Well it has been fun guys, I have definitely loved the experience of having the Note 3, but my 6 months are up and quite frankly, I just don't want it anymore. Just wish Cyanogenmod was kept up to date as fast as the S4 or Nexus 5. Anyway, it has been a great experience, and the community has been awesome for the most part. I just have one question to ask before I go for good...
Which one do I get???
Galaxy S5 or the Nexus 5??? OR maybe something else? Please help me decide XDA! Most of you guys know me as an experienced developer, and I am leaning towards the Nexus 5, but any reason why I should go with something else???
Thank you so much!!
WDM - Korey
I've been thinking about getting the new HTC one (m8). With an SD card slot, I'm thinking about moving back to htc. With Knox and a possibility of a locked bootloader Samsung is not going to be an option for the next phone I get. But if you are more into the pure Android experience and cm the Nexus 5 is a great phone too. Though there is a GPe version of the One which will be ported to the carriers by someone here.
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Man, after finally getting my hands on the 3, I just can't imagine why anyone would want to jump ship!
It's an amazing devise and there's so much development for it!
Having said that, the GS5 is gorgeous (of course), but I think if I were in your shoes (and just wanted away from the Note) I'd go with the newest Nexus series that's out.
Talk about your deluge of roms! Not only that, but if all else fails, you've got a rock solid stock Android experience you can always return too. That's highly compelling, to me at least.
Good luck with your decision, but I just know you'll miss having that 3 in your pocket and on your desk.
I'm in the same boat. I've decided on the HTC One m8 since you can have the best of both worlds (Google Play Rom should be available soon) and the hardware is fantastic. I just hope I don't get flak for Knox being tripped and that is the reason for me giving up on Samsung devices since I like to tinker with my devices.
I wouldn't jump to the S 5 since the bootloader is allegedly locked.
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I wouldn't jump to the S 5 since the bootloader is allegedly locked.
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Damn...well I would bet a lot of money that it will be unlocked in a week after release. Anyone wanna take me up on that?
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I would have thought the same about resetting 0X1 knox, too, but we all know that hasn't happened yet.
True lol
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Pointless...
Here's a link to T-Mobile's S5 webpage with specs...
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-5.html
I have an honest and legit question for you, actually a question I've been thinking about as well since I am ready to JUMP as of yesterday.
Why go get a S5 that has
a. A smaller screen then the Note3
b. 2gb of ram instead of the Note3's 3gb
c. Doesn't have the S-Pen (debatable depending on your actual use)
d. Both run KitKat stock
I understand the S5 has a 2.5ghz quad core and the Note3 only (lol) has a 2.3ghz quad core but is that .2ghz really nominal? I don't personally think so. Plus you loose 1gb of ram, which to me (running lots of apps) is a big deal.
I honestly have to say after doing some research, until T-Mobile releases a phone substantially better than the Note3 I have no reason to JUMP.
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-DJ Nuff Said
I just don't like the lack of support for the device in the Dev community. Also, I'm tired of having such a big phone. It's a little excessive IMO
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I just don't like the lack of support for the device in the Dev community. Also, I'm tired of having such a big phone. It's a little excessive IMO
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I agree with you on the dev part in a way. Yes, we don't have as much dev support (like the s2, s3, s4) but I think the dev support we do have is very solid. Yeah the jump to KK is buggy but that will go away soon enough. and if .6" less of screen really makes a huge difference of how much space it takes up in your pocket, then maybe you should buy a larger size of pants LOL jk man
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I agree with you on the dev part in a way. Yes, we don't have as much dev support (like the s2, s3, s4) but I think the dev support we do have is very solid. Yeah the jump to KK is buggy but that will go away soon enough. and if .6" less of screen really makes a huge difference of how much space it takes up in your pocket, then maybe you should buy a larger size of pants LOL jk man
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Lol, well like I said I'm more leaning towards nexus 5, and potentially iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 later this year. Just because I want to try the new thing
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I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
Here is why I have decided to get the note 3 , yet again after leaving verizon
1- S5 , from the rumors will have locked bootlaoder, I cant believe T-mobile is following the evil tracks, really upsets me , but I think in the long run, only nexus devices will be allowed to be modded without voiding warranty. S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance ) . Aside form that S5 like stated above, has less ram, more pixel density that you will mostly not notice , no stylus, and I kinda dig the faux leather thing with note 3. The only thing I used to think has going for it is the wifi boost technology but I am on 1 gb plan and no way will I use my Lte to supplement my wifi , so its a useless feature. Also my fingers are too big for 5 inch screens, I cant tolerate having to re-write every word 3 times.
2-Nexus devices, I think are now the only developer friendly left devices, with perseverance of warranty, but again I hate 5 inch screens, I hate lack of SD cards , specially that most carriers are Data mining to make money, since all of a sudden they have enough resources for unlimited text and talk , but not data. I am seriously considering nexus if they offer bigger screen and bigger on board memory, 64 gb on board and i might even compromise on the lack of 5.8 inch screens. Also I am not sure about removable battery, but I love to be prepared, and lack of ability to change batteries on the go is a major down side for me.
3-HTC one m8: after i had the rezound i vowed to never go back to HTC, but they have improved dramatically recently. But once again, they are now all s-on , not sure unlocking them using htcdev and the voiding of warranty . but again you lose changing the battery on the fly, the massive 5.8 inch screen, a gig of ram for a unibody that will get covered in a seidio case anyway. Camera is also subpar , but thats very subjective I think.
now I am paying the devil's advocate and tell you why should run and upgrade now :
1- I am assuming your knox is tripped, I feel like over night t-mobile will stop rejecting knox phones, so get your phone turned in before they do that. I still have an entire year before i pay off half my balance, during which I am praying for a knox reset method ( yeah i know its easier to establish a colony on Mars ) or I might have to throw it under my car
2- if you are into modding, and i believe that you are if you are on this forum, bear in mind that we are only satisfied when we mod our devices, we are not apple users. Sadly, i feel like android is taking the turn towards apple's philosophy in closed sourceness ( not a word , i know ) . I even said to my self, i dont need an unlocked bootloader and a root with my verizon note 3, its a beast and it gives me option to disable progs and with 3 gigs of ram it can withstand all the bloatware verizon throws at it. BIG mistake, hence why I am on t-mobile ( among other reasons ). We will never be satisfied with stock. So seriously consider Nexus devices ( since they are Jump eligible and I dont think modding them voids Jump but who knows , )
Right now as I see it, Sony, HTC , Samsung and even LG are all locked up and you are gambling staying stock till you are able to Jump yet again. Look at verizon's and ATT bootloaders , they are still locked, and all of our knoxes are tripped. I absolutely hate saying this but the difference in modding between Apple and Android is going to get very blurred. Can you imagine yourself with an iphone?
waw , end of rant ! thanks for the thread that finally let me vent, I hope the thread wont get moved to general
let us know you decision !!
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Lol, well like I said I'm more leaning towards nexus 5, and potentially iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 later this year. Just because I want to try the new thing
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Touché.
jmichaels1982 said:
I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
Here is why I have decided to get the note 3 , yet again after leaving verizon
1- S5 , from the rumors will have locked bootlaoder, I cant believe T-mobile is following the evil tracks, really upsets me , but I think in the long run, only nexus devices will be allowed to be modded without voiding warranty. S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance ) . Aside form that S5 like stated above, has less ram, more pixel density that you will mostly not notice , no stylus, and I kinda dig the faux leather thing with note 3. The only thing I used to think has going for it is the wifi boost technology but I am on 1 gb plan and no way will I use my Lte to supplement my wifi , so its a useless feature. Also my fingers are too big for 5 inch screens, I cant tolerate having to re-write every word 3 times.
2-Nexus devices, I think are now the only developer friendly left devices, with perseverance of warranty, but again I hate 5 inch screens, I hate lack of SD cards , specially that most carriers are Data mining to make money, since all of a sudden they have enough resources for unlimited text and talk , but not data. I am seriously considering nexus if they offer bigger screen and bigger on board memory, 64 gb on board and i might even compromise on the lack of 5.8 inch screens. Also I am not sure about removable battery, but I love to be prepared, and lack of ability to change batteries on the go is a major down side for me.
3-HTC one m8: after i had the rezound i vowed to never go back to HTC, but they have improved dramatically recently. But once again, they are now all s-on , not sure unlocking them using htcdev and the voiding of warranty . but again you lose changing the battery on the fly, the massive 5.8 inch screen, a gig of ram for a unibody that will get covered in a seidio case anyway. Camera is also subpar , but thats very subjective I think.
now I am paying the devil's advocate and tell you why should run and upgrade now :
1- I am assuming your knox is tripped, I feel like over night t-mobile will stop rejecting knox phones, so get your phone turned in before they do that. I still have an entire year before i pay off half my balance, during which I am praying for a knox reset method ( yeah i know its easier to establish a colony on Mars ) or I might have to throw it under my car
2- if you are into modding, and i believe that you are if you are on this forum, bear in mind that we are only satisfied when we mod our devices, we are not apple users. Sadly, i feel like android is taking the turn towards apple's philosophy in closed sourceness ( not a word , i know ) . I even said to my self, i dont need an unlocked bootloader and a root with my verizon note 3, its a beast and it gives me option to disable progs and with 3 gigs of ram it can withstand all the bloatware verizon throws at it. BIG mistake, hence why I am on t-mobile ( among other reasons ). We will never be satisfied with stock. So seriously consider Nexus devices ( since they are Jump eligible and I dont think modding them voids Jump but who knows , )
Right now as I see it, Sony, HTC , Samsung and even LG are all locked up and you are gambling staying stock till you are able to Jump yet again. Look at verizon's and ATT bootloaders , they are still locked, and all of our knoxes are tripped. I absolutely hate saying this but the difference in modding between Apple and Android is going to get very blurred. Can you imagine yourself with an iphone?
waw , end of rant ! thanks for the thread that finally let me vent, I hope the thread wont get moved to general
let us know you decision !!
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I definitely will. No worries about that. I've had a lot of people say get the HTC one since it has Dev edition. Which makes sense because it is basically the more improved nexus.
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What are you talking about, we've got: cm, carbon ROM, temasek, will03, team gummy, probably others that I'm missing. You've only got one phone, how much flashing do you actually do? But this phone beasts every phone out there as far looks and specs go
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What are you talking about, we've got: cm, carbon ROM, temasek, will03, team gummy, probably others that I'm missing. You've only got one phone, how much flashing do you actually do? But this phone beasts every phone out there as far looks and specs go
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Enough to know I have 2.
Besides, cm you can't even make phone calls from. And most of those you listed are cm based. The problem is that cm doesn't have active devs working on fixing the issues. We still don't have NFC, which plagues every ROM that is cm based. When the source isn't being worked on, how can you expect the rest to be any better? Really the best ROM out for the Note 3 is either carbon, if you like it, or stock KitKat. Pretty sad from what I see. Especially since I got this phone mainly for the development support and because it is so bad ass. But what good is that when you can't get consistent performance out of any of the roms, including stock.
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jmichaels1982 said:
I have been in this dilemma since leaving verizon 2 weeks ago, best decision ever btw!
S5 will also have knox, so even if we hacked the bootloader, form the look of things it will hinder your Jump program and warranty claims ( something I am pooping my pants over right now, and I am thinking of downgrading my Jump program to basic insurance )
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It won't.
I returned a Knox 0x1 Note 3 to T-Mobile under the basic manufacturer's warranty (I don't pay for insurance because I never, ever destroyed a phone in my life) and got a brand new replacement, no questions asked. Many others have reported success returning/trading in Knox 0x1 devices to T-Mobile as well; do a search.
The only things they care about are no physical damage, untripped liquid intrusion sticker, and that it turns on. T-Mobile's refurbisher resets the Knox flag back to 0x0 when they refurbish the phone anyway. Obviously, flash it back to unrooted stock and do a factory reset before you send it in.
Cost me a total of $20 for the T-Mobile warranty processing fee.
If you send it back straight to Samsung, though, they'll deny warranty service as BER (beyond economical repair). T-Mobile FTW.
This may help in your decision.
http://youtu.be/eZ5fl3cHsDY
I see your point
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It won't.
I returned a Knox 0x1 Note 3 to T-Mobile under the basic manufacturer's warranty (I don't pay for insurance because I never, ever destroyed a phone in my life) and got a brand new replacement, no questions asked. Many others have reported success returning/trading in Knox 0x1 devices to T-Mobile as well; do a search.
The only things they care about are no physical damage, untripped liquid intrusion sticker, and that it turns on. T-Mobile's refurbisher resets the Knox flag back to 0x0 when they refurbish the phone anyway. Obviously, flash it back to unrooted stock and do a factory reset before you send it in.
Cost me a total of $20 for the T-Mobile warranty processing fee.
If you send it back straight to Samsung, though, they'll deny warranty service as BER (beyond economical repair). T-Mobile FTW.
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Right that is the current situation. I am just afraid of the future since I am sure t-mobile will catch on to it with samsung denying claims for knox tripped phones. Hence my statement, go get a knox free phone that you can mod without fear of losing Jump in the future.
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I definitely will. No worries about that. I've had a lot of people say get the HTC one since it has Dev edition. Which makes sense because it is basically the more improved nexus.
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How do you Jump to a developer edition device ? I thought these are not offered on t-mobile Jump plans
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
I don't think anyone is excited about the locked boot loader.
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I don't think anyone is excited about the locked boot loader.
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I know that no one is "excited" about it, just wondering if for anyone else it is going to impact their purchasing decision as well. Again it was a big reason I got away from the iPhone myself.
I pulled the trigger a bit too early and got the AT&T Note 4 on release day and ended up taking it back 4 days later just because of the locked boot loader. Picking up a T-Mobile Note 4 tomorrow and using it on AT&T.
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
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YEP I am still on an international Note II. Until i know for sure which International Note 4 will work on ATT :LTE, there is no reason to switch devices for me. I don't have LTE now so I am not missing anything. Otherwise I will wait for the prices to drop and buy the ATT version and live with it. I won;t pay $800 for a locked device unless its unlocked and rootable and at this point works on ATT LTE. I am reading of some people with the 910C working in US ATT with LTE. But I am not convinced yet.
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YEP I am still on an international Note II. Until i know for sure which International Note 4 will work on ATT :LTE, there is no reason to switch devices for me. I don't have LTE now so I am not missing anything. Otherwise I will wait for the prices to drop and buy the ATT version and live with it. I won;t pay $800 for a locked device unless its unlocked and rootable and at this point works on ATT LTE. I am reading of some people with the 910C working in US ATT with LTE. But I am not convinced yet.
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I had an international note 1 before LTE was a big deal. Then I went with Tmobile for the note 3. Why not get what has been proven to work for the note 4 and get the 910T? You also have the option of switching carriers in the future and higher resale value here in the US. The international roms are ported over so you get the latest and greatest too.
I got a small discount for an ATT Note 4. I am on TMO and should have just paid the extra for the TMO version. Never doing this locked bootloader thing again. I just want root to restore full access to the microSD. Hopefully we'll get root before Lollipop...
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I got a small discount for an ATT Note 4. I am on TMO and should have just paid the extra for the TMO version. Never doing this locked bootloader thing again. I just want root to restore full access to the microSD. Hopefully we'll get root before Lollipop...
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Not being a negative Nancy, but I doubt root will happen anytime soon.
Just be honest all you guys are just Flashaholics and that's very addicted, I do understand your points i am a Developer for Roms , So for now The Note 4 i Got AT&T is running Amazing fast and i am in no hurry for root or a custom recovery if it even ever happens which i am sure it will, And of course i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted, If it happens then i'll start Developing Roms again for my Device NOTE 4 , But i am enjoying the phone just the way it is, So all of you's gonna have to wait, If not do like some are doing which isn't working 100% if traveling a lot on T-Mobile it will fail certain areas for AT&T Service!
Another Thing is this won't last forever as all phones are gonna keep getting locked on all Providers it will Happen to T-Mobile and International, Sooner or later in the future there's not gonna be any Root and unlocked phones, it will keep getting worst!
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Just be honest all you guys are just Flashaholics and that's very addicted, I do understand your points i am a Developer for Roms , So for now The Note 4 i Got AT&T is running Amazing fast and i am in no hurry for root or a custom recovery if it even ever happens which i am sure it will, And of course i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted, If it happens then i'll start Developing Roms again for my Device NOTE 4 , But i am enjoying the phone just the way it is, So all of you's gonna have to wait, If not do like some are doing which isn't working 100% if traveling a lot on T-Mobile it will fail certain areas for AT&T Service!
Another Thing is this won't last forever as all phones are gonna keep getting locked on all Providers it will Happen to T-Mobile and International, Sooner or later in the future there's not gonna be any Root and unlocked phones, it will keep getting worst!
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I disagree that some point in the future all phones will be locked. Baloney. At that point the community will shift and we will all own that limited edition CM phone that came out (my friend got one). Open source and Android filled a gap where there was one before. We supported them, and now that they are so big and popular they crack down. It's only a matter of time before another giant rises from the mist and we throw our support behind that. I am a flashaholic and there is nothing wrong with that. But I will also add there are performance issues with the note 4, my ram usage is 2 gb on boot, and without greenify so many of my apps are causing wake locks in the background.
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I disagree that some point in the future all phones will be locked. Baloney. At that point the community will shift and we will all own that limited edition CM phone that came out (my friend got one). Open source and Android filled a gap where there was one before. We supported them, and now that they are so big and popular they crack down. It's only a matter of time before another giant rises from the mist and we throw our support behind that. I am a flashaholic and there is nothing wrong with that. But I will also add there are performance issues with the note 4, my ram usage is 2 gb on boot, and without greenify so many of my apps are causing wake locks in the background.
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I understand my friend, i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted like i said i develope roms, and as of now i have no issues at all with my note 4 it's running at least 2.6 on ram from 3gb of ram and i haven't had one issue at all no lags what's so ever performance is excellent as it is right now.
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I understand my friend, i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted like i said i develope roms, and as of now i have no issues at all with my note 4 it's running at least 2.6 on ram from 3gb of ram and i haven't had one issue at all no lags what's so ever performance is excellent as it is right now.
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Oh ram use on mines shows 787 mb being used.
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That might be how much is free but no way that's how much is being used. I've even restored a couple times, it doesn't drop that low even disabling bloatware. I'd like to see a screen shot, and any info on how if possible you pulled thst miracle off?
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If not do like some are doing which isn't working 100% if traveling a lot on T-Mobile it will fail certain areas for AT&T Service!
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Really? I've been following this note 4 forum closely ever since it started and I haven't heard of the 910T "failing" in certain areas to get AT&T service. Can you cite any? I'd like to read them. I searched. I have heard nothing but good things and technically it should be 100% compatible except for LTE Advanced which is in a few cities and only for capacity. So normal LTE will work just as good/fast.
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Really? I've been following this note 4 forum closely ever since it started and I haven't heard of the 910T "failing" in certain areas to get AT&T service. Can you cite any? I'd like to read them. I searched. I have heard nothing but good things and technically it should be 100% compatible except for LTE Advanced which is in a few cities and only for capacity. So normal LTE should work just as good/fast.
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Look for some of my post can't link them since I'm at work but lots are having this issue.
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Look for some of my post can't link them since I'm at work but lots are having this issue.
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Ahhhhh, ok. I looked at your post history. I think you are a bit confused.
This post below by JasonJoel was referring to T-mobile service not the 910t on AT&T service.
"I can tell you from personal experience that if you go 10 miles outside of Austin you will have no data service with T-Mobile.
Heck I would lose data even staying on interstate going from Austin to Dallas. Let alone any back roads.
But whatever. If it works for you, then cool!"
And then your response talks about the 910t failing to get AT&T service. I think your friend must have had some settings wrong. Was this the N4 or N3?
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Ahhhhh, ok. I looked at your post history. I think you are a bit confused.
This post below by JasonJoel was referring to T-mobile service not the 910t on AT&T service.
"I can tell you from personal experience that if you go 10 miles outside of Austin you will have no data service with T-Mobile.
Heck I would lose data even staying on interstate going from Austin to Dallas. Let alone any back roads.
But whatever. If it works for you, then cool!"
And then your response talks about the 910t failing to get AT&T service. I think your friend must have had some settings wrong. Was this the N4 or N3?
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Was note 4 and all settings were correct, i checked myself and did some testing on his phone and same thing happens plus i am a Developer so i knew what i was looking for and checking.
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
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I got lucky I got them to trade my N4 for a Nexus 6 with a larger window because of the delay on the Nexus, so yeah I am bugging out this Gen and never looking back towards SAmmy again!
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I've owned nothing but Android Phablets going back to the Dell Streak. Then copped the Note 1, 2 and now this one. If there's at least no root within the next year, i'll seriously consider getting a Iphone 6 plus. I felt the whole purpose of Android was freedom of choice and customization. None of apps that were running on my Note 2 are worth a darn since Titanium Backup is useless w/o root. I relied pretty heavy on TB. Freezing apps, backups scheduled weekly.
Since i got this phone two weeks ago, I've had a couple of freezes after phone calls. A "little" lag but nothing too heavy. I'm not liking this at all for overall. Sad face!!!
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
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I had an international note 1 before LTE was a big deal. Then I went with Tmobile for the note 3. Why not get what has been proven to work for the note 4 and get the 910T? You also have the option of switching carriers in the future and higher resale value here in the US. The international roms are ported over so you get the latest and greatest too.
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That is exactly what I did. Bought on off Swappa slightly used rommed and rooted. $690. I have the unlock code coming and hope to use it on ATT by next week. I did not want to have to join T Mobile for a month. Swappa has a few of them available. :good:
If I like the specs and features of the next one, I will get that also.
Rooting is a luxury to me, not a necessity as it is for some.
My current phone is a Note 4. I've been a Sammy user since Galaxy was introduced (started with Captivate, as I"m on AT&T.)
So, interestingly, I"m not very happy with the Note 4:
AT&T issue - Not rootable. (I don't care any longer for custom ROMS, but miss some capabilities that root offers)
I have several little crazy issues, but 2 main ones are: Google voice prompt speaker whistles with feedback when first say 'OK Google' (Got a replacement and same issue on it); Can't get any app to consistently read texts over BT while driving.
I think the bloatware is causing some performance problems for me. I have disabled several and it did help.
I have a LOT of apps installed. Always have. Counting bloatware that may not be disabled, I have around 150.
Oh, also, I have lots of problems with Pandora on this phone. When the accessory is launched from my car, often it fails. When I play Pandora app, it often quits playing if it is not the front/active app. Very annoying.
If multitasking, it definitely has strong lags.
So I was thinking that the Note 5 would be my final phone for a while (actually thought that about this one). But I read that the 4GB is half used up on initial boot. So, I'm thinking I need to move to something less bloated. I don't have any confidence that the Note 5 would be rootable, I did have confidence that it would be eventually on the Note 4...but it's taking a long time.
Given my large app list, I'm thinking thatI should not settle for less than 4GB . Less bloat may help that issue...look at a pure Android experience maybe. (Of course chasing that via a custom ROM may be an alternative...but we know the status of that on the Note 4. Plus, in the past I've tried a lot of different ROMS, including popular 'stable' ones, and they ALL have bugs.)
I'm hoping to get something that works much better hands free. Haven't had much luck with that with any of my Android phones. I had much better luck with that way back when I was on Microsoft's phone OS, before Windows phone...with Microsoft's Voice Command.
Thinking of switching to Tmobile. Trade in the Note 4 for a Moto X style. Great specs for $399. It'll be easy to pay off. Service monthly payments will be cheaper then att.
But I've invested money in a gear vr and cases. Still deciding and looking at other devices.
Also most Samsung phones on Tmobile are or at most times get root.
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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Thinking of switching to Tmobile. Trade in the Note 4 for a Moto X style. Great specs for $399. It'll be easy to pay off. Service monthly payments will be cheaper then att.
But I've invested money in a gear vr and cases. Still deciding and looking at other devices.
Also most Samsung phones on Tmobile are or at most times get root.
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I actually considered purchasing a TMobile one when I got this one. Could still sell/change...but I've lost confidence in the Samsung brand working. I hear good things about the Moto phones. I'm considering the Pure...but given my penchant for a lot of apps (none of them games), I'm thinking I need 4 GB RAM.
I don't want to change to TMobile due to less coverage. I have considered moving to Verizon to bet better data speed in my area (St. Augustine, FL), but they would cost me more than AT&T, and I'm not sure I would get better data speeds.
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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Sounds pretty much for sure it won't have the SD. But even if it does, in my case, I'm just ready to move away from Samsung. Of course, I could find I have as much trouble getting what I want it to do with any of them.
I checked on the Moto site, and it says we can test for 14 days and return for free if not happy. I may just give that a whirl.
There is no expandable memory on the Note 5
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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I used the note 5, it's the same memory as the s6, you shouldn't be surprised. And you should have no hope for root or an unlock on any att or verizon phone. Seriously, you all know what to expect, but the phone from tmobile or the international version.
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There is no expandable memory on the Note 5
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Yup, as I said, that's what is being reported.
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I used the note 5, it's the same memory as the s6, you shouldn't be surprised. And you should have no hope for root or an unlock on any att or verizon phone. Seriously, you all know what to expect, but the phone from tmobile or the international version.
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No surprise to me. That's part of why I'm ditching Samsung. Maybe my posts haven't been quite clear about that though.
I got to see and hold the note 5, just confirming the reports of no expandable media.
The point of this thread is .... ?
I feel you big time. I also love big ole sammy, but bloat is a huge problem. I have been using the GS6 edge for the last week and I will say I love it. My note 4 is sooooo sssluuggish. Its gets frustrating. I also have a lot of app.s. Maybe that is the problem. I got this to be my everyday device. A phablet. But I am really leaning the direction of just having my nexus for reading/gaming and a phone for social. That has really been working for me this past week. The GS6 Edge is very snappy and the less bloat on these new phones help a lot. I aloso disabled a bunch and put on nova on and call me speedy gonzalez because I am flying.
Yep me too! My next phone will definitely have to be the One plus Two or Moto X 2015. It all depends on what I can get my hands on first. I love Samsung, but if I can't have my freedom on what I wanna do with my phone, there's no point of having an android version of an iPhone. Because if those were my only two options, iPhone would be my first choice. I choose Android because of Root, and customization. Not stupid Knox and carriers locking the bootloader crap. I wish I would've kept my jailbroken iPhone if I knew that were the case. So yeah definitely One plus Two, maybe Moto X if it's unlockable and rootable
Since some Notes are locked down and others not,shouldn't everyone's anger be placed on the carrier? Obviously AT&T and Verizon are the ones at fault. If you like the Note series buy unlocked or go for the guaranteed unlocked Nexus. I have both so when I want to mess around I have the Nexus and sometimes it's nice to trade off to the full featured Note. It really is the best way to go and keeps my anger to a minimum. I have to say with the Nexus you never have these back and forth games and you can do whatever you want without worrying about an update locking you out for the long term.
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The point of this thread is .... ?
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This is general discussion about att note 4. This is what op is doing. Please be more kind to people.
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I think the purpose is more obvious than your contribution to the thread.
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This is general discussion about att note 4. This is what op is doing. Please be more kind to people.
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Yup, generate discussion. I think it's been pretty successful at doing that.
May try T-Mobile Note 4 - Root...
Before I abandon Samsung, I may try abandoning the AT&T version of the Note 4.
I haven't been interested in putting on ROMS (did that a lot on previous phones, and I find even for those that are touted as 'solid', there are always one bug or another), but maybe that is what I should do. Been reading on various ROMS over on the T-Mobile forum.
So, if I do this, next I need to decide whether to abandon TW (I do like some of the features...), then if not, whether to install a KitKat or LP ROM. I may try one or both of those options, then if not happy, try AOSP.
Then if not happy, maybe by then there will be reviews out on others I'm considering...although the Nexus has to arrive. From what I'm seeing, it'll be October before that gets out.
My anger is with ATT for being locked down and even more so Samsung. Their greed is borderline criminal IMHO. There is absolutely no reason why the Note 4 and Edge cannot have the updated Touchwiz. Wish I had stuck with my Nexus 6, but only gave up on it because it didn't take advantage of the big screen and Android M took care of that. Been trying to trade my Edge for a G4 or N6 for weeks now.
Still seriously confused why some st**id carriers locked down phones? Should have make some research before trading my trustworthy Note 3 for Note 4 at&t. I don't see this device having unlocked bootloader soon G4 callling
I had faith they would break it and be able to root it. Seems that the developers for Samsung or AT&T is finally getting ahead of our developers and winning that battle.
I no longer have faith the AT&T will get rooted.
In fact, it's starting to feel like the leanings are headed to no root more and more.
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I had faith they would break it and be able to root it. Seems that the developers for Samsung or AT&T is finally getting ahead of our developers and winning that battle.
I no longer have faith the AT&T will get rooted.
In fact, it's starting to feel like the leanings are headed to no root more and more.
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Lol also 2nd ur opinion. I gave up on this phone been root able, deal is the phone is fast still so I don't have the need to root lol but I do have a gear s from att?which I would like to one day install a Droid port but sucks is att and locked. Stupid carrier
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Still seriously confused why some st**id carriers locked down phones? Should have make some research before trading my trustworthy Note 3 for Note 4 at&t. I don't see this device having unlocked bootloader soon G4 callling
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The locking of bootloaders is to exponentially increase security in order to gain military, government and corporate contracts...which they did. Verizon and AT&T Samsung devices were rated highest in security in today's market. T-Mobile and Sprint chose not to most likely because they do not have the coverage country-wide to encourage those sales.
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
Looks like the Note 3 will be my last Samsung phone
glad I left too..
Had no desire to root my note 4, and have no desire to root the 5. Besides for some bloat (that can mostly be disabled), I don't see a need for it.
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I won't buy a phone that cant' be rooted. I refuse to go back to having ads on the internet and deal with the samsung bloat.
Root, at least for the latest Generation of phones, in my personal opinion is a bit over rated. The phones run quite nicely, granted not the biggest fan of seeing Ads and the phones bloatware which I would love to strip out so I could recover some space. Still not the biggest deal breaker considering how well it works.
so, if your ATT was able to be rooted, are you saying you would not root it?
Package Disabler Pro app on Play Store will allow you to disable most apps and services.
Disabling the apps isn't the same as actually deleteing them. We all know that with root, when you debloat, the phone runs even smoother, more freed RAM and faster start ups. I hate not having root. I can live without an unlocked bootloader and having custom Kernels and ROMs but root is a need for me. I have so many root apps, xposed is always nice, Lucky Patcher is fun to have, DPI change is amazing for these big, high PPI displays and the main reason, debloat.
I'm sure the devs will figure something out. I have faith in them.
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http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
Looks like the Note 3 will be my last Samsung phone
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I agree. Will be taking this one off the list of phones I might upgrade to. Due to trade in my g3. Shopping now. I think I should just wait and see the new nexus devices.
the note 4 on ATT is still unrootable....
Android is becoming the same as the iPhone cat and mouse game. People are afraid and want more secure phones so carriers are locking stuff down. I'm all for unlocked devices, in fact I still have my Nexus 6 also but I can only imagine how many devices a carrier or manufacturer get returned because someone that doesn't know what they are doing is returned. We see it all day long on xda. Get a Nexus and swap between a locked phone when you want stable. If you feel like messing around hack your Nexus.
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"Android" is becoming like Apple? Google/Android does nothing to lock down the phones. That is the manufactuers and more importantly carriers that request it. You want someone to blame for this? Blame AT&T. Even Samsung phones with Knox are rootable out of the box, it just throws a permanent flag so that they know if you try to warranty it. The carriers are to blame for the phones being locked down and no one else.
This will be the worst forum for a phone yet!
Anyone thought about putting up a bounty? I could care less about a custom recovery but I REALLY miss root. Enough to put a few bucks into a pot for anyone who figures it out.
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Anyone thought about putting up a bounty? I could care less about a custom recovery but I REALLY miss root. Enough to put a few bucks into a pot for anyone who figures it out.
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From what I understand we need firmware first with the "anti-root" buzzing around the phone would be disabled tell it came out making it almost pointless to try tell then. I got dm-variety verification failed and my phone wouldn't turn on just from a failed and upload from the sdk.
Such a useless thread.
Don't want it. Don't buy it.
Go fish for a one plus invite .
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This will be the worst forum for a phone yet!
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Nope the AT&T Note 4 forum has this beat....for now.
They have had a year to get it that way... Give this one some more time for the butthurt to settle in.
It is amazing how many tasker tasks I had that needed root... Oh well, it does have a nice camera...
I bought a international version in gold and couldn't be happier, no lock crap on it, flies on cricket which as we know is AT&T
Bought this phone. Now I am sad because no root. Maybe switch it with a LG G4.
I find it so mind boggling that after checking these forums daily since the phone was released there is still no (permanent) root for this phone. Am I wrong for thinking this? With all the brains and experience out there you would think something would have happened by now. I seriously think there is a permanent root solution out there and it's being kept a secret from the rest of us. Sorry for ranting, I have no one else to explain my frustration to besides the people here. Have a nice day.
I hear ya, which is why I am going to sell my Note4 and get another phone. No more Samsung Android phones for me unless i change to T-Mobile which will never happen due to lack of reception at my house.
I'm switching to T-Mobile and sticking with LG once this contract is up, at&t and Samsung can go fly a kite.
You could sell yours and get an unlocked t-mobile version. I am frustrated too, but the only solution at this point is to be proactive. Peace!
Yeah I'm not doing a Samsung phone again.. sure it may have the best screen and what not, but I'll gladly take up to date android OS/root/recovery over that. You could sell your note 4 for about 350, then ebay a t-mobile version, or put in another 100 and get the new nexus or moto x pure
Yeah I'll see what T-Mobile can do for me to switch, I've read they will pay up to $300 for your phone and up to $350 for early termination fees in the form of a credit if you switch, Not too bad of a deal. AT&T if you're reading this, double middle fingers to you assholes.
Hate to add to the same type of replies however I can't agree more with all of you. Not just about root either. Updates come to us so slow and this device has always had slightly more lag then my s4. Pretty sure i'm either going straight to the source with the Nexus line or switching over to iOS. I'll miss the spen but at least the current Nexus phone has AMOLED.
I am with ya too. Once my contract on my At&t Note 4 is up in 2017. I am thinking about switching to whatever Nexus device is out, or a budge device like the OnePlus or Moto G, so I could root it or customize it as I choose.
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Anyone going to try Google FI? Or any phone recommendations?
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Anyone going to try Google FI? Or any phone recommendations?
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It's probably going to be so limited to a few major cities for quite a long time. If the price makes sense and the quality is there then absolutely. Building an entire mobile network that is capable of reaching 99% of the country is extremely expensive and time consuming. The 4 major carriers have been working on it for 20 years and they are still building towers like crazy.
As for phone recommendations, I recommend looking at all the variables in the equation and make your decision accordingly. For me, checking to see if root has any progress or is already available is at the top of my list, followed by the device itself. To sum it up, some phones aren't very practical (nexus 6) but they excel in **** that matters to me (first to get system updates and easily rootable).
Thanks!
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It's probably going to be so limited to a few major cities for quite a long time. If the price makes sense and the quality is there then absolutely. Building an entire mobile network that is capable of reaching 99% of the country is extremely expensive and time consuming. The 4 major carriers have been working on it for 20 years and they are still building towers like crazy.
As for phone recommendations, I recommend looking at all the variables in the equation and make your decision accordingly. For me, checking to see if root has any progress or is already available is at the top of my list, followed by the device itself. To sum it up, some phones aren't very practical (nexus 6) but they excel in **** that matters to me (first to get system updates and easily rootable).
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I will never get sucked into the samsung hype ever again. This phone has generally received good reviews since day one, and I honestly have hated it since the day I obtained it. I had an S4 before this note 4, and I have to say that I hated that phone too. The hardware is awesome, and the software is sub-par bull poo poo. Every samsung phone I have ever had has had problems. Namely with the GPS, among other things, but I think any problem I have ever had with a samsung phone could have been solved with custom firmware. I know this is as much, or more so, a carrier issue as well as a manufacturer issue. The manufacturer puts crap software on the device, then the carrier locks it down so that you are stuck with it. The note 5 looks flashy as hell, but I will not get sucked in again! C'mon Nexus!!
Isn't the Note 5 already rooted with working TWRP? I don't understand how that phone could be rooted so fast and the Note4 will never be.
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Isn't the Note 5 already rooted with working TWRP? I don't understand how that phone could be rooted so fast and the Note4 will never be.
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That is the t-mobile, sprint, international versions; all have an unlocked bootloader. The Verizon and att versions have a locked bootloader with a sha-256 key. If you read the att version does not boot if tried to root.
Even without perma-root (or root at all for those on LP like myself), this is still a darn good phone. Shame I can't use my gamepad properly, but at least I've only a year left before I can go for something else. Honestly, even with a chance of never getting root, I'd still get a Note 6 (when that comes, I mean).
That new nexus 6p is where I'm heading. Samsung really screwed us :/. On my note 2 I ran pure stock android because it's smooth as hell! I have to be stuck with Samsung's nonsense running the background with the note 4... Can't wait for the nexus 6p to drop. I'll be first in line!
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That new nexus 6p is where I'm heading. Samsung really screwed us :/. On my note 2 I ran pure stock android because it's smooth as hell! I have to be stuck with Samsung's nonsense running the background with the note 4... Can't wait for the nexus 6p to drop. I'll be first in line!
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Not Samsung, AT&T and Verizon are who is screwing you. They made the choice to lock everything down for more profits.
I finally gave up and sold my AT&T Note 4 for a T-Mobile variant. The difference is night and day, I was having severe battery drain, and normally would be <20% by the end of the day today, for the first time I haven't had to charge my phone overnight, and the battery is still at 65%. It drained 1% overnight for 8 hours.
Custom ROM and Kernels make a HUGE difference. Now I don't have to keep power saving mode on, which also increased lag and I can actually go a day without having to charge my phone and I get all the other benefits of root. Definitely will not buy another Samsung phone with a locked bootloader, I was getting ready to switch to an iPhone because I was so unhappy with the Note 4 performance and battery life.
I am on the ATT next program. Do I have to pay off phone before I sell it?
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Not Samsung, AT&T and Verizon are who is screwing you. They made the choice to lock everything down for more profits.
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What I meant to say was. Samsung also screwed us with the note 5.. They let their customers know they are headed into the iLame direction. I left apple after 4 years because it lacked tons of features. I'm assuming Samsung will drop the s pen on the note 6 and turn it into a $99 Samsung Pencil that you will have to buy on the side by the looks of it hahaha.
Anyone planning to switch to S8 when it's available? I am mainly comtemplating it because of the big screen. My main concern however is the build quality. What are your thoughts?
Lower screen to body ratio = more screen to break.
And KNOX = no sale.
Nah, Samsung pushed too far, like Xiaomi MIX. Good to look but hard to bring it in daily life because you have to be very careful all the time.
For sure not. Perhaps the OP 5 or the HTC 11. And if they don't convince me, I'll stay at the 10 for sure :good:
Depends on whether you like development? It's not like Samsung has exactly been friendly towards that. Biggest deciding factor for me anyway.
I'm finding it harder and harder to justify purchasing new phones when there is no real-world difference. I'm perfectly fine with my 10, why should I even "upgrade" when it won't really change anything? I also decided a long time ago to never purchase a Samsung device again and I have no reason to change that, but as far as other brands are concerned my initial comment still stands.
I'm pretty sure it'll be an amazing phone in terms of hardware, however the software will probably hurt the experience as always.
I've been thinking in switching because the random stutters, jank and ****ty wifi of the HTC 10 have made me hate the thing. The S8 will probably also stutter so meh.
HTC 10 and all snapdragon 820 phones are perfectly fine with the performance, and offered a big upgrade from the 810. Camera quality has also reached a stage where companies are offering fine improvements (mainly in low light).
Some other specs (particularly RAM) have hit the limit of what the software can manage or need. It's now about keeping more apps in the background. Overkill.
I guess that upgrading a phone every year is no longer a feasible and wise option, unless someone wipes his butt with money.
Sure the new hardware will be stunning, but coming from an HTC, the Samsung software will be difficult to swallow. Better wait for the HTC 11 until you make a decision.
It'll be a great phone I'm sure, plus the bezel less screen is definitely a plus..Sammy has to get the S8 right to make up for the cluster **** they did with the note.
I've always updated yearly however I think this may be the first time I don't, people do say that Sammy development is lacking but the development for my favourite Sammy phone S5 was brilliant it had everything, but I found myself always looking over the fence at HTC, theres just something about their devices.
If anything I'll wait for the 11 , but to be honest, the 10 is a beast and with a little love and tweaking there's nothing to gain besides skin deep changes.
Short answer ! Nah I'll skip it although I am curious to see what it's like.
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No.
I had the S2, Galaxy Nexus, and S3. But when they announced the introduction of Knox on the S4, that was the end of them for me.
And they keep trying to make it harder to root so that you can't uninstall the Samsung bloatware.
No thank you. Never Samsung again.
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Sure the new hardware will be stunning, but coming from an HTC, the Samsung software will be difficult to swallow. Better wait for the HTC 11 until you make a decision.
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Pretty much how I feel. Regardless of how much effort is put into the hardware, I just know it will all be ruined by their software.
I'm not switching to the S8. Not a fan at all of Samung's software and Boomsound is just too good to give up.
Thanks for everyone's reply. Seems like software limitation is the main concern here. My only samsung phone was the S2 and I'm not well aware of KNOX. what is its shortcoming? Is development really lagging for the galaxys? That's hard to believe given that the galaxys are so popular worldwide.
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that. I have no plans to stay on touchwiz. Would KNOX and the lack of development really hinder that? How about warranty? will disabling KNOX void warranty?
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I'm not switching to the S8. Not a fan at all of Samung's software and Boomsound is just too good to give up.
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I would love to use boomsound but bluetooth is just too convenient for me to go back to wired headphones =[
My 10 has been paid in full for a while and atm I am with T-Mobile and have JOD so it's not much of a switch rather than another addition but, yes I'll definitely check it out.
I will just say no to all phone with edge which is pointless and make it very different to read text and use onscreen keyboard. I judge by using mywife s7 edge and 3 weeks with note 7.
I will mostly go back to pixel if it have OIS, but anyway, I don't see the need to replace the HTC 10 right now, although the firmware, nfc, wifi, lack of rgb led disappoint me.
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Thanks for everyone's reply. Seems like software limitation is the main concern here. My only samsung phone was the S2 and I'm not well aware of KNOX. what is its shortcoming? Is development really lagging for the galaxys? That's hard to believe given that the galaxys are so popular worldwide.
If I do get the S8, I'm planning to go straight to rooting, install AOSP/lineageOS, magisk/xposed(hopefully it will be available by then), and use the phone just like that. I have no plans to stay on touchwiz. Would KNOX and the lack of development really hinder that? How about warranty? will disabling KNOX void warranty?
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If you want a phone with a combination of above average official firmware support, good camera, nice screen, then galaxy and note are a good one, it give ppl most of the thing they want and no so much bug/design fault. Can't say about oneplus as I don't have any.
Any mod to the galaxy will trap the flag and void warranty. Oneplus, Pixel and HTC (with sunshine) may be still the most root friendly.
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Well it won't be as easy as that. With the S7, it took 4 months or so before a root exploit was even found. http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...e-with-snapdragon-820-successfully-rooted.htm (released in March, rooted in June)
There was even a bounty put out for whoever could find a way to get root for the AT&T version. https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s7/how-to/bounty-att-s7-root-exploit-t3341274
The S6 was a hard one to root as well.
As an owner of HTC 10 I bought a Galaxy S8 Plus. The first day I was very happy with the decision. Then the problem started. Random reboots like many people are suffering and no solutions nor statement from Samsung.
If anyone like me is thinking to change an HTC to Samsung think twice. I returned that piece of sh**t and HTC U11 here I go. Sad as a design the Galaxy S8 is the most beautiful piece of smartphone but not all is beauty, isn't.
Jadraker said:
As an owner of HTC 10 I bought a Galaxy S8 Plus. The first day I was very happy with the decision. Then the problem started. Random reboots like many people are suffering and no solutions nor statement from Samsung.
If anyone like me is thinking to change an HTC to Samsung think twice. I returned that piece of sh**t and HTC U11 here I go. Sad as a design the Galaxy S8 is the most beautiful piece of smartphone but not all is beauty, isn't.
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If I ever switch to some other smartphone company, it will be Apple...
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