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Hi everyone
I know that forums have many forums about this but i want advices more specific.
Well, i want to buy a Nexus 7 2013 tablet because i consider that has a good specs for the price (less than $200) (could be my first Nexus device), searching i founded the posibility to buy one not used on eBay (new, apparently).
I read and investigate more, and i founded two big questions.
1. I know that google stopped the suport (stuck on 5.1.1), also i found some Marshmallow ROMs here, works well and stable? is complicated to make all the process (bootloader, recovery, root, flashing)?
2. A few months ago i look in the web about a "Sudden Death" that occurs in lollipop, does that solution? i don´t have official support in my country for repairs, therefore i think is a big risk for me. Installing a custom Marshmallow ROMs avoid the problem?
Thanks for reading
Grettings
R32SIX said:
Hi everyone
I know that forums have many forums about this but i want advices more specific.
Well, i want to buy a Nexus 7 2013 tablet because i consider that has a good specs for the price (less than $200) (could be my first Nexus device), searching i founded the posibility to buy one not used on eBay (new, apparently).
I read and investigate more, and i founded two big questions.
1. I know that google stopped the suport (stuck on 5.1.1), also i found some Marshmallow ROMs here, works well and stable? is complicated to make all the process (bootloader, recovery, root, flashing)?
2. A few months ago i look in the web about a "Sudden Death" that occurs in lollipop, does that solution? i don´t have official support in my country for repairs, therefore i think is a big risk for me. Installing a custom Marshmallow ROMs avoid the problem?
Thanks for reading
Grettings
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You're mistaken. Google officially updated the N7 2013 and LTE model to Marshmallow.
See for yourself.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
These days, depending on condition, you can find a Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi for about $100-130 US. I personally wouldn't speed more than a $100 for a used Nexus 7 2013.
Bootloader unlocking, rooting, and flashing roms is a pretty simple thing to do on a Nexus device. If you have trouble, you can always read the many guides provided on these forums.
My N7 2013 has good days and bad days. Depending on the rom/kernel you use, it can still be a great tablet. The screen is still fantastic too. But $200 is too much for sure.
I would say yes for sure. Just make sure you buy a good one. There's a lot of faulty Nexus 7 out there.
$200 is too much
I'd recommend the Nvidia Shield Tablet K1 at this point. I just finally got mine recently and the extra speed and battery life are well worth it. And it is only $200, and with Nvidia's frequent updates, its nearly a nexus.
Ditto about the price. I bought mine used with case & charger for $90.00.
My N7-2013 got official OTA 6.0 update and went into bootloop. Then I installed CM ROM and never looked back.
Maverick-DBZ- said:
You're mistaken. Google officially updated the N7 2013 and LTE model to Marshmallow.
See for yourself.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
These days, depending on condition, you can find a Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi for about $100-130 US. I personally wouldn't speed more than a $100 for a used Nexus 7 2013.
Bootloader unlocking, rooting, and flashing roms is a pretty simple thing to do on a Nexus device. If you have trouble, you can always read the many guides provided on these forums.
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Thanks for fix me, in fact, for less $150 i can found it
gman88667733 said:
My N7 2013 has good days and bad days. Depending on the rom/kernel you use, it can still be a great tablet. The screen is still fantastic too. But $200 is too much for sure.
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How long you got? Does the battery talk much of their autonomy?
Thmstec said:
I'd recommend the Nvidia Shield Tablet K1 at this point. I just finally got mine recently and the extra speed and battery life are well worth it. And it is only $200, and with Nvidia's frequent updates, its nearly a nexus.
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I do not trust much in Nvidia, after having a Sony with Tegra 2 i would not use portable devices with chipsets Nvidia again
I had a N7 2013 when it was released , then I sold it for an iPad. Bad choice . Went back to N7 and still loving it . Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 2013 are by far the best devices created . I got it for $105 , and it was in 10/10 mint condition. GO FOR IT
I think it still is the best 7 inch tablet out there. It has an excellent screen. I use it for reading, for browing, for watching videos and it is perfect. Sometimes i never use my desktop the whole day. Marshmallow update is pretty good but propably the last major update. But surely xda developers will give it the N version of Android. I have mine with a magnetic case which is very convenient. And also there are some good custom roms if you dont want to stay to the official like PureNexus which is extremely good, cm, omni and others.
I'm honestly not sure which phone to choose.
May you roll up some personal views on the matter?
Because right now I am using both phones every second day, and I really can't make up my mind regarding this matter.. So listening to someone else would help.
Im facing that the software on the nexus 5x and the ability to customize it so much more is a huge adventage, however the S6 got some great specs.
So yeh.
Opinions please, if that's allowed to ask for here I would gladly appreciate a nice discussion with personal opinions
Regards!
Wish it were that simple that we could say "sure that's easy go with the 5X" and you'd be as happy as a clam by choosing what we suggest you pick. Since that's not reality only you can decide. You use both phones why can't you decide? Honestly, what can we offer that would sway you one way or the other? Do you really want to base your decision off of what 'we' say rather than 'your own experience' using both devices? Honest questions
I had an S6 from August to this past January before I traded it for a 5x. There are a few things I miss, such as the extra bright screen and overall build quality. The S6 camera is definitely more detailed and faster as well, but I prefer the low light performance of the 5x by far.
All in all, I'm much happier with the 5x as I prefer stock Android vs Touchwiz and being first to get the latest updates.
I'm completely fed up with touchwiz and all of the bloat on Samsung phones. It got to be as bad as HTC sense. And unless you have the newest model of a flagship phone, you are most likely not going to get an update. I have been very pleased with my 5x and no contract and $300 for a brand new phone, I couldn't pass it up.
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Nexus. Always Nexus. I have no patience any more for manufacturer's and carrier's crapware. Give me pure, stock Android running on the current reference device.
I am picking me up an s6 for $200 then to decide which is work phone and which will be personal phone.
jbdan said:
Wish it were that simple that we could say "sure that's easy go with the 5X" and you'd be as happy as a clam by choosing what we suggest you pick. Since that's not reality only you can decide. You use both phones why can't you decide? Honestly, what can we offer that would sway you one way or the other? Do you really want to base your decision off of what 'we' say rather than 'your own experience' using both devices? Honest questions
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I get your point here, I do. But my personal experience varies so much, and I'm afraid there are things i've overseen the last 9 days of having them both available. Fingerprint location, build quality, camera features, screen brightness and contrast, saturation etc... so many things on them both that varies, but still makes them good their own way. Software updates, that's a good one mentioned.
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I had an S6 from August to this past January before I traded it for a 5x. There are a few things I miss, such as the extra bright screen and overall build quality. The S6 camera is definitely more detailed and faster as well, but I prefer the low light performance of the 5x by far.
All in all, I'm much happier with the 5x as I prefer stock Android vs Touchwiz and being first to get the latest updates.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. After a day of using the nexus, I kind of miss the metal edges on the S6 and the performance which makes the experience butter-smooth. After a day using the S6 I miss the clean Android, the fingerprint-scanner on the back and the amazing low light shots with the camera.
So... gosh im confused.
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Nexus. Always Nexus. I have no patience any more for manufacturer's and carrier's crapware. Give me pure, stock Android running on the current reference device.
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Unless you trip KNOX and flash custom ROMs - CM is in development, however the exynos chipset seems to be a pain in the ass.
Anyway, thanks everyone. I take all this in consideration and I will keep it in mind when using them both. Hopefully i'll sort out my mind soon.
Keeping it short. Had the s6, it sucked. Hard...
Great build and specs, worthless reception and horrible batterylife. So even though I loved the rest, the basics sucked. The nexus 5x is great, but awfull feel. I hate plastic. But all the rest is awsome. So sticking with it for now.
Wishing you luck !
I'd go with the 6P haha
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Keeping it short. Had the s6, it sucked. Hard...
Great build and specs, worthless reception and horrible batterylife. So even though I loved the rest, the basics sucked. The nexus 5x is great, but awfull feel. I hate plastic. But all the rest is awsome. So sticking with it for now.
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Thanks for the interpretation. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone judging the plasty feel of it. The vibration aswell, sounds like a child's toy.
Currently using the 5x and got stunned over the well performing battery. Already got 5 h with screen on, using a custom kernel and a few tweaks
That was another point... I'm not into flashing roms on Nexus devices (as I like stock Android) but I had planned to flash CM on the S6. Not researching this before my purchase was a big mistake as I had no idea about the drama with Samsung Exynos chips not being open sourced.. CM will probably never be up to snuff on the S6.
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I get your point here, I do. But my personal experience varies so much, and I'm afraid there are things i've overseen the last 9 days of having them both available. Fingerprint location, build quality, camera features, screen brightness and contrast, saturation etc... so many things on them both that varies, but still makes them good their own way. Software updates, that's a good one mentioned.
Thanks for sharing your experience. After a day of using the nexus, I kind of miss the metal edges on the S6 and the performance which makes the experience butter-smooth. After a day using the S6 I miss the clean Android, the fingerprint-scanner on the back and the amazing low light shots with the camera.
So... gosh im confused.
Unless you trip KNOX and flash custom ROMs - CM is in development, however the exynos chipset seems to be a pain in the ass.
Anyway, thanks everyone. I take all this in consideration and I will keep it in mind when using them both. Hopefully i'll sort out my mind soon.
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MatthewPresley said:
That was another point... I'm not into flashing roms on Nexus devices (as I like stock Android) but I had planned to flash CM on the S6. Not researching this before my purchase was a big mistake as I had no idea about the drama with Samsung Exynos chips not being open sourced.. CM will probably never be up to snuff on the S6.
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Just to answer you - The way it looks now (I've been closely paying attention) it seems like the development is going forward with the CM build for s6. It will be at least usable pretty soon. Well, it's a guess because they need to reverse engineer the stuff on the phone.
Compared to the nexus devices it's rediclious. I tested cm13 on my 5x and got stunned. So many possibilities and I must confess that I'm obsessed with flashing roms and stuff. That's kind of the reason I chose to buy my nexus. That's probably the best thing ever
Hello!
I'm a Nexus 5X user and I was looking forward to the Pixel announcement as I'm sure most Nexus users were, and I almost had a heart attack seeing the price . I've grown tired of my plastic-y slab of lacklustre performance and want a change.
So I ask you (guessing theres probably a lot of ex-Nexus users here), is the Oneplus 3 worth switching? Or should I hang off and wait for what Oneplus has in-store for next year?
Thanks in advance!
i had a nexus 5 before. i switched to OP3 and this was the best decision ever
Camera (ISO levels and shutterspeed) and updates are better on the 5x.
All the rest the OP3 wins.
I'm coming from a nexus 6 was waiting for the launch of the new pixel phone, and I just new Google would balls this one up. So last week I ordered my opo3 and should be with me before the 10th of this month. Little sad to see the nexus go but I'll be moving on ?
I too am a 5x owner and was anxiously awaiting the Pixel phones. Was looking forward to a nicer design and features that should come with a higher price tag. Big disappointment! The Pixels offer nothing remotely close to making them worth the price asked. Ordered a OP3 yesterday and am looking forward to it arriving later this month.
I moved on from my Nexus 6 and couldn't be happier! This is one bad ass phone!
Made this same jump myself - the only thing you'll miss is the photo quality (more so in low light)
Performance is significantly better
Hey all, highjacking the thread a little...
I'm now using the N6P, which is great, but I like to change phones once a year, just for a change of scenery if you will.
Pixel phones are not attractive to me, so I'm thinking OPO3 (well, was thinking Note 7, but well....sounds like not the best option yet).
Anybody did this? I know it will be mostly a lateral "upgrade", both are possibly same same on many levels, but I also like the possibility of MIUI for a change from time to time.
oh, and really need to be able to have some XDA fun, so this is good too for that ^^
I'm thinking of coming from an iPhone 6s, as want to come back to android. My wife has a 5X and it's great, but I think the OnePlus 3 edges it with the performance. I think I'll miss the 6s's battery life and camera, but from the looks of it, there's not too much to worry about, right?
kipue said:
Hey all, highjacking the thread a little...
I'm now using the N6P, which is great, but I like to change phones once a year, just for a change of scenery if you will.
Pixel phones are not attractive to me, so I'm thinking OPO3 (well, was thinking Note 7, but well....sounds like not the best option yet).
Anybody did this? I know it will be mostly a lateral "upgrade", both are possibly same same on many levels, but I also like the possibility of MIUI for a change from time to time.
oh, and really need to be able to have some XDA fun, so this is good too for that ^^
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Definitely worth it going from an 810 to an 820 is way better and the performance is amazing and I also had a 6P as well.
really worth upgrade. used few weeks while my op3 was at rma, nexus 5x compared to op3 really laggy, worse screen, battery life is also worse on n5x. Only one advantage of 5x is pure stock android with blazing fast updates.
Hi guys !
I was plaining to buy a nexus5x in the last 4 mounths , but I hesitated a lot especially after the bootloop problem that a lot of people are claiming to have on their phones.
the reason that I wanted a nexus5x is basically the low price , besides the fact that it's a great phone with amazing specs + I already had a Smsung Tab A(6)(free) so I tought it would be wiser to keep it and buy a nexus 5x, instead of sealling it and spend all the money on a galaxy s7 or somthing like it.
So what do u think is the best choice :
to keep the Tab + buy nexus 5x(just a 16gb is available , with no warranty so if it brokes I'm done !!!)
or
to buy the s7
and thanks to all
The answer to the question whether Nexus 5X is still worth it depends on the price you pay for it. I got mine last summer for just 240USD and I still think it was worth it. It has a bright screen with objectively proven accurate colors. It has a very good photo camera and an extremely fast fingerprint reader. It has a very lean ROM, and very frequent monthly updates. The Nexus 5X was the first smartphone to receive the Nougat update (along with other Nexus devices). Even today, the only device that can challenge the Nexus 5X in the price-performance ratio (in USA at least) is the Huawei Honor 8.
Compare it to what else you can get for the same price. I'm still enjoying mine after over a year but there are different options to choose from at this point.
I just got my nexus 5x 2 weeks ago. and if you ask me i will say you that go for it man, its amazing device with less money. S7 is great too but you have to pay more for that, and what i love abt nexus 5x is its stock android and frequent updates if u are a stock android lover and want your phone to be updated than nexus 5x is for you.
Its not worth it. Trust me, the parts to fix it are expensive, it heata up during summer like crazy. The back is made of crap material and overall battery life while active is terrible. Get the OP3 or OP3T if you can. I should have bought that, but I was impatient so I opted for this crappy device
As others have said, it really depends on what you pay. I'm loving mine. I've had no problems so far, battery is acceptable, and running Nougat without problem. I couldn't ask for more from a device which I paid only $300 USD for.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3
( Kenzo) The snapdragon variant. Lots of development.
Thanks
KnieveI
16GB isn't worth it unless you're getting it for like $100.
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Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
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that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
ulxerker said:
that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
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Yes, I agree, it worked very well before the problem.
Here you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izdD7l3BWY
Satisfied, and it is still a decent device. But if you are a heavy user with so many apps and multitasking requirements, I'd advise against it as a daily driver.
Yes. After more than a month of use, updated to 7.1.1 and jan security update, so far no problem. This one is my daily driver.
For the "right" price of course. You should try and negotiate.
I can buy three Pixels with my budget, but Im not considering changing my 5x as a daily driver yet. Using it since jan 2016, not a single issue except for the back cover getting dirty easily. Light, not too big not too small, not expensive, powerful enough for almost any task, great display, decent stereo speakers with mod, accurate GPS, good battery life with 7.1.1, always up to date, durable and impressive cameras.
Theres no better smartphone on the market IMO, of course depending on your wishes, you wont need anything other that N5X cannot offer.
It depends on who you are. A heavy user playing games, having a tens of apps opened or rather a decent one with social/media focus? This being a good device for sorta a middle demanding user. It's still got very good camera, vanilla Android, regular updates, good dimensions etc... Speaking for myself, I've always been happy with it. It just fits my needs
It depends!
i have this device from 1 month! it not so much time .. but enought for test it in deep.
the value depends on how much money you will spend!
because the 5x have some deficiencies compare with over middle range! display - battery - audio-ram is under the average!
although the cpu is a very good compromise: good performance and very low heat! and the camera is very very good too!
take your sum but i suggest to look something else and more future-proof ( mininum 3 gb of ram )
ps. I bought it because a friend of mine gave it to me for 100 euro 32 gb hehehehe and it have just 5 months. DD
It is a good phone unless you have unreasonable expectations. Works good for me
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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JovieBrett said:
Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
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I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
My opinion: just buy it If you like the stock android with quick updates, and modding/custom rom
If so, it's excellent, great screen, great camera, a lot of community roms/mods so you cant get bored...
But If you are not going to enjoy that you better go to other option
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
Well, I got it for £200 and it is way worth the money. I think it's okay as a daily driver, but if you had the money - get the Pixel. It's just.. better. If the Pixel is a bit too much maybe get the Nexus 6P. It's an upgrade from this although personally I find 5.2" to be a perfect phone size, and alas the Pixel only comes in 5" and 5.5".
I'm using this as a daily driver with the following, it is still fast and amazing:
Pixel ROM (6.1)
F2FS Data & Cache Partitions
Adaway
Franco Kernel (r32)
SuperSU (SR3)
Naptime (Disable Motion, Instant Doze, and Exclude Fit)
L Speed (LNET Tweaked for Mobile Data, Disabled Debugging, and KSM Enable)
FKUpdator for HawkTail1.2 Governer
Thermal Throttling changed to 46 Degrees Celcius
XThermal Mod (for Charging)
Substratum for "Swift Dark Theme (7.1.1)"
TWRP Classic 3.0.2-2
UX Sound Mod (Final + HiFi)
My short answer No, do not buy. I was debating the Moto G4 Plus versus Nexus 5x last November and purchased the Nexus. It is impossible to say whether I would have liked the Moto better or not but I would research alternative phones before purchasing.
My longer answer is that the Nexus 5x works fairly well but often feels laggy, especially if you have too many chrome browser tabs open. Task switching often feels like my old memory constrained Windows 7 desktop computer. This is without playing any games or loading the Facebook app. These statements are made while running totally stock with the 7.0 OS release without any skins or launchers or widgets loaded. Also I might be primarily commenting on software issues with the Chrome Browser rather than the device itself but when on slow Wi-Fi or 3G connections I sometimes experienced greater than one second User Interface glitches when switching between apps or even getting the on screen keyboard to load in order to type. This all happened while on a long vacation/travel where internet access was often bandwidth constrained. Still I found the user experience to be poor even under good network conditions. I kept a few communications/text-chat apps loaded along with the browser and email and occasionally used some banking or calculator or news apps, enough that memory had to be reclaimed which appeared to be the biggest source of the UI pauses.
To add a little more context I purchased the 5x to replace my Asus Zenfone 2 after its wifi interface had died. The Zenfone 2 had 4 GB of memory and always task switched with ease and never felt laggy (though it was not a speed demon) even though it had a heavier skin. My old Nexus 4 was very SRAM constrained which eventually caused me to upgrade but it never felt as unresponsive as the newer 5x.
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
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Then that's great for you your phone is running good 'til now. It just happened nougat is currently rolling out the time more and more users are getting affected because the older the phone, the more it's getting to an end, that's why lots of users feels like nougat is the problem when hardware is the fault itself, google and LG already declared their statement about it.