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[Q] Galaxy Nexus Why all the anticipation ?

After seeing all the specs on this phone, and some hands on video, I am pretty dissapointed with the wait. There are phones out now that pretty much rival all aspects of the Nexus - except the ICS. In a month or so, ICS will be available to the the other phones. When it is, it will put the Nexus on par with them (or a notch below).
Whats all the hype about ? It seems like it is all around ICS, and a device we cannot yet get our hands on.

Ics. Duh.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

Why ?
Because of the ****ty carrier update system.
Personally Id by an Amaze 4g today if the stupid piece of crap carrier and HTC werent in the way of me getting Android 4.0. As it stands pretty much the only way you get to use it is by getting a GN or waiting 2-3 months for decent roms to come out.
Again. Since Google refuses to mandate min. time frames for carrier/OEM updates this means noone has a clue when they can get a major OS update. Making GN the only choice for months.
The HD screen is the second biggest factor , I havent seen any comparison to a QHD screen so dont know if its as big a deal as Im making it out to be.

The display, the OS, and the fact that it's a Nexus device. Win/Win/Win.

For me it's not having an annoying overlay. Touchwiz and Sense are ok, but I'd much rather have vanilla Android.

randypurcz said:
After seeing all the specs on this phone, and some hands on video, I am pretty dissapointed with the wait. There are phones out now that pretty much rival all aspects of the Nexus - except the ICS. In a month or so, ICS will be available to the the other phones. When it is, it will put the Nexus on par with them (or a notch below).
Whats all the hype about ? It seems like it is all around ICS, and a device we cannot yet get our hands on.
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The Nexus line is not suppose to be "top of the line" spec phones.
But to answer your question, the Galaxy Nexus comes with ICS, that's why everyone wants it.
To put things into perspective. I bought my G2x a few month ago, and it shipped with Froyo, with a promised update to Gingerbread. This was many, many months after Gingerbread was released.
Typically, phones won't see the latest android OS a few month after the OS has been announced. So if you want the latest OS, you need to go with a Nexus device.

1.) ICS
2.) Likely to have a huge developer base
3.) Hardware fairly optimized for software (and according to: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/17/2568348/galaxy-nexus-review , its blazing fast)
4.) 720p HD Screen (again according to the above link and also http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/17/galaxy-nexus-review-part-1-hardware-overview-video/ although the screen is pentile, it still is amazing)
5.) Vanilla Android
6.) ???
7.) Profit
Now, I can see why some people might not want to buy this phone because of the following three reasons:
1.) Low-standard GPU - could become obsoleted fairly quickly (really old GPU) and I highly doubt a lot of games in the future could run on this device
2.) Although the hardware is fast now, in a few months from now it may not be as fast in comparison to other devices. (Remember CES 2011 with the introduction of dual core smartphones? From then on, the single core processor phones were essentially obsoleted + it is rumoured that there will be quad core phones later this year - http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/15/r...ndroid-4-0-with-a-2-5ghz-quad-core-processor/)
3.) The battery life may not be great with this phone

randypurcz said:
Whats all the hype about ? It seems like it is all around ICS, and a device we cannot yet get our hands on.
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that's exactly what it is a Developer reference phone for ICS
that's why you no longer see the state of the art hardware included anymore since Nexus S

I see all your points.
I guess I think Google/Samsung/Verizon, just dragged thier feet too long on getting it to market IMO. I think higher spec phones are just months away, so the only thing cutting edge here is ICS. Just my opinion.
Now, I do have the Nexus on the way, but I am just not going to be sleepless over it. I just sold my Galaxy Note (too big to function as a phone for me, but one hell of an information device), but I will always wonder how it would have performed with ICS versus GB.

mohitrocks said:
1.) Low-standard GPU - could become obsoleted fairly quickly (really old GPU) and I highly doubt a lot of games in the future could run on this device
2.) Although the hardware is fast now, in a few months from now it may not be as fast in comparison to other devices. (Remember CES 2011 with the introduction of dual core smartphones? From then on, the single core processor phones were essentially obsoleted + it is rumoured that there will be quad core phones later this year - http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/15/r...ndroid-4-0-with-a-2-5ghz-quad-core-processor/)
3.) The battery life may not be great with this phone
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hmmm... methinks you didn't give your cons much thought as they all contradict. each other.

oilfighter said:
The Nexus line is not suppose to be "top of the line" spec phones.
But to answer your question, the Galaxy Nexus comes with ICS, that's why everyone wants it.
To put things into perspective. I bought my G2x a few month ago, and it shipped with Froyo, with a promised update to Gingerbread. This was many, many months after Gingerbread was released.
Typically, phones won't see the latest android OS a few month after the OS has been announced. So if you want the latest OS, you need to go with a Nexus device.
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I think the nexus phones are developer phones so are set at being what google expect the average phone to be in the middle ics lifetime. After all theres no point developing on a phone when no other phone comes close to the specs. The only benefit really is it gets the latest android first rather than waiting for manufacturer releases or even later for mobile operator releases.
Personally I'm still undecided and also considering the RAZR or waiting to see what comes out in the next few months. There is no phone which makes me think I must have it at all costs at the moment. SGS2 is meh, HTC XE looks nice but doesn't excite, only RAZR and Nexus I'm considering though I'd consider the rezound if it was available in the uk.
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pukemon said:
hmmm... methinks you didn't give your cons much thought as they all contradict. each other.
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How so? I don't believe I did.
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gbroon said:
I think the nexus phones are developer phones so are set at being what google expect the average phone to be in the middle ics lifetime. After all theres no point developing on a phone when no other phone comes close to the specs. The only benefit really is it gets the latest android first rather than waiting for manufacturer releases or even later for mobile operator releases.
Personally I'm still undecided and also considering the RAZR or waiting to see what comes out in the next few months. There is no phone which makes me think I must have it at all costs at the moment. SGS2 is meh, HTC XE looks nice but doesn't excite, only RAZR and Nexus I'm considering though I'd consider the rezound if it was available in the uk.
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I wouldn't go for the RAZR, as many reviews I have seen put it on a bad place compared to the Nexus (E.g. www.theverge.com)

For me it's the screen and ICS ....Why the crappy gpu and only 5meg camera and sub par audio is beyond me.....I don't play many games but the gpu in the s2 woulda been nice..I sold my Vibrant and need a phone now might not wait and just get gs2..The gpu in the nexus is very dissapointing ...Why the newer high end device would be speced lower than the older s2 is just dumb imo.
I did find a store that imports them and is expected the 28th for $749 shipped......The gs2 will cost me $444 local tmo.....Decisions Decisions!

Until the quad cores come out much later in 2012 the galaxy nexus will mostly be top dog. The next batch of devices will all be dual core 1.5ish ghz, some will get some version of 720p screens some will not. We should see that clear through summer until the galaxy hd/3.
That's a pretty good run for a device add to it the google experience and well it should hold its own for two years easily. IMO the only people getting screwed are the people buying the gs2 now.
As long add it's out before the end of January on AT&T (unlikely) I'll buy the galaxy nexus otherwise I'll wait for summer.

Well now it looks like the GS2 has already been ported, so maybe months of wait will be reduced to weeks to get a usable ICS rom on some of the better devices. Cancelled my preorder(Nexus) and am thinking of purchasing another Note !

STi489 said:
For me it's the screen and ICS ....Why the crappy gpu and only 5meg camera and sub par audio is beyond me.....I don't play many games but the gpu in the s2 woulda been nice..I sold my Vibrant and need a phone now might not wait and just get gs2..The gpu in the nexus is very dissapointing ...Why the newer high end device would be speced lower than the older s2 is just dumb imo.
I did find a store that imports them and is expected the 28th for $749 shipped......The gs2 will cost me $444 local tmo.....Decisions Decisions!
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I'd like to refer you to here where they go beyond speculation and actually have the device so aren't pulling things out of thin air like 99% of the people here.
For people who tl;dr:
"Before we received the device, what troubled us was the idea of a last-generation GPU pushing 1280×720 pixels of the Galaxy Nexus’ screen — we can now say that fear is unfounded. We picked up and played a few games of Wind-up Knight and found it performed better in its native resolution than did the Motorola RAZR at 960×540. The RAZR uses the same GPU at a slightly slower speed, but has 40% fewer pixels. Google has done some serious tweaking to the graphics drivers to achieve such amazing results."
Just like how we don't compare ATI and Nvidia cards by their GFLOP's nor triangles per second, we should keep in mind that performance is dependant on both hardware and drivers - and varies with games just as some games naturally play better with Nvidia cards and some perform better with ATI/AMD cards. Drivers make a world of difference. Looks like Google/PowerVR/TI have done their job.

STi489 said:
For me it's the screen and ICS ....Why the crappy gpu and only 5meg camera and sub par audio is beyond me.....I don't play many games but the gpu in the s2 woulda been nice..I sold my Vibrant and need a phone now might not wait and just get gs2..The gpu in the nexus is very dissapointing ...Why the newer high end device would be speced lower than the older s2 is just dumb imo.
I did find a store that imports them and is expected the 28th for $749 shipped......The gs2 will cost me $444 local tmo.....Decisions Decisions!
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Once again, MP means jack **** EXCEPT picture size. Do your research before you comment. As some comparisons have said its only a little below the iPhone 4s in quality, and guess what? That's not due to MP.
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That review was pretty good.

Is the nexus going to be as big as the S2?

Is the nexus going to be the next big thing? And thus in regards to roms and themes etc. is it going to have lots of devs on board? I'm in the market right now for a phone but the only thing stopping me from getting a nexus is the lack of mods. So that's either because it is so new or people don't actually like it. So is it worth getting this phone and waiting for 3rd party stuff to come out? As I really don't care about the average ICS features they talk about.

It's too new. It's the next damn Nexus phone, it's the ICS reference phone, it already has plenty of developers. But it's a low newer than the SII.

As stated before, its too new. Sure, the SGSII sold about 1 million units in less than a month but you gotta take into consideration that Samsung brung in new technology and the Galaxy Nexus is pretty much an upgraded SGSII with AOSP. SuperAMOLED HD & an LED notification are the 2 main features that made me want this phone, plus the design is alot sleaker than first anticipated. Also, Google phones are developer phones. So people tend to not go for dev phones even though its alot easier to use than Bloatwiz.
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sales wise the galaxy nexus will NOT surpass the GS2
as far as development, community and modding goes, that it will surpass simply because the nexus is the go to device for the fast majority of major developers around here.

in any case except software there is not much to write about in Galaxy Nexus, its more or less the same hardware specs as SGS2 which is almost an year old now.
Now that ICS is showcased, there should be much better hardware coming up (in a matter of months) which would be FAR BETTER!
There is hardly anything to write about in this hardware, but coming up are the 1.5/2 GHz - quad core CPUs and that would make for the REAL deal

Unfortunately, the nexus Galaxy S handset will blow the Nexus out the water sales-wise as Samsung will plug it like hell

dhruvraj said:
in any case except software there is not much to write about in Galaxy Nexus, its more or less the same hardware specs as SGS2 which is almost an year old now.
Now that ICS is showcased, there should be much better hardware coming up (in a matter of months) which would be FAR BETTER!
There is hardly anything to write about in this hardware, but coming up are the 1.5/2 GHz - quad core CPUs and that would make for the REAL deal
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Uh.. have you taken a look at CES 2012? many companies announced upcoming phones. All of them with the exception of the Huawei one are being launched with Gingerbread upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich. This will take months to do. Not to mention, manufacturer skins will ruin the stock ICS experience.
Sure tablets are coming out with quad-cores. But all in honesty, this is a phone, not a computer. Quad core is nice, yes. But it's still a phone.
Galaxy Nexus won't be big as the S2 in terms of sales. It never will be. Nexus devices are focused towards Android enthusiastics that want the stock experience. It is not a device that is mainstream (not the device everyone will notice). Which is what makes the device so cool and unique with it's sleek design.
Galaxy Nexus will have major support from developers. We've already have numerous developers who are putting work and effort into ROMs and kernels including Ezekeel (his works from the Nexus S and kernel expertise), Franco (kernel), morfic (in progress with donations), supercurio (Voodoo) and so on. Several CM devs also have the phone.
Why do you think Clockwork Recovery Touch Enabled was built first for the GN? Get the phone if modding / ROMs is your thing. The phone's just going to get bigger as it slowly gets expanded onto U.S. carriers (whenever..)

I don't understand ur point and most probably there is none anyway
Matter of months you see much better hardware, we will both be here I'll post ..HTC Samsung are both coming up with their next Gen phones.
Galaxy nexus is an year old spec almost, and regarding OS - almost everyone is rooting their nexus devices - so u root a much better hardware spec device and port a fully functional ICS rom on them and you're there!
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Actually he made very good points. Coming from an iPhone the galaxy nexus was the only option. I won't deal with lack of upgrades and bloatware anymore
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dhruvraj said:
I don't understand ur point and most probably there is none anyway
Matter of months you see much better hardware, we will both be here I'll post ..HTC Samsung are both coming up with their next Gen phones.
Galaxy nexus is an year old spec almost, and regarding OS - almost everyone is rooting their nexus devices - so u root a much better hardware spec device and port a fully functional ICS rom on them and you're there!
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Next generation phones? The lineup of these phones at ces were not that impressive, and I doubt I'll be impressed at mwc. Also 99% of these phones will be on gingerbread
Nexus devices will always be the best choice for me because I enjoy the pure android experience without bloatware and easy unlock.
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February!! ICS!! Quad core!!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3-here-february-with-3d-720p-screen-50006516/
Most likely 1.5 ghz!!
What are you talking about? Deluded?
Or because you bought nexus it is the best device??
It is an year old hardware, I've bought it for some reasons but anyone who can afford to ..should wait a month or two to get the real deal!
I just gave Samsung s3 a mighty upgrade from HTC is also coming up real soon!
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dhruvraj said:
February!! ICS!! Quad core!!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3-here-february-with-3d-720p-screen-50006516/
Most likely 1.5 ghz!!
What are you talking about? Deluded?
Or because you bought nexus it is the best device??
It is an year old hardware, I've bought it for some reasons but anyone who can afford to ..should wait a month or two to get the real deal!
I just gave Samsung s3 a mighty upgrade from HTC is also coming up real soon!
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I bought a Galaxy Nexus because it is a nexus device. I do not care for Galaxy S3 because it uses a manufacturer skin causing delays when it comes to updates. Not to mention, S3 is announced and will probably not arrive to the states until Summer or Fall 2012.
Galaxy nexus hardware is definitely not outdated. Quad cores, what's the use of them if android os isn't optimized to be used with those four cores?
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[Q] GNex or wait for GS3?

I'm on AT&T and wanting a new phone. The GNex is rumored to drop for AT&T any day now with Sprint getting it on 4/22. I've been planning on making that my next phone for a while now, was just waiting for AT&T get it. Then I started hearing these rumors about the GS3 being out as soon as the end of April, latest being end of May. Don't know how much weight that holds, but if it were true, should I wait it out and go for the GS3? Or just go with the GNex when it comes out?

S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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ALIHISGREAT said:
S3 announcement is supposed to be may 5th in London (from memory, an event was announced a few days ago- its definitely early may though) so that's at least June before its in stores.
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not only at least june before it hits stores but at least june before it hits stores in the UK america is seriously lacking when it comes to new Galaxy devices the GS2 was what.. like 6 months old when it finally launched in america? Not to mention we got the **** end of the stick with a phone that had a completely different chipset..

Wait the announcement of the s3 and see if the s3 is better than the nexus and if you can wait, wait !
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Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?

Sleeping Giant said:
Some of the rumors I heard said that Samsung was going to try and emulate Apple's strategy and have the phone globally available immediately after the announcement. And that it's going to have 1.5GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core CPU (Samsung's Cortex A9) and 4.8" 1080p Super AMOLED Plus. Others said it's just going to be what the iPhone 4s was to the to iPhone 4 in relation to the S2. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Does anyone know when the GNex is actually going to release for AT&T?
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I'll be waiting till may 5th if its not day one in america or shortly there after I will be buying Gnex for sprint. Also the original S2 had exynos processor but the american version didn't =[

Yeah, I guess that's my plan, too. Wait for the launch and see what it actually releases as and then make the decision.

The Galaxy Nexus is OFFICIALLY for sale on Google Play either thru the app or online for GSM customers, i.e. Tmo and ATT The 16gb version. No biggie
I was excited and still like the phone, although from Day one when I got my Tmo Galaxy S2 (which I love) some bloggers, I forget said that the hardware on the GS2 I have is better than the Nexus
Prolly true so I have to decide do I want pure Google NOW and also ICS NOW OR Wait for ICS to come to the GS2 I have OR wait for the next GS3?
Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??

eric0668 said:
Idk. between the current Tmo GS2 and the Nexus, is it worth it spending an hour or less coming up with an ebay ad to sell, then order it??
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It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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lazaro17 said:
It takes you an hour to post something on eBay?
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Probably less. But if you are anal or want it perfect, yes.
In any case, longer than it took you to make that donkey of a comment.
I know many a senior member here who would not post that
And from one member to another, and one human to another, if you dont have anything positive to ad, dont say it
You need to either lookup or learn to incorporate paradigm into life and your help here. How do you know one isn't on disability, maybe can't create an ad that quickly maybe due to physical ailments, or psych ones like add or simply can't concentrate. Like me
But I wont say all that. I will just ignore my thoughts, you do also, and let me thank you for your help!!!

Didn't mean any offense by that man...I was just legit asking out of concern. Lighten up a bit...
Anyway if you're trying to decide between a sgii or a galaxy nexus. Everyone here is going to tell you to go nexus route mostly because of the great developer support it carries and the priority it gets when it comes to google updates.
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Thank You. Gave you thanks
So iyho, if it is no problem to sell the GS2 I already have to get the newly available GSM from Google, then go ahead and do it even if the newest Galaxy will be out 3-6 months from now. (keeping in mind that I don't mind getting a new phone soon after) In other words, the perks of pure google and ICS are worth it--better sooner than later.
Thanks again

Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.

Sleeping Giant said:
Anyone have an opinion on the HTC One X? That is also one of my choices.
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I haven't personally used one yet, but the general reviews all say the same thing: fantastic looking, powerful phone. Unfortunately battery life is mediocre and Sense 4.0 is a little wonky.
Personally I'd grab a GNexus or wait for the next Galaxy phone. The Nexus is plenty powerful, VERY simple to mod, and you can expand the battery with almost zero additional size to the phone.
Lately Samsung hardware is the hardware to beat. They're on a serious roll with their mobile devices.
May is only several days away. I'd wait for the Galaxy announcement and release date. You can make your mind up then. I just think it would be silly to buy a One X or a GNexus before seeing what is happening with the GSIII. Waiting a month for what could be a killer phone is worth it considering how many years you'll likely be using whatever you buy.

Personally I decided to pick up a galaxy nexus last week and have been absolutely thrilled. This is my first nexus device and I can't believe how nice stock Android is. Hardware wise, it doesn't get much better than the gnex and probably won't for a while. Quad cores are cool, but do they matter? The gnex does everything and you'll never have to worry about waiting for updates to the newest version of Android. Even the nexus one which is 2 years old runs 4.0.4 without issue, whereas much newer phones like the RAZR are stuck on gingerbread. I think the hardware is good enough at this point that the software is really what limits you. Just my $0.02.
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IMO Gnex for sure or wait on the next Nexus! Nexus phones always will have better developer support due to the nature and openness of the device and ASOP. For me at least that is the deciding factor.

It depends on how much you are ready to spend. Right now, the G Nex is $440.
When the Galaxy S III comes out, it will be about 700$. You will have to wait a while for the price to come down, and by then we'll have the next Nexus device.
Moreover, having the G Nex means you will have the next Android version sooner than Galaxy S III.
But if raw hardware power is what you are looking for and money isn't much of a concern, Galaxy S III is the device for you.

The gnex is actually now $400 straight from Google For what you're getting, I think that's a steal.
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Sounds like the S3 is going to be pretty BA.

GNex is at the top of my list. I still want to wait and see what the GS3 has to offer, though.

Is the galaxy nexus obsolete now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktoalz6PbXc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I don't think it is sure it came out last year in December , and I'm one of those people the switch phones a lot, I had the BB, htc hero, evo 4G, the thunderbolt, iPhone 4, epic , nexus s 4g, evo 3d, epic touch, iPhone 4s and now the galaxy nexus, I admited i have made some stupid mistakes but I'm palming to stay with my galaxy nexus and my iPhone 4S( might sell this one tho cause I got offer $500). Anyways I just wanted to posted this cause a lot people here is thinking about the GS3 which in reality is not the biggest upgrade IMO... Anyways how many phones how you own in the last 2 years( I would say 2 years cause thats how long contracts are in the US.

Phones are like computers....obsolete by the time they make it to store shelves.
Actually, they become obsolete even faster than computers.

NO.
It's a Nexus B-)

How come my nexus won't fit in my floppy disk drive? Serious.
let it be.

No its not obsolete, its like saying the Ferrari enzo is obsolete now because the 458 Italian is out.
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This video sums up everything I believe in Android device "Fragmentation".

Duh, of course the Android 4.0.4 Galaxy Nexus has been made obsolete by the Android 4.0.4 Galaxy S III...

It's development community is what keeps the phone relevant. Take a look at the g1.its dead now but it lasted for a long time
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adrynalyne said:
Phones are like computers....obsolete by the time they make it to store shelves.
Actually, they become obsolete even faster than computers.
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I wonder when we will be building our phones..

Not at all...

jgalan14 said:
Is the galaxy nexus obsolete now?
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Obsolete definition: No longer produced or used; out of date
Well the Galaxy Nexus is still being produced by google and used by us so the first part wouldn't even apply.
As for the "out of date" part? I'd have to say no...
+ Latest OS (ics)
+ Latest screen technology (super amoled hd)
+ Dual core processor (try finding a quad core in the states ... cant be done)
+ Guaranteed OS updates before any other newer devices (jellybean)
+ Best developer community
- Out of date camera (not a photographer and even if I was I'd use a dslr instead)
- Out of date battery size (buy a spare off Amazon for $8 and keep it in your pocket)

Its a niche market device. People who want Nexus phones will buy Nexus phones because they know what they are.
Until the next Nexus phone comes out, this is my phone.

I must be blind but to me the camera on the Nexus is great.
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I determine a phone to be obsolete when it no longer has any manufacturer support. My sgs4g is obsolete to me because it will never see another official update of any kind. My nexus will see them so its not obsolete.
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miketoasty said:
I must be blind but to me the camera on the Nexus is great.
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It all depends on what you expect from your phone's camera. Me? I have a bag with over $2000 worth of camera gear in it. When I want to take pics, I use that. When I take pics on my phone, I really only want to grab something quick. So my standards aren't high for my phone.
Have they come a long way and are they better on newer phones? Absolutely. I guess it just doesn't really matter to some (read: me). I've taken what I think to be nice pics.
Quality picture taking (regardless of the equipment) is all about lighting.

no not even close
Sure the HTC One series and SIII are really nice devices but the Gnex is still amazing by any standard. We will also have, I believe, the best developer support be it Google themselves or 3rd party.

jgalan14 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktoalz6PbXc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I don't think it is sure it came out last year in December , and I'm one of those people the switch phones a lot, I had the BB, htc hero, evo 4G, the thunderbolt, iPhone 4, epic , nexus s 4g, evo 3d, epic touch, iPhone 4s and now the galaxy nexus, I admited i have made some stupid mistakes but I'm palming to stay with my galaxy nexus and my iPhone 4S( might sell this one tho cause I got offer $500). Anyways I just wanted to posted this cause a lot people here is thinking about the GS3 which in reality is not the biggest upgrade IMO... Anyways how many phones how you own in the last 2 years( I would say 2 years cause thats how long contracts are in the US.
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Depends on how you look at it. If you view the Nexus for what it is...a developer phone with an unlockable bootloader that serves as Google's reference device for the current version of Android, then the only thing that can make a Nexus obsolete would be the next Nexus.
If you look at it as an end user device, then you could make the argument that if it's not obsolete yet, it will be in very short order with such beasts as the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S III. But then again, Nexus devices have never been at the forefront of hardware because that's not what it's about.
I take the first view. I also take this view with the tablets too. Sure, there are tablets out there that are sexier than the Xoom now, but a year later it is still the only Google Experience tablet and is the only reference tablet available, so therefore the Xoom still isn't obsolete yet.

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Obsolete definition: No longer produced or used; out of date
Well the Galaxy Nexus is still being produced by google and used by us so the first part wouldn't even apply.
As for the "out of date" part? I'd have to say no...
+ Latest OS (ics)
+ Latest screen technology (super amoled hd)
+ Dual core processor (try finding a quad core in the states ... cant be done)
+ Guaranteed OS updates before any other newer devices (jellybean)
+ Best developer community
- Out of date camera (not a photographer and even if I was I'd use a dslr instead)
- Out of date battery size (buy a spare off Amazon for $8 and keep it in your pocket)
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Yes! YES!!
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Phone still beats GS3. Quad core is gonna be horrendously battery inefficient when it comes out. Why do you think the stock battery is so huge?

Sdobron said:
Phone still beats GS3. Quad core is gonna be horrendously battery inefficient when it comes out. Why do you think the stock battery is so huge?
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Amen to that. My buddy was telling me today that he was going to get a GS3 on release day and mentioned the 2100 mAH battery. I said "Well yeah man, you're going to need every bit of that to power that quad core processor. My Galaxy Nexus has an 1850 mAH battery with a dual core processor and I'll guarantee you my battery life rivals yours." He said "Wow, you may have a point there." haha

Disappointing Google I/O. Waiting for Nexus 5 but instead got Samsung S4

Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?

kcharng said:
Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Nexus 5 is impossible, look at past trends.
And the s4 ge is not a nexus device, it's just AOSP supported..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
What is expected is a updated nexus 7, which did not come out as of today, there is still 2 days of I/o, who knows what will happen..
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
IO had updates to a lot of existing apps. Hangouts was a little lackluster, but the Books and Music apps got big updates, and it looks like the Maps app will get one soon. And there's the new IDE and the Games framework might be quite nice. So I'm actually not all that disappointed.

bananagranola said:
I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
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Bingo.:good:

kcharng said:
I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
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Me and you both. I'm leaning towards the Note3 unless a better option is available by September.

Just like the g1, ogdroid, hero, g2, g2x, and maybe 1 or 2 other Verizon droid phones....pure Google s4....nothing new to see here.. #stillnotanexus
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more

If they had a new device to announce they need a new version of android. And if there was a new one they would do it at the highlight keynote. Not during the workshops.
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There's actually something bigger than a new Android version or device in this I/O.
They improve the rest except those I mentioned above.
I actually hoping for the next Android version.
And I'm still hoping they'll surprise us in the middle of another event. Hahaha. This is a silly hope, but who knows?

elnitrox said:
the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.

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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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akash3656 said:
And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol

I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?

Why would anyone in their right mind expect a nexus 5 at I/o every nexus phone to date has been released in October, and it is still only 6 months since the nexus 4 was released.
I was, however, a little disappointed not to see a nexus 7 upgrade and android 4.3, but given all the leaks, it seams 4.3 simply got delayed and we'll probably see it at some point this summer.

crixley said:
Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
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I would say that depends heavily on if you're a collector of all things Google or not
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RoyJ said:
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
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Hang in there. There's still hope Motorola will come through with something unlocked, stock, and hot for all carriers. And no, I'm not talking about the XFON, that was revealed to have mid-grade specs. Perhaps it's big brother though, which is rumored to be launching for all carriers with similar specs to that of the newer super phones.
I'm in the same boat as you, have been sitting on my upgrade since December hoping for some news or acknowledgement of things for come for our CDMA network...
#FingersCrossed
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Saw some speculation on Android Central that Google may be moving in the direction of annual update cycles now that Android has achieved a degree of maturity and polish. I am a little dubious. Part of what has made Android great up to this point has been the fact that we don't have to wait a year for updates. Two or three updates annually keeps things fresh. I would speculate that it also helps to keep the development community involved since there is always a new challenge to be tackled, but not necessarily at the expense of all of the hard work that went into the previous iteration. Just my 2¢.
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akash3656 said:
And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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There is no arguments over here, just correcting misinformation. Unless you are trying to tell me Nexus One is not a nexus device, then fine.
Beamed from my Maguro.

It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.

Lythandra said:
It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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slayr76 said:
The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The S3 to S4 is a fairly large upgrade compared to the GNEX to N4. The S4 improved on virtually every aspect of the device and even shrunk the dimensions while increasing the screen size. They improved the screen, battery, camera, processor, GPU, ergonomics and added features. How is that a measly upgrade...?
I find it hard to understand that people want a complete overhaul of the devices looks in order for it be considered an "upgrade".
If they were to radically change up the overall look of the S5 people would make a million threads *****ing about the changes...
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