Anyone planning to switch to S8 when it's available? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Anyone planning to switch to S8 when it's available? I am mainly comtemplating it because of the big screen. My main concern however is the build quality. What are your thoughts?

Lower screen to body ratio = more screen to break.
And KNOX = no sale.

Nah, Samsung pushed too far, like Xiaomi MIX. Good to look but hard to bring it in daily life because you have to be very careful all the time.

For sure not. Perhaps the OP 5 or the HTC 11. And if they don't convince me, I'll stay at the 10 for sure :good:

Depends on whether you like development? It's not like Samsung has exactly been friendly towards that. Biggest deciding factor for me anyway.

I'm finding it harder and harder to justify purchasing new phones when there is no real-world difference. I'm perfectly fine with my 10, why should I even "upgrade" when it won't really change anything? I also decided a long time ago to never purchase a Samsung device again and I have no reason to change that, but as far as other brands are concerned my initial comment still stands.

I'm pretty sure it'll be an amazing phone in terms of hardware, however the software will probably hurt the experience as always.
I've been thinking in switching because the random stutters, jank and ****ty wifi of the HTC 10 have made me hate the thing. The S8 will probably also stutter so meh.

HTC 10 and all snapdragon 820 phones are perfectly fine with the performance, and offered a big upgrade from the 810. Camera quality has also reached a stage where companies are offering fine improvements (mainly in low light).
Some other specs (particularly RAM) have hit the limit of what the software can manage or need. It's now about keeping more apps in the background. Overkill.
I guess that upgrading a phone every year is no longer a feasible and wise option, unless someone wipes his butt with money.

Sure the new hardware will be stunning, but coming from an HTC, the Samsung software will be difficult to swallow. Better wait for the HTC 11 until you make a decision.

It'll be a great phone I'm sure, plus the bezel less screen is definitely a plus..Sammy has to get the S8 right to make up for the cluster **** they did with the note.
I've always updated yearly however I think this may be the first time I don't, people do say that Sammy development is lacking but the development for my favourite Sammy phone S5 was brilliant it had everything, but I found myself always looking over the fence at HTC, theres just something about their devices.
If anything I'll wait for the 11 , but to be honest, the 10 is a beast and with a little love and tweaking there's nothing to gain besides skin deep changes.
Short answer ! Nah I'll skip it although I am curious to see what it's like.
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No.
I had the S2, Galaxy Nexus, and S3. But when they announced the introduction of Knox on the S4, that was the end of them for me.
And they keep trying to make it harder to root so that you can't uninstall the Samsung bloatware.
No thank you. Never Samsung again.

Cinner said:
Sure the new hardware will be stunning, but coming from an HTC, the Samsung software will be difficult to swallow. Better wait for the HTC 11 until you make a decision.
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Pretty much how I feel. Regardless of how much effort is put into the hardware, I just know it will all be ruined by their software.

I'm not switching to the S8. Not a fan at all of Samung's software and Boomsound is just too good to give up.

Thanks for everyone's reply. Seems like software limitation is the main concern here. My only samsung phone was the S2 and I'm not well aware of KNOX. what is its shortcoming? Is development really lagging for the galaxys? That's hard to believe given that the galaxys are so popular worldwide.
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that. I have no plans to stay on touchwiz. Would KNOX and the lack of development really hinder that? How about warranty? will disabling KNOX void warranty?

Varynn said:
I'm not switching to the S8. Not a fan at all of Samung's software and Boomsound is just too good to give up.
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I would love to use boomsound but bluetooth is just too convenient for me to go back to wired headphones =[

My 10 has been paid in full for a while and atm I am with T-Mobile and have JOD so it's not much of a switch rather than another addition but, yes I'll definitely check it out.

I will just say no to all phone with edge which is pointless and make it very different to read text and use onscreen keyboard. I judge by using mywife s7 edge and 3 weeks with note 7.
I will mostly go back to pixel if it have OIS, but anyway, I don't see the need to replace the HTC 10 right now, although the firmware, nfc, wifi, lack of rgb led disappoint me.
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c19932 said:
Thanks for everyone's reply. Seems like software limitation is the main concern here. My only samsung phone was the S2 and I'm not well aware of KNOX. what is its shortcoming? Is development really lagging for the galaxys? That's hard to believe given that the galaxys are so popular worldwide.
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that. I have no plans to stay on touchwiz. Would KNOX and the lack of development really hinder that? How about warranty? will disabling KNOX void warranty?
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If you want a phone with a combination of above average official firmware support, good camera, nice screen, then galaxy and note are a good one, it give ppl most of the thing they want and no so much bug/design fault. Can't say about oneplus as I don't have any.
Any mod to the galaxy will trap the flag and void warranty. Oneplus, Pixel and HTC (with sunshine) may be still the most root friendly.

c19932 said:
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that.
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Well it won't be as easy as that. With the S7, it took 4 months or so before a root exploit was even found. http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...e-with-snapdragon-820-successfully-rooted.htm (released in March, rooted in June)
There was even a bounty put out for whoever could find a way to get root for the AT&T version. https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s7/how-to/bounty-att-s7-root-exploit-t3341274
The S6 was a hard one to root as well.

As an owner of HTC 10 I bought a Galaxy S8 Plus. The first day I was very happy with the decision. Then the problem started. Random reboots like many people are suffering and no solutions nor statement from Samsung.
If anyone like me is thinking to change an HTC to Samsung think twice. I returned that piece of sh**t and HTC U11 here I go. Sad as a design the Galaxy S8 is the most beautiful piece of smartphone but not all is beauty, isn't.

Jadraker said:
As an owner of HTC 10 I bought a Galaxy S8 Plus. The first day I was very happy with the decision. Then the problem started. Random reboots like many people are suffering and no solutions nor statement from Samsung.
If anyone like me is thinking to change an HTC to Samsung think twice. I returned that piece of sh**t and HTC U11 here I go. Sad as a design the Galaxy S8 is the most beautiful piece of smartphone but not all is beauty, isn't.
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If I ever switch to some other smartphone company, it will be Apple...
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JUMP!ing to Another Device, NEED HELP!

Well it has been fun guys, I have definitely loved the experience of having the Note 3, but my 6 months are up and quite frankly, I just don't want it anymore. Just wish Cyanogenmod was kept up to date as fast as the S4 or Nexus 5. Anyway, it has been a great experience, and the community has been awesome for the most part. I just have one question to ask before I go for good...
Which one do I get???
Galaxy S5 or the Nexus 5??? OR maybe something else? Please help me decide XDA! Most of you guys know me as an experienced developer, and I am leaning towards the Nexus 5, but any reason why I should go with something else???
Thank you so much!!
WDM - Korey
I've been thinking about getting the new HTC one (m8). With an SD card slot, I'm thinking about moving back to htc. With Knox and a possibility of a locked bootloader Samsung is not going to be an option for the next phone I get. But if you are more into the pure Android experience and cm the Nexus 5 is a great phone too. Though there is a GPe version of the One which will be ported to the carriers by someone here.
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Man, after finally getting my hands on the 3, I just can't imagine why anyone would want to jump ship!
It's an amazing devise and there's so much development for it!
Having said that, the GS5 is gorgeous (of course), but I think if I were in your shoes (and just wanted away from the Note) I'd go with the newest Nexus series that's out.
Talk about your deluge of roms! Not only that, but if all else fails, you've got a rock solid stock Android experience you can always return too. That's highly compelling, to me at least.
Good luck with your decision, but I just know you'll miss having that 3 in your pocket and on your desk.
I'm in the same boat. I've decided on the HTC One m8 since you can have the best of both worlds (Google Play Rom should be available soon) and the hardware is fantastic. I just hope I don't get flak for Knox being tripped and that is the reason for me giving up on Samsung devices since I like to tinker with my devices.
I wouldn't jump to the S 5 since the bootloader is allegedly locked.
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I wouldn't jump to the S 5 since the bootloader is allegedly locked.
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Damn...well I would bet a lot of money that it will be unlocked in a week after release. Anyone wanna take me up on that?
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I would have thought the same about resetting 0X1 knox, too, but we all know that hasn't happened yet.
True lol
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Pointless...
Here's a link to T-Mobile's S5 webpage with specs...
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-5.html
I have an honest and legit question for you, actually a question I've been thinking about as well since I am ready to JUMP as of yesterday.
Why go get a S5 that has
a. A smaller screen then the Note3
b. 2gb of ram instead of the Note3's 3gb
c. Doesn't have the S-Pen (debatable depending on your actual use)
d. Both run KitKat stock
I understand the S5 has a 2.5ghz quad core and the Note3 only (lol) has a 2.3ghz quad core but is that .2ghz really nominal? I don't personally think so. Plus you loose 1gb of ram, which to me (running lots of apps) is a big deal.
I honestly have to say after doing some research, until T-Mobile releases a phone substantially better than the Note3 I have no reason to JUMP.
Opinions?
-DJ Nuff Said
I just don't like the lack of support for the device in the Dev community. Also, I'm tired of having such a big phone. It's a little excessive IMO
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Whosdaman said:
I just don't like the lack of support for the device in the Dev community. Also, I'm tired of having such a big phone. It's a little excessive IMO
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I agree with you on the dev part in a way. Yes, we don't have as much dev support (like the s2, s3, s4) but I think the dev support we do have is very solid. Yeah the jump to KK is buggy but that will go away soon enough. and if .6" less of screen really makes a huge difference of how much space it takes up in your pocket, then maybe you should buy a larger size of pants LOL jk man
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I agree with you on the dev part in a way. Yes, we don't have as much dev support (like the s2, s3, s4) but I think the dev support we do have is very solid. Yeah the jump to KK is buggy but that will go away soon enough. and if .6" less of screen really makes a huge difference of how much space it takes up in your pocket, then maybe you should buy a larger size of pants LOL jk man
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Lol, well like I said I'm more leaning towards nexus 5, and potentially iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 later this year. Just because I want to try the new thing
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I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
Here is why I have decided to get the note 3 , yet again after leaving verizon
1- S5 , from the rumors will have locked bootlaoder, I cant believe T-mobile is following the evil tracks, really upsets me , but I think in the long run, only nexus devices will be allowed to be modded without voiding warranty. S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance ) . Aside form that S5 like stated above, has less ram, more pixel density that you will mostly not notice , no stylus, and I kinda dig the faux leather thing with note 3. The only thing I used to think has going for it is the wifi boost technology but I am on 1 gb plan and no way will I use my Lte to supplement my wifi , so its a useless feature. Also my fingers are too big for 5 inch screens, I cant tolerate having to re-write every word 3 times.
2-Nexus devices, I think are now the only developer friendly left devices, with perseverance of warranty, but again I hate 5 inch screens, I hate lack of SD cards , specially that most carriers are Data mining to make money, since all of a sudden they have enough resources for unlimited text and talk , but not data. I am seriously considering nexus if they offer bigger screen and bigger on board memory, 64 gb on board and i might even compromise on the lack of 5.8 inch screens. Also I am not sure about removable battery, but I love to be prepared, and lack of ability to change batteries on the go is a major down side for me.
3-HTC one m8: after i had the rezound i vowed to never go back to HTC, but they have improved dramatically recently. But once again, they are now all s-on , not sure unlocking them using htcdev and the voiding of warranty . but again you lose changing the battery on the fly, the massive 5.8 inch screen, a gig of ram for a unibody that will get covered in a seidio case anyway. Camera is also subpar , but thats very subjective I think.
now I am paying the devil's advocate and tell you why should run and upgrade now :
1- I am assuming your knox is tripped, I feel like over night t-mobile will stop rejecting knox phones, so get your phone turned in before they do that. I still have an entire year before i pay off half my balance, during which I am praying for a knox reset method ( yeah i know its easier to establish a colony on Mars ) or I might have to throw it under my car
2- if you are into modding, and i believe that you are if you are on this forum, bear in mind that we are only satisfied when we mod our devices, we are not apple users. Sadly, i feel like android is taking the turn towards apple's philosophy in closed sourceness ( not a word , i know ) . I even said to my self, i dont need an unlocked bootloader and a root with my verizon note 3, its a beast and it gives me option to disable progs and with 3 gigs of ram it can withstand all the bloatware verizon throws at it. BIG mistake, hence why I am on t-mobile ( among other reasons ). We will never be satisfied with stock. So seriously consider Nexus devices ( since they are Jump eligible and I dont think modding them voids Jump but who knows , )
Right now as I see it, Sony, HTC , Samsung and even LG are all locked up and you are gambling staying stock till you are able to Jump yet again. Look at verizon's and ATT bootloaders , they are still locked, and all of our knoxes are tripped. I absolutely hate saying this but the difference in modding between Apple and Android is going to get very blurred. Can you imagine yourself with an iphone?
waw , end of rant ! thanks for the thread that finally let me vent, I hope the thread wont get moved to general
let us know you decision !!
Whosdaman said:
Lol, well like I said I'm more leaning towards nexus 5, and potentially iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 later this year. Just because I want to try the new thing
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Touché.
jmichaels1982 said:
I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
Here is why I have decided to get the note 3 , yet again after leaving verizon
1- S5 , from the rumors will have locked bootlaoder, I cant believe T-mobile is following the evil tracks, really upsets me , but I think in the long run, only nexus devices will be allowed to be modded without voiding warranty. S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance ) . Aside form that S5 like stated above, has less ram, more pixel density that you will mostly not notice , no stylus, and I kinda dig the faux leather thing with note 3. The only thing I used to think has going for it is the wifi boost technology but I am on 1 gb plan and no way will I use my Lte to supplement my wifi , so its a useless feature. Also my fingers are too big for 5 inch screens, I cant tolerate having to re-write every word 3 times.
2-Nexus devices, I think are now the only developer friendly left devices, with perseverance of warranty, but again I hate 5 inch screens, I hate lack of SD cards , specially that most carriers are Data mining to make money, since all of a sudden they have enough resources for unlimited text and talk , but not data. I am seriously considering nexus if they offer bigger screen and bigger on board memory, 64 gb on board and i might even compromise on the lack of 5.8 inch screens. Also I am not sure about removable battery, but I love to be prepared, and lack of ability to change batteries on the go is a major down side for me.
3-HTC one m8: after i had the rezound i vowed to never go back to HTC, but they have improved dramatically recently. But once again, they are now all s-on , not sure unlocking them using htcdev and the voiding of warranty . but again you lose changing the battery on the fly, the massive 5.8 inch screen, a gig of ram for a unibody that will get covered in a seidio case anyway. Camera is also subpar , but thats very subjective I think.
now I am paying the devil's advocate and tell you why should run and upgrade now :
1- I am assuming your knox is tripped, I feel like over night t-mobile will stop rejecting knox phones, so get your phone turned in before they do that. I still have an entire year before i pay off half my balance, during which I am praying for a knox reset method ( yeah i know its easier to establish a colony on Mars ) or I might have to throw it under my car
2- if you are into modding, and i believe that you are if you are on this forum, bear in mind that we are only satisfied when we mod our devices, we are not apple users. Sadly, i feel like android is taking the turn towards apple's philosophy in closed sourceness ( not a word , i know ) . I even said to my self, i dont need an unlocked bootloader and a root with my verizon note 3, its a beast and it gives me option to disable progs and with 3 gigs of ram it can withstand all the bloatware verizon throws at it. BIG mistake, hence why I am on t-mobile ( among other reasons ). We will never be satisfied with stock. So seriously consider Nexus devices ( since they are Jump eligible and I dont think modding them voids Jump but who knows , )
Right now as I see it, Sony, HTC , Samsung and even LG are all locked up and you are gambling staying stock till you are able to Jump yet again. Look at verizon's and ATT bootloaders , they are still locked, and all of our knoxes are tripped. I absolutely hate saying this but the difference in modding between Apple and Android is going to get very blurred. Can you imagine yourself with an iphone?
waw , end of rant ! thanks for the thread that finally let me vent, I hope the thread wont get moved to general
let us know you decision !!
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I definitely will. No worries about that. I've had a lot of people say get the HTC one since it has Dev edition. Which makes sense because it is basically the more improved nexus.
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What are you talking about, we've got: cm, carbon ROM, temasek, will03, team gummy, probably others that I'm missing. You've only got one phone, how much flashing do you actually do? But this phone beasts every phone out there as far looks and specs go
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What are you talking about, we've got: cm, carbon ROM, temasek, will03, team gummy, probably others that I'm missing. You've only got one phone, how much flashing do you actually do? But this phone beasts every phone out there as far looks and specs go
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Enough to know I have 2.
Besides, cm you can't even make phone calls from. And most of those you listed are cm based. The problem is that cm doesn't have active devs working on fixing the issues. We still don't have NFC, which plagues every ROM that is cm based. When the source isn't being worked on, how can you expect the rest to be any better? Really the best ROM out for the Note 3 is either carbon, if you like it, or stock KitKat. Pretty sad from what I see. Especially since I got this phone mainly for the development support and because it is so bad ass. But what good is that when you can't get consistent performance out of any of the roms, including stock.
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jmichaels1982 said:
I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance )
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It won't.
I returned a Knox 0x1 Note 3 to T-Mobile under the basic manufacturer's warranty (I don't pay for insurance because I never, ever destroyed a phone in my life) and got a brand new replacement, no questions asked. Many others have reported success returning/trading in Knox 0x1 devices to T-Mobile as well; do a search.
The only things they care about are no physical damage, untripped liquid intrusion sticker, and that it turns on. T-Mobile's refurbisher resets the Knox flag back to 0x0 when they refurbish the phone anyway. Obviously, flash it back to unrooted stock and do a factory reset before you send it in.
Cost me a total of $20 for the T-Mobile warranty processing fee.
If you send it back straight to Samsung, though, they'll deny warranty service as BER (beyond economical repair). T-Mobile FTW.
This may help in your decision.
http://youtu.be/eZ5fl3cHsDY
I see your point
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It won't.
I returned a Knox 0x1 Note 3 to T-Mobile under the basic manufacturer's warranty (I don't pay for insurance because I never, ever destroyed a phone in my life) and got a brand new replacement, no questions asked. Many others have reported success returning/trading in Knox 0x1 devices to T-Mobile as well; do a search.
The only things they care about are no physical damage, untripped liquid intrusion sticker, and that it turns on. T-Mobile's refurbisher resets the Knox flag back to 0x0 when they refurbish the phone anyway. Obviously, flash it back to unrooted stock and do a factory reset before you send it in.
Cost me a total of $20 for the T-Mobile warranty processing fee.
If you send it back straight to Samsung, though, they'll deny warranty service as BER (beyond economical repair). T-Mobile FTW.
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Right that is the current situation. I am just afraid of the future since I am sure t-mobile will catch on to it with samsung denying claims for knox tripped phones. Hence my statement, go get a knox free phone that you can mod without fear of losing Jump in the future.
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Whosdaman said:
I definitely will. No worries about that. I've had a lot of people say get the HTC one since it has Dev edition. Which makes sense because it is basically the more improved nexus.
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How do you Jump to a developer edition device ? I thought these are not offered on t-mobile Jump plans

[Q] About to upgrade Note 8; seeking advice / opinions from owners please :)

Hey everyone, I'm right on the verge of upgrading my current Galaxy Note 8 (SGH P5110 - wifi variant) to this device (the T-mobile lte variant), so I've been frantically searching this forum to make sure it was a reasonable upgrade and what the deal with the Tmo variant was, so I just wanted to clarify a few things I've learned so far, and just ask for opinions from xda members who own this device.
This "opportunity" came about rather unexpectedly, but in addition to the hardware upgrade, purchasing this tablet would have several additional significant benefits, to the point where cost is barely an issue (it will end up costing me next to nothing, if I don't actually make a little money on the deal). It's for this reason that if I were to go for an upgrade right now, it would have to be this device and it would have to be from T-mobile. The whole situation is kind of complex and super ridiculous, and even my hardest attempt to explain it briefly was getting out of hand... I'll edit this post and add it on tomorrow probably and those who don't care can easily skip it (probably a recommendation that also applies to "satisfied" AT&T customers, but then again, it's one of those "Yeah, I know. They actually pull that sort of thing regularly," so perhaps a PSA )
Anyway, to be honest, this tablet wouldn't really be on the "consideration" list if I was just looking for a new tablet... I'd at least wait to find out about the Nexus 9 if that were the case. However, upgrading my phone at some point is a much higher priority vs. tablet, despite the fact that it is pretty near to the "time" for one... I've been happy with the Note 8, and fortunately there were some very talented developers who worked on it, but not unlike your tablet, it was never really promoted by T-Mobile and never had a huge user-base. So this is pretty much my opportunity for a tablet upgrade, where I not to do it, I really can't say when I'd be able to retire the Note 8 (similar to internals of S3 despite being released around the time of the S4), however, the Note 10 does seem like it would be an extremely solid upgrade from the Note 8 so I just want to ask a few questions just to make sure I wouldn't really regret it on any level.
Ok, so the tablet sold by T-Mobile has the model number P607t, but it's really just a carrier branded P605 and compatible with the same ROMS as that device? If that's not the case / just to make sure: you can relatively easily gain full root (i.e. custom ROM, kernel, recovery)? Last, are there problems / issues / differences (aside from chipset) that make it inferior to the P605 or P600?
That's really all I just want to be sure of before pulling the trigger. Basic stuff, I know, but this was totally unexpected and don't have the luxury of time to do as much research as I'd like prior to deciding, so if anyone would be kind enough to address my impressions above, I'd be beyond grateful :good: Also any thoughts on the device sold by Tmo, or the upgrade from the P5110 to what looks to be a very nice device (despite how quickly Samsung stole the "super premium" label off of it) would be most welcome as well.
Hopefully I'm not mistaken regarding the info I've gleaned, and will soon have a new toy in hand. If that works out, I'll undoubtedly be spending much more time on this corner of XDA. Thanks much in advance
Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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Wait, the T-Mobile version works with towelroot without tripping KNOX?
I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.
You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.
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I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.
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Not a bad situation to be in Thanks for the confirmation / encouragement. I'd definitely agree that 10.5 inchers are preferable, particularly for a Note 3 owner, unless the 8" in question is easily root/ROMable and 10.1, despite being a very significant upgrade across the board (will go from looking at an 8" 1600X1200(!) screen to this absolute beauty) it's ridiculously locked down, bootloader etc, and basically you need to run it straight stock, unable to even remove worthless pre-installed malware.... Were that the case, despite the fact that financially, etc. it really doesn't make sense to not do it, I'd still rather stick with my customized Note 8. The unbreakable rule is: if I'm prevented from viewing every file on a device that I own (i.e. root directory obviously), well, that would never happen because no matter how tempting otherwise, I wouldn't under any circumstances get that device. I think that framing the issue of locked bootloader, etc. and forcing users to jump through hoops to attain that level of access is a good way to clarify just how flat-out silly the issue is at its core when explaining to, ya know, people (i.e. those weirdos that don't even have one Linux partiton ) why that's an issue that they 'should care' about.
So... bit of a tirade on a tangent there but that's at the front of my mind when purchasing hardware, so glad to hear that there won't be any unpleasant surprises when picking up a new device. So really appreciate the encouragement to go ahead with it as well as confirmation of my expectation that it'll be a fantastic upgrade!
Very excited to get my new tablet... maybe today! Going to start downloading files to flash in prep I've been scouring the internet for an ideal case (something slim but protective with an open from, ideally a tempered glass screen cover built in) but have noticed that options are relatively slim... Was considering just going with an Otterbox Defender, but I really don't want to add that width much with to the beautifully slim bezel. No bout I'll find something I like though. Looking forward to learning about and discussing my new hardware with you all!
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You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.
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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:
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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:
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Ah yeah you have Note 8 lol so really you have been set to the perfect standard to buy the Note 10.1 in terms of updates haha.
I couldn't find much info whether there is no KNOX tripping root for the P607. That's the only thing holding me back.
I had the Wi-Fi version and I really, really like it. Unfortunately, I had returned it because there was no root that won't trip Knox and I need root to disable the bloatware that is killing the battery and slowing down the tablet. There are a few thread I posted where I show screenshot of the battery life when the tablet is idle.
But you may not care about root, so go forth and get this tablet![emoji12]

Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.
510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.
Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?
I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.
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I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
Good Son 5 said:
Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT: Samsung will ask all global partners to stop sales and exchanges

Official Statement:
"We are working with relevant regulatory bodies to investigate the recently reported cases involving the Galaxy Note7. Because consumers’ safety remains our top priority, Samsung will ask all carrier and retail partners globally to stop sales and exchanges of the Galaxy Note7 while the investigation is taking place.
We remain committed to working diligently with appropriate regulatory authorities to take all necessary steps to resolve the situation. Consumers with either an original Galaxy Note7 or replacement Galaxy Note7 device should power down and stop using the device and take advantage of the remedies available."
Source: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
What are you Note 7 holders gonna do next?! "Don't forget to answer the poll! "
A second recall is on the way: http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ <-------- "Updated on Oct. 10 2016"
And I am still waiting my preorder!
This did not need another thread.
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This did not need another thread.
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Why not? It's the newest info and there is no real "note 7 burn discussion thread". I'm just curious why the thread is bad actually. It's an important information, that shouldn't be buried in a 20 site thread.
Btw. link to the news: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
I returned mine and my wife's to att for complete refund.. I now have an axon 7 on order and she has the oneplus 3 coming..
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I returned mine and my wife's to att for complete refund.. I now have an axon 7 on order and she has the oneplus 3 coming..
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Yeah ... right when I can get a new phone this problem comes up and now I don't really have something to get... need a good camera and > 5.5"...
- note 7 > flames
- pixel > too expensive (could buy it, but I won't because the price itself is an insolence...)
- LG v20 > no release in europe for now
- moto z > cam not that good
- Sony Z5 > no alternate firmware / root without loosing some cam quality etc.
- One Plus, Axon, HTC ... > bad cams in comparison
Right now I even thing about getting a nexus 6p (like my wife, nightshots are awesome and cheap to get). Still will wait a bit how this disaster plays out for samsung. If they can fix it, the note is not off the table.
Same as my thoughts! You can answer the poll then
Thank you!
Maerad said:
Yeah ... right when I can get a new phone this problem comes up and now I don't really have something to get... need a good camera and > 5.5"...
- note 7 > flames
- pixel > too expensive (could buy it, but I won't because the price itself is an insolence...)
- LG v20 > no release in europe for now
- moto z > cam not that good
- Sony Z5 > no alternate firmware / root without loosing some cam quality etc.
- One Plus, Axon, HTC ... > bad cams in comparison
Right now I even thing about getting a nexus 6p (like my wife, nightshots are awesome and cheap to get). Still will wait a bit how this disaster plays out for samsung. If they can fix it, the note is not off the table.
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Hmmm... This really is a bummer. I got my N930FD through EBay and have no idea what to do lol.
...But there's a poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im going to turn my two in and go to something else... Im really pissed about it cause i love this phone, and nothing else compares....
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Hmmm... This really is a bummer. I got my N930FD through EBay and have no idea what to do lol.
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If Samsung ceases total production on it or even if they put out a v3 .. they would have to replace it for you since it's now a pariah. I'd call them and get them to exchange it for an S7 Edge. It IS the very least they could do. I really, really wanted this 2nd battery to be the fix and we could move on. Alas, that sh** ain't happening.
Im going to have to ask for a full refund. No need to try thirst note 7.
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If Samsung ceases total production on it or even if they put out a v3 .. they would have to replace it for you since it's now a pariah. I'd call them and get them to exchange it for an S7 Edge. It IS the very least they could do. I really, really wanted this 2nd battery to be the fix and we could move on. Alas, that sh** ain't happening.
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Ya this truly is a $hit storm. I love this unit as it runs perfect I'm still actually using the original unit but since all these new inconvenience it's getting frusting especially if ever they decide to stop supporting and updates. :crying:
So, will we be able to exchange the S7 Edge loaners for Note 7's once they are deemed safe again?
I know it's a hassle, but I really like this phone. I don't even care about Nougat or future updates other than security updates...
Samsung can stick the 25$ gift card/credit up their a$$. I wasted countless hours in the last 2 months on this phone. Great phone but not worth all this BS.
I suppose I will hold onto it until the v20 hits. Hopefully it's not hard to obtain since many will be jumping the sinking Samsung ship like I am.
I want to keep the Note 7. I don't want any other device. I'll replace it again if needed but I want another Note 7. There is no other device comparable to the Note. Maybe by some miracle we can get a unlocked bootloader edition Note 7 by chance. Just think how awesome custom Roms could be for this device.
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I want to keep the Note 7. I don't want any other device. I'll replace it again if needed but I want another Note 7. There is no other device comparable to the Note. Maybe by some miracle we can get a unlocked bootloader edition Note 7 by chance. Just think how awesome custom Roms could be for this device.
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You would have to wonder how much time and effort Samsung will put into this device with future updates...the community around this device will be small as well, which won't bode well for custom roms.
I was waiting for my wife's carrier to get the Note 7 in stock to get one (they had already discounted it to $0 on a 2 year contract, and her contract was up). I have and love my S7 and it has me spoiled.
If anyone can name me a 5.5in amoled screen or larger phone with awesome camera, sd card slot and good water resistance, I'll bite. I'm not a fan of the big curves of the S7 Edge
Guess I'm on track with having the S7 Edge for 2-3 years, then getting the Note 9 or 10...
Wonder what the tech will be then?
I agree with that, I am not giving up mine, but am worried about the future of updates. I have the ATT one, and they suck on updates anyways. That scares me more than the phone popping.
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I agree with that, I am not giving up mine, but am worried about the future of updates. I have the ATT one, and they suck on updates anyways. That scares me more than the phone popping.
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The way I see it, samsung will not put too much effort into updating it...because they DID say to return it completely or exchange it...as a business if i have sent out such notice, i will not expect buyers to dive at it once again (upon a second recall) if ever released...with that information, i will put my energy elsewhere to bring in profit...rather than a sinking ship.
adding sammy delay in update to that of the carrier...we are looking at nouget in 2 years lol
Over the past 2 years the Note series and S series phones have become very closely related, almost identical besides the s-pen and software. I wouldn't doubt for Samsung to scrap the note line altogether after this and have the S8 and new S8+ with included s-pen. Nightmare from the note goes away and they continue on with their successful S series. They've already had a Note 8 before so they had to change something with the name anyway. Just an idea.
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I think they push a FW update again, disabling the phone if you do not power down yourself.
But yes, I can wait... again....

I am giving up my Note 7 and I am considering the HTC 10.

Hello everyone it's been a while since I have posted anything on a HTC section. I am currently have the Note 7 and well I have to give it up. I was considering the S7 but there is practically zero roms for it due to the locked boot loader. I wanted to get some feedback from the community and see if your current experience and thoughts are on the 10.
I love trying out new roms, currently in love with TEKHD roms.
What do you guys like about the phone? Pros and cons. If you could go back, Would you consider the S7 despite the locked bootloader or buy a different phone?
The v20 is out but I am not digging the phone, mainly for the price point. Only reason to consider the S7 and S7 Edge is due to the free 256gb SD Card and 100 bucks in credit from samsung. Oh and lastly, I don't see a HTC 10 for tmobile, is there a reason for that?
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Hello everyone it's been a while since I have posted anything on a HTC section. I am currently have the Note 7 and well I have to give it up. I was considering the S7 but there is practically zero roms for it due to the locked boot loader. I wanted to get some feedback from the community and see if your current experience and thoughts are on the 10.
I love trying out new roms, currently in love with TEKHD roms.
What do you guys like about the phone? Pros and cons. If you could go back, Would you consider the S7 despite the locked bootloader or buy a different phone?
The v20 is out but I am not digging the phone, mainly for the price point. Only reason to consider the S7 and S7 Edge is due to the free 256gb SD Card and 100 bucks in credit from samsung. Oh and lastly, I don't see a HTC 10 for tmobile, is there a reason for that?
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I wouldn't get the S7. I had it for 4 months and was not happy with it, even though overall it's a great phone. I would DEF get the HTC 10 over it. The camera on the S7 has slightly more detail than the 10's, but the 10's is more color accurate (as is the screen vs. S7's). The sound quality during calls was not that great on my S7 (locked from T-Mobile). I have the Sony Xperia XP right now and even w/o VoLTE (incl. HD Voice) it still sounds WAY better. The single speaker on the S7 is the worst ever too. I mean it really sux! lol The HTC 10 also has cool features like double tap to wake & sleep, smart call handling/auto answer calls (answer calls by simply picking up phone while it lays flat and lifting it to your ear; no need to swipe screen anymore), etc. The audio technology on the HTC 10 is WAY better b/c they put in more money on it and everyone thinks it sounds the best! I listen to a lot of music on premium headphones, and I know the 10 won't disappoint (I tried it out for a week). If using a digital connection to the S7 for headphone listening, because of a USB driver issue, it will make your music skip like every 3-5 min. I really DON'T miss that! lol
Also, HTC is VERY cool with ppl unlocking its bootloaders. So since you like flashing ROMs, that's another plus with getting a 10.
The HTC 10 is currently on sale 'til next Monday for $150 off. The only down side is they're out of 2 of the 4 colors (available on unlocked models only) until most likely after the sale ends. So right now there's only the black and silver ones available, but both are nice too. I had the One M8 in silver a couple years ago and it was great phone! And they've only gotten better since, though I hope the HTC 11 moves that fingerprint sensor from the front and INTEGRATES it into the side Power button the way Sony does it, and then also move that bottom facing speaker back to its rightful place at the bottom front. We'll see. Still, the 10 is great though.
The 10 didn't sell well enough for T-Mobile to keep it in stock I guess, so you can only buy it from HTC or maybe Amazon (etc) online now? I guess SOME T-Mobile stores have it in stock still, but you'd have to call and find them, and there may not be any around you that do. The good news is, HTC actually CARED enough about their customers (unlike Sony Mobile) to get the unlocked HTC 10 certified with T-Mobile for their VoLTE (which includes HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling services, so you WILL get both of those features on even the unlocked one. I say get the unlocked one b/c more color options + you'll get updates faster cuz they won't have to go through T-Mobile first to get configured before deployment.
On top of all that, you get HTC's Uh-Oh Protection plan. The first year is covered with that (for free) for broken screens or water damage, and if you DON'T use it, you get a $100 credit off the purchase of a future HTC One series phone. More details here. A sweet deal if you ask me.
Hope that helps!
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I wouldn't get the S7. I had it for 4 months and was not happy with it, even though overall it's a great phone. I would DEF get the HTC 10 over it. The camera on the S7 has slightly more detail than the 10's, but the 10's is more color accurate (as is the screen vs. S7's). The sound quality during calls was not that great on my S7 (locked from T-Mobile). I have the Sony Xperia XP right now and even w/o VoLTE (incl. HD Voice) it still sounds WAY better. The single speaker on the S7 is the worst ever too. I mean it really sux! lol The HTC 10 also has cool features like double tap to wake & sleep, smart call handling/auto answer calls (answer calls by simply picking up phone while it lays flat and lifting it to your ear; no need to swipe screen anymore), etc. The audio technology on the HTC 10 is WAY better b/c they put in more money on it and everyone thinks it sounds the best! I listen to a lot of music on premium headphones, and I know the 10 won't disappoint (I tried it out for a week). If using a digital connection to the S7 for headphone listening, because of a USB driver issue, it will make your music skip like every 3-5 min. I really DON'T miss that! lol
Also, HTC is VERY cool with ppl unlocking its bootloaders. So since you like flashing ROMs, that's another plus with getting a 10.
The HTC 10 is currently on sale 'til next Monday for $150 off. The only down side is they're out of 2 of the 4 colors (available on unlocked models only) until most likely after the sale ends. So right now there's only the black and silver ones available, but both are nice too. I had the One M8 in silver a couple years ago and it was great phone! And they've only gotten better since, though I hope the HTC 11 moves that fingerprint sensor from the front and INTEGRATES it into the side Power button the way Sony does it, and then also move that bottom facing speaker back to its rightful place at the bottom front. We'll see. Still, the 10 is great though.
The 10 didn't sell well enough for T-Mobile to keep it in stock I guess, so you can only buy it from HTC or maybe Amazon (etc) online now? I guess SOME T-Mobile stores have it in stock still, but you'd have to call and find them, and there may not be any around you that do. The good news is, HTC actually CARED enough about their customers (unlike Sony Mobile) to get the unlocked HTC 10 certified with T-Mobile for their VoLTE (which includes HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling services, so you WILL get both of those features on even the unlocked one. I say get the unlocked one b/c more color options + you'll get updates faster cuz they won't have to go through T-Mobile first to get configured before deployment.
On top of all that, you get HTC's Uh-Oh Protection plan. The first year is covered with that (for free) for broken screens or water damage, and if you DON'T use it, you get a $100 credit off the purchase of a future HTC One series phone. More details here. A sweet deal if you ask me.
Hope that helps!
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I called several stores and none of them have it. I know I can go directly to HTC and buy it but I can not afford to pay the full retail price. I was hoping I could finance it through tmobile. ;/ I might just have to stick with my trusty Note 5 or opt for a S7 or S7 Edge which I just found out have practically zero modding community
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I called several stores and none of them have it. I know I can go directly to HTC and buy it but I can not afford to pay the full retail price. I was hoping I could finance it through tmobile. ;/ I might just have to stick with my trusty Note 5 or opt for a S7 or S7 Edge which I just found out have practically zero modding community
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I C.
If you have Amazon Prime like I do, you could sign up for their Amazon Prime Store Card (log in to Amazon to see details). I got it sometime ago, and it lets you pay off any item at or over $149 over 6 mos interest-free, or at/over $599 12 mos interest-free. That's what I'm using now actually to pay off my Sony Xperia X Performance actually. Prices will vary here though and you HAVE to make sure not the get the int'l ones off Amazon b/c 4G LTE doesn't work on them. (Read the descriptions before buying.)
HTC.com DOES have a monthly financing option as well through PayPal. They say you get a $250 line of credit if approved, but when you go through the application process, it appears they raise it to cover the FULL price of the phone. You'll get 6 months to pay it off, interest-free. Select "PayPal Credit" in checkout to see that option on the HTC site.
Both options will require a credit check, which is not a big deal if you haven't recently applied for a credit card or credit of some kind and are in good standing. Even if you have applied once or twice recently, it should be fine. Look at the details of both and then make your decision.
P.S. See my last post again. I added some stuff like the Uh-Oh Protection part right when you replied.
Hope that helps! F Samsung! lol
F9zSlavik said:
Hello everyone it's been a while since I have posted anything on a HTC section. I am currently have the Note 7 and well I have to give it up. I was considering the S7 but there is practically zero roms for it due to the locked boot loader. I wanted to get some feedback from the community and see if your current experience and thoughts are on the 10.
I love trying out new roms, currently in love with TEKHD roms.
What do you guys like about the phone? Pros and cons. If you could go back, Would you consider the S7 despite the locked bootloader or buy a different phone?
The v20 is out but I am not digging the phone, mainly for the price point. Only reason to consider the S7 and S7 Edge is due to the free 256gb SD Card and 100 bucks in credit from samsung. Oh and lastly, I don't see a HTC 10 for tmobile, is there a reason for that?
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I switched from Note 7 to HTC 10, so far the phone is blazing fast. Haven't experienced any lag of any kind unlike Note 7. When typing on the Note 7 you experience the input lag and you have to uninstall apps in order to make the phone fast. While htc 10 you don't have to delete apps to make the phone fast it's already fast. The only thing i miss from the note is the big screen and Samsung pay. Watching videos on the 10 is good experience especially with the loud speakers. So yeah if you can find the 10 in a store I highly recommend getting it.
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I switched from Note 7 to HTC 10, so far the phone is blazing fast. Haven't experienced any lag of any kind unlike Note 7. When typing on the Note 7 you experience the input lag and you have to uninstall apps in order to make the phone fast. While htc 10 you don't have to delete apps to make the phone fast it's already fast. The only thing i miss from the note is the big screen and Samsung pay. Watching videos on the 10 is good experience especially with the loud speakers. So yeah if you can find the 10 in a store I highly recommend getting it.
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I agree with L on the lag. My S7 lagged ALL the time. Funny how a phone with 4 GBs of RAM and an 820 processor is slower to load things up than my Sony Xperia X Performance, which only has 3 GBs of RAM. And yes, all the reviews indicate that both music and call quality is crystal clear on the 10 (which was the same for the previous One series phones by HTC).
I'll admit that Samsung Pay was kinda cool to have, but I'd never stay with Samsung just for that. That's literally the ONLY thing I miss about my S7. lol
Yes check the stores but seriously consider that PayPal Credit option too via the HTC site. That's what I would do. Plus by buying it through their site you get that Uh-Oh Protection, which you WON'T get if you buy it through T-Mobile or even Amazon. And if you don't use Uh-Oh, that's $100 off your next HTC phone, saving you even more money in the future.
I don't have much to add other than I was in your shoes looking to replace my Note 7 and I'm happy I got the HTC 10.
I didn't even know what fast was until I got this phone.
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I had a tough decision between the Note 7 and the HTC 10 before I bought my device. It was before we knew they were all catching on fire, so I was seriously considering the Note 7 as well as the 10.
I pay full retail price on my devices, and money is tight so I have to be quite picky. I'm VERY happy that I chose the HTC 10 myself. The sunshine s off process is amazing, and worth every dime, you don't even have to bother with the bootloader unlock basically, if you go s-off, which I recommend in most cases of users (I have a theory for really wreckless people and s off, it's like drunk drivers, just put them in their own lane, they'll eliminate themselves)
For me, I only full with Android and run devices that I can root and flash on, it's my hobby, and kind of like my cars, I won't pay for something I can't tinker with or fix things I don't like, at least have the option.
While the HTC 10 hasn't been the largest device for custom rom quantity as far as development goes, I think the development quality is better than a lot of devices with way more roms available.
If you don't like HTC sense, and enjoy the HTC interface, I'd recommend a different device personally. You can eliminate HTC sense and run nova launcher, but the base of the rom will be HTC.
The kernels available for the device, if you enjoy flashing and tuning custom kernels, are awesome. All of the kernels I've tried from the development section ran really well, so it's not one of those cases where there's only a few options and they all suck, as some other devices have had, all of these rom and kernel developers have done outstanding.
Now for screen size, if you're buying the Note 7 for a huge screen, I would consider if it's going to be a problem that you only have a semi-huge screen. In my opinion, the screen size is perfect, I can reach everything easily and I don't have huge hands, and the fingerprint reader on the front of the HTC 10 is the ONLY fingerprint reader I've ever used consistently because it's the only one that's ever been implemented so well.
Charlies,
My "bootloader unlocking/rooting" days began & ended 2 years ago with my HTC One M8. At first I loved the extra freedom that comes with that world, but after a while I didn't like it so much b/c you have to do everything manually, so when I upgraded to the Sony Xperia Z3 later that year, that era was done with. Still, I got to upgrade my sound on my T-Mobile M8 from BoomSound to the Sprint Harman/Kardon sound using that process to obtain an H/K mod someone had extracted from the Sprint version. It def made a noticeable improvement in sound quality at the time, and I loved it! I too did the S-Off thing too (but not using Sunshine, I found another way that was free) as it was required in addition to unlocking the bootloader and rooting in order to install that mod. So I guess I was wreckless? lol
I feel like HTC is the only brand that not only lets you unlock the bootloader w/o penalty, but actually SUPPORTS the practice too.
Yes, when I had the HTC 10 that one week in June I recall the fingerprint sensor functioning very well too! I HATE phablets, so the HTC 10 is definitely what I'd go with over the Note anything. lol
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Oh and lastly, I don't see a HTC 10 for tmobile, is there a reason for that?
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Unlocked version is GSM; T-Mo and AT&T are GSM. That's the version I have and I use Ting, which uses T-Mo & AT&T.
Unlocked version direct from htc, nice warranty, unlock support, most recent RUUs available for download, $150 off won me over. I like the phone so far (only had it a week).
Wife loves it. We wanted the Note 7 but we also wanted to live. The Pixel, the S7, and the V20 just aren't worth the cost to us.
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Unlocked version is GSM; T-Mo and AT&T are GSM. That's the version I have and I use Ting, which uses T-Mo & AT&T.
Unlocked version direct from htc, nice warranty, unlock support, most recent RUUs available for download, $150 off won me over. I like the phone so far (only had it a week).
Wife loves it. We wanted the Note 7 but we also wanted to live. The Pixel, the S7, and the V20 just aren't worth the cost to us.
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After that 1 year "Uh-Oh Protection" warranty ends, and you decide you want to keep it beyond the first year, you can do what I did which was get PRIVATE phone insurance for your phone. The 2 best ones are Square Trade and Worth Ave. Group. I went with Worth Ave. Group b/c I liked that they cover thefts too, though not malfunctions. Square Trade is the opposite. But if something goes wrong, just crack the screen and Worth Ave. will replace it anyway. lol And Worth is cheaper too.
Not everyone wants to get a new phone within a year of buying their last one, and not everyone wants or likes a carrier phone, so this is a great option for those people!
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After that 1 year "Uh-Oh Protection" warranty ends, and you decide you want to keep it beyond the first year, you can do what I did which was get PRIVATE phone insurance for your phone. The 2 best ones are Square Trade and Worth Ave. Group. I went with Worth Ave. Group b/c I liked that they cover thefts too, though not malfunctions. Square Trade is the opposite. But if something goes wrong, just crack the screen and Worth Ave. will replace it anyway. lol And Worth is cheaper too.
Not everyone wants to get a new phone within a year of buying their last one, and not everyone wants or likes a carrier phone, so this is a great option for those people!
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Insurance is to cover something one cannot afford to replace. If that's the case, then one shouldn't be buying phones one cannot afford!
Otherwise, my MIL-STD-810G-tested case is my "insurance".
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Insurance is to cover something one cannot afford to replace. If that's the case, then one shouldn't be buying phones one cannot afford!
Otherwise, my MIL-STD-810G-tested case is my "insurance".
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Ok. I guess people shouldn't be buying homes and cars either. lol Just because I can afford something doesn't mean I wanna pay full price to replace it.
Hey, if you decide to get the HTC 10 let me know and I'll pm you a $150 off coupon code that HTC gave me.
In regards to the OP,
If you have the cash to dish out on an unlocked HTC 10 then you will definitely not be disappointed. At this point, HTC is one of the most 'modding friendly' companies left... next to buying a Nexus of course.
But if you don't have the cash i'd recommend getting a refurbished M8. They can be had for $90-$150. My son uses my old M8 now so I keep it updated... currently have S.Team's latest rom. Only areas where my 10 outshines the M8 is the Camera, DAC, & some gaming. In terms of day-to-day performance though, they are identical
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Insurance is to cover something one cannot afford to replace. If that's the case, then one shouldn't be buying phones one cannot afford!
Otherwise, my MIL-STD-810G-tested case is my "insurance".
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Either way, insurance is only beneficial if the phone being replaced is fairly new. I've never tried any private insurance so I can't speak on that. But, you have to meet the deductible (up to $199) to get a phone replaced. You'd be better off using that $199 towards a better phone
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Either way, insurance is only beneficial if the phone being replaced is fairly new. I've never tried any private insurance so I can't speak on that. But, you have to meet the deductible (up to $199) to get a phone replaced. You'd be better off using that $199 towards a better phone
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Yes, it is only worth doing on a new device. I'll agree with you there.
$199? Maybe if you're insuring from AT&T. My insurer, Worth Ave. Group, only charges $50 for the deductible. And my phone is pretty new (purchased in mid to late June).
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Yes, it is only worth doing on a new device. I'll agree with you there.
$199? Maybe if you're insuring from AT&T. My insurer, Worth Ave. Group, only charges $50 for the deductible. And my phone is pretty new (purchased in mid to late June).
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Yea, carriers is what I was referring to... AT&T and Verizon specifically. If it appears to be a manufacturer defect both will replace it for free even after the warranty expires. Ironically, Verizon is a little more lenient than AT&T in that aspect. I'm gonna look into Worth Ave. Group though. I skimmed through the link you gave & so far seems like decent way to go.
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Please elaborate. Sharing is caring.
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Yea, carriers is what I was referring to... AT&T and Verizon specifically. If it appears to be a manufacturer defect both will replace it for free even after the warranty expires. Ironically, Verizon is a little more lenient than AT&T in that aspect. I'm gonna look into Worth Ave. Group though. I skimmed through the link you gave & so far seems like decent way to go.
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Ok. Yeah Square Trade won't cover theft, but will cover defective phones, where Worth Ave Group is the opposite. To me, if the phone goes bad, I'll just take a hammer to the screen and be done with it, since Worth DOES cover accidental damage and/or cracked screens. lol
I think Worth offers the best bang for your buck too. Plus they have an A+ rating with the BBB. Not much more you can ask for.
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Please elaborate. Sharing is caring.
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Hey samisax,
I wish I could give you specific information, but the fact is, that was 2 years ago, and I don't remember exactly what I did or how I did it. I just know that in order to install the Harman/Kardon mod that was exclusive to the Sprint HTC One M8 "Harman/Kardon Special Edition" phones (the M8 phones had all the SAME hardware, but Sprint H/K M8s had this software no other carrier or even HTC's unlocked phones did, until this guy created a mod from that software) onto my T-Mobile One M8, I had to unlock the bootloader, root the phone, AND switch "S-On" to "S-Off". The S-Off part was I THINK the hardest? I just remember it took me a few tries and I was up 'til like 2am one night doing it, but then right there I FINALLY got it, and was able to install the mod (amongst other things, but THAT was my priority). I remember definitely noticing an improvement in the already great sound, and being quite happy with the results. And now Harman/Kardon stereo systems are being put into Mercedes Benz cars. lol
I have no interest in going through all that again though. It was a cool "adventure" for 3-4 months there, but then I got tired and what was fun at first started feeling more like work. You have to maintain everything manually when you unlock the bootloader and/or root I learned, and I stopped enjoying that after a while. Not long after.... the Sony Xperia Z3 finally came out, and so I switched to that after about 6 mos with the M8....... and that (Z3) is arguably the best phone I ever had. I had S7 (Samsung.........mehh lol), the HTC 10 for like a week, and now the Sony Xperia X Performance. But the battery life on my Z3 TRUMPS those newer phones in that arena. I think it's really cool though that HTC is so supportive of and pro-modding. They clearly care more about their customers (esp U.S. customers) than Sony Mobile does. I'm seeing that more and more. As mentioned in my one post in this thread, HTC offers the Uh-Oh Protection Plan (and pays you $100 off your next phone if you don't use it)..........they made sure to activate the fingerprint sensor in the U.S. versions of the 10................they made sure to meet T-Mobile's certification requirements for VoLTE (including HD Voice) & Wi-Fi Calling on their unlocked phones................they release their phones in a TIMELY manner in the U.S......................these are all things Sony Mobile is unwilling to do. So in 2017 I may very well switch back. We'll see.

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