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Samsung halting Note7 production: They think it's all over? It is now!

https://goo.gl/OVRwDe
Samsung has reportedly halted production of the Galaxy Note 7 in association with China and US authorities after several replacement units caught on fire.
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I read this but you know, out of how many million phones have been sold only 8 phones have caught fire. This doesn't mean all Note 7's are bad. In a mass produced item there is some fallout. Now this is a doozie no doubt but at least give Samsung a chance to investigate. I have a Note 7 and absolutely love it. If I have to send it back I will. But I aint gonna go turning it in just yet. It would be different if there were hundreds catching fire. But only 8 out of how many.... This just my opinion though.
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As of now, it's a temporary stop. Not permanent.
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This stop is likely a temporary one for safety until they can investigate all the reports. That way if there IS still a fault they have limited output. If there ISN'T them they can just restart.
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*Hooligan* said:
I read this but you know, out of how many million phones have been sold only 8 phones have caught fire. This doesn't mean all Note 7's are bad. In a mass produced item there is some fallout. Now this is a doozie no doubt but at least give Samsung a chance to investigate. I have a Note 7 and absolutely love it. If I have to send it back I will. But I aint gonna go turning it in just yet. It would be different if there were hundreds catching fire. But only 8 out of how many.... This just my opinion though.
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8 over what time frame? Curious to see if they rolled the dice how many of these would flame out over two years. I bet enough it would shock most people.
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My phone has been running like a champ.
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2nd deja vu happening again , now they are dealing with ion batteries not other hardware or anything , dont think samsung wants a third one , one thing i dont understand is why would they recall the whole set rather then recall the battery

Ugh, how could there be a second issue.
Anyone want to guess at the second issue?
Phone too thin? Part poking the battery? Battery not actually fixed? Different battery issue? Bad batteries made it in? Chemistry wrong?

It's over. Production won't be started again, stopping production is a massive thing and Samsung obviously know they have a design fault . Samsung will cut its losses and scrap the Note 7 because the brand is now ruined and trust is lost. Very sad.

I think it's more An economic decision. Until they are sure there's no problem, why continue production?

koppee1 said:
I think it's more An economic decision. Until they are sure there's no problem, why continue production?
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If they were confident in their engineering and knew there was no problem they wouldn't stop. They obviously think there is a problem and are winding down. Theyre not going to say straight away there's a fault and "recall", it'll be "were looking into it". The phone is done for.

dottat said:
8 over what time frame? Curious to see if they rolled the dice how many of these would flame out over two years. I bet enough it would shock most people.
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I'm just gonna wait and see what the say before I turn mine in. I can always go back to my N4 if need be. Dunno on your question, good point too and what plant they can be tracked to.. If they have multiple plants.
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https://goo.gl/OVRwDe
Samsung has reportedly halted production of the Galaxy Note 7 in association with China and US authorities after several replacement units caught on fire.
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I really love N7 in term of hardware and what Samsung has done to the Note series to make it what it is today minus the problematic battery. Really hope they can bounce back for the N8. Shame that this may be the end of N7. With it, I do not know if there is a point of keeping the phone since halting production can also mean slow and can possibly stop software supports??!?!?

I'm just curious why there are no such cases in the rest of the world???it seems only in the US and in Taiwan ??
yes that's right

What ever is going on media is slowly killing the device... even me that loved and wanted this phone for ages are starting to wonder. I still doubt that any of new events are true but company like T-mobile with Apple help are killing this device. They don't need any proof they will be always able to fake an accident and this will be always a hit to Samsung... The best phone in world and with such problem it starts to become the worst... Who knows what will happen I'am still waiting for mine. Ordered on AUG17 and now should get it on OCT17 but this can always change. It's so SAD because with this N7 Samsung would 100% killed Apple and would have a more solid ground next year.

No explosion in EU, yet. Only in USA and Korea. Strange

mk89pwnz said:
What ever is going on media is slowly killing the device... even me that loved and wanted this phone for ages are starting to wonder. I still doubt that any of new events are true but company like T-mobile with Apple help are killing this device. They don't need any proof they will be always able to fake an accident and this will be always a hit to Samsung...
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This. If anything the last couple of weeks made me hate the media even more (if that's possible). Hate is a strong word but there's something fundamentally wrong in our society with the way news are transported. Most of these articles are so phony it screams staging.

Nobody knows the true extent of the numbers. Only Samsung and it's not going to ever reveal the true figures. Even if it says it has. However aggressive anyone feels about the news coverage, certain sites have done a lot to verify their sources. Problem is a large company like Samsung cannot move as fast, plus investigating all the issues is not a quick process.
Regardless of the above paragraph , Samsung would not have done the first recall, now be stopping production temporarily if there wasn't a real issue.
I do wonder why there have been no reports in the EU too. It could mean there haven't been any, and or Samsung silenced any that had arisen. Don't forget not everyone wants to take a photo and upload to social media.

pietroSV said:
No explosion in EU, yet. Only in USA and Korea. Strange
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We have 230V with a fixed 'zero' and only Exynos models. Perhaps that has something to do with regards to the quickcharging? But only a few phones are delivered here.
I think the 'refurbished' phones after the recall are actually regular production line phones, but X-rayed, updated and repackaged. If the X-ray showed nothing, I think you could still have a gen1 phone that is now bursting into flames. I don't think they will go through the trouble of opening up 2,5m phones and replace the batteries. That is more labour and time intensive than to bring out new units for about $200-250 worth of materials.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/09/sams...ended-production-of-galaxy-note-7-report.html
Full statement is they are adjusting the supply to the demand. US customers which is probably their biggest base, don't want the phone anymore.

Insider News from Samsung Korea internal situation...

Source: Korea Samsung Headquarters clerk (from my country) sharing with his friend.
Reporting:
- Several High positioned personal resignations.
- The Firm stands strong and united, instead of despairing over the situation.
- Samsung's Engineers are working overtime over a new technology that will revolutionize the smartphone market. Priorly, this technology was supposed to be targeted for the following years. But after the Note 7 disaster, they decided to push it for the next Smartphone release.
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Opinion: Sounds legit. Just wanted to share the news. Nothing official of course.

I guess these "high positioned personnel" are the ones who pushed for batteries to be made by Samsung SDI. What makes it even more disappointing is, the replacement units are still SDI batteries. While we've heard nothing from the China region units with ATL batteries.
Samsung should shut their factory down and just stick with the winning formula.
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Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.

B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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Agreed.
Instead they should solidify their present technology like avoiding explosions...

B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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How do you know this? You don't. We don't know the cause yet.

Well! Tell them to fu** ing explain to us what was it they messed up so bad to infringe our personal property, safety and make us a ton of expences we will never get back!! Tell them they should be convincingnus they are not incompetent to make electronisc anymore in the first place!!

Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
I have turned fast charging off via the cable and wireless. I have zero over heating problems, zero lag issues, phone is acting like a phone. the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc.... That is the hard part. I will probably turn my Note 3 into my travel device for music and games and such. Like a glorified Android iPod touch. Ill just turn disable to mobile data and phone stuff, hide the sim card removed icon.
A lot of work still. Damnit Samsung.....

My note 7's (both the original and the replacement) have worked basically perfectly. They don't overheat, don't lag, really not a single problem. The Note 7 is by far the best overall smartphone made to date. Best display, best display to overall size ratio, best camera, waterproof, etc. Only two issues I would say are the edge display which makes a tempered screen protector impossible and a so-so external speaker. And of course the kicker - the non-removable battery. Had they just made it with a removable battery this issue would have not been a phone-killer. It is sad that the best phone ever made to date is killed off like this. And we still have no definitive answer to what is the problem? Seems incomprehensible.

htusa said:
Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
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That sounds like speculation. These devices have been melting without being charged. We don't even know if Samsung knows what the actual problem is. Hopefully it all comes out so we get some reassurance about their next phones.

I read a lil bit ago that they didn't know what the actual problem was which is why they decided to kill it. They had over 100 people testing them round the clock and could not duplicate the issue of causing one to smoke/catch fire... of course though they were an anonymous
person close to the situation.
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"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.

Itchiee said:
"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

htusa said:
the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc
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Look, I get it, I want to keep my phone as well, and I am not sure what I will do. But to fly with it, while you base the rest on rumors, is plain irresponsible. What you do at home is your business, but getting on a plane with several hundred passengers and a possibly defective phone isn't (there's literally no way for you to tell whether your phone is safe or not). Samsung did after all improve the replacements as they are reportedly catching fire without being charged.

Who's getting rid of the note 7?

Just wondering who here is keeping the note 7 and taking the risk of it exploding? I'm happy to keep mine though little annoyed that they've stopped gear VR support and I'm 80% certain Samsung will eventually force us all to return the note 7 by maybe a software update that renders the phone useless.
I honestly have no idea what phone I'd get, I had the S7 edge as a temporary replacement phone while the recall was going on and it didn't feel as good as the note 7, the software wasn't as good and I missed the little features like the swipe gesture in the camera app for example. I still have my note 4 but it uses a different sim card so will have to get an adaptor but even then the note 4 seems really out dated in comparison but I get to keep the S-pen which is the biggest reason I got a note device in the first place. I also have a gear s2 smart watch and while it should work with other android phones it's just works better with a Samsung phone. I hope Samsung do something quick maybe release a note 8 and replace the note 7s with it lol there's just no alternatives.
What are you doing with your note 7?

Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).

mikesaa309 said:
What are you doing with your note 7?
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Hanging on to it for as long as I possibly can. If the deadline for a replacement or refund is midnight on 31st December, I'll hand it in on 31st December.

Is a p**s take though like what about people who've brought cases for the note 7 and other accessories? I purchased my gear vr from ebay for £80 as the seller had it with the note 7 but didn't want it and I couldn't seem to find it anywhere online or in shops probably due to the recall. I had the S7 edge at the time so could still use it but now they've cut off note 7 support so I no longer can use my gear VR so I'd at least like to know exactly what's going on so I can possibly see about selling it. Add on top the money I've spent on apps which I can no long use on the gear VR it's just ridiculous. I personally wouldn't mind waiting through another recall as long as I get to keep and use the note 7 I have then just swap it for a new and hopefully completely safe note 7 but looks like the note 7 is done for.

I'm keeping mine. I will treasure it even more now knowing once it's gone, it's gone forever. Now I need to figure out a way getting rid of the 60% charging cap. I love this phone so much!

jak341 said:
Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.

If I change the build.prop file, do you reckon I can trick the oculus app into thinking it's an S7 edge not a note 7?? I used it on the gear vr before the update and it seemed to work okay without getting stupidly hot even had it on charge lol.

The phones I want aren't out yet... Hoping final refund instructions come out in time to pre order the v20.. or maybe the pixel . I'm in the Philippines... Don't know how I can order the pixel lol

juliend said:
VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
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If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.

TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?

androidcentralsucks said:
TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.

jak341 said:
If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).

Time to cut loses. Thats what samsung did. The phone hase become a liability. Get your money back if you can.

juliend said:
Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
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Why don't you just use it? Seriously there's been like 8 with problems out of what, 2 million, 3 million? Seriously you have more chance of being run over than having a problem with the device.
The thing with statistics is they can be unintuitive and lead to strange conclusions. Let's say one phone in every 500,000 is going to develop a fault and catch fire. From Samsung's perspective, that means they can be certain they will have lots of unhappy customers, potential lawsuits and bad publicity and therefore it's a bit of a no-brainer to stop selling it.
But from your perspective, you have a 500,000:1 on chance that your phone will have no problems. And in the remotely unlikely event that it does, how likely is it to kill you, burn your house down or anything like that. Even less likely. There are ZERO such reports.
So it's up to you, but for me, it's a no brainer to keep using it, and I hope Samsung will respect that point of view and not cripple our phones with some unnecessary and unwanted forced update.

Chippy_boy said:
Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
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Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.

What did samsung do with the phone after they recalled it, if they didn't fix the issue?

Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.

Rick GM said:
Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
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https://twitter.com/SamsungUK/status/785863444696272896, they want UK note 7 owners to give the phone back

mikesaa309 said:
Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
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Indeed. Just looking it up now, you are 500 times more likely to die from riding a motorbike than you are to have a fire with your Note 7. (Assuming 1 phone per 500,000 has a problem.)

best buy exchanged mine out with no questions asked. I was told to even keep the 256GB SD card. unfortunate I went to the dark side and got iphone7 plus. The LG was just cheap and I was unimpressed. Buying the Google Pixel XL outright to bring over to Sprint was not a option for me. I am done with Sammy with all the issues I have had with there products since the Note 4 and other house hold appliances. Iphone was my only option.

I was just told Samsung is going to "turn off" the Note 7

In a chat with US Cellular I was just told "with the recall, it will not be able to stay on your account much longer, due at some point, Samsung will be turning off all the phones on all carriers."
I asked when but she said they do not know the date yet.
She also said I could re activate my Note 7 (which I didn't think was allowed) if the Note 5 I purchased online doesn't work properly.

It is inevitable.
They will try to get everyone to return or exchange their Note 7s first. And then this kill switch to reach out to those who has been living under a rock.
Unless you root the device and circumvent the kill switch.
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Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.

BozQ said:
My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
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I can understand that. That is until you start saying things like people "have a problem" and there is "something wrong" with people because they still have a note 7. Br0adband has said these things and worse.

Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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what is more laughable is that he has never owned one. From memory he had/has an S7E and was thinking about upgrading (before all the shxtstorm).
I am willing to suffer a phone sizzle if it means I get a few more weeks with this fantastic phone. I understand the risks, they are significantly low, but I also understand the impact of a total battery failure (running without the 256G SD card currently to avoid damage to it in the event of the phone internally melting).
I do not appreciate BrOadbands incessant drilling of existing N7 users, worse than a 19 year old cop doing the "respect my authority" thing.
Only 2 phones have cooked in Australia, from the original batch (1 was a forum member on Whirlpool forums, the other Samsung indicated when they were quoting numbers), we were getting the second batch a bit later than you guys in the US which may have meant slightly improved production process (made in Vietnam though, if that means anything).
I am however(unfortunately) getting this replaced, as I do fly and the American FAA getting a bit nervous and doing the banning meant globally all airlines followed not to mention that Samsung are giving some financial incentives that may not last forever to replace with S7E/S7 (got told almost 2 weeks ago now by a local Samsung phone rep "your S7E is coming within 21 days"...)
I think part of the product pull by Samsung was not about an inherent fault in all units, but some inevitable butt covering, since the product reputation was tainted, no way to recover from that, the phone would be impossible to sell with all the transportation bans, and how many different battery icon colours could they use to indicate if you owned a v1,2 or 3 lol.
I do believe it had a higher than normal failure rate though, esp in the US, my speculation is the soft construction of the battery was allowing it to get sufficiently distorted during assembly that some further condition was causing battery failure for those excessively distorted (such as plate to plate crystal growth).
Edit: look at this discussion about li-ion failure modes: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithium_failures.htm
Essentially, it says that the anode SEI layer can break down in as low temps as 80degC including from external heating. I know when we had that dodgy Ocululus update, my CPU when I checked was over 70degC and the whole phone was very warm due to very high current draw due to the max CPU load. So heat from both current draw from the battery, and external heat from the CPU getting toasty would not have helped any phone where the battery was also a little squashed/distorted when packed into the phone during assembly.
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NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8

ilordvader said:
NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
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Are you in the UK?

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Are you in the UK?
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im in Dubai
Hope this Helps -
Is there a way to disable updates without root?

This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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CerveCesar said:
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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Would have preferred they nerfed the CPU instead. And disable fast charge and wireless charging. All to prevent it from generating too much heat. Limiting to 60% probably isn't going to help much.
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If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?

LightningJay said:
Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Sorry. I didn't.
It was powered off for a few days. And I just got my V20. Turned it on to get some files out but I was shocked to find my Note 7 shut off. And then it rebooted and update my unit. And as expected, it was the 60% battery update.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Was your Note rooted?
Thanks

evo4g63t said:
If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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If you paid any attention to the pictures we were shown about the burned out phones. There was a a complete burn out and the phones were destroyed. Not a single phone was just damaged a little and stopped working. That shows the battery had a complete or near complete charge.
The batteries burned out completely because of the amount of charge held into them. Not because of their chemical composition. If you know what I mean.
If you ever worked with batteries; You'll know they get very hot and can expand as they overcharge. Thus expansion plus the new sharp aluminum frame inside, may have been 1 of the reasons for ignition we believe.
Keeping your charge at 60/80% lowers the risk of ignition by a lot.
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I actually think BroadBand or whatever actually did post a receipt of the purchase, although everyone knows you can find that on the internet. The person is a far-left lib/progressive who thinks their safe spaces are in jeopardy because a phone (Iphone 7 anyone??) may catch fire.
Anyway, I seriously, seriously doubt they will disable the phone completely. You bought the phone, and it is your phone. If you choose to use another battery inside the note 7, then press on (I have heard reports of folks trying this...it worked, but not sure of the specifics. One guy cracked his screen trying to get the battery out).
Plus, it is an FCC violation to disrupt a communications device. You don't know the person's circumstances. They may live on the fringe of civilization and haven't heard the news or didn't get the push. The first person that is harmed because their working phone was disabled will lead to humongous lawsuits.
A Sprint employee in Newnan Georgia told my daughter that Samsung would be shutting off her phone, and it was against the law for her to keep using. They pressured her hard, made her cry (she's young, first time away from home) because she couldn't get in touch with me. She didn't know what to do because she didn't want to get "arrested," which was the implication they were trying to make. She ended up getting pressured in a S7 because she was afraid of getting in trouble (and she is super furious for getting duped). She wanted to keep the phone until the release of the s8. She was in the store to pay her bill and they saw the phone sticking out of her pocket.
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By the way, Samsung has publicly stated that less than half of the phones were returned. That indicates a million or so are still out there.
I promise you, PROMISE YOU, that the very FIRST Note7 to catch fire despite the recall (because not being returned), would be splattered over every news channel.
How many post-recall reports of exploding batteries have we seen??? As far as I can tell, ZERO!!!! Don't mean it won't happen, but I think the danger is over-blown. Samsung did it because of the media coverage. A single injury (if they had not recalled) given the history of the phone would have resulted in 10s of millions of dollars in damages via litigation.

BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st

ilordvader said:
Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)

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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
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I got this Notification few days back
so seem all get the Software update at the same time

Samsung to start selling refurbished Note7s in India and Vietnam

Yes, the ones that used to be ours, only with smaller batteries and new housing. Frankly it pi** es me off.
Samsung better make sure it safely deleted previous user data or they will have new privacy and personal data related law suits on their hands.

Citation? We seen this sort of claim before.
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Citation? We seen this sort of claim before.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/report_says...nits_will_go_on_sale_this_june-news-23532.php
http://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-to-sell-refurbished-note-7-report/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-wants-to-sell-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-phones-apparently
Sorry, here you go. It is all over Google.

There is a lot of "apparently" and "reports say" in those articles. In any case, to sell in those markets they would have to replace the ROM, so I don't think there is much to worry about. Besides, who turns in a phone without wiping it thoroughly?
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I think average user thinks factory reset will take care of it all, but it won't.

And from June.... May as well wait for the 8
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I'm using the Note 5 and it's starting to show its age. I might consider this until the Note 8ncomes out if the price is reasonable, I'm hoping under 500.
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Seeings I'm still on my note7 all I'm curious about is if I might wind up with Nougat at some point. This is incredibly harsh on everybody who gave them up. We forced you to give your phone to us and now we're giving them away cheap to somebody else. Whole thing from start to finish has been so **** on note7 owners.

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Seeings I'm still on my note7 all I'm curious about is if I might wind up with Nougat at some point. This is incredibly harsh on everybody who gave them up. We forced you to give your phone to us and now we're giving them away cheap to somebody else. Whole thing from start to finish has been so **** on note7 owners.
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Why? Everyone got a full refund. If they've solved the problem this time, it seems pretty sensible to me to recover some costs
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Hopefully those are new "refurbished" devices they had in stock, not a refurbished phone from Bob who keyed up his screen and got pizza grease inside the speaker grill.
Anyhow, this article states otherwise:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...rbished-galaxy-note-7-phones-in-india-1662060

Thank you! I too have now found a few rebutal articles and feel a bit better. Even if I got a refund, that felt like my phone was taken away to be sold to someone else to enjoy while I have to put up with my dated Note4 (but I won't for too long, life is too short to be dealing with freezes, reboots etc).

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Why? Everyone got a full refund. If they've solved the problem this time, it seems pretty sensible to me to recover some costs
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Naturally, not disputing that. This is early days but at least e-mail everyone who returned the phone and offer them a handset too.

Maybe Samsung customers could be contact directly but I wouldn't trust car phone warehouse to catch pneumonia in the artic let along follow up to note 7 customers lol

Not feeling better anymore. They are doing it! Liars...
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/03/2...ck-the-galaxy-note-7-as-a-refurbished-device/

bonerp said:
Why? Everyone got a full refund. If they've solved the problem this time, it seems pretty sensible to me to recover some costs
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No everyone didnt.. still people out there who have sent back their note 7s and have nothing to show for it
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From the horses mouth...
https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...-7-devices-in-an-environmentally-friendly-way

I'd rather a refurbished Note 7 that this S8 'Bixby' nonsense.

The Phone Company said:
I'd rather a refurbished Note 7 that this S8 'Bixby' nonsense.
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I already preordered qn s8 plus but if i can manage to buy a refurb note 7 ill buy one of those too lol.
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