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Is Samsung done? Is Lollipop ? the last operating system iteration, we'll every see? Will we ever get the rumored 5.0.3 ( that fixes the massive memory leak many users experience) after 40 hours of on time. They say it feels laggy. But a reboot of the device fixes it.. Well, until the memory leak makes it lag again.
I myself, don't experience such lag. Any of you? Anyway, not to get off topic, is Samsung done with us?
Who knows, the way Samsung rolls out its updates seems a complicated state of affairs, with all the different versions etc they release and the amount of messing they do with the original release.
Whereas HTC release timely updates for devices that are not even flagships Samsung seems to forget it's older devices. However the way HTC release updates is much more sensible. The international and developer gets it first then the carrier versions come out and they are quick with it too.
ashyx said:
Who knows, the way Samsung rolls out its updates seems a complicated state of affairs, with all the different versions etc they release and the amount of messing they do with the original release.
Whereas HTC release timely updates for devices that are not even flagships Samsung seems to forget it's older devices. However the way HTC release updates is much more sensible. The international and developer gets it first then the carrier versions come out and they are quick with it too.
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There is nothing about HTC that is timely! Samsung has become another HTC.
00_MACKIE_00 said:
There is nothing about HTC that is timely! Samsung has become another HTC.
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You're joking, HTC rolled out lollipop for the m8 and m7 ages ago with an update to 5.1 due in August.
I wonder if Samsung, aware of the memory leak on the 5.0.2 iteration, fixed it on their own? I don't experience the lag at all. Does anyone else?
I agree, I have the HTC One M8 on 5.1 GPE for a while and I had to sideload 5.02 for the tab pro S as I had no idea when I was going to be able to get it in the UK. Samsung really need to sort it out as they will lose a lot of sales. Their after sales service in my experience is useless.
I'm thinking that Samsung will be done with us since the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 2 is coming in June ? ?
This is why I really don't care for yearly revisions to devices.
Another good question is will our version OS the Tab S ever see an Android-M release which is mentioned in today's news about the next Google IO? I'm getting my Tab S today but coming from a Nexus 10 running Lollipop 5.1.1 and will miss the ability to rapidly install the latest OS revisions that I could with a Nexus device.
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Going by Samsungs history, I'm going to say no. We didn't see lollipop ? until March. That's almost 7 months after its release. Our Samsung Galaxy Tab S was released in June. The new Tab S is going to be out in June.
Now, the OS Android-M will probably see a September rollout as well. So the Tab S 2 should probably see an update in March again of 2016.
I can't see Samsung updating Android-M for us, is in 2016.
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Going by Samsungs history, I'm going to say no. We didn't see lollipop until March. That's almost 7 months after its release. Our Samsung Galaxy Tab S was released in June. The new Tab S is going to be out in June.
Now, the OS Android-M will probably see a September rollout as well. So the Tab S 2 should probably see an update in March again of 2016.
I can't see Samsung updating Android-M for us, is in 2016.
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Samsung typically supports devices for 2 years, I don't see how Android M won't be available for us.
I had a Galaxy Tab 8.9 before this one (an S 8.4). Released about 3.5-4 years ago. That one IIRC was released (in some early markets) with 3.1, upgraded fairly quickly to 3.2. And after a good wait to 4.0.4. (roughly around the time the successor came out). After that, there was similar hoping and praying on the xda forum. But no upgrades from Samsung.
Honestly, I don't expect we will see an official 5.1. But I'm willing to bet we'll never see Android M from Samsung.
I don't know the sales figures of the Tab S, but it will probably pale in comparison to the flagship phones, which are the only ones to have reasonable (*) hope for 2 major upgrades.
Just my 2 cents
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(*) based on past evidence.
it's a pity, really, seeing how the tab S was such a jump forward in specs, compared to the Tab 2, 3, 4. You'd almost hope for a "miracle" after all.
The amazon phone just got upgraded to .... Kit Kat. So it could be a lot worse.
LOL
I had the Tab 7.7 before this. It started its life with 3.2, went through ICS and ended its life under JB 4.1.2.It sold much less than the two Tab S models combined. I believe we should expect at least one more major update, as my (admittedly small) sample of flagship Samsung devices all went through at least two major updates (P6800, I9100 and I9300).
Guys, just that you are clear, samsung (touchwiz) based roms don't face any memory leak problem. Only aosp ones
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Guys, just that you are clear, samsung (touchwiz) based roms don't face any memory leak problem. Only aosp ones
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Very true. The memory leak was an issue with boot animation or some sort with google/aosp roms. Samsung uses qmg and bunch of other things which isn't affected.
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Lollipop is still somewhat modern, so I don't mind using it for a while, but I hope some day there will be official Cyanogen nightlies and milestone to get rid of all the Samsung bloat.
Im in sort of a mid life crisis. I currently own a Nexus 6 but I want a more beefy phone. The N6 is great and all but its starting to lag, battery is degrading, and the front camera sucks. I really like the nexus line and I have never owned a OP device. From the rumors im seeing the next nexus should be pretty damn good, so to all of you who own the OP3, are you happy with the purchase? Would you recommend buying it or should I just wait? Thanks!
I just got the OP3 and I was in the same dilemma as you. I like the nexus phones as the are pure android and will always get the security updates asap. But for me the current 6P is too big of a phone and has already been out for what, 9 months? You have to figure that going on past performance, the next generation Nexus phone won't be announced until Sept and will not be available until Oct. I didn't want to wait 4 months. Plus, the price is almost certainly going to be a lot more that $399. Having had the OP3 for a week, I know I made the right decision.
No mistake about it, if you buy the OnePlus 3 then you will be buying a premium phone. From the build to the cases, it's top notch.
Don't think that the lower price means a compromise. It's sleek, powerful and most importantly the OS is stable and well supported by the company. No bloatware..
When Nexus comes out you will be waiting for next Galaxy
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I love Nexus but...
OnePlus really has done it with the OP3. It really could be the best damn phone ever! Build, OS and dev support is up there with Nexus and I honestly would say I like the OP3 way better than my wife's S7. Honestly. I love it. I have owned Samsung's, nexus and OPO, OP2 and now OP3 and this is by far the best of them all. And the cherry on top for me is OFFICIAL Slimrom support on the way.
Oh, and dash charge.. how the hell did I ever live with out it???
well I sold my 6p for this baby then will probably get the next nexus or whatever google throws at us. depending if it's worth it tho
Hello everyone!
I've being rocking my Xperia M2 for the past two years and now I have a great price offer from my carrier(provider?) for the Nexus 5x. It's really tempting and I my bite. But doing my research I came across few concerns, primary the performance and the forced encryption.
I want to ask, how is the performance with the latest patches from Google? Does decrypting the phone really speeds it up a lot? And if it does, what is the newest and easiest method to decrypt a brand new unused phone (without any user data to worry about)? Also, does decrypting affect OTAs? And a bonus question: Is the phone worth it being my first Nexus experience with stock Android, especially when the next Nexus devices are just around the corner?
I've being searching for answers this past weekend, but most info I find is kinda old and outdated. All the help is appreciated!
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Hello everyone!
I've being rocking my Xperia M2 for the past two years and now I have a great price offer from my carrier(provider?) for the Nexus 5x. It's really tempting and I my bite. But doing my research I came across few concerns, primary the performance and the forced encryption.
I want to ask, how is the performance with the latest patches from Google? Does decrypting the phone really speeds it up a lot? And if it does, what is the newest and easiest method to decrypt a brand new unused phone (without any user data to worry about)? Also, does decrypting affect OTAs? And a bonus question: Is the phone worth it being my first Nexus experience with stock Android, especially when the next Nexus devices are just around the corner?
I've being searching for answers this past weekend, but most info I find is kinda old and outdated. All the help is appreciated!
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Hi bro,
I received my Nexus 5x 2 days ago for a nice price (249€) and its a beast !! I noticed no lags, I played Fifa 16 smoothly... Before the 5x, i had a Galaxy Grand prime which has almost the same SOC of your M2 (Snapdragon 410) and i noticed a big improvement in terms of performance. For the encryption i can't answer... sorry Stock android is gorgeous, no bloatware, pure experience. The 5x is also my first Nexus Experience and i think it's worth for you bc the next Nexus will release at +450€.
Hope a helped a little
You dont need to decrypt in my opinion but its easy to do if you choose to go that way. Loving my 5X (since Nov last year) and I came from a Sony Xperia SP so the difference is humongous.
Stock android is lovely but you can always add on stuff you miss from old ROM's or go full custom ROM.
Build is decent enough and screen and camera is lovely with a decent case on (went with the adopted frost from google) you dont notice the plasticky buttons at all and its great to use.
Id love a new nexus but if you can get the 5X for a decent price then by all means you wont regret it, EOL for updates is nov next year I believe so we still have a while to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/unencrypted-faster-real-world-usage-t3365660
Hello,
I'm interested into buying this phone but a thing that matters highly to me is to have the latest Android.
So I ask you guys, if you have more experience with oneplus, how's the speed of updates and stability?
I saw that oneplus 2 got the mm update only one month ago?
That's unacceptable to me..
If you want the most up-to-date version of Android with security patches then the OnePlus is not gonna cut it for you. The only devices that get speedy updates are Nexus devices. That is one of the main reasons I switched to a Nexus. I love pure Android and being able to receive the latest version of Android is great. The support that Google provides Nexus devices is awesome. I have a Nexus 6 that I use everyday as well as a 6P to play with. The 6 and 6P are both solid devices. I'm ready for the 2016 Nexus to be released later this year. Grab a Nexus device and you will not be disappointed. Good luck on your choice.
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Don't buy a oneplus phone ever in your life. I am regretting every bit of my decision to buy a oneplus 3! You need proof? Check oneplus forums and issues faced by people and no response by oneplus team
Love my OnePlus 3! You dont need updates fast, if u want that, then root or buy a nexus!
If you look on update for the oneplus 2, stable update are out kind of late, way later than a nexus device of course but before some major phone manufacturer like LG or Samsung (but it depends on the device for each manufacturer). If the update is important go for a nexus phone. My old nexus 4 goes all the way from Kit kat to lollipop 5.1.1 and officially because with CM it got Marshmallow on nightly build.
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Don't buy a oneplus phone ever in your life. I am regretting every bit of my decision to buy a oneplus 3! You need proof? Check oneplus forums and issues faced by people and no response by oneplus team
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Bull****.
Although Oneplus has yet to prove that their service and update policy - which always left much to be desired - has gotten better, they already reacted well to user complaints and issued already 2 updates. My RMA also went smoothly.
With LG, for instance, I had worse experiences.
There will be bug fixes and updates every so often.Theres Been two ota updates for one plus 3 since it's release.Not bad,but these updates still have loads of bugs.
It will be a long time before oxygen is is stable on the op3.Still if u like to root and play around with ROMs.There are plenty of options and the one plus 3 is an awesome device
if you are picky and feel an update is most important to you yeah go with Nexus but despite others issues have had owned 4 devices and the problems as small as they are were not worth all the crying I see in here. Yeah I had a Nexus and Samsung as well which all had there quirks. Like mentioned rooting will keep you on top of whatever it is you want to be on top of
Nobody knows how the update experience is going to be for this device. Obviously, if we look at history, things aren't looking too hopeful.
I feel OnePlus is much more on top of their game with this device though. As others have said, the device has only been out around a month and OnePlus has already released a handful of timely updates. One of these updates directly addressed complaints about the phone's RAM management and display calibration. OnePlus had their reasons for the way they configured RAM management and the display, but had no issue with making adjustments to satisfy their customers. I have nothing but respect for them as a company for making that move.
Some are making complaints about the phone having some bugs, but they are few and far between amongst the vast majority of phones (a handful of forum posts don't represent the vast majority). I, personally, only experience the silent notifications bug sporadically...other than that the phone has been perfect. These bugs will surely be addressed in further updates.
If the next Nexus is priced as competitively as phones like the OP3 and the Axon 7, I'll surely be going with one. However, if it is priced like last year's ($499 for 32gb), I'll be hanging onto my OP3.
m_usmanayub said:
Don't buy a oneplus phone ever in your life. I am regretting every bit of my decision to buy a oneplus 3! You need proof? Check oneplus forums and issues faced by people and no response by oneplus team
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What issues? Those people seem trolls or noobs. Every device has issues upon launch. If you have hardware issues then open Paypal claims. My device has been perfect so far and I don't care about speed of updates because I have rooted it and can Install CM any time I like.
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Hello!
I'm a Nexus 5X user and I was looking forward to the Pixel announcement as I'm sure most Nexus users were, and I almost had a heart attack seeing the price . I've grown tired of my plastic-y slab of lacklustre performance and want a change.
So I ask you (guessing theres probably a lot of ex-Nexus users here), is the Oneplus 3 worth switching? Or should I hang off and wait for what Oneplus has in-store for next year?
Thanks in advance!
i had a nexus 5 before. i switched to OP3 and this was the best decision ever
Camera (ISO levels and shutterspeed) and updates are better on the 5x.
All the rest the OP3 wins.
I'm coming from a nexus 6 was waiting for the launch of the new pixel phone, and I just new Google would balls this one up. So last week I ordered my opo3 and should be with me before the 10th of this month. Little sad to see the nexus go but I'll be moving on ?
I too am a 5x owner and was anxiously awaiting the Pixel phones. Was looking forward to a nicer design and features that should come with a higher price tag. Big disappointment! The Pixels offer nothing remotely close to making them worth the price asked. Ordered a OP3 yesterday and am looking forward to it arriving later this month.
I moved on from my Nexus 6 and couldn't be happier! This is one bad ass phone!
Made this same jump myself - the only thing you'll miss is the photo quality (more so in low light)
Performance is significantly better
Hey all, highjacking the thread a little...
I'm now using the N6P, which is great, but I like to change phones once a year, just for a change of scenery if you will.
Pixel phones are not attractive to me, so I'm thinking OPO3 (well, was thinking Note 7, but well....sounds like not the best option yet).
Anybody did this? I know it will be mostly a lateral "upgrade", both are possibly same same on many levels, but I also like the possibility of MIUI for a change from time to time.
oh, and really need to be able to have some XDA fun, so this is good too for that ^^
I'm thinking of coming from an iPhone 6s, as want to come back to android. My wife has a 5X and it's great, but I think the OnePlus 3 edges it with the performance. I think I'll miss the 6s's battery life and camera, but from the looks of it, there's not too much to worry about, right?
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Hey all, highjacking the thread a little...
I'm now using the N6P, which is great, but I like to change phones once a year, just for a change of scenery if you will.
Pixel phones are not attractive to me, so I'm thinking OPO3 (well, was thinking Note 7, but well....sounds like not the best option yet).
Anybody did this? I know it will be mostly a lateral "upgrade", both are possibly same same on many levels, but I also like the possibility of MIUI for a change from time to time.
oh, and really need to be able to have some XDA fun, so this is good too for that ^^
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Definitely worth it going from an 810 to an 820 is way better and the performance is amazing and I also had a 6P as well.
really worth upgrade. used few weeks while my op3 was at rma, nexus 5x compared to op3 really laggy, worse screen, battery life is also worse on n5x. Only one advantage of 5x is pure stock android with blazing fast updates.