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[Q] opinion needed thinking of selling it already..

Need help guys these niggles are starting to bother me...
1.the heat problem when playing games for longer than 5 mins is stupid its even worse when you turn off the auto turn down brightness restriction off..super gets hot...if you dont play games its fine general browsing etc
2.the warm colour effects are not right colours look washed out at times..
3.battery barely lasts a day which i think is linked to heat problem..cpu working at 1 million miles per hour lol.
4.qhd tech makes either games look horrible or look ok or dont exists on the playstore (device not compatible) or some games simply crash
I love the looks, the feel, and operation
Im an occasional user, dont play games for long, great phone
But my question is will firmwares fix these problems?? Or is it the fact if we dont play games. And put up with rest its fine??

It's a new device so in my opinion you should wait for firmware updates rather than selling it now.

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It's a new device so in my opinion you should wait for firmware updates rather than selling it now.
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I know but 801 chip i feel isnt really designed for qhd..where the rumored prime has 805..so lg had to make sacrifices to make it all work how it should.
It puzzles me how LG allowed a phone to come out with issues that in many cases isnt minor the heat issue especially..and compensate they turn the brightness down turning tge restriction off on the hidden simply fries when you are playing any games
I hope LG has magic up there sleeves i do..

Sell it... to me for $10.

If you don't like it, sell it
Personally I don't have any of the issues you're mentioning, extra heat is no big deal in my opinion, and I play games a lot.... Battery time is good for me, around 4h to 4h30 screen-on time, better than my tweaked S4 was.
In fact the only issue I have with the phone currently is the size, I still find it a little too big for my hands, but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually
For your question, firmware fixes will probably make a little bit of a difference for battery / heating, but you're likely to have better results with custom kernel, when they become available (I'd say we still have a couple of weeks to wait before we see some serious development happening on the G3).

nobnut said:
Sell it... to me for $10.
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Deal at $11? Lol

Protagoras said:
If you don't like it, sell it
Personally I don't have any of the issues you're mentioning, extra heat is no big deal in my opinion, and I play games a lot.... Battery time is good for me, around 4h to 4h30 screen-on time, better than my tweaked S4 was.
In fact the only issue I have with the phone currently is the size, I still find it a little too big for my hands, but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually
For your question, firmware fixes will probably make a little bit of a difference for battery / heating, but you're likely to have better results with custom kernel, when they become available (I'd say we still have a couple of weeks to wait before we see some serious development happening on the G3).
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I think will wait but the niggles of 805 chip is knocking on the door is bothering me a little...and toast effect when playing games

I must admit, I'm contemplating selling mine too though I don't really have any of the problems you mention. Just not feeling it for some reason. I have backlight bleed all the way round but, again, it doesn't bother me much.
I'm thinking about the galaxy prime (or F). Ideally something with a 5.2inch amoled screen (1080p would do) with slim bezel and metal back, removable battery, sd-card slot...
The Xiaomi mi3 looks nice if the spec was upped a bit
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In the meantime I've ordered a case and car cradle. I'll give it a week or so, I just thought for the money, I'd be more excited
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jetsetwilly said:
I must admit, I'm contemplating selling mine too though I don't really have any of the problems you mention. Just not feeling it for some reason. I have backlight bleed all the way round but, again, it doesn't bother me much.
I'm thinking about the galaxy prime (or F). Ideally something with a 5.2inch amoled screen (1080p would do) with slim bezel and metal back, removable battery, sd-card slot...
The Xiaomi mi3 looks nice if the spec was upped a bit
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In the meantime I've ordered a case and car cradle. I'll give it a week or so, I just thought for the money, I'd be more excited
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Yep same here you expect to have god in the palm of your hands and you don't I'm thinking about the prime as well funnily enough,,,,that excites me more than what I have and the thing isn't confirmed if its real yet and plus it will have a smaller screen...I like the lg g3 size its nice...
Yes a few more weeks...hopefully devs we pick up the pace with custom roms etc,,,

I have always had the reasoning, soon as you doubt something and want to sell it. Do so, otherwise you'll be looking for niggles and you'll find them and then it'll just annoy you until you sell it on.
Ultimately only you can decide, but if you're already doubting it. Get shot now while you can and won't lose any money.

radicalisto said:
I have always had the reasoning, soon as you doubt something and want to sell it. Do so, otherwise you'll be looking for niggles and you'll find them and then it'll just annoy you until you sell it on.
Ultimately only you can decide, but if you're already doubting it. Get shot now while you can and won't lose any money.
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Wow that's a good thing to say...you are right in what you say....still don't know now lol..

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Wow that's a good thing to say...you are right in what you say....still don't know now lol..
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Hi Guys...
Well its on ebay now...I just wasn't feeling it...
Good luck guys, hope all works out LG fix the kinks and the devs flood the gates with custom roms etc..

I am in the same boat as you. Think about selling or returning it everyday but the issue is I am on AT&T. If I return it then I don't see any other viable option. Not interested in S5 ( no more Samsung), can't stand the black bar on M8 and obviously a big no for microscopic iPhone. So I would have to sell it. So for the time being I am just using it carefully and if I don't see any unlocking for bootloader I will sell it in a month and go back to using my N5.

Returning mine to cpw for a refund even tho I've had for a month there willing to refund me

just sell it and get an iphone

no one listened to me :silly: lg g3 not ready for prime time :silly: but i guess i am just crazy returned mine the 2nd day

daddioj said:
no one listened to me :silly: lg g3 not ready for prime time :silly: but i guess i am just crazy returned mine the 2nd day
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lol funny that's what people said about the LG G Pad too,,, until roms and firmware came out for it....My only gripe with the G3 is I'm not rooted yet as there is not one for the sprint version, but I know its coming

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lol funny that's what people said about the LG G Pad too,,, until roms and firmware came out for it....My only gripe with the G3 is I'm not rooted yet as there is not one for the sprint version, but I know its coming
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well here's my logic. the moment you need Roms and root to fix a out of the box experience its going back. :good: sometimes its nice to buy a phone and just use it. but yes this is XDA so go ahead throw rocks at me

I played with one at a store the other day and was not impressed. It definitely looks and feels nicer than the G2 (I owned) but I saw so much lag I couldn't believe it.
If LG sold that as a Nexus I'd sell my Nexus 5 in a split second. They've come much farther with their UI than the G2 (hated that UI with a passion) but it's still clunky.
There is NO reason lag should be present on a 2014 flagship phone with 3GB of RAM. No excuse other than pooey software.

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I played with one at a store the other day and was not impressed. It definitely looks and feels nicer than the G2 (I owned) but I saw so much lag I couldn't believe it.
If LG sold that as a Nexus I'd sell my Nexus 5 in a split second. They've come much farther with their UI than the G2 (hated that UI with a passion) but it's still clunky.
There is NO reason lag should be present on a 2014 flagship phone with 3GB of RAM. No excuse other than pooey software.
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point blank 2k screen. 801 and adreno 330. dont care what anyone says. same thing applies to a pc when pushing more pixels

Is this phone still worth it?

Hello all. I come over from the Nexus 5 forums, and as much as I love my N5, its definitely starting to show it's age with it's out-dated specs, terrible battery, and inadequate storage (I have the Sprint 16gb model). I was looking at different phones to move on to, and even though money is sorrrrrtttttt of a factor (not really), I've been bouncing around what's available and affordable, since I'm sitting on an upgrade right now. My choices are:
Samsung Galaxy S6 - Best camera, decent starting development scene, non-removeable battery and storage, lackluster battery.
LG G4 - Can get for $100 at Best Buy. Good camera, good screen, good battery, removable everything, no development scene.
Or...
LG G3 - Can get for $1 (Read, ONE DOLLAR) at Best Buy. Good camera, good screen, good battery, removable everything, established development scene.
My biggest concern when it comes to buying a phone is how good the development scene is, or how much potential it has. The LG G3 is already established as a fine phone, its just... The G4 has updated specs on an already high-end phone. Which begs the question, is it worth spending $100 for the top of the line, or better to spend $1 for an extremely capable veteran that can still hang with the best of them?
Halp plz.
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if i were you, i would get the gs6, if not, then g4 it is.
i am thinking about getting a g3, but after googling about the phone, i found the it has very bad battery life,
but i am still thinking

This a bit of a tough call... I was in the same situation a few months ago. I ended up going g3.
So far the phone has treated me well (Coming from an original HTC one BTW). I do wish the battery life was a bit better, it really is just average. Though I'm betting it would still last noticeably longer than your Nexus.
The dev community for the g3 is pretty solid, About as established as you could hope for...... on the GSM models.
Keep in mind that the Sprint model of the g3 does not and will not, have nearly as much dev support as the the other models. And this is gonna be the case with any phone you get on sprint unless you go nexus 6 maybe.
If your worried about development primarily then I would ditch sprint and revisit this. Haha
Not super constructive, I know.
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FanDroid09 said:
This a bit of a tough call... I was in the same situation a few months ago. I ended up going g3.
So far the phone has treated me well (Coming from an original HTC one BTW). I do wish the battery life was a bit better, it really is just average. Though I'm betting it would still last noticeably longer than your Nexus.
The dev community for the g3 is pretty solid, About as established as you could hope for...... on the GSM models.
Keep in mind that the Sprint model of the g3 does not and will not, have nearly as much dev support as the the other models. And this is gonna be the case with any phone you get on sprint unless you go nexus 6 maybe.
If your worried about development primarily then I would ditch sprint and revisit this. Haha
Not super constructive, I know.
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That's kind of the one thing I never really understood about the dev scene with these phones; how come its almost always the case that the CDMA variants usually end up getting the shaft with development? Maybe it has something to do with the radios or something, but I never really quite understood it.
I'm also a very impatient person. I will try to hold out for something as long as I can, but then temptation just ends up driving me nuts. With that being said, I AM thinking about holding off for just a little while longer and maybe try going for the Moto X Pure (Is that the US edition?), because even with all these fancy spec upgrades on all these newer phones, I still don't think they can properly run in the grand scheme of things under their own weight, i.e. TouchWiz, LG UI, etc. Stock Android is still the best way to go with all these upgrades, I believe, and that's what I'm gonna try and hold out for. Still waiting on the fabled Nexus 5 2015 release, but that's a whole 'nother story.
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iamterence said:
That's kind of the one thing I never really understood about the dev scene with these phones; how come its almost always the case that the CDMA variants usually end up getting the shaft with development? Maybe it has something to do with the radios or something, but I never really quite understood it.
I'm also a very impatient person. I will try to hold out for something as long as I can, but then temptation just ends up driving me nuts. With that being said, I AM thinking about holding off for just a little while longer and maybe try going for the Moto X Pure (Is that the US edition?), because even with all these fancy spec upgrades on all these newer phones, I still don't think they can properly run in the grand scheme of things under their own weight, i.e. TouchWiz, LG UI, etc. Stock Android is still the best way to go with all these upgrades, I believe, and that's what I'm gonna try and hold out for. Still waiting on the fabled Nexus 5 2015 release, but that's a whole 'nother story.
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I would stick with the nexus line, its a disgrace that an 2 years old flagship has to wait almost a year for a crucial (from security reasons) update. I came from nexus 4 and i regret i left nexus for it.
I had a lot of problems with apps also, for ex. deezer or napster. U just need to be aware that all devs are writing their apps for the nexus in the first place.
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LG G4 is the best choice, except for CPU performance which is objectively excellent, but poor relatively to other devices like the cited SGS6.
I think you're not an "AnTuTu maniac", so buy it without any remorse, you'll have a 64-bit terminal with both removable battery and expandable storage [emoji106]
If you want a recent and expensive terminal, be aware of G3, as it's no longer a top of the range and it's based on the 32-bit CPU architecture.

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That's kind of the one thing I never really understood about the dev scene with these phones; how come its almost always the case that the CDMA variants usually end up getting the shaft with development? Maybe it has something to do with the radios or something, but I never really quite understood it.
I'm also a very impatient person. I will try to hold out for something as long as I can, but then temptation just ends up driving me nuts. With that being said, I AM thinking about holding off for just a little while longer and maybe try going for the Moto X Pure (Is that the US edition?), because even with all these fancy spec upgrades on all these newer phones, I still don't think they can properly run in the grand scheme of things under their own weight, i.e. TouchWiz, LG UI, etc. Stock Android is still the best way to go with all these upgrades, I believe, and that's what I'm gonna try and hold out for. Still waiting on the fabled Nexus 5 2015 release, but that's a whole 'nother story.
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Ya I've been around xda for quite a while and I've noticed the same thing with CDMA phones... The best answer I have is that generally they are harder to dev for because of their firmware, they tend to be more locked down, and not as many devs purchase those devices.
That's a smart move in my opinion... The new moto x, Sony z5, and nexus are all gonna be out in the next couple of months. You might really be kicking yourself in the a** if you don't wait and see haha.
I personally think Sony phones are very underrated I'd have a z3 right now if Sony would stop screwing around and get their devices back on more US carriers. I think the z5 is gonna be nice.
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It's still the best phone I've ever owned so far.

If you are going for 2 years contract, definitely get something else like gs6 or g4. If you are thinking about a cheap prepaid plan, buy g3, s5, or m8 - phone only.

That's right. Don't get a G3 on a contract. In fact don't buy any phone on a contract. It most certainly does not cost $1. You will pay many many hundreds of dollars over 2 years. My advice is to buy the Moto x pure for $399.

Is it still worth getting the G4?

I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks

CM support as in cyanogenmod? Unless if you're getting the very specific model that can be unlocked, I'd say look else where.
I know the Nexus 6P would be a nice choice for both CM and a decent camera. Not sure if the S6 has an unlocked bootloader, if it does, then that's a great choice as well since their camera is just about as good as the G4.

I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.

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I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.
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nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.

How do you know that's wrong? There have been a few G4's in the 600's that bootlooped, as reported on here and other boards. Even fixed G4's are re-looping.
Fact is, the early G4's have been bootlooping recently and we can't say that any newer ones won't until some time passes. It's a time bomb situation. It's not a chance I'm willing to take on a $400 plus device.

Thanks to all for responses

No. Too many devices are bootlooping. Mine was bricked from it last week. Save your money and buy a Nexus 6p

samitro said:
I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks
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Good camera and CM don't mix. Pick one. Any time you add CM you lose the stock camera.
The nexus will work but they are only a decent camera (lacks OIS) so not as good as the stock G4 camera.
is it worth getting a G4 ? heh of course. What else can compete with it now at the going price.
Never selling mine. It will be with me until it dies
Look for serials 510 and over and you will be ok. Try to get with warranty.

Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.

No, just get another brand, lg sucks.

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Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.
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I'm on a 510 series with zero issues but the battery life is crap but they do have tons of bigger batteries out there like the 6000 mah one from mpj
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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.

I wouldn't get a phone that has been widely reported as probably dying at any possible time.

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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.
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Same here...
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Aellaes said:
nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.
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Not really. Mine is with 601 S/N and i have the screen flickering problem..

How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?

Jesus, what a load of rubbish from some users! The G4 was one of the best devices of 2015, as chosen by every single reviewer out there! Maybe not No1, but definitly among the top. I have owned 3 G4 units at different stages, and am using one right now, and have had 0 issues. It is a perfect phone in every way especially with the low price tag. Sure, I would take a Galaxy Note 5 or S7 Edge over the G4 , but considering im paying about 1/2 of the price (at least in my country, New Zealand), im pretty happy! Flagship specs and performance with half the price.
I will be upgrading to the HTC 10 once it is available, but the G4 has absolutely served me well, and highly recommended to anyone.

All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.

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All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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That's true, you can't deny the hardware issues that happens to some, even though it didn't happen to me. But come on now, the G3 ovee the G4? The ui was just too laggy on the G3, not to mention that horrible over sharpening of the screen. I would still happily pick the G4, CONSIDERING the price difference between the G4 and other flagships. If money was no issue then definitly I would go for other devices. But the value for money is just too good to pass on.
Anyway, I will be back to my beloved HTC once the htc 10 hits the market. Looks like a solid comeback from htc. You might disagree but I will cherish my time with the G4 [emoji4]
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There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
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Nothing but offer repairs ? what pray tell is LG to do.
Those that bought with warranty are covered for as long as the term is.
Those that bought without warranty were taking on a risk. This is true with anything. But then people are so passionate in this forum about phones that nobody thinks twice. And they will do it again in a heartbeat
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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Camera on the G4 is a generation jump. The same module was used in the G2, G3 and G flex 1 & 2. They changed it with the G4 and what a difference it makes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-poll-users-hardware-failure-t3303547
Puts things into perspective doesn't it.

Anyone planning to switch to S8 when it's available?

Anyone planning to switch to S8 when it's available? I am mainly comtemplating it because of the big screen. My main concern however is the build quality. What are your thoughts?

Lower screen to body ratio = more screen to break.
And KNOX = no sale.

Nah, Samsung pushed too far, like Xiaomi MIX. Good to look but hard to bring it in daily life because you have to be very careful all the time.

For sure not. Perhaps the OP 5 or the HTC 11. And if they don't convince me, I'll stay at the 10 for sure :good:

Depends on whether you like development? It's not like Samsung has exactly been friendly towards that. Biggest deciding factor for me anyway.

I'm finding it harder and harder to justify purchasing new phones when there is no real-world difference. I'm perfectly fine with my 10, why should I even "upgrade" when it won't really change anything? I also decided a long time ago to never purchase a Samsung device again and I have no reason to change that, but as far as other brands are concerned my initial comment still stands.

I'm pretty sure it'll be an amazing phone in terms of hardware, however the software will probably hurt the experience as always.
I've been thinking in switching because the random stutters, jank and ****ty wifi of the HTC 10 have made me hate the thing. The S8 will probably also stutter so meh.

HTC 10 and all snapdragon 820 phones are perfectly fine with the performance, and offered a big upgrade from the 810. Camera quality has also reached a stage where companies are offering fine improvements (mainly in low light).
Some other specs (particularly RAM) have hit the limit of what the software can manage or need. It's now about keeping more apps in the background. Overkill.
I guess that upgrading a phone every year is no longer a feasible and wise option, unless someone wipes his butt with money.

Sure the new hardware will be stunning, but coming from an HTC, the Samsung software will be difficult to swallow. Better wait for the HTC 11 until you make a decision.

It'll be a great phone I'm sure, plus the bezel less screen is definitely a plus..Sammy has to get the S8 right to make up for the cluster **** they did with the note.
I've always updated yearly however I think this may be the first time I don't, people do say that Sammy development is lacking but the development for my favourite Sammy phone S5 was brilliant it had everything, but I found myself always looking over the fence at HTC, theres just something about their devices.
If anything I'll wait for the 11 , but to be honest, the 10 is a beast and with a little love and tweaking there's nothing to gain besides skin deep changes.
Short answer ! Nah I'll skip it although I am curious to see what it's like.
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No.
I had the S2, Galaxy Nexus, and S3. But when they announced the introduction of Knox on the S4, that was the end of them for me.
And they keep trying to make it harder to root so that you can't uninstall the Samsung bloatware.
No thank you. Never Samsung again.

Cinner said:
Sure the new hardware will be stunning, but coming from an HTC, the Samsung software will be difficult to swallow. Better wait for the HTC 11 until you make a decision.
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Pretty much how I feel. Regardless of how much effort is put into the hardware, I just know it will all be ruined by their software.

I'm not switching to the S8. Not a fan at all of Samung's software and Boomsound is just too good to give up.

Thanks for everyone's reply. Seems like software limitation is the main concern here. My only samsung phone was the S2 and I'm not well aware of KNOX. what is its shortcoming? Is development really lagging for the galaxys? That's hard to believe given that the galaxys are so popular worldwide.
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that. I have no plans to stay on touchwiz. Would KNOX and the lack of development really hinder that? How about warranty? will disabling KNOX void warranty?

Varynn said:
I'm not switching to the S8. Not a fan at all of Samung's software and Boomsound is just too good to give up.
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I would love to use boomsound but bluetooth is just too convenient for me to go back to wired headphones =[

My 10 has been paid in full for a while and atm I am with T-Mobile and have JOD so it's not much of a switch rather than another addition but, yes I'll definitely check it out.

I will just say no to all phone with edge which is pointless and make it very different to read text and use onscreen keyboard. I judge by using mywife s7 edge and 3 weeks with note 7.
I will mostly go back to pixel if it have OIS, but anyway, I don't see the need to replace the HTC 10 right now, although the firmware, nfc, wifi, lack of rgb led disappoint me.
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c19932 said:
Thanks for everyone's reply. Seems like software limitation is the main concern here. My only samsung phone was the S2 and I'm not well aware of KNOX. what is its shortcoming? Is development really lagging for the galaxys? That's hard to believe given that the galaxys are so popular worldwide.
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that. I have no plans to stay on touchwiz. Would KNOX and the lack of development really hinder that? How about warranty? will disabling KNOX void warranty?
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If you want a phone with a combination of above average official firmware support, good camera, nice screen, then galaxy and note are a good one, it give ppl most of the thing they want and no so much bug/design fault. Can't say about oneplus as I don't have any.
Any mod to the galaxy will trap the flag and void warranty. Oneplus, Pixel and HTC (with sunshine) may be still the most root friendly.

c19932 said:
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that.
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Well it won't be as easy as that. With the S7, it took 4 months or so before a root exploit was even found. http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...e-with-snapdragon-820-successfully-rooted.htm (released in March, rooted in June)
There was even a bounty put out for whoever could find a way to get root for the AT&T version. https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s7/how-to/bounty-att-s7-root-exploit-t3341274
The S6 was a hard one to root as well.

As an owner of HTC 10 I bought a Galaxy S8 Plus. The first day I was very happy with the decision. Then the problem started. Random reboots like many people are suffering and no solutions nor statement from Samsung.
If anyone like me is thinking to change an HTC to Samsung think twice. I returned that piece of sh**t and HTC U11 here I go. Sad as a design the Galaxy S8 is the most beautiful piece of smartphone but not all is beauty, isn't.

Jadraker said:
As an owner of HTC 10 I bought a Galaxy S8 Plus. The first day I was very happy with the decision. Then the problem started. Random reboots like many people are suffering and no solutions nor statement from Samsung.
If anyone like me is thinking to change an HTC to Samsung think twice. I returned that piece of sh**t and HTC U11 here I go. Sad as a design the Galaxy S8 is the most beautiful piece of smartphone but not all is beauty, isn't.
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If I ever switch to some other smartphone company, it will be Apple...
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LG G6 or HTC 10

Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320

DJ. I'm in the same position so can def help you. I bought the G6 over the HTC simply because the G6 looked good and I thought the thing would eventually get unlocked and we'd have all kinds of custom rooms, etc but nothing just lots of crickets. The phone looks good but without root and roms it gets boring very fast.
I'm in the process of getting the HTC plus cash for the G6 . The HTC has great support and endless roms, trust me go for the HTC.
Let us know what you do !!
Cheers, LL
Also the screen size may be an issue, the HTC screen is bit small but looks mind-blowing.

Sorry but why get the HTC 10? The u11 will be getting viper. Getting the 10 makes no sense.
Besides cost [emoji6]
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The 10 is just much better than the U11 for some of us. Audio jack with amazing sound, full metal body, and manageable smaller size.
And no need to squeeze it

dladz said:
Getting the 10 makes no sense.
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Your post makes no sense :angel:
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Maik268 said:
Your post makes no sense :angel:
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You have no sense
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pomponazzo said:
The 10 is just much better than the U11 for some of us. Audio jack with amazing sound, full metal body, and manageable smaller size.
And no need to squeeze it
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So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
Nothing wrong with the HTC 10 it's a great phone, i'm selling mine shortly myself though, 1+5

dladz said:
So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
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I do not agree. The 10 is a much superior device than the M8 and M9, or HTC Hero :silly:
The U11 doesn't bring anything worth ditching the 10 in my opinion, it's even a downgrade in some aspects. But to each his own, as you say...

DJGREEN1980 said:
Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320
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Phone size is a big factor for some people, camera performance too. But if customization is all you want then you already know the answer.

pomponazzo said:
I do not agree. The 10 is a much superior device than the M8 and M9, or HTC Hero :silly:
The U11 doesn't bring anything worth ditching the 10 in my opinion, it's even a downgrade in some aspects. But to each his own, as you say...
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Lol no not if you already own a 10 no, that wouldn't imho be worth the leap, however the OP hasn't got a 10 has he?
Not sure if your first sentence is legit or not so i'll answer it anyway then put a silly face on just incase it wasn't.
I'm not saying that the 10 is in anyway the same or on par with the 8 9 or the awesome hero
But why say the 10 is better than the 11 for some of us? When given the choice it clearly is not, not in anyway, besides size perhaps ? Nothing else. :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:

dladz said:
Lol no not if you already own a 10 no, that wouldn't imho be worth the leap, however the OP hasn't got a 10 has he?
Not sure if your first sentence is legit or not so i'll answer it anyway then put a silly face on just incase it wasn't.
I'm not saying that the 10 is in anyway the same or on par with the 8 9 or the awesome hero
But why say the 10 is better than the 11 for some of us? When given the choice it clearly is not, not in anyway, besides size perhaps ? Nothing else. :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
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Actually the real question is why would you suggest a phone that wasn't even under consideration by the OP? We don't know why those are the only phones that are to be chosen between, and to suggest something that is almost double the price mentioned, that it "makes no sense" to not go with the 11, makes, well, no sense really.

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Actually the real question is why would you suggest a phone that wasn't even under consideration by the OP? We don't know why those are the only phones that are to be chosen between, and to suggest something that is almost double the price mentioned, that it "makes no sense" to not go with the 11, makes, well, no sense really.
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It makes sense to me. Buying a last gen phone does not. LG G6 perhaps but development will be lacklustre, I suggested it because it DOES make sense and it is what I would do, either that or the one plus five which I've just bought about two hours ago.
Do what you will op you have my two cents.
Now I must be gone because the mediocrity of this thread and it's responses hath caused me to obtain Forrest Whittaker eye and I fear it may be permanent should I remain.. eth.
Good luck to you on your last gen quest, I hope it is fruitful....eth [emoji106]
Leaves room.
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I would get the One Plus 5 if I were in your position. Love the 10 won't get rid of it until it breaks or I get bored of it.

lamplighter13 said:
DJ. I'm in the same position so can def help you. I bought the G6 over the HTC simply because the G6 looked good and I thought the thing would eventually get unlocked and we'd have all kinds of custom rooms, etc but nothing just lots of crickets. The phone looks good but without root and roms it gets boring very fast.
I'm in the process of getting the HTC plus cash for the G6 . The HTC has great support and endless roms, trust me go for the HTC.
Let us know what you do !!
Cheers, LL
Also the screen size may be an issue, the HTC screen is bit small but looks mind-blowing.
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I got my HTC 10 2months ago. LG G6 was the other phone I was considering. Eventually I picked the HTC, because I wanted a compact device with capacitive buttons and fingerprint scanner on the front. So it's mainly due to the usability concerns. Also the $200 price gap between the HTC and LG (DS version with DAC which I was considering) mattered.
I don't think that the speed difference would be noticeable in the daily use. The HTC's camera is on pair. LG has double back lens, but HTC has rear OIS which is nice.
I am happy with my choose. The only thing that is making me wonder is that it's getting a little to hot a little too fast (can get to 37* C during nornal use, just by browsing the web with Opera). My old Samsung Note 3 wasn't getting as hot. Other than that I have no complains.

Luminance said:
I am happy with my choose. The only thing that is making me wonder is that it's getting a little to hot a little too fast (can get to 37* C during nornal use, just by browsing the web with Opera). My old Samsung Note 3 wasn't getting as hot. Other than that I have no complains.
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Just the materials used mate, should still be within it's limits.

dladz said:
You have no sense
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So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
Nothing wrong with the HTC 10 it's a great phone, i'm selling mine shortly myself though, 1+5
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Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.

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Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.
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Two phone numbers on the same phone is pretty cool.

I have a HTC-10 which I purchased second hand for a family member, it has been rooted and I installed LineageOS on it, apart from that I haven't used it all that much but compared to my Nexus 6P my initial thoughts are
Pros:
HTC-10 feels a little faster
Memory card slot
Cons:
Too small (personal preference I guess but I welcome the extra screen real-estate)
Not all stock features are supported in custom ROMs (for example slow motion video)
the speakers aren't as loud as the 6P,
The home button seems to have a slight delay between pressing and registering
The fingerprint sensor is in a terrible spot
I was looking at a LG G6 but the lack of community support means it's not an option for me.
I couldn't recommend either of them really... I'd find it hard pressed to recommend any phone at the moment (I am particular)

comstockload said:
Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.
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Have the 1+5 in my hand, got it today, don't know what all the bad reviews are about, it's a beast.
Selling my HTC 10 now Cheap I want rid of it.

U11 feels too plastic for me compared to the 10, my 10 on Leedroid is very fast, never had an issue, great sound, good camera etc. Going to look at LG V30 when it comes out, 10 will take some beating. I've dropped it 4 times and still looks awesome

I wouldn't buy the u11.
It's too big for me. and that is a big factor. Sure, I'd get used to it, but I want to use the device with 1 hand. The 10 I can still do this, the u11, I wouldn't. Also, a lot of wasted space that I hate. Samsung is winning in that perspective.
I don't like the plastic nor the missing headphone jack, either. I want these things, like the IR blaster, I miss that.
If I was to break my htc 10 tmw, and I do have enough $$ to get the u11 outright, I'd still buy a used 10 off swappa.
Also.. Verizon.. Doesn't have full support, is my understanding, which for that $$, I want.. and need.
my worthless .2 cents, lol