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Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.

The new colors and the active weren't a big shocker to me since I'd rather have a good screen and specs than a bit more durable device. The mega wasn't much to me either but the S4 Advanced is.. Even though tmobile barely just got lte now it wouldn't have too much function besides the new process but still.. Id like to have some safety in buying something new and not having buyers remorse for not waiting for the next best thing so soon.
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Yeah it is so aggravating
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KingVeto said:
Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
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I want a device that gives me a sense of security of having the top support. For Samsung to immediately dump us like this could be their weakest point. I just bought it a week ago and to hear something new may be coming just pisses me off. No wonder I was considering apple
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*shudder* no, my friend, you still chose wisely. The S4 is an amazing phone, and I love it. I'm mostly just making a comment on how I don't like the direction Samsung is going... They're getting very greedy and flooding the market with S4 labeled everything....it's a sure-fire way to turn people off to the brand. And if this advanced version comes to light and is released shortly, then this will be my last Samsung branded phone. I bought an S4 because I thought it would be Samsung's flagship top-tier smartphone, but apparently it is already obsolete after two months. This would be welcome if a competitor released a phone that wiped the floor with the S4, but to have the same manufacturer do it....that's simply a greedy, consumer-alienating move.

It almost feels like they're punishing the early adopters.
"See all the cool **** we could've put in your phone but chose not to?"

im really pissed about the s4 advanced. its a huge screw you to those of us who bought the phone in may. its only been what, a month and a half? Not to mention that us 16 gig users got especially boned. Isnt this rapid release cycle one of the contributing factors of htc's slow suicide? this may very well be the last samsung phone i buy. ive been eyeing the sony experia line for a while. Time to do some research

I might go with the iPhone
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.

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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.

exasperating
I can't keep up with samsung too, when s3 came out I just bought my s2 couple of months ago which is really irritating, I have yet to enjoy the features of this awesome smart phone and next thing I knew my friends are buying s3 like it's going out of style..

The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.

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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.

Dr. Fed said:
Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).

oblivion0 said:
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.

You guys should already know this is going to happen. When you buy a new phone, there's always going to be a new one coming out. With the person saying they bought an s2 then s3 came out in few months. You should already know it was coming out, it happens every year. You don't buy a new phone after months of being released then complain about it when a new one came out
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
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Yes, I'm referring to the International G4 update. There's a T-Mobile leak available, but from what I understand it's buggy.
I was on ET4G as well, and Sextape is awesome.

This argument seems moot. Do you even think T-Mobile would pick up the S4 Advance? I very highly doubt it. If what you really wanted was the "best", why not shell out the money for the international version with octa-core back in May? Because of the lack of LTE is my guess, but T-Mobile's LTE coverage is so sparse it seems pointless.
This variant will remain well supported into the future - as far as smartphone lifespans go. This is not the HTC One story. HTC kept releasing variants because there were crappy flaws and they couldn't get it right.
We all seem to be pretty well plugged into the rumor mill, so news and, based on history, the expectation of color variants should've been no surprise. And the Active has been known for quite some time. We are a "Want it now!" group which is why we couldn't even wait a month for the initial price drop.
If you really need the Snapdragon 800, you can still commanda premium for this phone on ebay to pay your way. But, I would think the development is going to be very sparse compared to this one - FAR fewer people will have that phone. Hell, right now we can run any rom from any carrier, plus the international 9505.

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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
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The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.

se1000 said:
Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Exactly and korea is getting this first the u.s. will not see this until next year at the earliest. There are no advanced lte networks in place yet but guess who will be in the best shape for it....Tmobile because they have the newest lte equipment out there that there are using now across the country. So I am not mad at them it would have been a different story if it was coming now but it's still awhile before we see it. I am more pissed off about the lack of internal space and not being moving apps to sd card. Hope we get the same update to fix this soon like the intetnational model. That's my only beef right now.
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I dont think the op is out to chase the next best thing but rather, the business aspect of samsung.
But hey, Lt advance, and w.e spec is being added to the phone doesn't really bother me if i dont have it. My phone is blazing fast. With AOSP/AOKP it runs faster than my finger can catch up because of the specs it currently have. Infamous manage to squeeze 5+ hours of battery life out of it and evil managed to make it as smooth as silk.
So I am not complaining , if i say I will be chasing the next best thing with my money as someone of you clearly have that mindset going on in here, I will be more broke than my two years old baby cousin. If not broke, will just walk around with that green envious eyes and no one got time for that, clearly im too lazy for that. It is differenty if you got the s2 than the s3 came out (the obvious difference in the phone is MINDBLOWING)
But from the s4 lt..to s4 lt advance, water proof s4, to w.e else s4 is out there...I'm good. I can still sleep at night knowing my phone is better than 7/8 of my whole block if it is about being satisfy with the next being thing.

LG G3 worth?

I'm about to buy an LG G3 for 350 euros. (16 Gb, black)
I don't want to buy another mobile phone within at least 2-3 years as I'm starting high studies and I won't have much to spend then, but I really need a mobile that can handle everything and can last a lot.
Do you think it's worth it or is there another mobile coming soon that's better? Is it going to be supported by the community for a long time?

Im pretty pleased of mine 32g 3 ram but i dont like the small stuttering here and there hopfuly its gonna be fix with android L

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Im pretty pleased of mine 32g 3 ram but i dont like the small stuttering here and there hopfuly its gonna be fix with android L
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When is android L supposed to be coming out anyway?

Rumors said end of this year

mathsmart said:
Rumors said end of this year
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That's for nexus devices.
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I would wait for Note4

pride_kr said:
I would wait for Note4
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One can always wait for the next great product.
If you like the features then get the phone. It has gotten good reviews and has a good reputation here.

Go for it. This phone should last you the amount of time you want it to without it feeling outdated by the 1 year mark. Hard to say what will be our in 3 years but I plan to keep mine for to better part of 3 years.

I'd wait and see if there's gonna be a new nexus phone with L or go for the N5. This phone lags sometimes, has pretty low development activity (yeah, I know the reason, no complaint but a fact). After my nexus 4, I should've gone with the N5. The G3 is an okay phone in my opinion and looks sexy but the wow factor is missing for me...

The phone is great ..... but its really what you want your phone for and whether it fits those particular needs, I'm afraid there is no absolute answer, its about your needs and whether this phone fits them or another is more suitable.
I would advise research and checking it out and the competition, sorry no easy answers.

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I would wait for Note4
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Absolutely.
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I'll try to tell you my history, from a person that doesn't change their phone every 3 months, or.. in a better way, a xda-user exception.
Got the Gnexus almost on the end of its lifespan (4 months before Nexus 4 release). It lasted 2 years when I gladly changed it to LG G3.
I saw a lot of reviews to after choose LG G3. What you will see outside is questions about the battery life due to the "unnecessary" QuadHD display.
Having a Gnex for 2 years is undoubtedly a nice school for battery life and screen on time use...
I really don't care about that after having that phone for 2 years.. and in every aspect besides battery life, LG G3 wins (for me).
So, tl:dr, buy it without doubt, grab a spare battery if you care so much. The design and the display of LG G3 destroy every other phone released till today.

pride_kr said:
I would wait for Note4
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It's gonna be announced, maybe, on 3rd of Sept. Maybe launched on October, November, who knows..
cb1111 said:
One can always wait for the next great product.
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Yeah, true, but I don't want to end up throwing it away because it's not that good. So I asked
donjamal said:
I'd wait and see if there's gonna be a new nexus phone with L or go for the N5. This phone lags sometimes, has pretty low development activity (yeah, I know the reason, no complaint but a fact). After my nexus 4, I should've gone with the N5. The G3 is an okay phone in my opinion and looks sexy but the wow factor is missing for me...
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Nexus 6 not till the end of the year; new phones with L won't come before that
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I'd wait and see if there's gonna be a new nexus phone with L or go for the N5. This phone lags sometimes, has pretty low development activity (yeah, I know the reason, no complaint but a fact). After my nexus 4, I should've gone with the N5. The G3 is an okay phone in my opinion and looks sexy but the wow factor is missing for me...
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I see. Why isn't it getting high dev activity?
I don't really know!

Sould199 said:
It's gonna be announced, maybe, on 3rd of Sept. Maybe launched on October, November, who knows..
Yeah, true, but I don't want to end up throwing it away because it's not that good. So I asked
Nexus 6 not till the end of the year; new phones with L won't come before that
I see. Why isn't it getting high dev activity?
I don't really know!
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There's no doubt the Note 4 will be on sale next month.

Sould199 said:
It's gonna be announced, maybe, on 3rd of Sept. Maybe launched on October, November, who knows..
Yeah, true, but I don't want to end up throwing it away because it's not that good. So I asked
Nexus 6 not till the end of the year; new phones with L won't come before that
I see. Why isn't it getting high dev activity?
I don't really know!
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Well, yeah, if you can't wait, go into a shop and try it, play around with it and decide how it feels for you. At end it's gonna be u using it I'm not happy with it but I'm okay with it personally. Only reason I got it is that I broke my nexus 4 and got a good deal on it from my SP. Otherwise I was thinking about ordering a nexus 5. Had it in my hand, used it before, I just simply love nexus phones for aosp android, quick updates knowing Google is behind it and if they screw something up in the software they will be quick to release a fix while manufacturers won't be, and to be honest they make shifty UI except Sony imo but I had 2 Xperia phones, both were flagship devices and both sucked.
But as said before, it's your own personal preference. Try it in a shop and you'll see it for yourself. It looks really sexy with the huge display with the tiny bezels and reminds me of the nexus 5 a bit as well. Though I miss my aosp android experience and the quick updates. I however appreciate for instance the IR control and the camera.

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There's no doubt the Note 4 will be on sale next month.
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Really? How do you know it? When approximately?
So, should I wait for it? It's gonna cost $600+ and I won't buy any other phone in 200 stellar galaxy years after that. lol
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Well, yeah, if you can't wait, go into a shop and try it, play around with it and decide how it feels for you. At end it's gonna be u using it I'm not happy with it but I'm okay with it personally. Only reason I got it is that I broke my nexus 4 and got a good deal on it from my SP. Otherwise I was thinking about ordering a nexus 5. Had it in my hand, used it before, I just simply love nexus phones for aosp android, quick updates knowing Google is behind it and if they screw something up in the software they will be quick to release a fix while manufacturers won't be, and to be honest they make shifty UI except Sony imo but I had 2 Xperia phones, both were flagship devices and both sucked.
But as said before, it's your own personal preference. Try it in a shop and you'll see it for yourself. It looks really sexy with the huge display with the tiny bezels and reminds me of the nexus 5 a bit as well. Though I miss my aosp android experience and the quick updates. I however appreciate for instance the IR control and the camera.
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When is N6 gonna be released? And that one, too, would be my last phone for a long time. So it's better if it's really great

Sould199 said:
Really? How do you know it? When approximately?
So, should I wait for it? It's gonna cost $600+ and I won't buy any other phone in 200 stellar galaxy years after that. lol
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The Note 3 was announced early last September and released at the end. Samsung staff have been told there's going to be no annual leave around the middle of Septemeber, the correlates to what happens around their releases. There's no way they'd wait over a month from when they announce to being on sale.
The G3 struggles with the 801 powering it. Check out the videos of a comparison of the G3 805 Vs G3 801. Check out the articles on Samsung's new QHD screen technology also,it uses less power. There may be other better phones out later this year or next but it would be mad to buy an 801 QHD phone when the other major companies are about to release their 805 versions.

Sould199 said:
I'm about to buy an LG G3 for 350 euros. (16 Gb, black)
I don't want to buy another mobile phone within at least 2-3 years as I'm starting high studies and I won't have much to spend then, but I really need a mobile that can handle everything and can last a lot.
Do you think it's worth it or is there another mobile coming soon that's better? Is it going to be supported by the community for a long time?
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Just out of interest, would that be a grey import? The cheapest I can find in UK which is probably imported from EU is £390 which is about 480 Euros. Or is it second hand? Makes more sense if it is the latter.

Ultraman1966 said:
Just out of interest, would that be a grey import? The cheapest I can find in UK which is probably imported from EU is £390 which is about 480 Euros. Or is it second hand? Makes more sense if it is the latter.
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It's already been used for a month or so

Would definitely wait for the note 4, the G3 doesn't stand a chance against it
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The Note 3 was announced early last September and released at the end. Samsung staff have been told there's going to be no annual leave around the middle of Septemeber, the correlates to what happens around their releases. There's no way they'd wait over a month from when they announce to being on sale.
The G3 struggles with the 801 powering it. Check out the videos of a comparison of the G3 805 Vs G3 801. Check out the articles on Samsung's new QHD screen technology also,it uses less power. There may be other better phones out later this year or next but it would be mad to buy an 801 QHD phone when the other major companies are about to release their 805 versions.
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Would love to read about their new screens using less power, do you have a link?

Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards

My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.

A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?

Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.

510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?

DawarAzhar said:
What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?

I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.

DawarAzhar said:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.

G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides

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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though

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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.

Quickdraw996 said:
I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.

Good Son 5 said:
Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

V30 hints at possible US pricing

According to GSM arena the price is the V30 may be $750 USD. See link:
https://www.google.com/amp/m.gsmare.../lg_v30_will_probably_cost_749-news-27084.php
If so this is good. LG isn't going the Apple Samsung route and asking crazy money for their flagship. A few month down the road you may be able to pick one up for something in the high 500 to mid 600 dollar range.
I will likely pick up V30 in the near future if the price turns out to be reasonable and sooner if there is some kind of deal/offer.

I'm hoping it's around that price. I avoided the 5 and 6 for lg, but still like their phones. I will be getting this and setting the 8+ aside for a while.
I'm also hoping they do some sort of pre-order deal too. Still using the 200gb card from the v20 pre-order.

I had the G6 and fell for the S8 hype and really regret it. I cant have any samsung phones, they always suck for me. Im waiting on the apple event (dont flame me) to make my decision on what i wanna get to replace the S8. But the V30 is a very strong contender.

dantes5823 said:
I had the G6 and fell for the S8 hype and really regret it. I cant have any samsung phones, they always suck for me. Im waiting on the apple event (dont flame me) to make my decision on what i wanna get to replace the S8. But the V30 is a very strong contender.
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Same here. Bought the G6, sold it to get the GS8. I have no idea why I keep trying Samsung. Great phones, yeah, but they never work for me (Note 5 is the lone exception). Bixby was a royal pain in the rear. Anyway, after flirting with the OnePlus 3T, I am back to and enjoying the G6. I am seriously considering the V30.
I have just been in heaven with these releases. First the Galaxy Note8, then the V30, with the Iphones, pixels and Mate 10 launches to follow. All fantastic phones. I have no intention of buying the Note, Iphone or pixels, but I love watching and reading about these phones when they are announced.

anl2304 said:
Same here. Bought the G6, sold it to get the GS8. I have no idea why I keep trying Samsung. Great phones, yeah, but they never work for me (Note 5 is the lone exception). Bixby was a royal pain in the rear. Anyway, after flirting with the OnePlus 3T, I am back to and enjoying the G6. I am seriously considering the V30.
I have just been in heaven with these releases. First the Galaxy Note8, then the V30, with the Iphones, pixels and Mate 10 launches to follow. All fantastic phones. I have no intention of buying the Note, Iphone or pixels, but I love watching and reading about these phones when they are announced.
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Up until the last two or three years I always had Samsung starting with the original Galaxy S to the notes 2 - 4. Then the LG G5 to Axon 7 to Nexus 6P and this year a V20.
I do sometimes miss the S pen and the Samsung camera have always been good for me. I traded in my G5, that wasn't being used, for a Note 8 preorder. I will also be getting the V30 as I carry two phone (work & personal). We will see which one become my go to device.

RojasTKD said:
Up until the last two or three years I always had Samsung starting with the original Galaxy S to the notes 2 - 4. Then the LG G5 to Axon 7 to Nexus 6P and this year a V20.
I do sometimes miss the S pen and the Samsung camera have always been good for me. I traded in my G5, that wasn't being used, for a Note 8 preorder. I will also be getting the V30 as I carry two phone (work & personal). We will see which one become my go to device.
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I am waiting on the V30. I have had much better luck with LG devices (G2, G3, G4 and the G6) than Samsung. However, the Note5 and GS3 were devices I loved. If I don't hear much from LG regarding release date for the V30, I may just jump to the Note8 or or give the GS8 Plus a go (now that I know how to inactivate Bixby).

I wish that they would announce the release date for US carriers already
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bkeaver said:
I wish that they would announce the release date for US carriers already
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What is there not to know? South Korea gets it September 21. The rest of the world gets it after that. Assume early October for U.S.
The U.S. carrier unlocked will be after that. Currently rumored for "mid-October", but I'm skeptical because normally they give a month or so for carriers to fleece suckers on "contract" before they unveil the good stuff. [emoji14]
Actually I wouldn't mind if LG delayed the V30 another week or two IF it means improving the few quirks that was noticed in the pre-release devices.

dantes5823 said:
I had the G6 and fell for the S8 hype and really regret it. I cant have any samsung phones, they always suck for me. Im waiting on the apple event (dont flame me) to make my decision on what i wanna get to replace the S8. But the V30 is a very strong contender.
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You have a right to your opinion, just as anyone else does. I've got the S6/G920A and now that LG has finally gotten away from putting the power and volume controls on the rear of the phone, I'll grab the V30 next week and probably never look at Samsung again for a flagship phone.

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What is there not to know? South Korea gets it September 21. The rest of the world gets it after that. Assume early October for U.S.
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I just wish lg would give a ballpark for us when they announce, or at least release shortly after. A month is a ways out when other companies are right around the corner.
Either way, I made up my mind - I'm getting the 30. I miss lg. I wouldn't have left, but the 5 and 6 were failures though. Still miss my g4.

20degrees said:
I just wish lg would give a ballpark for us when they announce, or at least release shortly after. A month is a ways out when other companies are right around the corner.
Either way, I made up my mind - I'm getting the 30. I miss lg. I wouldn't have left, but the 5 and 6 were failures though. Still miss my g4.
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I loved my old G4 But I also hated that it always overheated and throtlled the phone . Hopefully the v30 is good overall

Galaxy Princess said:
You have a right to your opinion, just as anyone else does. I've got the S6/G920A and now that LG has finally gotten away from putting the power and volume controls on the rear of the phone, I'll grab the V30 next week and probably never look at Samsung again for a flagship phone.
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The Power button/finger print scanner is still on the back. Has been that way since G5, as well as the volume buttons on the side. G4 had both on the back. That was a while ago.

I've heard one person mention that the camera in auto mode isn't that impressive again. If true I'll be very sad, it's what bothers me most about the my V20.
I know manual mode can be very good, but I don't always have the time or inclination to fiddle with it to get the shot.
Bodily at least it's improved over the V20 or it's just the pre-release software.

I just read release date is Sept 15 and the phone is priced at $1000 CDN....
http://XXX.gsmarena.com/lg_v30_undercuts_the_price_of_galaxy_note8-news-27219.php

shollywood said:
I just read release date is Sept 15 and the phone is priced at $1000 CDN....
http://XXX.gsmarena.com/lg_v30_undercuts_the_price_of_galaxy_note8-news-27219.php
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I can't open the link, maybe it just my smartphone.
That would be equivalent to 822. 60 to US dollars. I was expecting less, that's still to expensive for me to consider.
Hopefully actual price is less than that. If not I'll just wait, LG prices drop pretty quick usually.

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I can't open the link, maybe it just my smartphone.
That would be equivalent to 822. 60 to US dollars. I was expecting less, that's still to expensive for me to consider.
Hopefully actual price is less than that. If not I'll just wait, LG prices drop pretty quick usually.
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Change header from xxx to www...

milan187 said:
The Power button/finger print scanner is still on the back. Has been that way since G5, as well as the volume buttons on the side. G4 had both on the back. That was a while ago.
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Thank you Milan, I can still live with that configuration. Its the volume controls I really had a problem with on the G4, as well as switching over from Samsung devices.

Just read the price will be 899€ in Europe. Yeah...no, won't buy. WTF are they thinking?!
Now I don't know which one to buy, the LG G6 is stripped down in Europe. I don't want Samsung (bad experience), sony's are shaped like bricks. Will look into huawei.

fallenwout said:
Just read the price will be 899€ in Europe. Yeah...no, won't buy. WTF are they thinking?!
Now I don't know which one to buy, the LG G6 is stripped down in Europe. I don't want Samsung (bad experience), sony's are shaped like bricks. Will look into huawei.
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Yeah if they are going to fallow the Samsung, Apple model in pricing that will really diminish the appeal of this phone.
BUT if you a little patient LG's prices tend to drop fast. I'm ok waiting a few months for prices to become reasonable. My V20 gets the job done and sounds great worth my good portable headphones/ in-ears. I'm not in a hurry.

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Yeah if they are going to fallow the Samsung, Apple model in pricing that will really diminish the appeal of this phone.
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Especially if you know that the V30 is finally on par with the Samsung S8 in hardware, but that one came out months ago and is now 200€ less + 128gb free sd card.
So @LG, it is not because you bring competitive hardware to the market 6 months after the compention did, that you can price it as the price 6 months ago.

Why can't LG just figure out how to launch a phone?

This is a bit of a rant but I just can't stop myself
LG has got to be one of the worst companies when it comes to launching a phone. We saw basically a complete phone in August then had to wait a month before it even came to North America. Then, they handicap the phone in Canada by ONLY RELEASING IT IN ONE COLOR. I will never get this, the V30 is an amazing phone but I probably won't be getting it just because of how much LG has messed this launch up. If I can't get an unlocked bootloader on contract, then the least I'd want as a Canadian is to get the phone in black. But apparently that's not even possible.
I personally am losing so much respect for LG as they continue to make dumb decisions about some fantastic hardware. What are your thoughts?

I think they are pretty good compared to Google..

fifteenfathoms said:
This is a bit of a rant but I just can't stop myself
LG has got to be one of the worst companies when it comes to launching a phone. We saw basically a complete phone in August then had to wait a month before it even came to North America. Then, they handicap the phone in Canada by ONLY RELEASING IT IN ONE COLOR. I will never get this, the V30 is an amazing phone but I probably won't be getting it just because of how much LG has messed this launch up. If I can't get an unlocked bootloader on contract, then the least I'd want as a Canadian is to get the phone in black. But apparently that's not even possible.
I personally am losing so much respect for LG as they continue to make dumb decisions about some fantastic hardware. What are your thoughts?
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Lol, and you are complaining about this? In Europe, UK escluded, is not yet available, and we don't even know the price

Killua96 said:
Lol, and you are complaining about this? In Europe, UK escluded, is not yet available, and we don't even know the price
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This is my point exactly. I was using Canada as an example simply because it's where I live and I've been stuck trying to find my next phone since mid-August, only to be teased by LG for oh so long. The fact that they are launching phones 1+ months earlier in one place and giving no notice as to when it's launching in others is just insane in my eyes. Hope that Europe gets an announcement soon, only today did we finally get one for us igloo people in Canada.

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I think they are pretty good compared to Google..
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At least google was able to announce it and give us the option to pre-order and a release date, all at the time that they showed off the phone.

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This is my point exactly. I was using Canada as an example simply because it's where I live and I've been stuck trying to find my next phone since mid-August, only to be teased by LG for oh so long. The fact that they are launching phones 1+ months earlier in one place and giving no notice as to when it's launching in others is just insane in my eyes. Hope that Europe gets an announcement soon, only today did we finally get one for us igloo people in Canada.
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Just wanted to say one that regarding this...
It appears the T-Mobile devices don't have the display banding issue, maybe they wait for the launch in Europe to fix the issue, yeah, I know, it will never be like this, but hope is the last to die ahahahah

Killua96 said:
Just wanted to say one that regarding this...
It appears the T-Mobile devices don't have the display banding issue, maybe they wait for the launch in Europe to fix the issue, yeah, I know, it will never be like this, but hope is the last to die ahahahah
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I'm really curious to see if the Pixel 2 XL is going to have similar issues at launch, seeming how LG is likely using the exact same panels. Maybe they will have fixed the majority of issues by then for both phones, idk like you said hope is the last to die lmao

fifteenfathoms said:
I'm really curious to see if the Pixel 2 XL is going to have similar issues at launch, seeming how LG is likely using the exact same panels. Maybe they will have fixed the majority of issues by then for both phones, idk like you said hope is the last to die lmao
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There is thread on Reddit where the pixel doesn't have the problem, but the same brightness seems brighter on the pixel so they could have raised the minum brightness.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/75yiv4/pixel_xl2_display_vs_v30_on_right/

Killua96 said:
There is thread on Reddit where the pixel doesn't have the problem, but the same brightness seems brighter on the pixel so they could have raised the minum brightness.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/75yiv4/pixel_xl2_display_vs_v30_on_right/
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Definitely does look brighter, but I'd trade that for not having the screen look as horrible as the v30 he has for comparison any day lol

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Definitely does look brighter, but I'd trade that for not having the screen look as horrible as the v30 he has for comparison any day lol
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Well, if LG doesn't do a software update you can use lux from the play store or any other app that modify brightness parameters xD

This launch is ridiculous. Not one store in a 50 Mike radius had this phone in stock. And all have given me dates other than today when it's sale. Have heard it's on sale the 15th from one store, the 17th from another and the 21st from another. Why can't I get this phone today. I'm in Utah by the way.

justibasa said:
This launch is ridiculous. Not one store in a 50 Mike radius had this phone in stock. And all have given me dates other than today when it's sale. Have heard it's on sale the 15th from one store, the 17th from another and the 21st from another. Why can't I get this phone today. I'm in Utah by the way.
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Same story in Ohio. Got told on Wednesday the stores would for sure have it today for the launch, now not a single store got any stock. It's not as if they are selling out, they are just not receiving them. LG should be embarrassed, they apparently were overflowing with these damn things to send to every minor YouTuber since August.

And to top it off, T-MOBILE was supposed to launch the phone today and exactly 0 stores anywhere within driving distance have one and they don't know when they are getting them. Talk about an epic fail. Looks like I'm back on the phone hunt. I was pretty pumped about the V30 but LG may have just lost my money, simply because they can't properly launch a phone. No wonder they can't keep up with Samsung.