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http://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat
18 Months = 1.5 Years
The iPhone 4 was released at 2010 and was upgraded to iOS7 2013
The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was released at 2011 1 year after the iPhone 4
Apple: Continues Support till end of iOS7
Google : Drops support @ Android 4.3
Whats up with that?
The Nexus has the specs to run the new Android 4.4
so does the iPhone 4 Running iOS7
All this talk about Updates is giving me a pain in the ass, it seems like now Apple is the better route?
Whats even better is the Nexus S was released @ 2010
Lets take a look @ google's reason for not updating
Galaxy Nexus, which first launched two years ago, falls outside of the 18-month update window when Google and others traditionally update devices... Okay, lets look @ the current version the Nexus s has OTA (4.1.2 Jellybean)
4.1 Jelly bean was released 2012 ish, 18 months = 1.5 years (thanks google search)
Phone released in 2010 its PAST Google's 18 Month Policy
Sources for release dates: Engadget,Wikipedia
Sources for other stuff: Google.
http://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat
Please sign the petition.
markdapimp said:
http://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat
Please sign it
The Galaxy Nexus's specs fit Android 4.4
It's not yet known to a lot of people, but Texas Instruments has now updated* the GPU binaries for the Galaxy Nexus. This is a great message to all Galaxy Nexus users because this means it has not been dropped by TI as a rumor originating from engadget had suggested.
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LOL you serious ? i signed that the day they announced that gnex wont get the update, besides its useless! and unlock bootloader and flash recovery and update manually man ! dont be scared ! its a nexus! its hard to brick one
I would like an ota update though it feels nice to be official
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Tbh it's not going to happen. Perhaps Google was intended to be the White Knight compared to the evil fruit. But sadly the hardware limitation stops it from progressive advancement. The core can't handle the new OpenGL3.0 which is probably going to be their main focus on KEYLIME. I'm just guessing at this point that there are new CPU with the same price range that can do double the workload.
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I signed the petition a few weeks ago.
Since then I've given up. There are some really nice 4.4 roms available right now so why worry.
I'm using one as a daily driver and it's great, including data switching, etc.
Thanks for the efforts though.
Misledz said:
Tbh it's not going to happen. Perhaps Google was intended to be the White Knight compared to the evil fruit. But sadly the hardware limitation stops it from progressive advancement. The core can't handle the new OpenGL3.0 which is probably going to be their main focus on KEYLIME. I'm just guessing at this point that there are new CPU with the same price range that can do double the workload.
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Theres still a chance it would there are 4.4 Roms running smoothly on it so there isn't a reason for an official ota from google
Hey guys!
As all of you, I got really disappointed when Google said that our great Nexus wouldn't be updated, and at that time, I really had no hope about the customs and this hardware limitations, but nowadays, I feel the devs are doing an amazing job and the roms are pretty good to dailly use.
I flashed CM11 yesterday and all my frustation has gone... It's almost near perfection, even in "alpha stages"...
I'm not saying that I don't support an official update, but considering that Google doesn't like "us" anymore, let the devs keep going on their fantastic work.
Bye!
I've signed it. But the most important thing is we have a great developer on custom rom
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it feels nice to be official
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I don't even know what this means....
This is a developer phone! Root & flash Shiny Rom. Done.
Most people don't buy a nexus to develop on many people like myself want the latest and greatest android.
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If I was an average consumer you want the latest and greatest also
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If I was an average consumer you want the latest and greatest also
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Once again, I'm at a loss to understand your post, but consider this: the plethora of 4.4 roms that are being offered right now for us are running more smoothly than those phones currently running otas from Google.
And owning a developer phone doesn't mean you must be a developer yourself. What it means is simply that we get to enjoy the multitude of talented folks who create awesomeness for our phone.
I'm not against your petition by any means, but I think you need a dose of reality, which is that 1) it won't happen and 2) we don't need it.
Sent from a frequent flasher.
Rushead said:
Once again, I'm at a loss to understand your post, but consider this: the plethora of 4.4 roms that are being offered right now for us are running more smoothly than those phones currently running otas from Google.
And owning a developer phone doesn't mean you must be a developer yourself. What it means is simply that we get to enjoy the multitude of talented folks who create awesomeness for our phone.
I'm not against your petition by any means, but I think you need a dose of reality, which is that 1) it won't happen and 2) we don't need it.
Sent from a frequent flasher.
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1. it will happen
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1. it will happen
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Buena Suerte.
--Focker out.
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1. it will happen
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My first Android was Motorola Milestone XT720, first phone with an 8mpl camera, all reviews were misleading and the phone was a total flop. Got the phone cause it was my local carriers top phone and it was free. It was the first petition I had seen sparked by dropped support. Moto and my carrier both promised the upgrade to Froyo! Lmao. There were thousands and thousands of signatures I believe but it did not matter to Moto. Cincinnati Bell Wireless did a gracious thing and Kanged a ROM from here and made it their official update to make good on their promise but as far as I know, no petition has ever got any attention. Since then I went with Nexus S and to the Galaxy Nexus cause I never wanted to go through that again! The dreaded XT720 is still stuck on Eclair, never received even one official update! And it was a $500 phone! Cannot believe how they got away with that sham but they did I guess. I would say everyone vowed to never buy a Motorola again! Anyhoo it's always nice to have the official update cause out of all me non-Nexus phones it seems ported ROM's of latest Android always have the pesky little bugs that never get fixed. It seems we hang on and on, refreshing Development threads daily looking for an update to a miracle and it just never quite happens. Now here we are with our beloved Nexus, thinking we were gonna see Key Lime Pie and out from nowhere comes KitKat and we get tossed like dirty underwear! LMAO! Never imagined a petition for a Nexus! But the great thing that separates us from all of the other petitions... is we got the best Dev's in the business working hard for us on a phone with an unlocked bootloader made for this exact thing! Getting the latest and greatest custom ROM's without worry!
We need to start demanding removable batteries and SDCards on all new devices! Stop buying the built in battery/cloud storage NSA spy grid phones! We are allowing Google to take over the world! Lol.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE BE THANKFUL WE ARE BLESSED WITH THE NEXUS EXPERIENCE! I AM THANKFUL FOR XDA AND EVERYONE IN THIS GREAT COMMUNITY! (Sorry for the long rant I feel better now thank you)
18 Months = 1.5 Years
The iPhone 4 was released at 2010 and was upgraded to iOS7 2013
The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was released at 2011 1 year after the iPhone 4
Apple: Continues Support till end of iOS7
Google : Drops support @ Android 4.3
Whats up with that?
The Nexus has the specs to run the new Android 4.4
so does the iPhone 4 Running iOS7
All this talk about Updates is giving me a pain in the ass, it seems like now Apple is the better route?
Whats even better is the Nexus S was released @ 2010
Lets take a look @ google's reason for not updating
Galaxy Nexus, which first launched two years ago, falls outside of the 18-month update window when Google and others traditionally update devices... Okay, lets look @ the current version the Nexus s has OTA (4.1.2 Jellybean)
4.1 Jelly bean was released 2012 ish, 18 months = 1.5 years (thanks google search)
Phone released in 2010 its PAST Google's 18 Month Policy
Sources for release dates: Engadget,Wikipedia
Sources for other stuff: Google
Infact the Galaxy nexus is STILL being sold @ Verizon stores for $50
For 30$ i could go get the Samsung Galaxy S3 for $30
and the Samsung Galaxy S3 will get 4.3.4.4
and i thought nexus devices were superior
markdapimp said:
Infact the Galaxy nexus is STILL being sold @ Verizon stores for $50
For 30$ i could go get the Samsung Galaxy S3 for $30
and the Samsung Galaxy S3 will get 4.3.4.4
and i thought nexus devices were superior
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All US carriers' S3 have a Snapdragon S4 (MSM8960) CPU which is still being actively used in many mid-to-high-range phones, and is highly consistent with newer Snapdragons in terms of architecture (makes porting ROMs and kernels easier)
Ours has an OMAP4xxx which got abandoned by its own manufacturer despite its success...
Blame Google, but also blame TI for their stupid choice to quit the market.
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markdapimp said:
18 Months = 1.5 Years
The iPhone 4 was released at 2010 and was upgraded to iOS7 2013
The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was released at 2011 1 year after the iPhone 4
Apple: Continues Support till end of iOS7
Google : Drops support @ Android 4.3
Whats up with that?
The Nexus has the specs to run the new Android 4.4
so does the iPhone 4 Running iOS7
All this talk about Updates is giving me a pain in the ass, it seems like now Apple is the better route?
Whats even better is the Nexus S was released @ 2010
Lets take a look @ google's reason for not updating
Galaxy Nexus, which first launched two years ago, falls outside of the 18-month update window when Google and others traditionally update devices... Okay, lets look @ the current version the Nexus s has OTA (4.1.2 Jellybean)
4.1 Jelly bean was released 2012 ish, 18 months = 1.5 years (thanks google search)
Phone released in 2010 its PAST Google's 18 Month Policy
Sources for release dates: Engadget,Wikipedia
Sources for other stuff: Google
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Did the Iphone cost same as the Nexus? So why compare them.
People buy Nexus for the huge development community it has, its not even been a month since the kitkat was released and we already have perfect working ROM's. Just flash them and enjoy, instead of protesting to get what we have already have.
Just my thoughts.
It is interesting to see some of last year's models (S3, Note II, etc..) getting Android 4.3, but not Galaxy Note 8.0.
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It is interesting to see some of last year's models (S3, Note II, etc..) getting Android 4.3, but not Galaxy Note 8.0.
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Dude, at least you got 4.2. I'm on the AT&T variant and I'm still on 4.1.2. I'm seriously fricking bummed that we are being left out in the cold on this device. Not a sniff of 4.2, 4.3, or KK.
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Dude, at least you got 4.2. I'm on the AT&T variant and I'm still on 4.1.2. I'm seriously fricking bummed that we are being left out in the cold on this device. Not a sniff of 4.2, 4.3, or KK.
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Absolutely nothing special about 4.3 to look forward to.
It does look like the note 8 has been left behind for now. This is very frustrating. Nowadays when you buy devices, you expect it to receive updates in a timely manner, especially with higher end models. 4.2.2 is now almost a year old and there are now several other version updates that have been released since then. This also goes to show that its not just carriers that are responsible for the delay of releasing updates. I have the wifi only version and with this, its Google, then Samsung, then to consumer. And it sure isnt google, so that only leaves Samsung. So for you guys on 4.1.2, thats probably on the carrier for not releasing 4.2.2.
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Why feel bad
4.2.2 seems pretty stable. In a world of change, I rather have a device work well than by something that is broken when you open the box.
Features don't mean much, when programers lack the ability to produce quality work for the hardware. My 10 year old 64bit laptop did not get any benefit from 64 bit OS versions until much later, after the hardware was considered legacy. A new laptop to replace it would be a bit faster but, would lack the features of dual hard disks and expansion ports for upgrades. Everything made now has limited expandability due to hardware constraints, more than OS ability. Only a few tablets have SD cards, and rather push 300+ PPI true 1080p for a slightly noticeable wow factor. Eventually there will be 4.4 out for the Note 8. Not sure I will go to it as it is limiting more than expanding on what I am accustom to with 4.2.
All good points but there is one thing that you arent accounting for....security updates. With each release comes with security updates and patches. Believe me, im all about stability but with an android version thats almost a year old, that is leaving us vulnerable to security vulnerabilities. Its one thing to not update for certain features, but nowadays, updates are critical for security. And with android continuing to increase market share, we are increasingly becoming more of a target.
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All good points but there is one thing that you arent accounting for....security updates. With each release comes with security updates and patches. Believe me, im all about stability but with an android version thats almost a year old, that is leaving us vulnerable to security vulnerabilities. Its one thing to not update for certain features, but nowadays, updates are critical for security. And with android continuing to increase market share, we are increasingly becoming more of a target.
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Security is a myth when you install apps. Out of the 100 apps I have installed, only 10% don't require permissions of some sort with WIFI or Network. The best security is being offline and turning off apps that you don't use before going online. There are a number of security apps that assist in making your OS be more secure. It is that 2 years ago nobody thought of securing Android as all the virus and malware were on the Windows platform. Even with the latest OS platforms you need apps to control firewall, file and browsing protection.
You also have the ability of watching which apps send data over network. Even though they have permissions, the apps usually perform such background data transfer for registration and troubleshooting. Avast does do a wonderful job at blocking both Network, 3G and Wifi. In fact I had been in scratching my head as to why my Directv remote would not connect to my DVR receiver after enabling the firewall and diabling Network and 3G on all my apps. Then it hit me... LOL.
As for data manipulation... most all apps need it to save settings or store data. So, for 90% of your apps, you cannot block data manipulation.
As for contacts and personal stuff... I keep that in my head, a tablet or smartphone should not have any important personal information... I have gotten over 30 years being able to recall and do my daily life's tasks very well without the need of small devices to get in the way.
If I IM, Chat or do anything social, it is on a hosted site. I never use apps to be use on any of my devices. This way my contacts are with the provider to be used only when I am using their services. This way if I am lazy with being online I have no trouble with data being shared when it is very little that I have available. Plus when it comes to cleaning out, a simple Full wipe and restore can be done weekly if I choose to without having to deal with restoring data and what not. Using the cloud is easy and trouble free when you properly use it.
True, however, security is multi tiered. 3rd party security apps, firewalls, antivirus/malware, app permissions and password protection are all examples of different tiers. However, all of those combined cannot combat security vulnerabilities within the OS itself. Android updates, like any other OS updates, provide security patches within the OS code that all the others cannot address. And as we continue to sit on older android OS with known vulnerabilities that 3rd party apps cannot fix, we only increase our chances of having those vulnerabilities exposed.
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I need 4.3 for trim ... It makes your tab faster. .. Why wouldn't any one need that?. .. Also gives Galaxy gear compatibility with the new bluetooth LE support in 4.3.... gear is more useful for the n5100 than for a note 3
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It is just the fact that guys there's not a lot of ROM development going on on Note 8.0 side (check the developer forum section, and you will know what I mean). Now if there were several 4.3 custom ROMs available, I won't even bother Samsung's official 4.3 upgrade, but there are almost none. I know that Note 8 is not quite popular device amoung the developers, thus not a lot 4.3 custom ROMs available for our Note 8.
It is funny though my almost 2 year old S3 got 4.3 upgrade, while my Note 8 still on 4.2.1 and waiting...
You're lucky, mine still have the 4.1 still no update for 4.2 I'm kinda tired waiting for the update, Im in Asia
nutstan53 said:
You're lucky, mine still have the 4.1 still no update for 4.2 I'm kinda tired waiting for the update, Im in Asia
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Same here, I'm in Portugal and the update is still just a dream... I was hoping that a high end tablet should be a priority when updating... in fact this is the only reason I regret buying the note 8 so far...
pakure said:
I need 4.3 for trim ... It makes your tab faster. .. Why wouldn't any one need that?. .. Also gives Galaxy gear compatibility with the new bluetooth LE support in 4.3.... gear is more useful for the n5100 than for a note 3
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My list of needs is much simpler. I just want a screen lag fix.
Any one know if galaxy note 8 will get official kitkat in the future ?
Thanks ..
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Same here, I'm in Portugal and the update is still just a dream... I was hoping that a high end tablet should be a priority when updating... in fact this is the only reason I regret buying the note 8 so far...
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Yea, apple beats samsung when it comes to the update because every update reaches all ios users around the globe, I wish samsung could do that too
Is Samsung done? Is Lollipop ? the last operating system iteration, we'll every see? Will we ever get the rumored 5.0.3 ( that fixes the massive memory leak many users experience) after 40 hours of on time. They say it feels laggy. But a reboot of the device fixes it.. Well, until the memory leak makes it lag again.
I myself, don't experience such lag. Any of you? Anyway, not to get off topic, is Samsung done with us?
Who knows, the way Samsung rolls out its updates seems a complicated state of affairs, with all the different versions etc they release and the amount of messing they do with the original release.
Whereas HTC release timely updates for devices that are not even flagships Samsung seems to forget it's older devices. However the way HTC release updates is much more sensible. The international and developer gets it first then the carrier versions come out and they are quick with it too.
ashyx said:
Who knows, the way Samsung rolls out its updates seems a complicated state of affairs, with all the different versions etc they release and the amount of messing they do with the original release.
Whereas HTC release timely updates for devices that are not even flagships Samsung seems to forget it's older devices. However the way HTC release updates is much more sensible. The international and developer gets it first then the carrier versions come out and they are quick with it too.
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There is nothing about HTC that is timely! Samsung has become another HTC.
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There is nothing about HTC that is timely! Samsung has become another HTC.
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You're joking, HTC rolled out lollipop for the m8 and m7 ages ago with an update to 5.1 due in August.
I wonder if Samsung, aware of the memory leak on the 5.0.2 iteration, fixed it on their own? I don't experience the lag at all. Does anyone else?
I agree, I have the HTC One M8 on 5.1 GPE for a while and I had to sideload 5.02 for the tab pro S as I had no idea when I was going to be able to get it in the UK. Samsung really need to sort it out as they will lose a lot of sales. Their after sales service in my experience is useless.
I'm thinking that Samsung will be done with us since the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 2 is coming in June ? ?
This is why I really don't care for yearly revisions to devices.
Another good question is will our version OS the Tab S ever see an Android-M release which is mentioned in today's news about the next Google IO? I'm getting my Tab S today but coming from a Nexus 10 running Lollipop 5.1.1 and will miss the ability to rapidly install the latest OS revisions that I could with a Nexus device.
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Going by Samsungs history, I'm going to say no. We didn't see lollipop ? until March. That's almost 7 months after its release. Our Samsung Galaxy Tab S was released in June. The new Tab S is going to be out in June.
Now, the OS Android-M will probably see a September rollout as well. So the Tab S 2 should probably see an update in March again of 2016.
I can't see Samsung updating Android-M for us, is in 2016.
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Going by Samsungs history, I'm going to say no. We didn't see lollipop until March. That's almost 7 months after its release. Our Samsung Galaxy Tab S was released in June. The new Tab S is going to be out in June.
Now, the OS Android-M will probably see a September rollout as well. So the Tab S 2 should probably see an update in March again of 2016.
I can't see Samsung updating Android-M for us, is in 2016.
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Samsung typically supports devices for 2 years, I don't see how Android M won't be available for us.
I had a Galaxy Tab 8.9 before this one (an S 8.4). Released about 3.5-4 years ago. That one IIRC was released (in some early markets) with 3.1, upgraded fairly quickly to 3.2. And after a good wait to 4.0.4. (roughly around the time the successor came out). After that, there was similar hoping and praying on the xda forum. But no upgrades from Samsung.
Honestly, I don't expect we will see an official 5.1. But I'm willing to bet we'll never see Android M from Samsung.
I don't know the sales figures of the Tab S, but it will probably pale in comparison to the flagship phones, which are the only ones to have reasonable (*) hope for 2 major upgrades.
Just my 2 cents
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(*) based on past evidence.
it's a pity, really, seeing how the tab S was such a jump forward in specs, compared to the Tab 2, 3, 4. You'd almost hope for a "miracle" after all.
The amazon phone just got upgraded to .... Kit Kat. So it could be a lot worse.
LOL
I had the Tab 7.7 before this. It started its life with 3.2, went through ICS and ended its life under JB 4.1.2.It sold much less than the two Tab S models combined. I believe we should expect at least one more major update, as my (admittedly small) sample of flagship Samsung devices all went through at least two major updates (P6800, I9100 and I9300).
Guys, just that you are clear, samsung (touchwiz) based roms don't face any memory leak problem. Only aosp ones
Tkkg1994 said:
Guys, just that you are clear, samsung (touchwiz) based roms don't face any memory leak problem. Only aosp ones
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Very true. The memory leak was an issue with boot animation or some sort with google/aosp roms. Samsung uses qmg and bunch of other things which isn't affected.
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Lollipop is still somewhat modern, so I don't mind using it for a while, but I hope some day there will be official Cyanogen nightlies and milestone to get rid of all the Samsung bloat.
Hey all, Im new to OPO and was curious what the general time it takes for OPO to update oxygen to the new android version? Im coming from a nexus so I was a bit spoiled and I know other big manufacturers update timeline, but not OPO
Any estimates? Nougat is really nice on my nexus and hoping it comes asap.
Thanks!!
there is no schedule for updates, it'll be slower than Nexus devices for sure.
the OP2 had a very late update to Marshmallow, most likely OP3 will have "fast" (faster than i.e. samsung/htc/huawei, slower then nexus) updates because it's OnePlus true flagship, and so for they show good support with bugs.
I have just checked and it appears that last year Oneplus 3T started receiving stable Android Oreo at 19th of November. Today we are 12th of November and we still didn't receive even a beta on Android Pie, despite Android 5T having a Project Treble support. Just to summarize:
Android Oreo stable release: 21st August 2017
Android Oreo on Oneplus 3T: 19th November 2017
Software update delay for Oneplus 3T: 91 days
Android Pie stable release: 6th August 2018
Android Pie on Oneplus 5T: Not Known
Software update delay for Oneplus 5T: 99+ days
Just for reference Android Pie was released for Oneplus 6 21st of September 2018, which makes the delay mere 47 days from the official release.
So the question is why even though we have Project Treble support we have to wait so much more to get the newest version of Android?!?
My guess would be it has something to do with overall sales, or active users using OOS. The 3T has a pretty large following. Really I'm just very happy that the 5T got tons of support from the development community. The 6 didn't even get official Lineage support. The other part of this is Treble doesn't automatically solve all update problems.
I'm looking at ordering a 6T, but I'm sort of waiting to see what kind of support the 6T gets.
I just hope we have a beta before the end of the year!
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I have just checked and it appears that last year Oneplus 3T started receiving stable Android Oreo at 19th of November. Today we are 12th of November and we still didn't receive even a beta on Android Pie, despite Android 5T having a Project Treble support. Just to summarize:
Android Oreo stable release: 21st August 2017
Android Oreo on Oneplus 3T: 19th November 2017
Software update delay for Oneplus 3T: 91 days
Android Pie stable release: 6th August 2018
Android Pie on Oneplus 5T: Not Known
Software update delay for Oneplus 5T: 99+ days
Just for reference Android Pie was released for Oneplus 6 21st of September 2018, which makes the delay mere 47 days from the official release.
So the question is why even though we have Project Treble support we have to wait so much more to get the newest version of Android?!?
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If I was OnePlus I would hold the update until after the Xmas sales hoping to boost more sales of the 6T, your less likely to want to upgrade if you have a new OS update to play with. So I'm guessing that's what the delay is due to.
Edit, to add to this, also if I was OnePlus I would be extremely concerned that the type of person that bought and is still using the 5T is going be extremely disappointed with the 6T (like me) so holding back the pie update is just a tactical move.
Oneplus is settling definitely, even the older Sony smartphones are getting their Pie update recently.
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Oneplus is settling definitely, even the older Sony smartphones are getting their Pie update recently.
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It's impressive they still have the audacity to use the "never settle" motto, since the 5T they have gone totally against their "giving user's what they want" mindset. Who asked for a a screen aspect ratio of over 18:9 and a notched display to achieve it? Nobody. Who asked for a slower less functional indisplay fingerprint scanner? Nobody.
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It's impressive they still have the audacity to use the "never settle" motto, since the 5T they have gone totally against their "giving user's what they want" mindset. Who asked for a a screen aspect ratio of over 18:9 and a notched display to achieve it? Nobody. Who asked for a slower less functional indisplay fingerprint scanner? Nobody.
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you're absolutely correct :good:
kxf41 said:
It's impressive they still have the audacity to use the "never settle" motto, since the 5T they have gone totally against their "giving user's what they want" mindset. Who asked for a a screen aspect ratio of over 18:9 and a notched display to achieve it? Nobody. Who asked for a slower less functional indisplay fingerprint scanner? Nobody.
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Did you guys see the articles about the OP7 and the 5G rollout? OP is probably going to come out with another entire lineup of phones. The higher end ones will have 5G enabled to work on US carriers that are rolling out 5G in 2019, and the lower end ones will not. The OP7, if it's called that, is going to be the lower end phone.
First I was going to upgrade to the OP6t but they took away more features than they added. The jack and no notification LED put it over the top for me...I was like ok, I'll wait for the OP7, maybe it'll be smoothed out. Turns out I might have to switch brands after I get sick of the 5t. Very slim options for a GSM phone that works on ATT with unlockable bootloader and sub $600 price. Very disappointed in OP. I know business is business, but it'll cause people like me to jump to something else.
I'm on CNP now and it's great, but i would like to be on an OOS beta of Pie instead. All in all, it's not looking good in the near future.
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All they had to do was add Pixel 2 style stereo speakers to the 5T symmetrical bezels and fit a decent vibration motor, along with the processor and camera upgrades in the 6/6T I'd have paid whatever they asked for it.
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I'm on CNP now and it's great, but i would like to be on an OOS beta of Pie instead. All in all, it's not looking good in the near future.
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same boat as you fam
oneplus has lately become another generic phone brand. they can shout "community community" in their keynote but they know they don't give a flying duck about the community. they have grown a blind fan base(not the whole community) which literally support any bad decision. these are the same folks who during 5t days were lover of headphone jack and hater of notch and now are like "oneplus notch is the better looking notch compared to others" and "tbh i don't use the headphone jack nowadays" and "the in-display FP scanner is slower but it is OK because it is so cool". always trying to come up with excuses to justify buying the device. next is oneplus tying up with carriers in the US and hiring celebs for ads in India and once brands start doing these kinda stuff you know they are going the route of becoming another generic brand. 5t is the last phone by oneplus for the community. now they are riding the success by standing on the shoulders of their community and don't give a duck about them. next watch them make bootloader unlock void warranty.
I think the problem with Oneplus is that they are actually rebranding Oppo phones, which are designed for the Chinese market as Oneplus devices. So they follow the Chinese trends in the phone design and the Chinese customers. But for me is inexplicable why they are slowing down the update cycle for their older devices. I got the impression that all their employees start working on some gimmicky features for their new phones and no one is actually working to update the older devices, which is sad. I think they should concentrate to release one device per year and don't ignore their older devices. I like the fact that they are implementing the features from their newer phones into the older devices, unlike other phone makers and more notably Pixel. Every Pixel device is coming with some exclusive features, but those features are not ported to their other Pixel phones and I would have been really pissed off if I were their customer.
and yesterday a friend of mine told me that even the Oneplus 3T has received the Android Pie upgrade in the beta channel. I am also on the beta channel and so far I am stuck on OP5T_02_Beta_19. This is really infuriating when your device isn't getting timely updates and devices older than this are getting them.
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and yesterday a friend of mine told me that even the Oneplus 3T has received the Android Pie upgrade in the beta channel. I am also on the beta channel and so far I am stuck on OP5T_02_Beta_19. This is really infuriating when your device isn't getting timely updates and devices older than this are getting them.
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I think you should write about your outrage not here, but on the official forum. In this forum, no one will help you with the update for your device, if we are talking about stock update
Don't forget that the upgrade to Android Pie has a lot of new features over Oreo, where Lollipop to Oreo wasn't that big of an update.
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Don't forget that the upgrade to Android Pie has a lot of new features over Oreo, where Lollipop to Oreo wasn't that big of an update.
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Actually because of treble the update from oreo to pie should be easier.
There is a lot of crying over nothing in this thread. The removal of the headphone jack was either due to space issues implementing or market trend or both. The notch too, trying to provide near bezel-less design, another market trend. They made the notch much smaller on the 6T trying to appease both parties.
No one asked for in-display fingerprint sensor? Just most of the tech community which Oneplus is one of the first to offer it.
The 5T still receives timely patching and system stability updates which Pie will be coming in the next few months.
God Oneplus sucks!
What's the point of having PIE if OnePlus is going to keep stuffing it full of the Analytics/Data Mining crap!
What the entire world cares less about their Privacy & Security these days?
Personally I could careless about Pie, if they're going to keep stuffing it with this rubbish!
PIE great, whenever it comes, but how about a company that cares about your Privacy & Security more and gives you a better ROM for this, rather then frilly fancies...
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What's the point of having PIE if OnePlus is going to keep stuffing it full of the Analytics/Data Mining crap!
What the entire world cares less about their Privacy & Security these days?
Personally I could careless about Pie, if they're going to keep stuffing it with this rubbish!
PIE great, whenever it comes, but how about a company that cares about your Privacy & Security more and gives you a better ROM for this, rather then frilly fancies...
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yup i agree. xiaomi rightly gets a lot of crap for their adware but somehow oneplus gets away with its data mining crap throughout their own forums, reddit and here too.
The whole point about the update situation is that the Oneplus 5T is out of stock and Oneplus doesn't make any money anymore out of it.
They said that pie beta would come last week but that was just another lie. Oneplus more and more feels like Elon Musk. Promising stuff they know they won't achieve.
If anyone thinks that they must adapt stuff and that's what makes everything complicated is just wrong. They already ported OxygenOS to Android Pie. There is nothing to adapt anymore besides a few small drivers which they have access to. That's the whole point of treble support. Essential released pie about 10 mins after Google did! Plus: The OEMs even got the source code of the first Alpha before it is officially announced, so OP must have had the first Pie Image since.....feb 2018?
Everyone should stop whining here about Pie and start spamming twitter. The official OP community is already full of unsatisfied customers.