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Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards

My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.

A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?

Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.

510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?

DawarAzhar said:
What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?

I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.

DawarAzhar said:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.

G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides

Quickdraw996 said:
If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though

Good Son 5 said:
Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.

Quickdraw996 said:
I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.

Good Son 5 said:
Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

G5S plus..

Anyone else a little annoyed they're releasing a new version already with dual camera for almost the same price that the standard plus released with? I know it's still basically the same phone with a slightly larger screen and improved? Camera. But I'm definitely a little peeved

Yup it is a little annoying but Lenovo seem hell bent on having more models in the market than anyone else.

I am also a little annoyed by it. Planned obsoleteness at it's finest.

joshk89 said:
Anyone else a little annoyed they're releasing a new version already with dual camera for almost the same price that the standard plus released with? I know it's still basically the same phone with a slightly larger screen and improved? Camera. But I'm definitely a little peeved
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Nope. As with many things electronics if you wait a day, week, month, year, something better will come along. One can either choose to wait and wait for the newest best thing and never buy anything, or they can buy now and not worry about it. As with many things as new products are introduced existing products are reduced in price (or discontinued).
The rumored specs of the soon to be released new Moto phones have been circulating for a few months now. One could have waited to buy the new phone if they wanted. <shrugs>
My only concern with Moto introducing so many different models of phones is their support (firmware updates, bug fixes) for all phones will suffer. In typical Motorola fashion, the updates/fixes for the Moto G5 Plus are already lagging months behind.

itslels said:
I am also a little annoyed by it. Planned obsoleteness at it's finest.
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This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.

bennor3814 said:
Nope. As with many things electronics if you wait a day, week, month, year, something better will come along.
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I cant think of another handset being superseded after only 5 months, 12 months you can understand but 5 is taking the micky.
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This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
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No it just leave you with an inferior product that you paid around the same for.

username8611 said:
This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
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Yeah, the thing is, it still kinda is. They know people want the newest, best stuff. No reason that the G5 plus couldn't of had these little extra features they've added to the G5S. But this way, they get even more money out of people because they know they will buy it.

MrBelter said:
I cant think of another handset being superseded after only 5 months, 12 months you can understand but 5 is taking the micky.
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No it just leave you with an inferior product that you paid around the same for.
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itslels said:
Yeah, the thing is, it still kinda is. They know people want the newest, best stuff. No reason that the G5 plus couldn't of had these little extra features they've added to the G5S. But this way, they get even more money out of people because they know they will buy it.
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No, it isn't. The device still has the same specs. Just because something came out with the same price and slightly higher specs doesn't mean our phones have been downgraded. It doesn't change the performance of the phone. What they ARE doing, however, is taking advantage of people's lack of self control and tech addictions. They can come out with a SD835, 6GB RAM model tomorrow for $50 less than what I paid for my G5 plus and I wouldn't care the slightest bit. I love my devices and I love technology, but if you always have to have the absolute best technology or absolute best deal at all points in time, you will never be happy and will constantly complain when technology moves forwards and you failed to predict the next item being released.

Not really, we all knew what we got when we bought this phone. Its not an powerhouse, it doesn't have the best camera, its just a good decent phone. If they slapped the Lenovo tag on it it wouldn't be such a big deal.
It's still a good phone that you can easily use for 2 years. Plus the specs are nearly the same so I am guessing the software is going to be pretty close together too. If they just keep rolling out updates I really don't see the problem.

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No, it isn't. The device still has the same specs. Just because something came out with the same price and slightly higher specs doesn't mean our phones have been downgraded.
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If it was the same spec it would be called the Moto G5 Plus, clearly there are differences to make it yet another model.

So then, bigger screen, better camera(s) full metal body and the same price as what the G5 Plus was.
We've been shafted lads and lasses.

MrBelter said:
So then, bigger screen, better camera(s) full metal body and the same price as what the G5 Plus was.
We've been shafted lads and lasses.
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Welcome to the world to the world of technology.
You can always sell your G5 Plus and buy the G5S Plus, no big deal

GtrCraft said:
Welcome to the world to the world of technology.
You can always sell your G5 Plus and buy the G5S Plus, no big deal
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You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.

MrBelter said:
You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
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Oneplus did, Samsung did, HTC did. 6 months is long in the world of tech, sometimes in a couple weeks something better is out

MrBelter said:
You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
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6 months is a very long time in the tech world. Most flagship device at least comes down one third in price in 6 months. In comparison I have to say that g5 retained some good value.
Moreover I am not seeing it as a big update either.
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No not really... This phone works fine and it'll continue working fine even when that new model comes out.

In my opinion it's not a replacement of the g5 plus but it's a different phone in the same lineup. For example I haven't considered the g5 plus because of the screen that is too small for me, but I'm definitely considering to buy this one.
I'm just waiting to see how the g5s plus performs in real life and how much community support it will have.

Sorry to resuscitate such an old thread but I was just wondering how hard it would be to port a ROM over for the g5s+ or if there might be Dev support for it. The specs look EXACTLY the same except for the better camera and bigger display. If there will be Dev support I might be interested in buying one as they're on sale for the holidays.

Why do people say the S plus is a better camera?
Just because it has two doesn't make it better.

eemgee said:
Why do people say the S plus is a better camera?
Just because it has two doesn't make it better.
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Right! From all reports I've seen, the G5S+ camera does not perform well. However, I understand the camera 2 api is enabled on that device, so I'm very annoyed that it's not on the G5+. But in hardware terms, the G5S+ is a big yawn, for me.
As far as I'm concerned dual cameras are nothing but a gimmick, in most cases. There are a few implementations that work well, but most are hit or miss. Coupled with a screen that's larger than I want, it all adds up to an unappealing package. Obviously, others' mileage varies.

Oneplus 5T releasing on 16th November. Why?

Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.

The phone will still be the same. I got mine by the end of july and i dont regret it at all

Because that's the way it goes. Same as people who open an new thread for similar questions that's already been answered.

My question is: "Why not?"

I'm gonna be pissed if it's not waterproof. Then it's really just large screen and slightly better front cam based on the rumors.
hopefully they kept capacitive keys, too, otherwise there's even less incentive to upgrade.

I agree
...with OP, this is ridiculous.
It was one thing for OnePlus to come out with the 3T, to incorporate the off-cycle introduction of the Snapdragon 821. But they now expect to support 2 flagship phones a year, every single year? They expect customer loyalty, when they just chose to obsolete us every six months? Insanity.
If your marketing tactics have a loyal, repeat customer such as myself wondering ”why the hell did I even buy this thing?" after only 5 months, you've failed.

miten_sheth said:
Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
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Why not? I have this phone from June and i'm happy to have a new variant borderless & APN optimized. It's the same CPU/RAM, so performances will be the same, it's not a mandatory to change mate !

Ofcourse its not mandatory to change but when I buy a new phone, I dont expect the company to release new *flagship* killer phones every 6 months. I mean that's insane.
I mean, I'm sad because if you end up releasing new phones every 6 months with some changes to the previous models, I would always keep waiting as a consumer to buy a new phone from the company because I want the latest model.
Imho, they are just losing customers releasing new phones this quick.

I have a brilliant idea: Only buy the T revision phones, instead of being impatient. That will also teach OnePlus a lesson when their sales plummet.

If the jelly screen bug from oneplus 5 is gone i will get an 5T to replace my Mi6.
Really miss the 3.5 headphone jack.

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I have a brilliant idea: Only buy the T revision phones, instead of being impatient. That will also teach OnePlus a lesson when their sales plummet.
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I like this idea!

Business is business unfortunately.
I genuinely don't mind flogging my OP5 in favor of putting up an extra £100 and buying the 5T.
New phone that incorporates some features I want. Honestly don't see what the issue is.
Also I don't see an issue with a company trying to improve it's product.

miten_sheth said:
Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
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Look Ma! I got famous! ????

It should be atleast 50$ costlier than 5

Other smartphone manufacturers do this as well. It actually maximises sales.
The 5T isn't marketed to 5 owners. They're going after 3/3T owners looking to upgrade.

They should have added a microSD card slot, how much more can it be? The phone is big and already has room for it.

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They should have added a microSD card slot, how much more can it be? The phone is big and already has room for it.
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These days, people are after big screens, headphone jacks and large batteries. I think storage options seem to be okay with the 128gb in there. 256 would have been welcomed I suppose.

I would be happy to get updated phone even every 6 months or so, that would perfect.

Just came across the unboxing video link..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTBqHpPWm5E

Is the Pixel 2 xl worth $900

Ok so most of us has had our pixels for a few weeks now, do you think it's worth $900. Honest answers please.....

Absolutely. It has everything I want in a phone and has the exact form factor I want it in(I hate edge display and am not a fan of bezel-less deisgns from day to day use). I'm getting a minimum of 3 years of OS updates, 3 years of monthly security updates, chat or phone call support, and unlimited full resolution photo uploads. It's going to take something really magical to come out for me to switch to another device. I thought the 6P would fit the bill for a long term device for me, but that S10 was a throttling POS. Thought the original Pixel would have been a long term phone, but I REALLY missed front facing stereo speakers. Any other phones out there will not be supported over 3 years and I refuse to get burned by a company that drops support on their products again. Is this device perfect out of the box.....no. Then again not one phone is. Most of the issues reported are not anything I notice in day to day use or I have remedied myself( for example using the original Pixel cable for Android Auto stopped the crashes). I love it.

The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.

Hardware worth the value? Absolutely not,
but Software worth the value, Yes as @AndrasLOHF said. I agree especially with front-facing speaker. Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, Unlimited photo storage etc. I have one so I can run stock latest android software this year, and the camera.

as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.

Absolutely for me especially with the trade in... which makes it a more reasonable price!
Like front ? ?, Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, and unlimited photo storage...

Yes, I think it is worth the asking price... For me it's the only natural progression from my 6P (personally, the best phone I've owned) which includes 3 years of updates /upgrades..

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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now

Nope, but it's worth $575 which is what I'll cost me after getting $425 back from T-Mobile

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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason I went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now lol. Oh well I have both now I'm ?

Probably not worth $900. None of the phones out are. They all do what your last phone did. Every phone discounts soon after launch. The early adopters pay the high amounts. Samsung BOGO, or savings off the note 8 if you had a note 7. Essential discounted after release. Lg discounted after release. Pixel 2 $375 just to bring it Tmobile. Just wait a month once the phone you want comes out. Tough I know but some of the pixel 2 are already cheaper on swappa then the Google store.

Lucky for me I found a guy selling the pixel 2 xl on craigslist for $700 but I offered him $500 and he text me back a day later asking for $550 ?. Been loving it ever since, currently got my essential phone on eBay and it's up to $450 with a day to go.

Is it worth 900? Everything inside of me says NO however I bought the thing, I love it and I would buy it again if I broke or lost this phone. So I guess money speaks louder than words in this scenario. The software just blows everything else out of the water. Id love to have the Iphone Xs 4k @ 60fps, The LG V30's SD card slot, headphone jack and quad dac but I would still pick the pixel 2 XL over any of those due to the overall experience.

In Switzerland it's 1 109 Dollar, very expensive but i love it so far

luciusfox said:
The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.

It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.

dinkoh said:
+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
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I think that quality control problems are massively overblown.
Mine, for the record, is flawless. Have NOT done any exchange.
I think that there are two things that are contributing to people's perceptions being skewed on these (which isn't to say that there aren't a few that are genuinely defective).
1) It is a little bit weird when you suddenly find yourself looking through a circular polarization filter. It does cause a slight color shift at hard angles.. but that's the nature of having a circular polarization filter, which is a tradeoff for people who wear polarized glasses so that they can actually see it at all orientations. I suspect that people who do a few trade-ins eventually get used to the effect, which is why their final replacement is probably not as "bad" as the first one. I know that I've gotten so used to it now that I have to intentionally look for it now... oh yeah, that's what it does!
2) The application drawer has a very slight transparency to it. That means that you can see the image behind it very slightly -- and it looks like burn-in.
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BabelHuber said:
It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
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You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.

I picked up a Pixel 2 XL during Verizon's $300 off promotion. I also have a Note 8 to compare it to. I don't think any phone, especially the iPhone X, is worth $900-1000. A more reasonable amount would be $600-700 and payment plans play a big role in the upped prices this year. The OnePlus 5T at $300+ less than other flagships with similar specs, also makes you wonder. The Note 8 does feel more premium than the Pixel 2 XL, but the software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is the best I've ever seen.
A good indication of where thing are heading is that one can get a brand new LG G5 for $230, an S7 for $400, or an S8 for $575. Getting last year's models or waiting until a phone has been out 6 months is especially cost effective.

You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact..
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No.
I did not want a Samsung or LG anymore, I wanted something with good developer support.
So when I changed my contract I could get a new phone. Samsung and LG were out, OnePlus was not available at T-Mobile Germany. The Nokia 8 has a locked bootloader. So the choice was between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. The OnePlus 5T without contract was more expensive than the Pixels with contract.
So I shelled out €400, what else should I have done?
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
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I hope so, so far I haven't managed to get Bluetooth audio playback working in my car.

It's worth the 765 I paid, plus the trade in for my P XL makes it a reasonable enough upgrade at 350.

Should I buy OP5T?

I don't want to wait till June to buy a new phone, but feel like with my luck the second I receive a 5T the OP6 will get released.
I've spent the past couple of days looking at phones. OP5T has the most pros (build quality, software, specs, performance, development, price.)
The Pixel 2 is expensive and aside from the camera, not necessarily a better device (I don't think)
Essential phone seems like a bargain (now)but the camera is subpar.
OP5T cons: apparently not great picture quality and no project treble. These aren't small compromises but they're easier to overlook by because its such an appealing device.
No one wants to hear me talk about phones. If you have a minute I'd REALLY appreciate your input.
Should I buy OP5T? Ideally Id like to use my next phone for 2 years.
Any input is welcome.
Thanks!

I consider the 5t as the best android option
after two years it will still be fast and great
considering that the oneplus 6 is just around the corner I would have waited for it
but still you won't go wrong with the 5t

AlMaghraby said:
I consider the 5t as the best android option
after two years it will still be fast and great
considering that the oneplus 6 is just around the corner I would have waited for it
but still you won't go wrong with the 5t
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Thanks. The one supposed downside about OP6 is price. I'm hearing $749. If that's the base model then it might influence my decision.
I'm really leaning toward buying OP5T.
Maybe you can clarify. I've heard that any phone that gets updated to Android P will need to support project treble. Oneplus has stated it won't support project treble which, if I have my facts straight, means there will be no Android P for this phone. That'd suck because this phone was released after Oreo came out. It seems like they purposely held back on O just so they wouldn't need to support treble.
Have you or anyone else heard different? Is it likely the 5T will receive P and according to the rules would need to support treble?
I'm sure this phone will continue to attract developers for awhile but with project treble I'm extremely confident developers will stick around and new ones will emerge. The specs on this phone can carry it for years.

android P and treble being mandatory are still assumptions based on source code this may change in the future and there may be a workaround by oneplus to release it for the 5t but most likely android P will be released for the 5t
so if that what is holding you back don't make it prevent you from buying it will 90% get official android 9

If you want it, buy it...if not then dont.

Although the 5t camera is not considered a high point I think it is very good, using it was above my expectations, but I come from an iPhone 6s where I also found the camera very good, and even then the 5T is more. as speed is something above the ordinary, I was using samsung's and motorolas, using oneplus was a pleasant surprise, I had never seen Android run so fast

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/23/oneplus-5t-stock-north-america-run-dry-no-planned/

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/23/oneplus-5t-stock-north-america-run-dry-no-planned/
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Yes I'm aware. That's what made me consider holding out for OP6. Often times when sales stop suddenly like that it means the release date is coming soon. There are rumors it'll launch early. But at $749 for the base model...its a little more than I wanted to spend. There's plenty of new OP5T's on eBay and Amazon.

AlMaghraby said:
android P and treble being mandatory are still assumptions based on source code this may change in the future and there may be a workaround by oneplus to release it for the 5t but most likely android P will be released for the 5t
so if that what is holding you back don't make it prevent you from buying it will 90% get official android 9
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You may have just convinced me.
That's the part I can't really get a straight answer for. It's a definite that any phone that ships with O is mandated to have project treble. I've heard if it updates to P they need to implement treble but I don't think Google will hold them to that. It could cause problems because some companies might not update to P to avoid treble, and point a finger at Google. Google can blame them but really both parties will hurt a little.
Anyways, I think I'm gonna get one. Thanks

Dude i just bought it 2 days ago..i moved on from op3 and i have to say this device is awesome.. Reminds me of Nexus 6 i had once

Rajul said:
Dude i just bought it 2 days ago..i moved on from op3 and i have to say this device is awesome.. Reminds me of Nexus 6 i had once
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Yeah. I loved my Nexus 6p. If they hadn't botched that battery I'd still be using out.
It's been an adventure since my last post. I looked on eBay and Amazon. The 5Ts are generally selling $700+ unless you buy international version (no warranty)
Plus the reasonably priced ones had some concerning seller feedback.
Figured if I was gonna pay that much I might as well go with a Pixel 2 XL. Found one onWalmart that seemed to good to be true (XL 128GB for $849) but then realized that unlocked GSM/CDMA means locked bootloader so I cancelled the order.
I'm not paying a premium when for a little more I can just wait and buy the OP6.
Sucks though. I was hoping to get one by the weekend. I even considered Swappa because it's a relatively new phone but even there the prices are a little bloated.
If anyone finds a good deal please report it here or private message. Lol! I picking the worst FREAKIN time to buy a 5T.

But why don't you buy it from China? I know that guaranty is a thing, but for 200 USD you can fix it yourself even if it will be a hardware issue.