaining about things on XDA. There is no widespread news coverage of Samsung making faulty devices, well, not since the Note 7. Your post is an exaggeration.

neilfer said:
That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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What he is trying to say is everyone phone ever released had failures in the 1st few weeks. Its not abnormal and why they have a warranty.

Semantics said:
Samsung isn't imploding. Realize that they sell tens of millions of devices and a small minority of people who purchase their products are here complaining about things on XDA. There is no widespread news coverage of Samsung making faulty devices, well, not since the Note 7. Your post is an exaggeration.
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Time will tell
Just order my second new 10+.
I don't share your optimism or wuv of storage deficient devices.
My first 10+ still looks, runs like it's new, fast, stable and fulfilling it's mission with 1tb of storage, soon to be expanded to 1.5tb.
I rejected the Note 20U because of poorer run time, Adroid 10, poorer color rendering and unreasonable price. Not enough bang for the buck.
So imagine what I think about every release from Samsung since then... and I'm not near as kind as you.
2021 is already a dead year for Sammy

neilfer said:
I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
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That's a good choice... Look for golden reviewer on YouTube and you'll see that this phone while it has Snapdragon 888 performs even worse than 855/865 phones lmao.
It throttles so hard that on games that other phones run at 90fps+ it scores 30 FPS sustained with dips below 10 FPS lmao ( pubg and genshin )
It's a shet performer, buy yourself a better device

Rstment ^m^ said:
That's a good choice... Look for golden reviewer on YouTube and you'll see that this phone while it has Snapdragon 888 performs even worse than 855/865 phones lmao.
It throttles so hard that on games that other phones run at 90fps+ it scores 30 FPS sustained with dips below 10 FPS lmao ( pubg and genshin )
It's a shet performer, buy yourself a better device
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There's literally a setting to make it run at max capability. From factory it doesn't run at max. You just flip the setting and it will run at max. They did it to preserve battery. Because realistically only games will utilize the entire power of an 888.
Phone cpus are progressing faster than use case. Oneplus just got in a debacle about this, mainly because they did it without giving you the ability to stop the throttling.

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