Is it still worth getting the G4? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks

CM support as in cyanogenmod? Unless if you're getting the very specific model that can be unlocked, I'd say look else where.
I know the Nexus 6P would be a nice choice for both CM and a decent camera. Not sure if the S6 has an unlocked bootloader, if it does, then that's a great choice as well since their camera is just about as good as the G4.

I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.

Sammae7 said:
I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.
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nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.

How do you know that's wrong? There have been a few G4's in the 600's that bootlooped, as reported on here and other boards. Even fixed G4's are re-looping.
Fact is, the early G4's have been bootlooping recently and we can't say that any newer ones won't until some time passes. It's a time bomb situation. It's not a chance I'm willing to take on a $400 plus device.

Thanks to all for responses

No. Too many devices are bootlooping. Mine was bricked from it last week. Save your money and buy a Nexus 6p

samitro said:
I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks
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Good camera and CM don't mix. Pick one. Any time you add CM you lose the stock camera.
The nexus will work but they are only a decent camera (lacks OIS) so not as good as the stock G4 camera.
is it worth getting a G4 ? heh of course. What else can compete with it now at the going price.
Never selling mine. It will be with me until it dies
Look for serials 510 and over and you will be ok. Try to get with warranty.

Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.

No, just get another brand, lg sucks.

samitro said:
Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.
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I'm on a 510 series with zero issues but the battery life is crap but they do have tons of bigger batteries out there like the 6000 mah one from mpj
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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.

I wouldn't get a phone that has been widely reported as probably dying at any possible time.

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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.
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Same here...
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Aellaes said:
nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.
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Not really. Mine is with 601 S/N and i have the screen flickering problem..

How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?

Jesus, what a load of rubbish from some users! The G4 was one of the best devices of 2015, as chosen by every single reviewer out there! Maybe not No1, but definitly among the top. I have owned 3 G4 units at different stages, and am using one right now, and have had 0 issues. It is a perfect phone in every way especially with the low price tag. Sure, I would take a Galaxy Note 5 or S7 Edge over the G4 , but considering im paying about 1/2 of the price (at least in my country, New Zealand), im pretty happy! Flagship specs and performance with half the price.
I will be upgrading to the HTC 10 once it is available, but the G4 has absolutely served me well, and highly recommended to anyone.

All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.

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All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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That's true, you can't deny the hardware issues that happens to some, even though it didn't happen to me. But come on now, the G3 ovee the G4? The ui was just too laggy on the G3, not to mention that horrible over sharpening of the screen. I would still happily pick the G4, CONSIDERING the price difference between the G4 and other flagships. If money was no issue then definitly I would go for other devices. But the value for money is just too good to pass on.
Anyway, I will be back to my beloved HTC once the htc 10 hits the market. Looks like a solid comeback from htc. You might disagree but I will cherish my time with the G4 [emoji4]
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Sammae7 said:
There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
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Nothing but offer repairs ? what pray tell is LG to do.
Those that bought with warranty are covered for as long as the term is.
Those that bought without warranty were taking on a risk. This is true with anything. But then people are so passionate in this forum about phones that nobody thinks twice. And they will do it again in a heartbeat
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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Camera on the G4 is a generation jump. The same module was used in the G2, G3 and G flex 1 & 2. They changed it with the G4 and what a difference it makes.
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mrk88 said:
How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-poll-users-hardware-failure-t3303547
Puts things into perspective doesn't it.

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[Q] Losing interest in the G3?

Is anyone losing interest in the G3 while waiting for release dates to be announced? Its odd how the phone was announced almost a month ago and still no carrier outside of verizon has a release date. The longer LG waits the more we hear about upcoming flag ships that can lure away potential buyers from the G3. I call T-Mobile and nobody knows of anything, I haven't lost interest yet but my patience is running thin!
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Is anyone losing interest in the G3 while waiting for release dates to be announced? Its odd how the phone was announced almost a month ago and still no carrier outside of verizon has a release date. The longer LG waits the more we hear about upcoming flag ships that can lure away potential buyers from the G3. I call T-Mobile and nobody knows of anything, I haven't lost interest yet but my patience is running thin!
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I should get mine delivered july 3rd in the Netherlands through T-Mobile
gee2012 said:
I should get mine delivered july 3rd in the Netherlands through T-Mobile
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? how so?
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? how so?
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Its announced both by T-Mobile http://shop.t-mobile.nl/eca/RAPRD/LG-Electronics-G3-goud/mlgg3agd.html?ab_agid=1011 and LG Netherlands http://www.lg.com/nl that the 16GB model will be available July 3
I'm losing interest in the G3. No reason for them to wait so long for release dates.
LG makes nice phones, yet they make horrible marketing decisions.
20degrees said:
I'm losing interest in the G3. No reason for them to wait so long for release dates.
LG makes nice phones, yet they make horrible marketing decisions.
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They are at least better then OnePlus One
A little bit, for sure. To me, what's worse than taking a while to release a product after announcing it, is not even giving customers a firm idea of when they'll be able to get their hands on the product.
I'll still probably buy it, just because there isn't another phone that offers such a large screen in a relatively small form factor. But this process has definitely sullied my anticipation, for sure.
Shouldn't be that long now right? I mean the UK release is on thursday & Europe isn't much long after that
This thread is a joke.
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This thread is a joke.
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You just became part of it
Gqsanders said:
Is anyone losing interest in the G3 while waiting for release dates to be announced? Its odd how the phone was announced almost a month ago and still no carrier outside of verizon has a release date. The longer LG waits the more we hear about upcoming flag ships that can lure away potential buyers from the G3. I call T-Mobile and nobody knows of anything, I haven't lost interest yet but my patience is running thin!
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You know, I was thinking the same thing this weekend. I was really looking forward to the phone, but since the announcement, nothing. And the longer they delay the release, or the longer there is silence, I am thinking I may as well wait a couple months for the galaxy prime/F, galaxy note 4, Motorola X +1, any other phone coming out. LG had my undivided attention in late May. Now, not so much.
alouden said:
You know, I was thinking the same thing this weekend. I was really looking forward to the phone, but since the announcement, nothing. And the longer they delay the release, or the longer there is silence, I am thinking I may as well wait a couple months for the galaxy prime/F, galaxy note 4, Motorola X +1, any other phone coming out. LG had my undivided attention in late May. Now, not so much.
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I agree I'm growing tired of waiting, the Note 4 sounds nice but I'm not sure about touchwiz anymore so I'm nonchalant with phones as of right now
Count me in, if LG wanted to be a real competitor this go round they should have planned a global release. Getting bored with my Note 3 and TouchWiz looking forward to Sony's upcoming Z phone.
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Very much so.
I had 100% expected to pre-order this phone, however since it was announced I've been getting less and less interested in it. A few reasons why:
Shipping with snapdragon 801 rather than the 805
Poor screen in terms of contrast, brightness, over sharpening. While offering only a debatable increase in sharpness
Very, very poor battery life in some aspects (compared with equivalent flagships)
Overheating issues with the screen, and SoC to a lesser extent, but still more than other phones
Each one is only a minor issue, but overall they add up.
Dan1909 said:
Very much so.
I had 100% expected to pre-order this phone, however since it was announced I've been getting less and less interested in it. A few reasons why:
Shipping with snapdragon 801 rather than the 805
Poor screen in terms of contrast, brightness, over sharpening. While offering only a debatable increase in sharpness
Very, very poor battery life in some aspects (compared with equivalent flagships)
Overheating issues with the screen, and SoC to a lesser extent, but still more than other phones
Each one is only a minor issue, but overall they add up.
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The battery life is not poor. I am using one right now and I have to say that its one of the best in terms of battery life.
papaketchup said:
The battery life is not poor. I am using one right now and I have to say that it has been the best in terms of battery life.
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On its own, it's not that poor. But when you compare it (specifically the screen on time, which is important to me) to the M8/S5/etc then it's far from good.
Take a read through these pages to see what I mean:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3_vs_htc_one_m8-review-1094p4.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3_vs_samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1092p4.php
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On its own, it's not that poor. But when you compare it (specifically the screen on time, which is important to me) to the M8/S5/etc then it's far from good.
Take a read through these pages to see what I mean:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3_vs_htc_one_m8-review-1094p4.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3_vs_samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1092p4.php
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Still dont believe it though. Got an S5 and an LG G3. S5 needs a lot more recharging. :/
papaketchup said:
Still dont believe it though. Got an S5 and an LG G3. S5 needs a lot more recharging. :/
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That's reassuring to hear.
I really want to like the phone. I've got the upgrade itch from my N5, and the G3 sounded great with the larger screen, but not quite being Galaxy Note sized.
I guess I need to wait until they're around and have a play with one, then see if it's something I can justify overall.
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That's reassuring to hear.
I really want to like the phone. I've got the upgrade itch from my N5, and the G3 sounded great with the larger screen, but not quite being Galaxy Note sized.
I guess I need to wait until they're around and have a play with one, then see if it's something I can justify overall.
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The G3 feels weird on my hand though. I feel like the screen is too wide for me.
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The G3 feels weird on my hand though. I feel like the screen is too wide for me.
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Or maybe you just have small hands

[Q] should i buy this phone now?

so i brok my note 4 screen ytd, and it cost me too much to repair it again (i already broke once). I decided to switch from samsung as its built quality is terrible (also, i hate the ugly home button). i m actually looking forward to get this phone. is it still worth to get it now? as i am quite busy lately, i dont plan to root it anymore.. can i still freeze some built in apps i dont need?
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Hey, man. I'm having the same dilemma. I'm looking for a 300-350 $ smartphone and I think this is the best available, but don't know if this phone is worth it after a year from it's release. Can anybody advice us?
I got the phone less than a month ago. As far as I'm concerned, it's still right up their with the top of the line phones spec wise. Nothing wrong with getting this phone now. 3GB of RAM, a fast processor, updated to Lollipop. Not sure what else anyone needs in a smartphone. Plus a 5.5" screen with a great display and LG's UX is much better than Samsung's TW if you ask me.
To the OP, you won't be able to freeze apps without root, but you can uninstall updates/disable any app that you don't want to use or see anymore. You can't completely uninstall them, but they won't be running or seen. Any Lollipop phone can do this.
omnia1994 said:
so i brok my note 4 screen ytd, and it cost me too much to repair it again (i already broke once). I decided to switch from samsung as its built quality is terrible (also, i hate the ugly home button). i m actually looking forward to get this phone. is it still worth to get it now? as i am quite busy lately, i dont plan to root it anymore.. can i still freeze some built in apps i dont need?
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germanguaimare said:
Hey, man. I'm having the same dilemma. I'm looking for a 300-350 $ smartphone and I think this is the best available, but don't know if this phone is worth it after a year from it's release. Can anybody advice us?
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Ive just done exactly what you folks are asking today. Returnred my Note 4 as I really hate TW with a passion and that horrible screen touch "pop pop" everytime you press something. I bought the N4 a few days ago, hoping that Sammy had done something with TW in 501 update, albeit they havent.. and I found I had no use for the S-Pen, but I do think the N4 QHD screen is stunning. I returned the N4 and bought a G3 and got money back... .. amazing phone, loving it so far.. and the audio is awesome, with the QuadBeat Headphones and 1Amp speaker.
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I got the phone less than a month ago. As far as I'm concerned, it's still right up their with the top of the line phones spec wise. Nothing wrong with getting this phone now. 3GB of RAM, a fast processor, updated to Lollipop. Not sure what else anyone needs in a smartphone. Plus a 5.5" screen with a great display and LG's UX is much better than Samsung's TW if you ask me.
To the OP, you won't be able to freeze apps without root, but you can uninstall updates/disable any app that you don't want to use or see anymore. You can't completely uninstall them, but they won't be running or seen. Any Lollipop phone can do this.
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I agree ... The G3 is a great phone and apart from the G4, theres nothing on the market that touches it.. the S6 still has TW, The One M9 is just an M8 with a new camera. theres no new Nokia/MS flagships yet, the NExus 6 is an alternative if you want pure Android, so ATM... the G3 is one of the best phones out there until the G4 comes down in price (which I cant wait for), but at the moment the G4 is too pricey.
Go for it, buy the G3, you can pick up a Brand New unlocked/Unbranded G3 for about £350/$400 .. so yeah... I recommend it
Good luck
Thank you guys, I'll follow your advices and my gut. Soon I'll be part of the G3 family.
I got mine from amazon Wednesday to replace my z2. The phone is amazing. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...ords=lg+g3&dpPl=1&dpID=41uvCd6+PVL&ref=plSrch this is where i got mine
I'm a phone-a-holic lol and rarely keep one for more than 6 months before moving onto something else newer and better. Over the years this is by far the best phone I've owned. It almost seems impossible to brick. It can be but simple to get out of a soft brick. Go for the g3 you won't be disappointed.
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Thanks for your answers, guys. I have a nother question: can the new or recent owners clarify if the few issues reported (lag related to the cpu governor, overheating, etc.) have been fixed recently with OTA updates? Thanks.
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Thanks for your answers, guys. I have a nother question: can the new or recent owners clarify if the few issues reported (lag related to the cpu governor, overheating, etc.) have been fixed recently with OTA updates? Thanks.
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I bought mine about 2 months ago and have no lag and it always runs cool. It did have KK when I got it but running LP now.
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Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
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My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.
510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.
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My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?
I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.
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I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

Is the bootloop issue active to sway a new customer elsewhere

The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
MustangLife03 said:
The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
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its unknown if they really fixed problem... they said they did but still people is reporting bootloop issues with newer phones as well.. the amount of people reporting is low... but they say it takes 8-9 months to show up so we need time for this phones to reach that time and see if they all start bootlooping likes the 505's.
be aware that not all g4 can be bootloader unlocked..
MustangLife03 said:
The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
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First of all G4 isnt a faster or a better all performer...if u want performance n quality go for LG V10 and for bootloop its for real most phones are refurbished meaning they were bought last year were only used for a week or more just like urs and then were sold so after a couple a months they were shipped to other countries and were sold off.... these G4s werent at all used hence many didnt pass the bootlloop time period for it to get bricked but many will eventually...This bootloop issue is so real i had to buy a used G3 for 130US$ i use my G4 as a second phone my phone hasnt been bootlooped as of yet but it will certainly so i might just turn it off let it sleep
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its unknown if they really fixed problem... they said they did but still people is reporting bootloop issues with newer phones as well.. the amount of people reporting is low... but they say it takes 8-9 months to show up so we need time for this phones to reach that time and see if they all start bootlooping likes the 505's.
be aware that not all g4 can be bootloader unlocked..
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First of all G4 isnt a faster or a better all performer...if u want performance n quality go for LG V10 and for bootloop its for real most phones are refurbished meaning they were bought last year were only used for a week or more just like urs and then were sold so after a couple a months they were shipped to other countries and were sold off.... these G4s werent at all used hence many didnt pass the bootlloop time period for it to get bricked but many will eventually...This bootloop issue is so real i had to buy a used G3 for 130US$ i use my G4 as a second phone my phone hasnt been bootlooped as of yet but it will certainly so i might just turn it off let it sleep
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Appreciate the fast responses guys. I didn't know the bootloop was a time developing type issue. Good to know.
"Jinderation" The V10 is a great looking phone but that is a pure flagship device in my eyes as I can't get one cheaper than $500. At that price I have plenty of options. The G4 H810 I can obtain new for $278-$285 so its a big difference vs the V10. My cutoff is $299 before taxes. Since the bootloop is a real issue I guess I'm gonna have to pass. Seeing as you never know if you got that repackaged type used looks new phone. I love everything about this phone especially at that price with the options.
I don't know why but I first came into the mod world in 2008 with the IPhone. Around 2013 to date I've been in the Android world. Development on hardware and software seems to be rushed on everything now a days and something has "that issue" Owning a IPhone I new if there was a real bug a update was gonna come out fast and even the 2011 4S has up to date IOS 5 years later. These android developers need to stop developing 35 versions of a phone every year and make 3 or 4 and the variants and produce them right. Again thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm back on my search list for that phone.
S5 or carrier model S6 is on ur budget also ..S6 doesnt have any mc slot i also had one sold and bought G4..you can also try buying a repaired G4 directly from LG which already had motherboard replaced the pro is ur device wont get bricked ever or u could check ebay for certain model which were produced in 2015..they also havent reported for bootloop issue... My advice go for Galaxy S5 F model or G3 t mobile lots of mods and custom rom is availabe and also these devices have bootloader unlock and then wait alteast an year for S7 OR its edge version to have its priced down then buy that
Also this is my topic im sharing with u...see the consumer review on 1st page that i have mentioned and yes bootloop is a very serious issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lawsuit-lg-defective-phones-t3408092/page7

Safe G4s?

Considering buying a G4 due to the comparably high specs for the price range. However, this bootloop issue has me thinking twice.
Are there any models of LG G4 that seem exempt from the bootloop issue?
phnord said:
Considering buying a G4 due to the comparably high specs for the price range. However, this bootloop issue has me thinking twice.
Are there any models of LG G4 that seem exempt from the bootloop issue?
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theres is not guarrantied that it wont but less likely any phone manufactured from jan 1026 and up.
chances are very very low but not that it wont. it might.
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theres is not guarrantied that it wont but less likely any phone manufactured from jan 1026 and up.
chances are very very low but not that it wont. it might.
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You mean ones manufactured from this January – as in last month –*and that these are labeled 1026 and up?
If they were just manufactured a month ago, how do we know that they won't die, say, next month?
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You mean ones manufactured from this January – as in last month –*and that these are labeled 1026 and up?
If they were just manufactured a month ago, how do we know that they won't die, say, next month?
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I think he means serial code 601 and above are "relatively safe" but that said, they will bootloop its just matter of how long it takes and how lucky you are. (I also doubt LG still produces G4's and replacement parts for it)
This has been asked several times now. Really.. Every forum has a search function.
I haven't seen any prove of a 6xx or 7xx serial device yet.
I own 2 g4 h815 devices both with serial 603. Heavy usage. No problems.
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone where the mainboard was replaced. Only a phone directly coming with a 6xx or higher serial.
You can have always bad luck on ANY electronic device though. For guarantees you have warranties
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I think he means serial code 601 and above are "relatively safe" but that said, they will bootloop its just matter of how long it takes and how lucky you are. (I also doubt LG still produces G4's and replacement parts for it)
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If that's the case, do you have a recommendation for an alternative replacement-or-upgrade to my G3?
To elaborate, here's what I posted in the recommend-a-device thread:
phnord;[url said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71083923&postcount=10168]I've[/url] got an LG G3 – an AT&T D850, LG's flagship from 2014.
I've been mostly satisfied with it for the last few years. However, it's screen just cracked, and seeing as it will cost me $50+ for a replacement screen, I'm considering jumping ship.
As such, I'm looking for something:
Cheap
Comparable to or better than the LG G3
Stable - not prone to tons of hardware / software issues like the G4
Well supported in the development community
In particular, some features that would be nice:
Battery life equal to or better than G3
Processor / performance equal to or better than G3
Swappable batteries or very, very good battery life
MicroSD card Slot or very, very large internal memory
Cameras equal to or better than G3
Durability equal to or better than G3
Rootable / Custom-ROM-able
Development community activity comparable to or better than G3
Screen size / brightness equal to or better than G3
Tetherable
Torch
I'd like to keep it under $100, but am willing to go up to the $100-$200 range if need be.
I *DON'T* need it to be carrier unlocked. I'm sticking with AT&T, so if it's locked to AT&T, so be it.
I'm willing to buy used if it's a reliable, well supported phone.
Thoughts? Any advice would be urgently appreciated!!!
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steadfasterX said:
This has been asked several times now. Really.. Every forum has a search function.
I haven't seen any prove of a 6xx or 7xx serial device yet.
I own 2 g4 h815 devices both with serial 603. Heavy usage. No problems.
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone where the mainboard was replaced. Only a phone directly coming with a 6xx or higher serial.
You can have always bad luck on ANY electronic device though. For guarantees you have warranties
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some guy reported his bootlooped it was serial 610..... the other ive seen was a 604 some 602- and 601 but very few compared to 510 and below. to 505
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some guy reported his bootlooped it was serial 610..... the other ive seen was a 604 some 602- and 601 but very few compared to 510 and below. to 505
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Still don't believe this is true. Maybe those were replaced / repaired ones or maybe there are other issues then the ilapo. I didn't saw anything like that yet.
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