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Opinions needed!! Coming from a motorola milestone should I upgrade?

Hi All,
I currently have a Motorola Milestone (international version of the droid) and I was wondering if I should update to the Galaxy Nexus. Acknowledging the fact that I can only classify my phone as "usable" if I have a rom which runs Froyo and is overclocked from 550mhz to 1GHz (The Froyo Mod by 89luca89). As a result of these tweaks and the overclock, my phone only lasts about 6-7 hours with a considerable amount of usage which is far to little for my expectations. I live in Canada and if I were to get a new phone it would at least be on a 2 year contract on Bell. Looking at the specs of the Galaxy Nexus it doesn't compare too much above the competition, and in terms of raw specs I believe that some competitors could easily surpass the performance of the Galaxy Nexus which essentially means that eventually, it won't be as great and would compare to other products (e.g. iPhone 2G against iPhone 4).
Okay, so at this point it seems as though I have made my decision to wait for longer but....
Although the Galaxy Nexus compared to a lot of the other competition seems to have underwhelming specs, it is still the first ice cream sandwich phone which Google and Samsung collaborated upon which means that the software would be tailored specifically for the hardware and vice versa. Also, I believe that the developer base would probably be extremely huge because of the number of consumers purchasing this product and the huge interest for developers with the newest version of Android. ( I mean look at the Nexus One!) Now another probem that I see with the Galaxy Nexus is that the GPU is 4 years outdated so it might not be the best phone to get but then again how many games do you really play on your phone? (I think the GPU is identical to the GPU in the Nexus S but apparently the processor is more-so tailored for multitasking and better performance, but not gaming)
As you can clearly see I'm at cross-roads and I seriously need some opinions.
My question to you guys is:
Should I get the Galaxy Nexus (on Bell's network) when it comes out in Canada or should I wait for a successor or a faster alternative such as the Samsung Galaxy S3.
Thanks, and your opinions are greatly appreciated

every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it

If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome

Shadow_Android said:
If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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specs are only part of a phone, motorola likes locking down their phones pretty tight, and god knows how they will provide updates

slowz3r said:
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
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I don't mind spending the money at all but I'm just afraid that it will get outdated too quickly because of the specs
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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The specs are pretty similar to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'd assume that the Galaxy Nexus would have much more developers which is good for me because I love mods, themes, roms, etc. Also I honestly don't want to wait that long to get ice cream sandwich and also motorola might ruin the entire experience if they add blur.
Thanks for your opinions guys, I think it is fairly evident that I am heading towards the Nexus Prime I probably have to wait for a very long time though since I don't think a GSM version with LTE will be available on Bell's network that fast

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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1

SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.

SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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Yeah now I'm like 95% sure I'm going for the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus
drae52 said:
This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
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I wouldn't get the GS2 though I would rather go for something like the Rezound just because it seems like old news now But I'm now debating whether fire power is more important or a higher developer base (in terms of both apps and roms) and newer OS

search for my post on the sub par hardware thread in the GN general forums. u will be convinced.

If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.

I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying

BrianDigital said:
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
kanariya said:
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
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It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising

mohitrocks said:
But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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It's all up to you for what you think is more important.
I would take the pure Android experience, guaranteed timely updates over better spec on paper. The real world performance might be differ as ICS is optimized for the OMAP instead of the Exynos.
I would still take my Nexus S over any non Nexus device out there on the market today.

There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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shadow65781 said:
There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.

Dragooon123 said:
Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
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Agreed. I really do hate TouchWiz with a passion.

I flashed CM7 on my SGS2 and loving it over the stock TW rom, also if there are some bugs (like BT sleep problem, and headphone volume that don't go higher than 50% closed source thinghs) but is blazing fast and customizable.
I will never go back again on stock Sams rom, that's why I'm getting a Nexus also if I'm disappointed on the hardware part.
For sure the sgs3 will be a kick ass, but sgs2 buyer's know that some battery eating bugs was solved from developers, after several months (Android OS process).
Well these is my opinion I can be wrong against some of you for sure, but as someone sayd I prefer flexibility and customisation over pure power, and I don't play games on a phone, so for me the Nexus is a must this year.
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How future-proof is the Galaxy Nexus?

Hey everyone!
My qyestion is how future proof the Galaxy Nexus is. Im not talking about gaming or things like that, I just wonder if the hardware is capable of 1-2 major versions of Android and if the dualcore lasts that long?

Who knows where phones will be in the future. Many phones that were released in 2010/2011 can run ICS easily. These phones are powerful devices and will be future proof for a while. Just enjoy what you have today which is probably the best Android device to date.

retskrad said:
Hey everyone!
My qyestion is how future proof the Galaxy Nexus is. Im not talking about gaming or things like that, I just wonder if the hardware is capable of 1-2 major versions of Android and if the dualcore lasts that long?
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Not future-proof at all.
Everybody knows that, when the aliens establish first contact this year and bring us the gift of positronic computing, our complete technology will be outdated by the factor 10.000. Your GN will be useless after this.

The Galaxy Nexus will feel like a dinosaur in 2 years. Wait a few more months for this years crop of phones to be released. Some of them already put the GN to shame.
Modern tech gets old quickly. Be happy with what you get and don't read up on any new stuff once you get it or you'll feel buyers remorse every day.
Enjoy whatever you decide to purchase

With much luck, we will have updates for longer than 2 years. My old milestone had got 1 year updates. So the nexus is relatively future-proof compared to other phones because it is directly driven with updates by Google.

The GNEX's future in this regard is great compared to all Android phones available today.
The hardware will be outdated soon.. but not so much for it to become obsolete any in the upcoming 2 years.
The GNEX's 720p screen will hold out a long time, probably will be topped after the GS III is released. staying the 2nd best for a long time.
The softkeys design, i'm not sure how or if other Android will follow such design soon. But it's kind of a "futuristic" feature in the GNEX (the ultimate phone in the far future will have one hell of a bezel-less screen all in one piece)
Another very important thing, is the Jellybean OS.
Just look at how great things recently been for long time Nexus S users. They received an official ICS release before any other phone of it's age.. making the Nexus S better in some areas than newly introduced high-end Gingerbread phones. It's going to be the same with the Galaxy Nexus, probably receiving JB OS before other new phones then and reviving it's usability.

THINK of it this way. The Nexus One was super future proof. Lasted through a few different versions of Android. Started with Eclair and ended with the latest version of Gingerbread, and I'm sure there is dev work to get the thing running ICS. I'd say that like every other Nexus phone, it should last through a minimum of 2 full versions of Android. So in my theory the Galaxy Nexus should last up to at least December 2013 - January 2014, if not longer. Then again technology doubles every 2 years so maybe it might be the end of the road once Dec 2013 rolls around when the letter "K" Android operating system expects to launch.

just what i was gonna say! the Nexus One lasted 2.1 to 2.3 flawlessly! 3 total android versions (and i bet ICS will work just as good on it when its ready)....the Nexus S was 2.3 and now 4.0......ICS is for dual core phones but the Nexus S still runs it super nicely! I have no doubt it be running the "J" software flawlessly as well! the Galaxy Nexus should last a good 2 years! that is why Nexus phones are the way to go, in my opinion......none of this "ill wait for the next phone" BS that people keep putting themselves thru! U can have your quad core bullshi*, but without the software, it wont matter!

The answer is none of them are future proof.
It should hold up perfectly find and have excellent developer support for at least the next 2 years. More than most other general release phones. Considering most of the good stuff (Galaxy 3) wont' be released state side until fall if we are lucky the nexus will be top dog for a long time.

Why not put it this way... the screen and/or plastic casing are more likely to go before the Galaxy Nexus cannot be supported in a future OS update.
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Hardware, no of course not. No hardware is future proof.
Firmware, not only will we get the newest Android versions, we will get it FIRST.
Last year I told my cousin to buy a Nexus S, she was always happy with it. She is NOT a phone geek like we are.. So ICS gets pushed ota to her in Dec2011 (Nexus S got first ICS ota of any phone), I call her and say "expect to recieve a big update to your phone soon" she says back to me, "I already got it, it's like I have a BRAND NEW PHONE!!" end of story.

Google itself said all phones will get updates till 18 mo. Whether it gets crapped up by carrier OEM policies or not,but a stock Google phone will get full updates for at least 18 mos. After that,it remains usable for another 18 months. For example,the Droid,hero & g1 still run fine. Yes you can't play shadowgun or gta on them,but they do run fine. So its fine for 3 years usually. Unless you are a phone fanatic. I know I am.
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If you're talking about OS upgrades then it's going to be around for a while
If you're talking about hardware capabilities, it was behind the day it was released

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Google itself said all phones will get updates till 18 mo. Whether it gets crapped up by carrier OEM policies or not,but a stock Google phone will get full updates for at least 18 mos. After that,it remains usable for another 18 months. For example,the Droid,hero & g1 still run fine. Yes you can't play shadowgun or gta on them,but they do run fine. So its fine for 3 years usually. Unless you are a phone fanatic. I know I am.
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Well all know that the whole 18 month thing is a sham. LG and many other manufacturers signed that agreement. You do not think they're actually gonna update the G2x a "Google experience" phone, do you? They couldn't even get a proper Gingerbread build; it was still running a Froyo kernel.
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EP2008 said:
The Galaxy Nexus will feel like a dinosaur in 2 years. Wait a few more months for this years crop of phones to be released. Some of them already put the GN to shame.
Modern tech gets old quickly. Be happy with what you get and don't read up on any new stuff once you get it or you'll feel buyers remorse every day.
Enjoy whatever you decide to purchase
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If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with!

[Q] GNex or wait for GS3?

I'm on AT&T and wanting a new phone. The GNex is rumored to drop for AT&T any day now with Sprint getting it on 4/22. I've been planning on making that my next phone for a while now, was just waiting for AT&T get it. Then I started hearing these rumors about the GS3 being out as soon as the end of April, latest being end of May. Don't know how much weight that holds, but if it were true, should I wait it out and go for the GS3? Or just go with the GNex when it comes out?

S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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ALIHISGREAT said:
S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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not only at least june before it hits stores but at least june before it hits stores in the UK america is seriously lacking when it comes to new Galaxy devices the GS2 was what.. like 6 months old when it finally launched in america? Not to mention we got the **** end of the stick with a phone that had a completely different chipset..

Wait the announcement of the s3 and see if the s3 is better than the nexus and if you can wait, wait !
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Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?

Sleeping Giant said:
Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?
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I'll be waiting till may 5th if its not day one in america or shortly there after I will be buying Gnex for sprint. Also the original S2 had exynos processor but the american version didn't =[

Yeah, I guess that's my plan, too. Wait for the launch and see what it actually releases as and then make the decision.

The Galaxy Nexus is OFFICIALLY for sale on Google Play either thru the app or online for GSM customers, i.e. Tmo and ATT The 16gb version. No biggie
I was excited and still like the phone, although from Day one when I got my Tmo Galaxy S2 (which I love) some bloggers, I forget said that the hardware on the GS2 I have is better than the Nexus
Prolly true so I have to decide do I want pure Google NOW and also ICS NOW OR Wait for ICS to come to the GS2 I have OR wait for the next GS3?
Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??

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Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??
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It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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Probably less. But if you are anal or want it perfect, yes.
In any case, longer than it took you to make that donkey of a comment.
I know many a senior member here who would not post that
And from one member to another, and one human to another, if you dont have anything positive to ad, dont say it
You need to either lookup or learn to incorporate paradigm into life and your help here. How do you know one isn't on disability, maybe can't create an ad that quickly maybe due to physical ailments, or psych ones like add or simply can't concentrate. Like me
But I wont say all that. I will just ignore my thoughts, you do also, and let me thank you for your help!!!

Didn't mean any offense by that man...I was just legit asking out of concern. Lighten up a bit...
Anyway if you're trying to decide between a sgii or a galaxy nexus. Everyone here is going to tell you to go nexus route mostly because of the great developer support it carries and the priority it gets when it comes to google updates.
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Thank You. Gave you thanks
So iyho, if it is no problem to sell the GS2 I already have to get the newly available GSM from Google, then go ahead and do it even if the newest Galaxy will be out 3-6 months from now. (keeping in mind that I don't mind getting a new phone soon after) In other words, the perks of pure google and ICS are worth it--better sooner than later.
Thanks again

Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.

Sleeping Giant said:
Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.
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I haven't personally used one yet, but the general reviews all say the same thing: fantastic looking, powerful phone. Unfortunately battery life is mediocre and Sense 4.0 is a little wonky.
Personally I'd grab a GNexus or wait for the next Galaxy phone. The Nexus is plenty powerful, VERY simple to mod, and you can expand the battery with almost zero additional size to the phone.
Lately Samsung hardware is the hardware to beat. They're on a serious roll with their mobile devices.
May is only several days away. I'd wait for the Galaxy announcement and release date. You can make your mind up then. I just think it would be silly to buy a One X or a GNexus before seeing what is happening with the GSIII. Waiting a month for what could be a killer phone is worth it considering how many years you'll likely be using whatever you buy.

Personally I decided to pick up a galaxy nexus last week and have been absolutely thrilled. This is my first nexus device and I can't believe how nice stock Android is. Hardware wise, it doesn't get much better than the gnex and probably won't for a while. Quad cores are cool, but do they matter? The gnex does everything and you'll never have to worry about waiting for updates to the newest version of Android. Even the nexus one which is 2 years old runs 4.0.4 without issue, whereas much newer phones like the RAZR are stuck on gingerbread. I think the hardware is good enough at this point that the software is really what limits you. Just my $0.02.
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IMO Gnex for sure or wait on the next Nexus! Nexus phones always will have better developer support due to the nature and openness of the device and ASOP. For me at least that is the deciding factor.

It depends on how much you are ready to spend. Right now, the G Nex is $440.
When the Galaxy S III comes out, it will be about 700$. You will have to wait a while for the price to come down, and by then we'll have the next Nexus device.
Moreover, having the G Nex means you will have the next Android version sooner than Galaxy S III.
But if raw hardware power is what you are looking for and money isn't much of a concern, Galaxy S III is the device for you.

The gnex is actually now $400 straight from Google For what you're getting, I think that's a steal.
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Sounds like the S3 is going to be pretty BA.

GNex is at the top of my list. I still want to wait and see what the GS3 has to offer, though.

[Question] Change phone?

hi i got a nexus like 2 weeks ago and is it worth exchanging it to a note or s3? im a bit confused is nexus like out of the league compared to note and s3? pls help me decide
im currently running paranoid android 2.16 and having fun with it but in my case i want the best phone there is on the galaxy side

If you want to be "up to date", get the s3. The GN has been out for almost a year so I understand your confusion.
If you want the best Android experience with tons of exclusive features, stay with the GN.. It's like the ultimate Android device.
I used to be under the impression that our phone was outdated and I looked to upgrade but nothing feels better than someone walking up to me saying, "wow, what phone is that?"
Honestly, if you already have the GN, stick with it. No need to upgrade an already awesome device.

Thank you for helping me figure out which is the best phone i think ill stick with the Gnex since your right about people asking what phone are we using and i did a little research on you comment " It's like the ultimate Android device." i just found out that Gnex is the only device that is using the original jellybean really thank you for clearing up my mind
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If you want to be "up to date", get the s3. The GN has been out for almost a year so I understand your confusion.
If you want the best Android experience with tons of exclusive features, stay with the GN.. It's like the ultimate Android device.
I used to be under the impression that our phone was outdated and I looked to upgrade but nothing feels better than someone walking up to me saying, "wow, what phone is that?"
Honestly, if you already have the GN, stick with it. No need to upgrade an already awesome device.
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I recently got a Gnex as well. I didn't own an S3, but have played with a couple for extended periods. I didn't have the GNex at the time, but now that I got it, I think the vanilla android is amazing, and I wouldn't change for anything atm.

stay where you are. Ive had the s3 & ditched it for the nexus. next time to change is when the new gnex is announced.
trust me

If you get a S3 just because it is the latest thing then it won't be the latest for long - the S4 will be out early next year. Actually the "latest thing" is actually the Note 2. I passed on my awesome Note to my with 5 weeks ago to get the even more awsomener GNex. The thing about a Nexus is it can be a long term commitment as it will receive speedy updates and wont be forgotten whilst the hardware is still capable – look at the Nexus S getting JB. I don’t think I will bother with a new Android phone until the 2013 Nexus although I do fancy picking up a cheap WP8 device in spring when they slash the prices of all the unsold stock. For me to keep the same phone for more than 3-4 months is unheard of, I have had 9 in 24 months, so I must really love the Gnex!

actually this answers a lot the main reason i want a latest phone cause of support, the last android i got was the moto cliq and after 4 months support for it went no where so i was kinda disappointed and moved to the iphone and now i got the Gnex well im gonna stick with Gnex reading a good feed back from you guys :victory:
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If you get a S3 just because it is the latest thing then it won't be the latest for long - the S4 will be out early next year. Actually the "latest thing" is actually the Note 2. I passed on my awesome Note to my with 5 weeks ago to get the even more awsomener GNex. The thing about a Nexus is it can be a long term commitment as it will receive speedy updates and wont be forgotten whilst the hardware is still capable – look at the Nexus S getting JB. I don’t think I will bother with a new Android phone until the 2013 Nexus although I do fancy picking up a cheap WP8 device in spring when they slash the prices of all the unsold stock. For me to keep the same phone for more than 3-4 months is unheard of, I have had 9 in 24 months, so I must really love the Gnex!
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I'd stay with the GNex too, if you are interested in custom ROMs then the S3 wouldn't be good for you because of bad support from Samsung for their Exynos chipset. Some CyanogenMod developers have already ditched devices with Exynos due to the reason I wrote.
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im really impressed i compared the Gnex against s3 and note the Gnex runs smoother it could be cause of the project butter but wow it beats the quadcore of s3 to dust :highfive:

Disappointing Google I/O. Waiting for Nexus 5 but instead got Samsung S4

Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?

kcharng said:
Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Nexus 5 is impossible, look at past trends.
And the s4 ge is not a nexus device, it's just AOSP supported..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
What is expected is a updated nexus 7, which did not come out as of today, there is still 2 days of I/o, who knows what will happen..
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
IO had updates to a lot of existing apps. Hangouts was a little lackluster, but the Books and Music apps got big updates, and it looks like the Maps app will get one soon. And there's the new IDE and the Games framework might be quite nice. So I'm actually not all that disappointed.

bananagranola said:
I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
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Bingo.:good:

kcharng said:
I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
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Me and you both. I'm leaning towards the Note3 unless a better option is available by September.

Just like the g1, ogdroid, hero, g2, g2x, and maybe 1 or 2 other Verizon droid phones....pure Google s4....nothing new to see here.. #stillnotanexus
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more

If they had a new device to announce they need a new version of android. And if there was a new one they would do it at the highlight keynote. Not during the workshops.
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There's actually something bigger than a new Android version or device in this I/O.
They improve the rest except those I mentioned above.
I actually hoping for the next Android version.
And I'm still hoping they'll surprise us in the middle of another event. Hahaha. This is a silly hope, but who knows?

elnitrox said:
the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.

Mach3.2 said:
Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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akash3656 said:
And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol

I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?

Why would anyone in their right mind expect a nexus 5 at I/o every nexus phone to date has been released in October, and it is still only 6 months since the nexus 4 was released.
I was, however, a little disappointed not to see a nexus 7 upgrade and android 4.3, but given all the leaks, it seams 4.3 simply got delayed and we'll probably see it at some point this summer.

crixley said:
Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
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I would say that depends heavily on if you're a collector of all things Google or not
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RoyJ said:
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
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Hang in there. There's still hope Motorola will come through with something unlocked, stock, and hot for all carriers. And no, I'm not talking about the XFON, that was revealed to have mid-grade specs. Perhaps it's big brother though, which is rumored to be launching for all carriers with similar specs to that of the newer super phones.
I'm in the same boat as you, have been sitting on my upgrade since December hoping for some news or acknowledgement of things for come for our CDMA network...
#FingersCrossed
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Saw some speculation on Android Central that Google may be moving in the direction of annual update cycles now that Android has achieved a degree of maturity and polish. I am a little dubious. Part of what has made Android great up to this point has been the fact that we don't have to wait a year for updates. Two or three updates annually keeps things fresh. I would speculate that it also helps to keep the development community involved since there is always a new challenge to be tackled, but not necessarily at the expense of all of the hard work that went into the previous iteration. Just my 2¢.
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akash3656 said:
And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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There is no arguments over here, just correcting misinformation. Unless you are trying to tell me Nexus One is not a nexus device, then fine.
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It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.

Lythandra said:
It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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slayr76 said:
The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The S3 to S4 is a fairly large upgrade compared to the GNEX to N4. The S4 improved on virtually every aspect of the device and even shrunk the dimensions while increasing the screen size. They improved the screen, battery, camera, processor, GPU, ergonomics and added features. How is that a measly upgrade...?
I find it hard to understand that people want a complete overhaul of the devices looks in order for it be considered an "upgrade".
If they were to radically change up the overall look of the S5 people would make a million threads *****ing about the changes...
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