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Well it has been fun guys, I have definitely loved the experience of having the Note 3, but my 6 months are up and quite frankly, I just don't want it anymore. Just wish Cyanogenmod was kept up to date as fast as the S4 or Nexus 5. Anyway, it has been a great experience, and the community has been awesome for the most part. I just have one question to ask before I go for good...
Which one do I get???
Galaxy S5 or the Nexus 5??? OR maybe something else? Please help me decide XDA! Most of you guys know me as an experienced developer, and I am leaning towards the Nexus 5, but any reason why I should go with something else???
Thank you so much!!
WDM - Korey
I've been thinking about getting the new HTC one (m8). With an SD card slot, I'm thinking about moving back to htc. With Knox and a possibility of a locked bootloader Samsung is not going to be an option for the next phone I get. But if you are more into the pure Android experience and cm the Nexus 5 is a great phone too. Though there is a GPe version of the One which will be ported to the carriers by someone here.
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Man, after finally getting my hands on the 3, I just can't imagine why anyone would want to jump ship!
It's an amazing devise and there's so much development for it!
Having said that, the GS5 is gorgeous (of course), but I think if I were in your shoes (and just wanted away from the Note) I'd go with the newest Nexus series that's out.
Talk about your deluge of roms! Not only that, but if all else fails, you've got a rock solid stock Android experience you can always return too. That's highly compelling, to me at least.
Good luck with your decision, but I just know you'll miss having that 3 in your pocket and on your desk.
I'm in the same boat. I've decided on the HTC One m8 since you can have the best of both worlds (Google Play Rom should be available soon) and the hardware is fantastic. I just hope I don't get flak for Knox being tripped and that is the reason for me giving up on Samsung devices since I like to tinker with my devices.
I wouldn't jump to the S 5 since the bootloader is allegedly locked.
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I wouldn't jump to the S 5 since the bootloader is allegedly locked.
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Damn...well I would bet a lot of money that it will be unlocked in a week after release. Anyone wanna take me up on that?
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I would have thought the same about resetting 0X1 knox, too, but we all know that hasn't happened yet.
True lol
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Pointless...
Here's a link to T-Mobile's S5 webpage with specs...
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-5.html
I have an honest and legit question for you, actually a question I've been thinking about as well since I am ready to JUMP as of yesterday.
Why go get a S5 that has
a. A smaller screen then the Note3
b. 2gb of ram instead of the Note3's 3gb
c. Doesn't have the S-Pen (debatable depending on your actual use)
d. Both run KitKat stock
I understand the S5 has a 2.5ghz quad core and the Note3 only (lol) has a 2.3ghz quad core but is that .2ghz really nominal? I don't personally think so. Plus you loose 1gb of ram, which to me (running lots of apps) is a big deal.
I honestly have to say after doing some research, until T-Mobile releases a phone substantially better than the Note3 I have no reason to JUMP.
Opinions?
-DJ Nuff Said
I just don't like the lack of support for the device in the Dev community. Also, I'm tired of having such a big phone. It's a little excessive IMO
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I just don't like the lack of support for the device in the Dev community. Also, I'm tired of having such a big phone. It's a little excessive IMO
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I agree with you on the dev part in a way. Yes, we don't have as much dev support (like the s2, s3, s4) but I think the dev support we do have is very solid. Yeah the jump to KK is buggy but that will go away soon enough. and if .6" less of screen really makes a huge difference of how much space it takes up in your pocket, then maybe you should buy a larger size of pants LOL jk man
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I agree with you on the dev part in a way. Yes, we don't have as much dev support (like the s2, s3, s4) but I think the dev support we do have is very solid. Yeah the jump to KK is buggy but that will go away soon enough. and if .6" less of screen really makes a huge difference of how much space it takes up in your pocket, then maybe you should buy a larger size of pants LOL jk man
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Lol, well like I said I'm more leaning towards nexus 5, and potentially iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 later this year. Just because I want to try the new thing
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I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
Here is why I have decided to get the note 3 , yet again after leaving verizon
1- S5 , from the rumors will have locked bootlaoder, I cant believe T-mobile is following the evil tracks, really upsets me , but I think in the long run, only nexus devices will be allowed to be modded without voiding warranty. S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance ) . Aside form that S5 like stated above, has less ram, more pixel density that you will mostly not notice , no stylus, and I kinda dig the faux leather thing with note 3. The only thing I used to think has going for it is the wifi boost technology but I am on 1 gb plan and no way will I use my Lte to supplement my wifi , so its a useless feature. Also my fingers are too big for 5 inch screens, I cant tolerate having to re-write every word 3 times.
2-Nexus devices, I think are now the only developer friendly left devices, with perseverance of warranty, but again I hate 5 inch screens, I hate lack of SD cards , specially that most carriers are Data mining to make money, since all of a sudden they have enough resources for unlimited text and talk , but not data. I am seriously considering nexus if they offer bigger screen and bigger on board memory, 64 gb on board and i might even compromise on the lack of 5.8 inch screens. Also I am not sure about removable battery, but I love to be prepared, and lack of ability to change batteries on the go is a major down side for me.
3-HTC one m8: after i had the rezound i vowed to never go back to HTC, but they have improved dramatically recently. But once again, they are now all s-on , not sure unlocking them using htcdev and the voiding of warranty . but again you lose changing the battery on the fly, the massive 5.8 inch screen, a gig of ram for a unibody that will get covered in a seidio case anyway. Camera is also subpar , but thats very subjective I think.
now I am paying the devil's advocate and tell you why should run and upgrade now :
1- I am assuming your knox is tripped, I feel like over night t-mobile will stop rejecting knox phones, so get your phone turned in before they do that. I still have an entire year before i pay off half my balance, during which I am praying for a knox reset method ( yeah i know its easier to establish a colony on Mars ) or I might have to throw it under my car
2- if you are into modding, and i believe that you are if you are on this forum, bear in mind that we are only satisfied when we mod our devices, we are not apple users. Sadly, i feel like android is taking the turn towards apple's philosophy in closed sourceness ( not a word , i know ) . I even said to my self, i dont need an unlocked bootloader and a root with my verizon note 3, its a beast and it gives me option to disable progs and with 3 gigs of ram it can withstand all the bloatware verizon throws at it. BIG mistake, hence why I am on t-mobile ( among other reasons ). We will never be satisfied with stock. So seriously consider Nexus devices ( since they are Jump eligible and I dont think modding them voids Jump but who knows , )
Right now as I see it, Sony, HTC , Samsung and even LG are all locked up and you are gambling staying stock till you are able to Jump yet again. Look at verizon's and ATT bootloaders , they are still locked, and all of our knoxes are tripped. I absolutely hate saying this but the difference in modding between Apple and Android is going to get very blurred. Can you imagine yourself with an iphone?
waw , end of rant ! thanks for the thread that finally let me vent, I hope the thread wont get moved to general
let us know you decision !!
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Lol, well like I said I'm more leaning towards nexus 5, and potentially iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 later this year. Just because I want to try the new thing
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Touché.
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I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
Here is why I have decided to get the note 3 , yet again after leaving verizon
1- S5 , from the rumors will have locked bootlaoder, I cant believe T-mobile is following the evil tracks, really upsets me , but I think in the long run, only nexus devices will be allowed to be modded without voiding warranty. S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance ) . Aside form that S5 like stated above, has less ram, more pixel density that you will mostly not notice , no stylus, and I kinda dig the faux leather thing with note 3. The only thing I used to think has going for it is the wifi boost technology but I am on 1 gb plan and no way will I use my Lte to supplement my wifi , so its a useless feature. Also my fingers are too big for 5 inch screens, I cant tolerate having to re-write every word 3 times.
2-Nexus devices, I think are now the only developer friendly left devices, with perseverance of warranty, but again I hate 5 inch screens, I hate lack of SD cards , specially that most carriers are Data mining to make money, since all of a sudden they have enough resources for unlimited text and talk , but not data. I am seriously considering nexus if they offer bigger screen and bigger on board memory, 64 gb on board and i might even compromise on the lack of 5.8 inch screens. Also I am not sure about removable battery, but I love to be prepared, and lack of ability to change batteries on the go is a major down side for me.
3-HTC one m8: after i had the rezound i vowed to never go back to HTC, but they have improved dramatically recently. But once again, they are now all s-on , not sure unlocking them using htcdev and the voiding of warranty . but again you lose changing the battery on the fly, the massive 5.8 inch screen, a gig of ram for a unibody that will get covered in a seidio case anyway. Camera is also subpar , but thats very subjective I think.
now I am paying the devil's advocate and tell you why should run and upgrade now :
1- I am assuming your knox is tripped, I feel like over night t-mobile will stop rejecting knox phones, so get your phone turned in before they do that. I still have an entire year before i pay off half my balance, during which I am praying for a knox reset method ( yeah i know its easier to establish a colony on Mars ) or I might have to throw it under my car
2- if you are into modding, and i believe that you are if you are on this forum, bear in mind that we are only satisfied when we mod our devices, we are not apple users. Sadly, i feel like android is taking the turn towards apple's philosophy in closed sourceness ( not a word , i know ) . I even said to my self, i dont need an unlocked bootloader and a root with my verizon note 3, its a beast and it gives me option to disable progs and with 3 gigs of ram it can withstand all the bloatware verizon throws at it. BIG mistake, hence why I am on t-mobile ( among other reasons ). We will never be satisfied with stock. So seriously consider Nexus devices ( since they are Jump eligible and I dont think modding them voids Jump but who knows , )
Right now as I see it, Sony, HTC , Samsung and even LG are all locked up and you are gambling staying stock till you are able to Jump yet again. Look at verizon's and ATT bootloaders , they are still locked, and all of our knoxes are tripped. I absolutely hate saying this but the difference in modding between Apple and Android is going to get very blurred. Can you imagine yourself with an iphone?
waw , end of rant ! thanks for the thread that finally let me vent, I hope the thread wont get moved to general
let us know you decision !!
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I definitely will. No worries about that. I've had a lot of people say get the HTC one since it has Dev edition. Which makes sense because it is basically the more improved nexus.
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What are you talking about, we've got: cm, carbon ROM, temasek, will03, team gummy, probably others that I'm missing. You've only got one phone, how much flashing do you actually do? But this phone beasts every phone out there as far looks and specs go
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What are you talking about, we've got: cm, carbon ROM, temasek, will03, team gummy, probably others that I'm missing. You've only got one phone, how much flashing do you actually do? But this phone beasts every phone out there as far looks and specs go
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Enough to know I have 2.
Besides, cm you can't even make phone calls from. And most of those you listed are cm based. The problem is that cm doesn't have active devs working on fixing the issues. We still don't have NFC, which plagues every ROM that is cm based. When the source isn't being worked on, how can you expect the rest to be any better? Really the best ROM out for the Note 3 is either carbon, if you like it, or stock KitKat. Pretty sad from what I see. Especially since I got this phone mainly for the development support and because it is so bad ass. But what good is that when you can't get consistent performance out of any of the roms, including stock.
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jmichaels1982 said:
I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance )
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It won't.
I returned a Knox 0x1 Note 3 to T-Mobile under the basic manufacturer's warranty (I don't pay for insurance because I never, ever destroyed a phone in my life) and got a brand new replacement, no questions asked. Many others have reported success returning/trading in Knox 0x1 devices to T-Mobile as well; do a search.
The only things they care about are no physical damage, untripped liquid intrusion sticker, and that it turns on. T-Mobile's refurbisher resets the Knox flag back to 0x0 when they refurbish the phone anyway. Obviously, flash it back to unrooted stock and do a factory reset before you send it in.
Cost me a total of $20 for the T-Mobile warranty processing fee.
If you send it back straight to Samsung, though, they'll deny warranty service as BER (beyond economical repair). T-Mobile FTW.
This may help in your decision.
http://youtu.be/eZ5fl3cHsDY
I see your point
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It won't.
I returned a Knox 0x1 Note 3 to T-Mobile under the basic manufacturer's warranty (I don't pay for insurance because I never, ever destroyed a phone in my life) and got a brand new replacement, no questions asked. Many others have reported success returning/trading in Knox 0x1 devices to T-Mobile as well; do a search.
The only things they care about are no physical damage, untripped liquid intrusion sticker, and that it turns on. T-Mobile's refurbisher resets the Knox flag back to 0x0 when they refurbish the phone anyway. Obviously, flash it back to unrooted stock and do a factory reset before you send it in.
Cost me a total of $20 for the T-Mobile warranty processing fee.
If you send it back straight to Samsung, though, they'll deny warranty service as BER (beyond economical repair). T-Mobile FTW.
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Right that is the current situation. I am just afraid of the future since I am sure t-mobile will catch on to it with samsung denying claims for knox tripped phones. Hence my statement, go get a knox free phone that you can mod without fear of losing Jump in the future.
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I definitely will. No worries about that. I've had a lot of people say get the HTC one since it has Dev edition. Which makes sense because it is basically the more improved nexus.
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How do you Jump to a developer edition device ? I thought these are not offered on t-mobile Jump plans
hi whats'up guys .....ur neighbor from xperia sp community
i'm going to buy this phone really soon (like in 1 week) and i need to know should i buy it or what ? is it really bad ? or is it really good ....yes i saw a lot of reviews of it but i need real time users experience....
is the mm update is going to be real or asus is fooling us ? i know there is cm13 for this phone but i want to buy a phone that support the 6.0+ officially ....so any review or ideas or advises from u guys will be great ....thanks alot
p.s: i'm gonna go for the 4gb ram model if i'm going to buy it
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hi whats'up guys .....ur neighbor from xperia sp community
i'm going to buy this phone really soon (like in 1 week) and i need to know should i buy it or what ? is it really bad ? or is it really good ....yes i saw a lot of reviews of it but i need real time users experience....
is the mm update is going to be real or asus is fooling us ? i know there is cm13 for this phone but i want to buy a phone that support the 6.0+ officially ....so any review or ideas or advises from u guys will be great ....thanks alot
p.s: i'm gonna go for the 4gb ram model if i'm going to buy it
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considering asus themselves have set an actual release date then we can assume that m is coming. as for recommending the phone? yes absolutely!
its gets good reception, its plenty fast, battery life could be better but let hope m fixes that, asus has been great with updates providing 1 every month if not more, the camera is decent. i mean i could go on but the point has been made, its a great phone and i recommend it to everyone who needs a device and is on a budget. you just cant beat this phone for this price.
You shouln't buy this phone.
Buy mi5 instead
The good:
Price, performance, lightweight ui, bl unlock without losing warranty, superb reception, fast charger, good audio output, dualsim AND microsd slot, kvm windows, wine for android soon to be released, no bugs that i can think of.
The bad: camera quality, power button position (although i never use it), battery life (around 5hrs sot and 48hrs standby when not gaming), missing pocket mode, so the device sometimes wakes up when in pocket, using d2tw, rather small xda community.
If you need a true smartphone, for productivity that can do practically anything, you should get it.
If you're a custom rom freak and you're used to flash and test a new rom every week, this phone is not for you.
This phone it's like: buy, root, set it up, use it.
Oh.. and don't get the 2gb ram version.
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You shouln't buy this phone.
Buy mi5 instead
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Mi5 that is currently going for $440/$515/$587 on Gearbest? Completely different price bracket.
Zenfone 3 is around the corner and u are thinking of buying zenfone 2, i will say no, do not do so
No, the device is too old and does not receive new software quickly. Android N is well underway, but ASUS has still not released Android M. Android N will probably never come to ZenFone 2 is official form, and the unofficial roms may be hampered by bugs due to the (for android) uncommon hardware platform.
This phone is fine if you are not a power user. The camera is fine, all cell phone cameras suck, so if you want better pics buy a Nikon DSLR. Don't listen to the complaints about software updates. Android updates are an issue for all manufacturers, not just Asus. This is why android is so segmented. Asus has confirmed M for this device, but I don't expect N. The people complaining about this are retarded, and can spend $600-800 for a cheap Korean piece of crap then see how long it is supported with updates.
I have a 2gb model, and it is fine. At this point of the year I would wait for the next model, but if you need it now this is a fine phone. Again it is $200, so you get what you pay for.
I recommend a case because the plastic bezel is cheap and scratches easily, again a $200 phone.
If I was going to spend more money I would consider the Huawei Mate 8.
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You shouln't buy this phone.
Buy mi5 instead
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only known brands are available in my country ....so it's impossible to get that and i need something in the same price
thanks for all for this ...i don't care about android n i care about MM only actually ....and i'm gonna get the 4gb model for sure ....so i think i'm gonna buy it ...
p.s: i am a rom flashing freak but the thing is this is a very important year for me and i can't spend much time on that ...just need it for medium games and social apps only
good choice, this phone is great at this price range, and can handle games rather well(I run psx, psp, nes, snes emulators without issues). as for roms, dev community is quite good and CM13 is pretty stable.
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My last phone was a Xperia Z1compact (small size phone), but now i want try a big size phon, i will buy a ZE551ml 4GB/64Gb.
Is this phone Good for Read manga, read books, and have a good multitask (facebook,youtube,whastapp,twitter all at the sametime)?
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My last phone was a Xperia Z1compact (small size phone), but now i want try a big size phon, i will buy a ZE551ml 4GB/64Gb.
Is this phone Good for Read manga, read books, and have a good multitask (facebook,youtube,whastapp,twitter all at the sametime)?
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+1 ....i'm just like u ...i'm gonna buy the 4gb\32gb.........and i wanted it for that+playing some games and if u want my opinion i think this phone can do what we need it to do and asus said it will release in Q2 2016 MM for it so that's a good thing
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This phone is fine if you are not a power user. The camera is fine, all cell phone cameras suck, so if you want better pics buy a Nikon DSLR. Don't listen to the complaints about software updates. Android updates are an issue for all manufacturers, not just Asus. This is why android is so segmented. Asus has confirmed M for this device, but I don't expect N. The people complaining about this are retarded, and can spend $600-800 for a cheap Korean piece of crap then see how long it is supported with updates.
I have a 2gb model, and it is fine. At this point of the year I would wait for the next model, but if you need it now this is a fine phone. Again it is $200, so you get what you pay for.
I recommend a case because the plastic bezel is cheap and scratches easily, again a $200 phone.
If I was going to spend more money I would consider the Huawei Mate 8.
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if we are retarded because we are not a$$lickers, then maybe you are right, but there are plenty of evidence the support our opinion on this chinese fraud.
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a bunch of bipolars here. everybody agrees on the big faults on this phone, but at the same time you recommended like you were paid to do it. i don't get it.
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if we are retarded because we are not a$$lickers, then maybe you are right, but there are plenty of evidence the support our opinion on this chinese fraud.
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a bunch of bipolars here. everybody agrees on the big faults on this phone, but at the same time you recommended like you were paid to do it. i don't get it.
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Not bipolar. Complaining about updates is retarded. No manufacturer does a good job of this, except Nexus and maybe you can include Moto. Hard to say that Asus is defrauding the consumer.
You do get what you pay for. Is the case of this phone cheap plastic? Yes. Does the phone have a 1440 screen? No. Etc... Does that mean that this phone is not worth the purchase? No. I am happy with this my purchase, and would consider Asus again. Not an Asus fanboy thou. When I need a new phone I will look at the phone landscape and pic what I think is the best option. The only thing I would not buy is Samsung, because my last phone from them didn't last very long and it was really expensive.
Still.. I haven't found a better phone for the money I've spent for the zf2 (200eur for 4gb/32gb)
I wouldn't recommend you to buy this phone today anymore. The only reason you might want to have this phone is because of the price. But don't expect good support and software. (It's possible that MM will be the last major update this phone is getting.) If you really like flashing ROMs then go for it, if not and you only rely on Asus' official releases then better not. Surely there are better phones now. The Zenfone 2 is already one year old. I don't have time to write my whole opinion here so I will only tell you one thing: think hard about it, do you really want this phone. Are there alternatives that you can compare with. Compare is the keyword because everything is relative. Don't only focus on one phone that you want to buy, try to collect info from other phones. At last it may only depend on how much money you want to spend, this may already be a critical point in your situation. So good luck.
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ChiDi9901 said:
I wouldn't recommend you to buy this phone today anymore. The only reason you might want to have this phone is because of the price. But don't expect good support and software. (It's possible that MM will be the last major update this phone is getting.) If you really like flashing ROMs then go for it, if not and you only rely on Asus' official releases then better not. Surely there are better phones now. The Zenfone 2 is already one year old. I don't have time to write my whole opinion here so I will only tell you one thing: think hard about it, do you really want this phone. Are there alternatives that you can compare with. Compare is the keyword because everything is relative. Don't only focus on one phone that you want to buy, try to collect info from other phones. At last it may only depend on how much money you want to spend, this may already be a critical point in your situation. So good luck.
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thanks alot ...i think i decided because i can't spend more than that ....and i want specs like these+flashing is my name so need to relay on asus official stuff
Truth be told, I don't know why are people critisizing the sw and the update frequency.
If I comapre it to Sony (owned a lot of them), the updates are quite frequent. Ok we don't have 5.1.1, but 5.0 isn't bad at all. We do get security updates monthly, when z3 does not. Also z3 hasn't got MM yet (costing twice as much).
Coming from the Sony UI, the ZenUI is the first acceptable alternative I got used to. Lightweight, intuitive and responsive. Not the best looking, I agree. This phone has flaws, but SW isn't one of them.
Also we do have a public kernel source, which is very rare for a non qualcomm chipset.
very good saying indeed ....:good:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.
510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.
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My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
DawarAzhar said:
What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?
I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.
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I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.
Without considering the current state of facts. Imagining I am going to buy the Samsung note 7 in October. What I will do when in a couple of years as hard user the battery have to be replaced? I saw on youtube that is extremely hard to open it , and small fix shops could have some problems. How much it cost to ask Samsung to change it? And will the water resistant feature restored? I mean after all there is any guarantee for water damages. Thanks
You won't care, because the Note 9 will have just come out.
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you are absolutely right!
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You won't care, because the Note 9 will have just come out.
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I do not have any replacement program, if I spend 850 Euro, I would be glad to know how much cost a decent battery substitution
Then with the money I can make selling the unit, maybe I could consider the samsung 9( if touchwiz keep going to be)
Always implying that Sam will give me in Europe the phone the first decade of October. I am in pre-order since end of August:laugh::laugh::laugh:
You'll have to deal with Samsung Repair Centre in 2 years. They will change the battery ... if you put away 5 bucks every month, this should be enough for the service
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Without considering the current state of facts. Imagining I am going to buy the Samsung note 7 in October. What I will do when in a couple of years as hard user the battery have to be replaced? I saw on youtube that is extremely hard to open it , and small fix shops could have some problems. How much it cost to ask Samsung to change it? And will the water resistant feature restored? I mean after all there is any guarantee for water damages. Thanks
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Customer Irreplaceable batteries are the direction most of the major flagship mobiles have headed.
This is not an isolated situation to Samsung.
As the mobile is water resistant such a mobile should only be repaired by Samsung officially recognised technicians. After a battery or other repair has been carried out an OFFICIAL authorised store will pressure test the device to ensure its continued water and dust resistance complies with the IP rating.
This will cost. That's one of the facts of life we accept when we make such a purchase.
At present technology can't produce what all customers want without compromise.
The majority of today's technology has built in obsolescence. Its the speed this technology is developing due to customer demands that causes such situations.
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This will cost.
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Fair enough. But how much?
OK is not nice, but you accept if you like Samsung.
But do I have the right, when I buy the device to know how much it will be? And even to know if this means I have to ship my telephone incurring in further cost, and not have the telephone in the time being.
nb. Imagine that sam employees are human beings and can make a mistake, as the telephone is not insured against water damage.. how can I prove that they did not do a proper work if when come back to me is not water resistant anymore?
Anyway at least i am grateful to samsung that give me the possibility to put an sd card afterall
look at the cost of the S6/S7 it will probably be similar.
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Fair enough. But how much?
OK is not nice, but you accept if you like Samsung.
But do I have the right, when I buy the device to know how much it will be? And even to know if this means I have to ship my telephone incurring in further cost, and not have the telephone in the time being.
nb. Imagine that sam employees are human beings and can make a mistake, as the telephone is not insured against water damage.. how can I prove that they did not do a proper work if when come back to me is not water resistant anymore?
Anyway at least i am grateful to samsung that give me the possibility to put an sd card afterall
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Hi. I cant answer your question and further doubt anyone can. In two years who knows the cost of manual labour and parts?
Your second point is rather moot as when we make the initial purchase we are trusting Samsung that what they claim regarding the IP of their mobile is correct. Same trust would apply after an official repair had been made. There are no 100€ guarantees in life.
Out of interest why do you mention a specific two year period? Battery life will depend on user use and could, theoretically, be from 1 year (?) to.........who knows?
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look at the cost of the S6/S7 it will probably be similar.
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Indeed but the poster is asking about prices in two years time, sort of requesting a forecast that I don't think can be given today?
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Hi. I cant answer your question and further doubt anyone can. In two years who knows the cost of manual labour and parts?
Your second point is rather moot as when we make the initial purchase we are trusting Samsung that what they claim regarding the IP of their mobile is correct. Same trust would apply after an official repair had been made. There are no 100€ guarantees in life.
Out of interest why do you mention a specific two year period? Battery life will depend on user use and could, theoretically, be from 1 year (?) to.........who knows?
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Ryland thank you again for the interest. Well I calculated 400 cycles of 1,5 days, that make roughly 2 years.
I hope samsung will be smart enough to embrace an eink real time screen cover( they are NOT really smart in my opinion to not do it, they would make much more money, also if this means batteries will be substitute less, but in the end I am sure people will go also to cheap 3d parties that give guarantee of not exploding batteries, after all the water resistant thing is nice, but for years we survived without it, even because at the current state of facts, nobody can bring the samsung under the shower or having a bath, because the guarantee does not cover, so is for incidental problems the water resistance, exactly the same risk I buy the screen even if could shatter)
and it depends on how intesive you use your device. if you need to load it every second or third day, you'll have a nice battery in two years. If you need to charge it twice a day, you might really need to replace it ...
your working on needing a new battery in 2 years from charging less than once a day? I charged my S6 some days up to 3 times a day for about 18 months and the battery is still working fine.
the batteries are a lot more durable than a lot of people make out.
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your working on needing a new battery in 2 years from charging less than once a day? I charged my S6 some days up to 3 times a day for about 18 months and the battery is still working fine.
the batteries are a lot more durable than a lot of people make out.
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True. Specially if you keep them between 40% - 80%.
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True. Specially if you keep them between 40% - 80%.
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guys please I cannot understand this.
It is maybe undoubtedly true that charging more times the battery during the day at the condition that you maintain between 40 and 80% will last more than if I charge from 5 to 100% every two days?
Please shed some scientific light on that, specifically for samsung fast charging context
thanks
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guys please I cannot understand this.
It is maybe undoubtedly true that charging more times the battery during the day at the condition that you maintain between 40 and 80% will last more than if I charge from 5 to 100% every two days?
Please shed some scientific light on that, specifically for samsung fast charging context
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There you go:
https://www.wirelessdesignmag.com/b...hould-stop-fully-charging-your-smartphone-now
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/the_high_power_lithium_ion
In the U.S., Samsung charges $45 for an out of warranty battery replacement for a S6. The battery is warranted to hold an 80% charge for a year and if it doesn't replacing it is free. Apple charges $75 for an iPhone battery replacement. So I'd imagine the 7-series phones are somewhere between $45-75.
come on, please, think ! in two years, all your concerns will be wayyyy differernt!, so, start enjoying your really beatyful device, and forget all innesesary future concerns
thank you everyone,
up to 80 EU is fine considering the product, I am counting the days they will start to sell.
Hi guys,
I am a Xiaomi fan for 2 years. I think about buying the upcoming Redmi note 5 pro but I just saw a guy selling a 32GB - Google Pixel XL with same price (without any accessories like adapter or cable). I think I should come here and ask for you guys opinion about this device. Should I choose this phone for next 2 years of usage?.
Thank you
tungthanh500 said:
Hi guys,
I am a Xiaomi fan for 2 years. I think about buying the upcoming Redmi note 5 pro but I just saw a guy selling a 32GB - Google Pixel XL with same price (without any accessories like adapter or cable). I think I should come here and ask for you guys opinion about this device. Should I choose this phone for next 2 years of usage?.
Thank you
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It is all based on opinion. If you are the type that wants the latest version of Android especially as P is out in dev preview then I would suggest the Pixel XL.
I would say no. The phones have hardware problems and google doesn't give a crap unless you are within their warranty period. My phone went into a bootloop on its own just a month after the warranty went up and google could care less. They pond you off to a third party repair shop. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the phone and how disgusted I was with the entire situation. I wish I never bought this phone.
blitzkriegoutlaw said:
I would say no. The phones have hardware problems and google doesn't give a crap unless you are within their warranty period. My phone went into a bootloop on its own just a month after the warranty went up and google could care less. They pond you off to a third party repair shop. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the phone and how disgusted I was with the entire situation. I wish I never bought this phone.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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blitzkriegoutlaw said:
I would say no. The phones have hardware problems and google doesn't give a crap unless you are within their warranty period. My phone went into a bootloop on its own just a month after the warranty went up and google could care less. They pond you off to a third party repair shop. I can't tell you the number of times I was on the phone and how disgusted I was with the entire situation. I wish I never bought this phone.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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Yeah, and mine is fine without any issues, like many, many others. Sorry that this guy has had a problem, but this kinda thing (suddenly crashing just out of warranty) as a random event is rare, and in that sense can happen to anything. Very few companies do anything out of warranty and push you the same direction. Be disgusted with the capitalist system instead, that's what really matters in these cases.
You've got to make your own mind up, OP, rather than wait for horror stories (above) or raving reviews. It's a decent phone if you keep the focus on the SW rather than HW, with the latter being unspectacular but solid despite being behind the curve. You can probably find better for around the same, but it depends what you want.
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Isn't android just android. The software is the same and only the hardware and how long it last is what makes a difference. I bought a pixel phone because I thought it would be quality. Google charges a premium price compared to other vendors. Google extended the warranty on pixel 2 because they knew their phones have numerous hardware issues. Just know that your phone may be an expensive brick any time after the warranty period. Their phones are not reliable. If you do buy one make sure to unlock the bootloader immediately so you can fix issues that come along.
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Google phones are maturing.. They just now got away from the generic plastic phones with crap hardware. Give them sometime to get it together.
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Isn't android just android. The software is the same and only the hardware and how long it last is what makes a difference. I bought a pixel phone because I thought it would be quality. Google charges a premium price compared to other vendors. Google extended the warranty on pixel 2 because they knew their phones have numerous hardware issues. Just know that your phone may be an expensive brick any time after the warranty period. Their phones are not reliable. If you do buy one make sure to unlock the bootloader immediately so you can fix issues that come along.
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No, android isn't just android (eg stock PXL android is different from aosp). My PXL is perfectly reliable as are most others, it's a pity that some people experience issues.
Everyone should do some research before buying a phone. Even a brief glance at reviews (including prerelease) tells you that the PXL is not the highest quality, most premium HW, but the SW is the standout (eg camera).
I say yes, best phone I ever had. Easy to fix a boot loop and easy to update. Great battery life. Easy to root with Magisk. If you come accross a good deal, buy it.