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Done with the Turbo 2

Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. Never owned a Samsung before, but I have to assume the support is better than the new Lenovo owned Motorola. I've been a loyal Moto customer since the OG Droid in 2010. Plus, these phones are too big. I'm not a huge guy, so a screen that is hard to hold, and fit in my pocket is a non starter. Hopefully, the battery is decent on the S7, and the phone reception is good. Otherwise, I can live without some of the great Moto software features, as nifty as they are. Software isn't much use when the screen is defective, or people can't hear me talking.

I must admit when I saw the title, I thought you were gonna leave because of the lack of MM update. Sorry to hear you've had so many problems with this phone, I hope the S7 brings you good luck.

You will hate how locked down the s7 is. Should of went 6p. I sold my turbo 2 for a 6p and love it. I had 2 turbo 2's never had an issues but the battery life on my 6p is about the same and I get USB type c unlocked and a fingerprint reader so this is more of what I wanted.

Martingitdave said:
Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. [...]
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I had the S5 and I really miss it. I thought I would like the Turbo 2 but it hasn't lived up to any of the promises so far, except I haven't tested the toughness of the screen. My replacement Turbo 2 came in today and I'll get it setup tonight. If it fails me, I'll get the S7 Edge because of the larger battery than the regular S7.
I've only had this phone for 2 months and it's developed hardware problems. I never had a hardware problem with the S5, just some stupid lack of updates from Samsung AND Verizon. I was lured by Motorola's false advertising of 3 days of battery life. I can't get 1 day of battery life if I actually use the phone. If I leave it face down and don't touch it, I could probably get 3 days. Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. The battery lasts 1 day, less than a day or just over a day and a half in my experience over the last 2 months. A day and a half was with VERY minimal phone usage.
I wish you the best with the S7 and I hope it's far better than this POS.

quarky42 said:
Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. T
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Start moto app, tap right top corner, actions, first option on the list...

I don't believe Verizon ever said 3 days of battery. What I saw was up to 48 hours with mixed usage.
I average almost 20 hours and 5.5 OST.
Much better than the M8 I had before it.
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Martingitdave said:
I'm not a huge guy.
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I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there

xbxjunkie said:
I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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Martingitdave said:
Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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me too.....boss......relax

xbxjunkie said:
I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Sadly we don't have girls (or they're really rare) here to confirm the size really matters

The 6P is a huge phone and ugly as sin. Great for updates, but if you aren't a front speaker aficionado (which I'm not) then it is just ugly and wasted space.
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I've had my Verizon turbo 2 since about 2 weeks after release and have had 0 hardware problems and haven't replaced it once. You're either really clumsy or really unlucky. People don't know how to take care of their phone and I'm assuming you're one of those people, considering you've replaced it 5 times. As far as the battery life I'm a heavy user and push 24 hrs before I'm out of battery. Learn how to train it and uninstall stuff that eats up the battery. I see so many people leave like 100 different apps open in the task manager (the built in one of course) and it kills me. They wonder why their phone is so slow or why it's always dead so quick and their too ****ing lazy to click a button and kill tasks. Anyways I'm sure you don't have the ignorance of people like that otherwise you wouldn't be browsing and posting on XDA. The only reason I would see me moving on from this phone is for root and BL unlock. I love my Roms and kernels. When I was still in school I had a gs3 that I had a new ROM on every day I came to school lol. I miss that **** but I just don't wanna go back to Samsung's mediocre feeling phones, just not a trade-off I'm willing to make. But if that's what you want, all power to you man and gl.

Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.

mjones73 said:
Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.
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I can attest to this, my first turbo 2 had a green line the first time I turned the phone on 2 days after release, fortunately I hadn't walked out the door yet so they swapped it out immediately. as for the power button issue, surprisingly making a seal with your mouth and blowing hard seems to dislodge whatever dust might be getting stuck and fixes the issue (found this solution online, it has worked like a charm)

This is truly unbelievable, I paid off my DT2 600.00 that I got in October. Nothing wrong with it, excellent shape. I pre ordered the s7 edge and was going to trade it in and knock down the price a little on my new one. ISYN, they only offered me 36.53 for it! I thought was a mistake so I asked several times. Looks like I will keep this one as a backup.

They always say NOT to use task killers
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just for the recordd, i think the hardware issues probably have more to do with how verizon handles. stores and ships devices cuz its nvr seemed to matter what kind of phone ive had ive always had 3-6 warranty exchanges, and we all know those dnt come brand new in the box, usually actually someone elses defect return. there arnt 10000 dt2 out there that are defective, there are 1000 and vzw has sent them to 10 people each :/

Unfortunately, the only way to have a brand new phone is to be first in line opening morning release day. And even then, that you don't receive a phone that has already been tested/used by a Verizon employee and repackaged. Fortunately, knock on wood, I have my original purchased opening morning.
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I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with your phone sir. I've had nothing but awesomeness with mine. I will admit I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of dev support for the DT2. I would love to learn how to Dev for this, but I'm way too busy with life. I left Samsung bc I got tired of the VERY SLOW AND LAGGING OS. I would've gone the Nexus route, but I've really been impressed with Lenovarola lately. I know some of you aren't but I'm having good luck.
Anyway best of luck to you on your Samsung!

Okay, had the T2 since 3 days after launch. The Green Line appeared about two months ago, got a replacement. The mic would not work unless on speakerphone. Got a replacement and now the phone all too often heats up, and I get instant battery drain. When this happens, I lose about 30% of the charge in 20 minutes... Plus, little tiny scratches on the phone screen. I have never had a screen saver on any phone, and never had a problem...

Insider News from Samsung Korea internal situation...

Source: Korea Samsung Headquarters clerk (from my country) sharing with his friend.
Reporting:
- Several High positioned personal resignations.
- The Firm stands strong and united, instead of despairing over the situation.
- Samsung's Engineers are working overtime over a new technology that will revolutionize the smartphone market. Priorly, this technology was supposed to be targeted for the following years. But after the Note 7 disaster, they decided to push it for the next Smartphone release.
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Opinion: Sounds legit. Just wanted to share the news. Nothing official of course.

I guess these "high positioned personnel" are the ones who pushed for batteries to be made by Samsung SDI. What makes it even more disappointing is, the replacement units are still SDI batteries. While we've heard nothing from the China region units with ATL batteries.
Samsung should shut their factory down and just stick with the winning formula.
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Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.

B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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Agreed.
Instead they should solidify their present technology like avoiding explosions...

B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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How do you know this? You don't. We don't know the cause yet.

Well! Tell them to fu** ing explain to us what was it they messed up so bad to infringe our personal property, safety and make us a ton of expences we will never get back!! Tell them they should be convincingnus they are not incompetent to make electronisc anymore in the first place!!

Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
I have turned fast charging off via the cable and wireless. I have zero over heating problems, zero lag issues, phone is acting like a phone. the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc.... That is the hard part. I will probably turn my Note 3 into my travel device for music and games and such. Like a glorified Android iPod touch. Ill just turn disable to mobile data and phone stuff, hide the sim card removed icon.
A lot of work still. Damnit Samsung.....

My note 7's (both the original and the replacement) have worked basically perfectly. They don't overheat, don't lag, really not a single problem. The Note 7 is by far the best overall smartphone made to date. Best display, best display to overall size ratio, best camera, waterproof, etc. Only two issues I would say are the edge display which makes a tempered screen protector impossible and a so-so external speaker. And of course the kicker - the non-removable battery. Had they just made it with a removable battery this issue would have not been a phone-killer. It is sad that the best phone ever made to date is killed off like this. And we still have no definitive answer to what is the problem? Seems incomprehensible.

htusa said:
Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
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That sounds like speculation. These devices have been melting without being charged. We don't even know if Samsung knows what the actual problem is. Hopefully it all comes out so we get some reassurance about their next phones.

I read a lil bit ago that they didn't know what the actual problem was which is why they decided to kill it. They had over 100 people testing them round the clock and could not duplicate the issue of causing one to smoke/catch fire... of course though they were an anonymous
person close to the situation.
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"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.

Itchiee said:
"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

htusa said:
the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc
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Look, I get it, I want to keep my phone as well, and I am not sure what I will do. But to fly with it, while you base the rest on rumors, is plain irresponsible. What you do at home is your business, but getting on a plane with several hundred passengers and a possibly defective phone isn't (there's literally no way for you to tell whether your phone is safe or not). Samsung did after all improve the replacements as they are reportedly catching fire without being charged.

I was just told Samsung is going to "turn off" the Note 7

In a chat with US Cellular I was just told "with the recall, it will not be able to stay on your account much longer, due at some point, Samsung will be turning off all the phones on all carriers."
I asked when but she said they do not know the date yet.
She also said I could re activate my Note 7 (which I didn't think was allowed) if the Note 5 I purchased online doesn't work properly.

It is inevitable.
They will try to get everyone to return or exchange their Note 7s first. And then this kill switch to reach out to those who has been living under a rock.
Unless you root the device and circumvent the kill switch.
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Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.

BozQ said:
My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
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I can understand that. That is until you start saying things like people "have a problem" and there is "something wrong" with people because they still have a note 7. Br0adband has said these things and worse.

Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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what is more laughable is that he has never owned one. From memory he had/has an S7E and was thinking about upgrading (before all the shxtstorm).
I am willing to suffer a phone sizzle if it means I get a few more weeks with this fantastic phone. I understand the risks, they are significantly low, but I also understand the impact of a total battery failure (running without the 256G SD card currently to avoid damage to it in the event of the phone internally melting).
I do not appreciate BrOadbands incessant drilling of existing N7 users, worse than a 19 year old cop doing the "respect my authority" thing.
Only 2 phones have cooked in Australia, from the original batch (1 was a forum member on Whirlpool forums, the other Samsung indicated when they were quoting numbers), we were getting the second batch a bit later than you guys in the US which may have meant slightly improved production process (made in Vietnam though, if that means anything).
I am however(unfortunately) getting this replaced, as I do fly and the American FAA getting a bit nervous and doing the banning meant globally all airlines followed not to mention that Samsung are giving some financial incentives that may not last forever to replace with S7E/S7 (got told almost 2 weeks ago now by a local Samsung phone rep "your S7E is coming within 21 days"...)
I think part of the product pull by Samsung was not about an inherent fault in all units, but some inevitable butt covering, since the product reputation was tainted, no way to recover from that, the phone would be impossible to sell with all the transportation bans, and how many different battery icon colours could they use to indicate if you owned a v1,2 or 3 lol.
I do believe it had a higher than normal failure rate though, esp in the US, my speculation is the soft construction of the battery was allowing it to get sufficiently distorted during assembly that some further condition was causing battery failure for those excessively distorted (such as plate to plate crystal growth).
Edit: look at this discussion about li-ion failure modes: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithium_failures.htm
Essentially, it says that the anode SEI layer can break down in as low temps as 80degC including from external heating. I know when we had that dodgy Ocululus update, my CPU when I checked was over 70degC and the whole phone was very warm due to very high current draw due to the max CPU load. So heat from both current draw from the battery, and external heat from the CPU getting toasty would not have helped any phone where the battery was also a little squashed/distorted when packed into the phone during assembly.
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NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8

ilordvader said:
NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
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Are you in the UK?

chrisnosleep said:
Are you in the UK?
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im in Dubai
Hope this Helps -
Is there a way to disable updates without root?

This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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CerveCesar said:
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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Would have preferred they nerfed the CPU instead. And disable fast charge and wireless charging. All to prevent it from generating too much heat. Limiting to 60% probably isn't going to help much.
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If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?

LightningJay said:
Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Sorry. I didn't.
It was powered off for a few days. And I just got my V20. Turned it on to get some files out but I was shocked to find my Note 7 shut off. And then it rebooted and update my unit. And as expected, it was the 60% battery update.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Was your Note rooted?
Thanks

evo4g63t said:
If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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If you paid any attention to the pictures we were shown about the burned out phones. There was a a complete burn out and the phones were destroyed. Not a single phone was just damaged a little and stopped working. That shows the battery had a complete or near complete charge.
The batteries burned out completely because of the amount of charge held into them. Not because of their chemical composition. If you know what I mean.
If you ever worked with batteries; You'll know they get very hot and can expand as they overcharge. Thus expansion plus the new sharp aluminum frame inside, may have been 1 of the reasons for ignition we believe.
Keeping your charge at 60/80% lowers the risk of ignition by a lot.
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I actually think BroadBand or whatever actually did post a receipt of the purchase, although everyone knows you can find that on the internet. The person is a far-left lib/progressive who thinks their safe spaces are in jeopardy because a phone (Iphone 7 anyone??) may catch fire.
Anyway, I seriously, seriously doubt they will disable the phone completely. You bought the phone, and it is your phone. If you choose to use another battery inside the note 7, then press on (I have heard reports of folks trying this...it worked, but not sure of the specifics. One guy cracked his screen trying to get the battery out).
Plus, it is an FCC violation to disrupt a communications device. You don't know the person's circumstances. They may live on the fringe of civilization and haven't heard the news or didn't get the push. The first person that is harmed because their working phone was disabled will lead to humongous lawsuits.
A Sprint employee in Newnan Georgia told my daughter that Samsung would be shutting off her phone, and it was against the law for her to keep using. They pressured her hard, made her cry (she's young, first time away from home) because she couldn't get in touch with me. She didn't know what to do because she didn't want to get "arrested," which was the implication they were trying to make. She ended up getting pressured in a S7 because she was afraid of getting in trouble (and she is super furious for getting duped). She wanted to keep the phone until the release of the s8. She was in the store to pay her bill and they saw the phone sticking out of her pocket.
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By the way, Samsung has publicly stated that less than half of the phones were returned. That indicates a million or so are still out there.
I promise you, PROMISE YOU, that the very FIRST Note7 to catch fire despite the recall (because not being returned), would be splattered over every news channel.
How many post-recall reports of exploding batteries have we seen??? As far as I can tell, ZERO!!!! Don't mean it won't happen, but I think the danger is over-blown. Samsung did it because of the media coverage. A single injury (if they had not recalled) given the history of the phone would have resulted in 10s of millions of dollars in damages via litigation.

BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st

ilordvader said:
Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)

BozQ said:
I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
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I got this Notification few days back
so seem all get the Software update at the same time

brightness problem

My note 8 brightness always goes to max, even when I turn off adaptive brightness, it turns back on and brightness goes to max.

this is a known issue that samsung is not doing anything about. I wont buy another note......
Try the YAAB app, this seems to actually work, and it shuts off the auto brightness built into the note 8!

rstran said:
this is a known issue that samsung is not doing anything about. I wont buy another note......
Try the YAAB app, this seems to actually work, and it shuts off the auto brightness built into the note 8!
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I never had that kind of problem and you're actually the first person I've ever seen say anything about the brightness. In any case I'm not buying another Samsung either because I'm tired of the locked down phone B.S. and being told what we can and can't do with our phones and not to mention they made fun of other companies for removing the headphone jack and here they went and apparently removed it on the Note 10 that's coming out next month.. I'm going to find a different phone!!

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I never had that kind of problem and you're actually the first person I've ever seen say anything about the brightness. In any case I'm not buying another Samsung either because I'm tired of the locked down phone B.S. and being told what we can and can't do with our phones and not to mention they made fun of other companies for removing the headphone jack and here they went and apparently removed it on the Note 10 that's coming out next month.. I'm going to find a different phone!!
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I ONLY bought the note for the stylus. I use my phone for work and people hate signing service agreements with their finger, but I'm with you. I avoided for years. I'll probably look at the Pixl when I'm ready for a new phone.
Oh, no brightness problem here, either

HipKat said:
I ONLY bought the note for the stylus. I use my phone for work and people hate signing service agreements with their finger, but I'm with you. I avoided for years. I'll probably look at the Pixl when I'm ready for a new phone.
Oh, no brightness problem here, either
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That's why I bought the phone anyway myself for the stylus and work but at this point I've pretty much had it with Samsung and their locking our phones down.. Frankly I can't understand how they're able to take Android and lock it down like this because it's open source software and locking it down makes it like it's their own software! Lately I don't find myself using the stylus anymore I actually haven't taken it out in about a month now so it's really not important as it uses to be.. I'm actually looking at the pixel and oneplus for now but I haven't settled on anything specific yet.

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That's why I bought the phone anyway myself for the stylus and work but at this point I've pretty much had it with Samsung and their locking our phones down.. Frankly I can't understand how they're able to take Android and lock it down like this because it's open source software and locking it down makes it like it's their own software! Lately I don't find myself using the stylus anymore I actually haven't taken it out in about a month now so it's really not important as it uses to be.. I'm actually looking at the pixel and oneplus for now but I haven't settled on anything specific yet.
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For me, it'll come down to the one with the most Amateur development. I miss flashing and mod'g my devices, a lot

HipKat said:
For me, it'll come down to the one with the most Amateur development. I miss flashing and mod'g my devices, a lot
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This is what I'm thinking about going for.. Either one of these two phones in this video. https://youtu.be/SNl8lP3roEo

I would go for the one plus if it worked on Verizon. Also will look at pixel 4 before I buy the note 10, especially if the note 10 is missing an sd card, that would be the end of me using samsung phones. I'll take performance, pen, samsung pay and sd card over root, but if you remove sdcard from note and both have similar cpu, then it's an easier switch.

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For me, it'll come down to the one with the most Amateur development. I miss flashing and mod'g my devices, a lot
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Bro, they definitely took the headphone jack away from both of the Note 10s!! Not only that but they took the SD card away from the 6.3 Note 10 but they put it in the 6.8 Note 10.. I guess they just lost another customer because I definitely won't be paying them for a dongle to use my expensive headphones!! They're freaking being more and more like Apple I swear!! There's definitely some other phone's out there now that can easily compete with Samsung now! Bye bye Samsung!!
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I would go for the one plus if it worked on Verizon. Also will look at pixel 4 before I buy the note 10, especially if the note 10 is missing an sd card, that would be the end of me using samsung phones. I'll take performance, pen, samsung pay and sd card over root, but if you remove sdcard from note and both have similar cpu, then it's an easier switch.
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The first Note 10 IS missing the SD card slot!! They said they took it away to save "space" but if you want the SD card you have to fork over more money for the more expensive 6.8 Note 10 but I'm not doing it screw Samsung now!!

MrMike2182 said:
Bro, they definitely took the headphone jack away from both of the Note 10s!! Not only that but they took the SD card away from the 6.3 Note 10 but they put it in the 6.8 Note 10.. I guess they just lost another customer because I definitely won't be paying them for a dongle to use my expensive headphones!! They're freaking being more and more like Apple I swear!! There's definitely some other phone's out there now that can easily compete with Samsung now! Bye bye Samsung!!
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The first Note 10 IS missing the SD card slot!! They said they took it away to save "space" but if you want the SD card you have to fork over more money for the more expensive 6.8 Note 10 but I'm not doing it screw Samsung now!!
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Dude, I had a customer today with a brand new Samsung and all the apps were on the desktop. There was no app drawer. Maybe there’s an option for a one, I don’t know. These things are getting to be too damn expensive anyhow.

HipKat said:
Dude, I had a customer today with a brand new Samsung and all the apps were on the desktop. There was no app drawer. Maybe there’s an option for a one, I don’t know. These things are getting to be too damn expensive anyhow.
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I'm bothered by the fact that they bashed Apple for removing the headphone jack and they even made videos making fun of Apple and mocking them for doing it but NOW if you go try to look for any of those videos you won't find them anymore because Samsung took the videos down! I do have something you might like to see though, haha!! Check this one out though!! https://youtu.be/-4dNo6ASqbM

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I'm bothered by the fact that they bashed Apple for removing the headphone jack and they even made videos making fun of Apple and mocking them for doing it but NOW if you go try to look for any of those videos you won't find them anymore because Samsung took the videos down! I do have something you might like to see though, haha!! Check this one out though!! https://youtu.be/-4dNo6ASqbM
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And now the Note 10+5G is a 3 yr contract to pay a lower per month rate

HipKat said:
And now the Note 10+5G is a 3 yr contract to pay a lower per month rate
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Not worth it lol.. These phones barely last for the first 2 year contract much less is it gonna last for 3!

MrMike2182 said:
Not worth it lol.. These phones barely last for the first 2 year contract much less is it gonna last for 3!
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Not even 2 years. By the time the Note 10 is settled in, the 11 will be getting sneak peaks

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Not even 2 years. By the time the Note 10 is settled in, the 11 will be getting sneak peaks
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I just realized something after I noticed a 2 1/2 inch section of my screen has burn in already! I had the screen replaced about a year ago because of the burn in issue affecting the colors at the bottom half of the screen.. It seems to me like Samsung's capable of making it so the screens only last a certain amount of time and then they start suffering from the screen burn in problems! I noticed on my mom's phone that I bought her, the screen has not been replaced at all and I looked at it today while fixing something for her and the screen burn in was unbelievable and ALL over the entire screen and I could even see the keyboard when it wasn't even open!! I'm thinking they do this on purpose to make us either upgrade or buy another screen out of warranty! There's absolutely no reason they can't find a way to protect this from happening! I don't even ever have my screens brightness up near or past the halfway point so I think it's ridiculous and purposely done! I can't believe my screen has burn in when I rarely ever keep anything on the screen long enough for that to possibly happen!

MrMike2182 said:
I just realized something after I noticed a 2 1/2 inch section of my screen has burn in already! I had the screen replaced about a year ago because of the burn in issue affecting the colors at the bottom half of the screen.. It seems to me like Samsung's capable of making it so the screens only last a certain amount of time and then they start suffering from the screen burn in problems! I noticed on my mom's phone that I bought her, the screen has not been replaced at all and I looked at it today while fixing something for her and the screen burn in was unbelievable and ALL over the entire screen and I could even see the keyboard when it wasn't even open!! I'm thinking they do this on purpose to make us either upgrade or buy another screen out of warranty! There's absolutely no reason they can't find a way to protect this from happening! I don't even ever have my screens brightness up near or past the halfway point so I think it's ridiculous and purposely done! I can't believe my screen has burn in when I rarely ever keep anything on the screen long enough for that to possibly happen!
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That's odd. I don't it on mine and I keep my brightness down, too

Question Anyone else have Green Bar down their dispaly?

I was a work with my phone on my desk and when I went to pick it up there a green bar down the right side of the screen. this phone is only 1 week old. i cropped the picture due to not wanting to have faces on the internet lol, but its the whole side.

Looks like the display is broken. Those kinds of lines appear when there's a fault.

That definitely looks like your display has gone bye-bye. I mean you could always try a factory reset, but I highly doubt it will help in any way.
Might be hardware fault, might be drop damage, or something else.
In any case, you need a replacement.

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That definitely looks like your display has gone bye-bye. I mean you could always try a factory reset, but I highly doubt it will help in any way.
Might be hardware fault, might be drop damage, or something else.
In any case, you need a replacement.
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I contacted the google insurance company and they are sending me a new one.

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I contacted the google insurance company and they are sending me a new one.
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That's good to hear. Nice that it worked out so quickly for you.
I am a bit surprised. Usually Googles support is mediocre and a joke, but I have not yet a single story about the P6 support that was terrible.

Morgrain said:
That's good to hear. Nice that it worked out so quickly for you.
I am a bit surprised. Usually Googles support is mediocre and a joke, but I have not yet a single story about the P6 support that was terrible.
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Im guessing since this is a company they contract with it may be a little easier. my first 6pro slipped while putting a case on it and it cracked. so this a replacement for that one. i didn't have to go through google for this process. they do have lackluster customer service.

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I contacted the google insurance company and they are sending me a new one.
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If the 2nd one's a dud get a full refund... if purchased with a MC or Visa inform the bank of the issue... document.

blackhawk said:
If the 2nd one's a dud get a full refund... if purchased with a MC or Visa inform the bank of the issue... document.
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wil do. thank you

make sure it is not a refurbished phone too

The green line thing seems to be a "common" defect on OLED screens. I've seen posts of it happened to Samsung, OnePlus, Apple, and Google devices. It's reported to be an electrical fault so I'd definitely get it replaced.

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The green line thing seems to be a "common" defect on OLED screens. I've seen posts of it happened to Samsung, OnePlus, Apple, and Google devices. It's reported to be an electrical fault so I'd definitely get it replaced.
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There are more problems with the variable frequency refresh rate displays in general.
Color rendering/calibration suffers as well. This model though just seems to have display issues a plenty.
Yours was a defective unit that never should've passed QC. WTF?
I recently went with a second new N10+ because the issues with the variable rate displays; poor color rendering is very noticeable to me and for other reasons. Both displays are dead on perfect.
After 2 years of heavy usage I can find no signs of screen degradation on the oldest one. These are solid work horses that look and run great.
The newest isn't necessarily the best candidate...

blackhawk said:
There are more problems with the variable frequency refresh rate displays in general.
Color rendering/calibration suffers as well. This model though just seems to have display issues a plenty.
Yours was a defective unit that never should've passed QC. WTF?
I recently went with a second new N10+ because the issues with the variable rate displays; poor color rendering is very noticeable to me and for other reasons. Both displays are dead on perfect.
After 2 years of heavy usage I can find no signs of screen degradation on the oldest one. These are solid work horses that look and run great.
The newest isn't necessarily the best candidate...
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I def understand that. just though they would have figured alot of the kinks out. I am using my oneplus 9 pro until they figure it out. having to argue with them that 1:30pm is before 2:30pm...ugh

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I def understand that. just though they would have figured alot of the kinks out. I am using my oneplus 9 pro until they figure it out. having to argue with them that 1:30pm is before 2:30pm...ugh
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Get a refund and chill until something good comes along.
The only manufacturer I really hawk is Samsung and this year has been a disaster. It seems it's across the board with most of the manufacturers and not just the displays.
Trying to integrate a functional UI for Android 10, and especially 11 and 12 hasn't helped one bit. Even Google struggles with the mess they engineered.
Lol, how deep will this rabbit hole go?
Developers are estimating 2-3 years to straighten out scoped storage alone. Variable refresh rate has turned into a color calibration* nightmare. Add the mess of 5G implementation* to that mix. Issues aren't isolated but common on all the newer devices it seems. 2021 has sucked for Android, I think 2022 will be just as bad.
My confidence level isn't high... this fubar won't be cleaned up soon.
*Google Android should've put their energy and resources into properly implementing these critical features instead of scoped storage as even Android 9 is secure if used properly.

blackhawk said:
Get a refund and chill until something good comes along.
The only manufacturer I really hawk is Samsung and this year has been a disaster. It seems it's across the board with most of the manufacturers and not just the displays.
Trying to integrate a functional UI for Android 10, and especially 11 and 12 hasn't helped one bit. Even Google struggles with the mess they engineered.
Lol, how deep will this rabbit hole go?
Developers are estimating 2-3 years to straighten out scoped storage alone. Variable refresh rate has turned into a color calibration* nightmare. Add the mess of 5G implementation* to that mix. Issues aren't isolated but common on all the newer devices it seems. 2021 has sucked for Android, I think 2022 will be just as bad.
My confidence level isn't high... this fubar won't be cleaned up soon.
*Google Android should've put their energy and resources into properly implementing these critical features instead of scoped storage as even Android 9 is secure if used properly.
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I know who your allegiance is with now. My Pixel so far has been rock solid,as was my V40 and 60 before it.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
I know who your allegiance is with now. My Pixel so far has been rock solid,as was my V40 and 60 before it.
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I use whatever comes in handy... and looks/works well.
The Pixel UI is barren and dysfunction in my opinion. This what a stock N10+ UI homepage can look like.
I'm glad you're having a good experience...