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[Q] opinion needed thinking of selling it already..

Need help guys these niggles are starting to bother me...
1.the heat problem when playing games for longer than 5 mins is stupid its even worse when you turn off the auto turn down brightness restriction off..super gets hot...if you dont play games its fine general browsing etc
2.the warm colour effects are not right colours look washed out at times..
3.battery barely lasts a day which i think is linked to heat problem..cpu working at 1 million miles per hour lol.
4.qhd tech makes either games look horrible or look ok or dont exists on the playstore (device not compatible) or some games simply crash
I love the looks, the feel, and operation
Im an occasional user, dont play games for long, great phone
But my question is will firmwares fix these problems?? Or is it the fact if we dont play games. And put up with rest its fine??

It's a new device so in my opinion you should wait for firmware updates rather than selling it now.

zi0m3k said:
It's a new device so in my opinion you should wait for firmware updates rather than selling it now.
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I know but 801 chip i feel isnt really designed for qhd..where the rumored prime has 805..so lg had to make sacrifices to make it all work how it should.
It puzzles me how LG allowed a phone to come out with issues that in many cases isnt minor the heat issue especially..and compensate they turn the brightness down turning tge restriction off on the hidden simply fries when you are playing any games
I hope LG has magic up there sleeves i do..

Sell it... to me for $10.

If you don't like it, sell it
Personally I don't have any of the issues you're mentioning, extra heat is no big deal in my opinion, and I play games a lot.... Battery time is good for me, around 4h to 4h30 screen-on time, better than my tweaked S4 was.
In fact the only issue I have with the phone currently is the size, I still find it a little too big for my hands, but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually
For your question, firmware fixes will probably make a little bit of a difference for battery / heating, but you're likely to have better results with custom kernel, when they become available (I'd say we still have a couple of weeks to wait before we see some serious development happening on the G3).

nobnut said:
Sell it... to me for $10.
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Deal at $11? Lol

Protagoras said:
If you don't like it, sell it
Personally I don't have any of the issues you're mentioning, extra heat is no big deal in my opinion, and I play games a lot.... Battery time is good for me, around 4h to 4h30 screen-on time, better than my tweaked S4 was.
In fact the only issue I have with the phone currently is the size, I still find it a little too big for my hands, but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually
For your question, firmware fixes will probably make a little bit of a difference for battery / heating, but you're likely to have better results with custom kernel, when they become available (I'd say we still have a couple of weeks to wait before we see some serious development happening on the G3).
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I think will wait but the niggles of 805 chip is knocking on the door is bothering me a little...and toast effect when playing games

I must admit, I'm contemplating selling mine too though I don't really have any of the problems you mention. Just not feeling it for some reason. I have backlight bleed all the way round but, again, it doesn't bother me much.
I'm thinking about the galaxy prime (or F). Ideally something with a 5.2inch amoled screen (1080p would do) with slim bezel and metal back, removable battery, sd-card slot...
The Xiaomi mi3 looks nice if the spec was upped a bit
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In the meantime I've ordered a case and car cradle. I'll give it a week or so, I just thought for the money, I'd be more excited
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jetsetwilly said:
I must admit, I'm contemplating selling mine too though I don't really have any of the problems you mention. Just not feeling it for some reason. I have backlight bleed all the way round but, again, it doesn't bother me much.
I'm thinking about the galaxy prime (or F). Ideally something with a 5.2inch amoled screen (1080p would do) with slim bezel and metal back, removable battery, sd-card slot...
The Xiaomi mi3 looks nice if the spec was upped a bit
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In the meantime I've ordered a case and car cradle. I'll give it a week or so, I just thought for the money, I'd be more excited
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Yep same here you expect to have god in the palm of your hands and you don't I'm thinking about the prime as well funnily enough,,,,that excites me more than what I have and the thing isn't confirmed if its real yet and plus it will have a smaller screen...I like the lg g3 size its nice...
Yes a few more weeks...hopefully devs we pick up the pace with custom roms etc,,,

I have always had the reasoning, soon as you doubt something and want to sell it. Do so, otherwise you'll be looking for niggles and you'll find them and then it'll just annoy you until you sell it on.
Ultimately only you can decide, but if you're already doubting it. Get shot now while you can and won't lose any money.

radicalisto said:
I have always had the reasoning, soon as you doubt something and want to sell it. Do so, otherwise you'll be looking for niggles and you'll find them and then it'll just annoy you until you sell it on.
Ultimately only you can decide, but if you're already doubting it. Get shot now while you can and won't lose any money.
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Wow that's a good thing to say...you are right in what you say....still don't know now lol..

Theguru1 said:
Wow that's a good thing to say...you are right in what you say....still don't know now lol..
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Hi Guys...
Well its on ebay now...I just wasn't feeling it...
Good luck guys, hope all works out LG fix the kinks and the devs flood the gates with custom roms etc..

I am in the same boat as you. Think about selling or returning it everyday but the issue is I am on AT&T. If I return it then I don't see any other viable option. Not interested in S5 ( no more Samsung), can't stand the black bar on M8 and obviously a big no for microscopic iPhone. So I would have to sell it. So for the time being I am just using it carefully and if I don't see any unlocking for bootloader I will sell it in a month and go back to using my N5.

Returning mine to cpw for a refund even tho I've had for a month there willing to refund me

just sell it and get an iphone

no one listened to me :silly: lg g3 not ready for prime time :silly: but i guess i am just crazy returned mine the 2nd day

daddioj said:
no one listened to me :silly: lg g3 not ready for prime time :silly: but i guess i am just crazy returned mine the 2nd day
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lol funny that's what people said about the LG G Pad too,,, until roms and firmware came out for it....My only gripe with the G3 is I'm not rooted yet as there is not one for the sprint version, but I know its coming

jionny said:
lol funny that's what people said about the LG G Pad too,,, until roms and firmware came out for it....My only gripe with the G3 is I'm not rooted yet as there is not one for the sprint version, but I know its coming
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well here's my logic. the moment you need Roms and root to fix a out of the box experience its going back. :good: sometimes its nice to buy a phone and just use it. but yes this is XDA so go ahead throw rocks at me

I played with one at a store the other day and was not impressed. It definitely looks and feels nicer than the G2 (I owned) but I saw so much lag I couldn't believe it.
If LG sold that as a Nexus I'd sell my Nexus 5 in a split second. They've come much farther with their UI than the G2 (hated that UI with a passion) but it's still clunky.
There is NO reason lag should be present on a 2014 flagship phone with 3GB of RAM. No excuse other than pooey software.

1ManWolfePack said:
I played with one at a store the other day and was not impressed. It definitely looks and feels nicer than the G2 (I owned) but I saw so much lag I couldn't believe it.
If LG sold that as a Nexus I'd sell my Nexus 5 in a split second. They've come much farther with their UI than the G2 (hated that UI with a passion) but it's still clunky.
There is NO reason lag should be present on a 2014 flagship phone with 3GB of RAM. No excuse other than pooey software.
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point blank 2k screen. 801 and adreno 330. dont care what anyone says. same thing applies to a pc when pushing more pixels

Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards

My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.

A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?

Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.

510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?

DawarAzhar said:
What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?

I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.

DawarAzhar said:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.

G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides

Quickdraw996 said:
If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though

Good Son 5 said:
Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.

Quickdraw996 said:
I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.

Good Son 5 said:
Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

G5S plus..

Anyone else a little annoyed they're releasing a new version already with dual camera for almost the same price that the standard plus released with? I know it's still basically the same phone with a slightly larger screen and improved? Camera. But I'm definitely a little peeved

Yup it is a little annoying but Lenovo seem hell bent on having more models in the market than anyone else.

I am also a little annoyed by it. Planned obsoleteness at it's finest.

joshk89 said:
Anyone else a little annoyed they're releasing a new version already with dual camera for almost the same price that the standard plus released with? I know it's still basically the same phone with a slightly larger screen and improved? Camera. But I'm definitely a little peeved
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Nope. As with many things electronics if you wait a day, week, month, year, something better will come along. One can either choose to wait and wait for the newest best thing and never buy anything, or they can buy now and not worry about it. As with many things as new products are introduced existing products are reduced in price (or discontinued).
The rumored specs of the soon to be released new Moto phones have been circulating for a few months now. One could have waited to buy the new phone if they wanted. <shrugs>
My only concern with Moto introducing so many different models of phones is their support (firmware updates, bug fixes) for all phones will suffer. In typical Motorola fashion, the updates/fixes for the Moto G5 Plus are already lagging months behind.

itslels said:
I am also a little annoyed by it. Planned obsoleteness at it's finest.
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This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.

bennor3814 said:
Nope. As with many things electronics if you wait a day, week, month, year, something better will come along.
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I cant think of another handset being superseded after only 5 months, 12 months you can understand but 5 is taking the micky.
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This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
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No it just leave you with an inferior product that you paid around the same for.

username8611 said:
This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
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Yeah, the thing is, it still kinda is. They know people want the newest, best stuff. No reason that the G5 plus couldn't of had these little extra features they've added to the G5S. But this way, they get even more money out of people because they know they will buy it.

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I cant think of another handset being superseded after only 5 months, 12 months you can understand but 5 is taking the micky.
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No it just leave you with an inferior product that you paid around the same for.
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Yeah, the thing is, it still kinda is. They know people want the newest, best stuff. No reason that the G5 plus couldn't of had these little extra features they've added to the G5S. But this way, they get even more money out of people because they know they will buy it.
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No, it isn't. The device still has the same specs. Just because something came out with the same price and slightly higher specs doesn't mean our phones have been downgraded. It doesn't change the performance of the phone. What they ARE doing, however, is taking advantage of people's lack of self control and tech addictions. They can come out with a SD835, 6GB RAM model tomorrow for $50 less than what I paid for my G5 plus and I wouldn't care the slightest bit. I love my devices and I love technology, but if you always have to have the absolute best technology or absolute best deal at all points in time, you will never be happy and will constantly complain when technology moves forwards and you failed to predict the next item being released.

Not really, we all knew what we got when we bought this phone. Its not an powerhouse, it doesn't have the best camera, its just a good decent phone. If they slapped the Lenovo tag on it it wouldn't be such a big deal.
It's still a good phone that you can easily use for 2 years. Plus the specs are nearly the same so I am guessing the software is going to be pretty close together too. If they just keep rolling out updates I really don't see the problem.

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No, it isn't. The device still has the same specs. Just because something came out with the same price and slightly higher specs doesn't mean our phones have been downgraded.
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If it was the same spec it would be called the Moto G5 Plus, clearly there are differences to make it yet another model.

So then, bigger screen, better camera(s) full metal body and the same price as what the G5 Plus was.
We've been shafted lads and lasses.

MrBelter said:
So then, bigger screen, better camera(s) full metal body and the same price as what the G5 Plus was.
We've been shafted lads and lasses.
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Welcome to the world to the world of technology.
You can always sell your G5 Plus and buy the G5S Plus, no big deal

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Welcome to the world to the world of technology.
You can always sell your G5 Plus and buy the G5S Plus, no big deal
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You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.

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You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
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Oneplus did, Samsung did, HTC did. 6 months is long in the world of tech, sometimes in a couple weeks something better is out

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You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
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6 months is a very long time in the tech world. Most flagship device at least comes down one third in price in 6 months. In comparison I have to say that g5 retained some good value.
Moreover I am not seeing it as a big update either.
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No not really... This phone works fine and it'll continue working fine even when that new model comes out.

In my opinion it's not a replacement of the g5 plus but it's a different phone in the same lineup. For example I haven't considered the g5 plus because of the screen that is too small for me, but I'm definitely considering to buy this one.
I'm just waiting to see how the g5s plus performs in real life and how much community support it will have.

Sorry to resuscitate such an old thread but I was just wondering how hard it would be to port a ROM over for the g5s+ or if there might be Dev support for it. The specs look EXACTLY the same except for the better camera and bigger display. If there will be Dev support I might be interested in buying one as they're on sale for the holidays.

Why do people say the S plus is a better camera?
Just because it has two doesn't make it better.

eemgee said:
Why do people say the S plus is a better camera?
Just because it has two doesn't make it better.
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Right! From all reports I've seen, the G5S+ camera does not perform well. However, I understand the camera 2 api is enabled on that device, so I'm very annoyed that it's not on the G5+. But in hardware terms, the G5S+ is a big yawn, for me.
As far as I'm concerned dual cameras are nothing but a gimmick, in most cases. There are a few implementations that work well, but most are hit or miss. Coupled with a screen that's larger than I want, it all adds up to an unappealing package. Obviously, others' mileage varies.

What is your next phone?

Very frustrated with the all-too-frequent need to go into Android Auto and reset everything just to get mapping to work, and not having the phone dialer integration working, and so on... Not to mention this monitoring program running in the background that nobody seems to know for sure what it is doing, what it is sending and to where it might be sending things....
So, after initially being happy with the phone, it has turned sour, and I'm looking to move to something lese, but not ready to pay a small fortune for it. What are you all considering for your next phone purchase? Probably not Huawei/Honor....

I loved the 6X, but my relationship with the 7X was sour out of the box. Maybe I was being too harsh but it really should have launched with oreo and came with USB type C. Aside from a hardware issue I had with my particular device, all the issues I had with the software have supposedly been fixed with the oreo beta. So I ordered it again and will have to definitely give it another shot because I did like the phone, it's hard to beat especially for $200. I know a lot of others will say the MI A1 is better, but not having a US based service center sucks. And I couldn't wait for Motorola to announce the G6 series. After my tenure with the 7X though, I plan to spend a little more and see what else Honor/Huawei has to offer. As long as they continue to sell the devices in the US on Amazon. With Best Buy dropping Huawei, who knows if they'll continue to make phones for the US market.

The Good..The Bad..The Ugly
Quite The Polarizing Device.. This 7x..
It looks so cool..
It was thought to be the "Next Big Thing" here at XDA.
But.. It never panned out that way.
It's compelled it's owners to throw caution to the wind.. root and brick there devices like there's no tomorrow..
with no clear cut way to recover it.
Quality Control is not the best.. either you get one that works perfectly (yeay! I did) or you get one with dimming
issues.. lagging issues.. touch registration issues.. heat issues etc.
But.. for a Stock device that had none of the issues mentioned, it's without question.. the best $199.00 your cellular
dollar can buy.
That is.. IF YOU DON'T MIND BEING MONITORED BY PARENT COMPANY HUAWEI.. (see pic)
Glad I Don't Bank On My Device.
The International Samsung Galaxy S10 will be my next device April of 2019
Until then my completely stock perfectly working Honor 7x will do just fine.

I'm brand new (just a few days) to the Mate SE. Love the phone... so far (will be checking for monitor app running soon). But would Huawei be that stupid? to be under suspicion by the authorities, and then have a snooping app obviously running and call it 'monitor'?
Possible I guess, but wow, hard to imagine. Was disappointed to read today that BB will no longer be carrying Huawei phones. I'm hoping to get the M5 tablet, maybe Amazon or last resort their usa website.
They sell phones all around the world, they are very popular. Is there ** any ** factual evidence of nefarious behavior?

Returned mine. Imonitor spyware ran continuously.
Also their support app requires access to your contacts and phone.
Don't think so Huawei.

First time experience with honor it's not so good as I'm expected. My next mob will be form one plus... ?

Huawei Won't Hurt You...
AsItLies said:
I'm brand new... Huawei under suspicion by the authorities, and have a snooping app running and call it 'monitor'? wow, BB will no longer be carrying Huawei phones.
Is there ** any ** factual evidence of nefarious behavior?
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Yes.
Settings > Developer Options > Running Services
Congratulations!
You've just stumbled upon your own personnal Spyware!
Ain't Life In 2018 Just Grand!
And... NO! of course Huawei is not doing any Nefarious with your personal info.. They just want to....eh.. well..?
Monitor your device's Tempeture !

Oh if only I was as smart as you!
Of course *monitor* means it's monitoring you! Of course!
I'm going to create an app to steal your personal data, and call it *steal-your-personal-data*!
Who would possibly guess?
Run this app: (specifically for data loss to China)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trustlook.antivirus
RaiderWill said:
Yes.
Settings > Developer Options > Running Services
Congratulations!
You've just stumbled upon your own personnal Spyware!
Ain't Life In 2018 Just Grand!
And... NO! of course Huawei is not doing any Nefarious with your personal info.. They just want to....eh.. well..?
Monitor your device's Tempeture !
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It's Not Your Fault...
AsItLies said:
Oh if only I was as smart as you!
I'm going to steal your personal data specifically for China
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Of Course You're Not As Smart As Me...
But That's Ok.
I'll help you just like I've helped so many others.

RaiderWill said:
Of Course You're Not As Smart As Me...
But That's Ok.
I'll help you just like I've helped so many others.
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Oh and yer so nice too! Wow, people must hang on your every word! Or maybe they just laugh and think 'loser'... I don't know...

Hang In There...
AsItLies said:
Oh and yer so nice too! Wow, people must hang on your every word!...
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Why Yes...... They Do.
THANK YOU... For your Acknowledgement of that Fact.
I offer an Informative and Insightful view of all things Honor 7X.
Glad I've Captured your attention now as well !
Welcome To My World. :angel:

RaiderWill said:
Why Yes...... They Do.
THANK YOU... For your Acknowledgement of that Fact.
I offer an Informative and Insightful view of all things Honor 7X.
Glad I've Captured your attention now as well !
Welcome To My World. :angel:
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Oh you're very welcome! and yer about to capture my ignore button too! but I'm sure with your attitude, you've done that before also

I'll Monitor Your Progress...
It's Ok... I'm Respected Here...
And when you get more than 79 post... maybe a little closer to 790 posts.. and learn the ability to help people.. Instead Of Attack People...
And start to get Thanks for your support here on XDA...
Like I Have In More Than Half Of Every Post I've Written In The Last 5 Years... :angel:
Maybe just maybe.. we can continue this conversation that you want to have with "Me" Raiderwill.
I'll determine if you worthy of the privilege of continuing dialog from Raiderwill..
Nope..
I've already determined you'll NEVER be worthy of my Wisdom.. You will have to mature first...

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see ya!

Weighing in with my opinion of this device after almost a month of use...
I absolutely have no problem with it, honestly.
Do I have a bit of a buyer remorse? Somehow, after I bought the phone the note 5 pro was announced, the chipset in it definitely make me jealous. It doesn't help also there is currently some crazy development with the device from the get go.
But honestly, with the horrible availability of xiaomi devices, why should I bother really? The 5 pro probably will never make it to Egypt or an Arab country (I bought the honor from Saudi Arabia), we only have redmi 5 plus and the 64 giga version had a flash sale for an hour and then disappeared without a trace, **** this kind of crap really I'd rather pay a little more and not play any kind of one plus old days crappy games, life is too short.
Back to the honor, I picked it over the redmi 5 plus for 2 reasons other than the availability too, the fact that it's a real metal unibody not half and half and I'd take emui over miui any time of the day (just look at the horrendous bastardization of the recents screen), emui with a theme and a new launcher is almost stock to me, I'm not honestly bothered by anything in the software (I actually like the aggressive battery settings) except for the clear of notifications after unlocking, which is kinda really stupid.
Having project treble almost guaranteed also was a buying reason, it was obvious that honor was committed to bring treble to all their updated devices, I didn't know what is going to happen with xiaomi (back then nobody has seen community treble porting yet), it doesn't help also that the 625 is getting older and older (support wise this means it will get easier to be left in the dust)
I had no issues with the touch, it just seems that Huawei has some kind of different scrolling behavior, the battery has been nice, not legendary, just Nice, the performance has been fantastic so far, honestly I never feel like I'm performing something faster than the device can catch up except in the horrific camera app, which is definitely a software issue that I hope will be fixed in oreo. (That app is a pain to use). Captured photos are nice, a bit on the colder side but manual mode works well for me.
The biggest issue people witness with the phone is the potatoish gpu, I'm not that bothered because the games I have thrown at it worked well (if the slower ones were playable), emulation worked really well especially as I completed prince of persia rival swords completely on the phone, I couldn't ask for more.
If anybody reading this, looking to buy a new phone and has no access to the note 5 pro honestly get the honor 7x, there is currently no better choice I can think of, everybody is praising the Nokia 7 plus as the new budget King and it's almost ****ing 350 euro, I think people's view on what budget means became skewed with how we have 1000 USD phones in the market, 350 USD to 500 USD are NOT budget phones for God sake.
What I would wish for my next phone? Better gpu just for the sake for more future proofing (I plan to stick with a phone for 4 years) and USB C, everything else currently technology wise is not a big deal and nothing in flagships currently is making me jealous, the honor looks fantastically modern (I was a Moto g fanboy but man these leaks of Moto g6 look incredibly ugly with the 18:9 ratio plus a chin, the **** Motorola?). Last thing would be an AMOLED screen, these beautiful true deep blacks must come to budget devices one day.
My 2 cents.

Thinking of selling..

Hey all,
I bought this phone thinking it was going to be a sea of development given the "gamer" friendly tags that were constantly thrown about, but development is almost literally non-existent and as such, this is really not the device for me. I would almost happily switch back to my OnePlus 3 at this point, just so I could play around with it, try out different ROMs and enjoy the variety you get from a phone with great support. Right now, I am pretty much bored with the phone. And with such a bad camera on such a premium device, I'm actually a bit annoyed at it's price point too..
Now, I've got a few minor scrapes on the edges from a drop here or there, but the hardware is perfectly functioning. What do you think I should put it up for?
(I'm in UK)

Development should take off once Oreo is released due to treble support (check the treble thread for proof of lineage booting)
However ATM with nougat there's nothing. Tbh this A/B partitioning thing is what causes all these development issues it's why I hate it.

Roxas598 said:
Development should take off once Oreo is released due to treble support (check the treble thread for proof of lineage booting)
However ATM with nougat there's nothing. Tbh this A/B partitioning thing is what causes all these development issues it's why I hate it.
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The A/B thing doesn't appear to help no.
I'm going to dump this for something older. Maybe sell this for ~£400.
Should give me enough to get a OnePlus 5T or HTC U11 or Xiaomi MI6.

kickassdave said:
The A/B thing doesn't appear to help no.
I'm going to dump this for something older. Maybe sell this for ~£400.
Should give me enough to get a OnePlus 5T or HTC U11 or Xiaomi MI6.
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You might not get £400 for it. I paid £400 for a brand new unsealed one a month or so ago so yours being used will knock a bit off.
Saying that if you can I'd sell it now and hold off on OP6 if you can and if you can't afford the OP6 the 5T should drop a bit online that's if you can wait a bit.
If you can't out of all of those id get the 5T (and then flash lineage OS) I don't trust OP software anymore.

Roxas598 said:
You might not get £400 for it. I paid £400 for a brand new unsealed one a month or so ago so yours being used will knock a bit off.
Saying that if you can I'd sell it now and hold off on OP6 if you can and if you can't afford the OP6 the 5T should drop a bit online that's if you can wait a bit.
If you can't out of all of those id get the 5T (and then flash lineage OS) I don't trust OP software anymore.
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I'll settle happily for ~£350. Already bought a Mi Mix 2. Good dev support, massive big screen, Snap 835. Winner. I'll get my money back on that.

kickassdave said:
I'll settle happily for ~£350. Already bought a Mi Mix 2. Good dev support, massive big screen, Snap 835. Winner. I'll get my money back on that.
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Didn't realise the mi mix had good dev support, how much it cost you?

Roxas598 said:
Didn't realise the mi mix had good dev support, how much it cost you?
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£340 shipping from HK to UK.
Gearbest.com

kickassdave said:
£340 shipping from HK to UK.
Gearbest.com
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Oof be careful you don't get hit with import fee's

Roxas598 said:
Oof be careful you don't get hit with import fee's
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Even if I do, it's never as bad as people make out. Like £20 max.
Bought a Mi5 before from a similar company and it was minimal.

kickassdave said:
Even if I do, it's never as bad as people make out. Like £20 max.
Bought a Mi5 before from a similar company and it was minimal.
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I got hit with £90 for importing the essential phone so it can be more than you think.

If you want to sell, I'd recommend CEX they offer a decent price for it.
But the person above is correct, you can easily get them around £350 - £400 brand new or brand new condition.
Otherwise try your luck on gumtree, but be safe out there. I've been burned in the past using them.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Give it a little time till the official android 8.1 update comes out
The main reason to why the community has been dry is because project treble has not yet been officially released and since the 8.1 preview, things are looking good.
Be patient a little and we will see.

I can't give it any more time. I'm literally having more fun right now messing around with my old Xiaomi Mi 5!
New phone on it's way and happy to sell this for £300/£350.

kickassdave said:
I can't give it any more time. I'm literally having more fun right now messing around with my old Xiaomi Mi 5!
New phone on it's way and happy to sell this for £300/£350.
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Thats up to you bro. Thats what i would do because you can go back to oneplus anyways. I would wait.

It's a shame as this best phone out, but reading all the issues about hardware fails and bad camera, no wireless charging, no ROMs, etc etc. I'm sticking with my Moto z (and that has similar lack of support!). And believe me I really wanted to ditch and get a Razer, but I just couldn't justify it!
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I was also head over when this phone was announced and released. Am glad I took my time because the lack of development support would have driven me nuts!. Price wise these are definitely falling. There was an offer recently if I remember correctly when mobiles.co were selling the phone on a £30 a month contract with 30gb of data a month! That was cheap but perhaps a reflection of the falling demand and prices.

I just bought a used one! It'll be here probably Wednesday or Thursday.

Think I will be selling mine in a week or so, I can't handle not having even one ROM to play with, can't believe the lack of development I thought this would have had developers all over this to test and enhance this powerful and exciting device. Its a sad day for all razer phone owners. P. S I do respect developers and time and effort they put into creating the roms and mods respect to all

Food for Thought perhaps...
my previous five phones have been Sony I've loved them, my last Sony the xz1 performed abysmally such that I jumped ship for the Razor with its enhanced screen capabilities and superior RAM architecture.
So I just recently purchased the Sony xz2 for my girlfriend which has the 845 processor I believe.
In a nutshell having used the Razor and then playing with this new xz2 I was shocked at how backward that xz2 felt compared to the blistering fast experience that I'm experiencing on our razor.
The xz2 felt sluggish in direct comparison.
Therefore leaving me with a very sweet taste in hanging on to the Razer.
The 835 cpu, 8gb DDR4 RAM with the 120Hz screen.
Honestly no phone out there today reacts and loads quicker then the Razer.
But I hear and do appreciate there are some compromises with the Razer.
But the good far outweigh the bad in my circumstance.

dillalade said:
Food for Thought perhaps...
my previous five phones have been Sony I've loved them, my last Sony the xz1 performed abysmally such that I jumped ship for the Razor with its enhanced screen capabilities and superior RAM architecture.
So I just recently purchased the Sony xz2 for my girlfriend which has the 845 processor I believe.
In a nutshell having used the Razor and then playing with this new xz2 I was shocked at how backward that xz2 felt compared to the blistering fast experience that I'm experiencing on our razor.
The xz2 felt sluggish in direct comparison.
Therefore leaving me with a very sweet taste in hanging on to the Razer.
The 835 cpu, 8gb DDR4 RAM with the 120Hz screen.
Honestly no phone out there today reacts and loads quicker then the Razer.
But I hear and do appreciate there are some compromises with the Razer.
But the good far outweigh the bad in my circumstance.
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The problem is.... I LOVE the ROM flashing scene. I love tinkering with the OS and getting a feel for different ROMs and their features. Completely baron in here unfortunately and it is for that reason almost entirely that I gave up.
I get bored with phones too quick. Flashing new ROMs always breathes little doses of fresh air back in to them and keeps you interested. Depending on who you are of course.