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Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.
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I will try to answer as many of your questions as possible.
2: Bootloader unlock process is a breeze if you read the FAQ in our Guides section. I did not run into any problems.
3: ROM support has been great so far in my opinion. More and more options are popping up each day. I believe OnePlus has also provided from developers on here a free device for them to develop on.
4: I bought my OP3 in October as an upgrade to my Nexus 5. I was furious when they basically released the same phone with a bigger battery in the OP3T though. The reason I didn't jump on the OP3 immediately when it released was because I wanted a bigger battery and then a month after I received my OP3, the OP3T comes out.
I also don't like how camera is only optimized on stock based roms right now because OnePlus has not released camera sources. Also don't like how a new they release a new firmware with each update that breaks things on certain roms. I guess I was spoiled on how easy it was to switch roms on my old Nexus 5.
5: I haven't bought a used phone before but I would suggest making sure the IMEI is not blacked out somehow? Check the screen THOROUGHLY. The screen scratches really easily on this phone. I noticed micro scratches on my screen only after a few weeks of use.
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.
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Dont know whether waiting is better for getting a better price. OP3T should be a bit more in price...... so you decide.
2. bootloader unlockig is very easy, no problems
3. i read about the OP2, getting slow updates. BUT trust in xda and CM, there will be a very long support for this device. (Looking at OnePlus One, there are plenty of good rom-devs till now, and will be in future)
but OP said, they will update OP3 and OP3T the same time, so you may expect good official support.
4. have got the OP3 and im very satisfied with the phone. very good/fast fingerprint unlock and real good cam. (not exceptional, but solid good cam)
5. dont know
Great rom and kernel support.
I also had to choose between op3 and op3t and i took the normal one. Its already blazing fast, so i safed the money for snapdragon update. No need.
And i make it easily through the day with the battery, so also no need.
So i am very happy with it and will also use it for at least 4 years.
2. Just go over here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3398733
3. Support is plenty for the OP3, especially over here at XDA.
4. Imho this is the best phone I ever had, and I had a few! Pure Performance, no input lags, no microstutters! And with 6GB RAM you don't have to worry about bottlenecks.
I can warmly recommend this one! And with AKT profiles you don't have to worry about battery life! ?
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What's the service menu hidden code for this phone? (Europe/Asia variant)
3-If it were me, I'll hold off for OP4 or something...since super size screen like the G6 or devices that have nougat feature hardware are coming to the market. Also, since op3 is outta production, with no new user of op3, I would expect ROMs or stuff in general to be more optimize for op3t.
4-I don't like the mono speaker, camera bump and no suitable temper glass now. Been using without protection for a year now and the only micro scrape came from S pen.
5-Aside from imei check, the other definite proof is dash charge. Get the official dash charger and charge on the spot. If there's a dash charge comment at the bottom, can charge 1% in +-30s, you got the real deal. If there's a return period, immediately root the phone and flash with some ROMs here to see if stuff working, no motherboard change and ect. OP warranty covers rooting.
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.
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1. The oneplus 3 is an awesome deal. If you can find it at 400 or under, I think it is worth it. I firmly believe this device will have a long life because of the hardware,oneplus, and the xda community. If you plan on keeping the phone for several years, purchasing some sort of warranty from oneplus might not be a bad idea. Just in case accidental drop water spill or something like that.
2. Bootloaderunlock is stupid easy. Allow bootloader unlocking, then fastboot oem unlock. Done. No special codes, none of that bull that Samsung and LG are putting out.
3. Kind of talked about this in number one, but we have top three dev communities for sure. We'll be getting tons of support for the years to come. I think 4 years is pushing it for any device, I could see 3 given the power of the SD 820, 6gigs of ram, and our dev community.
4. I love my oneplus 3. It's just consistent performer. I know if I put it on the charger for 30 minutes or so on the way to work/school I will have enough power to make it through the day without any of the freezes, hickups, or glitches that plague Samsung and LG. I've been running the official ressurection remix for the past couple days and performance has been beyond fantastic. Even on OOS and the Open Betas, it outclassed all the other android phones I have owned or looked at in shops.
5. It's not like the Samsung or other carrier branded phones where one version is bootloader unlockable and others are not. (Like Samsung with the T-mobile variants and Verizon/ATT variants). Identical to how the Nexus 6p was. A1 and A2, one standard and one international model. I haven't heard any mass reports of the phone dieing at 40 percent like what was happening to the 6p and 5x and have heard nothing like the bootloops caused by LG.
General tip, unless you want to read a ton of people complaining, stay off the OnePlus forums. No harm to them, but there's a lot of people that are just looking for anything to whine and complain about.
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1. The oneplus 3 is an awesome deal. If you can find it at 400 or under, I think it is worth it. I firmly believe this device will have a long life because of the hardware,oneplus, and the xda community. If you plan on keeping the phone for several years, purchasing some sort of warranty from oneplus might not be a bad idea. Just in case accidental drop water spill or something like that.
2. Bootloaderunlock is stupid easy. Allow bootloader unlocking, then fastboot oem unlock. Done. No special codes, none of that bull that Samsung and LG are putting out.
3. Kind of talked about this in number one, but we have top three dev communities for sure. We'll be getting tons of support for the years to come. I think 4 years is pushing it for any device, I could see 3 given the power of the SD 820, 6gigs of ram, and our dev community.
4. I love my oneplus 3. It's just consistent performer. I know if I put it on the charger for 30 minutes or so on the way to work/school I will have enough power to make it through the day without any of the freezes, hickups, or glitches that plague Samsung and LG. I've been running the official ressurection remix for the past couple days and performance has been beyond fantastic. Even on OOS and the Open Betas, it outclassed all the other android phones I have owned or looked at in shops.
5. It's not like the Samsung or other carrier branded phones where one version is bootloader unlockable and others are not. (Like Samsung with the T-mobile variants and Verizon/ATT variants). Identical to how the Nexus 6p was. A1 and A2, one standard and one international model. I haven't heard any mass reports of the phone dieing at 40 percent like what was happening to the 6p and 5x and have heard nothing like the bootloops caused by LG.
General tip, unless you want to read a ton of people complaining, stay off the OnePlus forums. No harm to them, but there's a lot of people that are just looking for anything to whine and complain about.
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Thank you very much for your response, it's extremely encouraging. I just got the response from the seller that the phone was bought in July 2016, was in a protective case from day one, and apparently has no damage at all. Am I still encouraged to go for it? I really, really like this phone and I definitely wouldn't want to miss the chance if it's the right one. Any tips on how could I additionally verify the phone's reliability when meeting with the seller, both software and hardware-wise?
Fobos531 said:
Thank you very much for your response, it's extremely encouraging. I just got the response from the seller that the phone was bought in July 2016, was in a protective case from day one, and apparently has no damage at all. Am I still encouraged to go for it? I really, really like this phone and I definitely wouldn't want to miss the chance if it's the right one. Any tips on how could I additionally verify the phone's reliability when meeting with the seller, both software and hardware-wise?
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Hmm, ask him to let it get low on charge and see if dash charge should get 3A or more in an app like ampere if the battery is under 40%.. e. Launch the camera, take some pictures record a video, if you have usb otg try using that.. But that's just basic stuff for any phone. Check the screen at angles for cracks
If you like it, get it! ?
Some really good questions, here are my thoughts on them:
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
I would say (if you're not super excited to purchase soon) - wait for it. Not just for the sale though, they might even bring the midnight black in 64GB later and cut prices on it along with the regular models. OP is like that - completely going against their previous statements
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
Its a breeze, there is not one but two communities there to help you with it anyway.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
I had a OPO before I switched to OP3 - each of the device is a winner. And as you can see, it has been more than 8 months since OP3 release and it is still one of the most popular devices on XDA. There are many ROM/Kernel options, however, due to the camera blobs hassle, many people are staying on OOS based ROMs.
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
I am really happy with my phone and will definitely recommend it to anyone. It is a very pretty phone no matter what color you opt for.
Things I don't like:
1. Unavailability of better-looking screen protectors - there are ones which dont cover the edges, and then there are ones which cover the whole screen and the top and bottom bezels, but I have heard they don't have a very nice feel.
2. On OP3, Battery life is average - on mobile data you get 3Hrs of SoT with average use I think it would be a bit better on the 3T.
3. Camera bump
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
I would recommend getting a new one, used tech is almost always a risky decision. However if you do go for a used one, probably checking the camera, dual-SIM functionality, 4G reception on your network, fingerprint sensor and capacitive touch buttons are the first things to check.
Also look for any dead pixels, burn-in or digitizer issues etc. Basically do everything you will be using when you get the phone.
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Anyone else a little annoyed they're releasing a new version already with dual camera for almost the same price that the standard plus released with? I know it's still basically the same phone with a slightly larger screen and improved? Camera. But I'm definitely a little peeved
Yup it is a little annoying but Lenovo seem hell bent on having more models in the market than anyone else.
I am also a little annoyed by it. Planned obsoleteness at it's finest.
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Anyone else a little annoyed they're releasing a new version already with dual camera for almost the same price that the standard plus released with? I know it's still basically the same phone with a slightly larger screen and improved? Camera. But I'm definitely a little peeved
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Nope. As with many things electronics if you wait a day, week, month, year, something better will come along. One can either choose to wait and wait for the newest best thing and never buy anything, or they can buy now and not worry about it. As with many things as new products are introduced existing products are reduced in price (or discontinued).
The rumored specs of the soon to be released new Moto phones have been circulating for a few months now. One could have waited to buy the new phone if they wanted. <shrugs>
My only concern with Moto introducing so many different models of phones is their support (firmware updates, bug fixes) for all phones will suffer. In typical Motorola fashion, the updates/fixes for the Moto G5 Plus are already lagging months behind.
itslels said:
I am also a little annoyed by it. Planned obsoleteness at it's finest.
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This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
bennor3814 said:
Nope. As with many things electronics if you wait a day, week, month, year, something better will come along.
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I cant think of another handset being superseded after only 5 months, 12 months you can understand but 5 is taking the micky.
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username8611 said:
This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
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No it just leave you with an inferior product that you paid around the same for.
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This is not planned obsolescence. Releasing a successor to this device does not change a single thing about this devices performance or usability.
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Yeah, the thing is, it still kinda is. They know people want the newest, best stuff. No reason that the G5 plus couldn't of had these little extra features they've added to the G5S. But this way, they get even more money out of people because they know they will buy it.
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I cant think of another handset being superseded after only 5 months, 12 months you can understand but 5 is taking the micky.
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No it just leave you with an inferior product that you paid around the same for.
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itslels said:
Yeah, the thing is, it still kinda is. They know people want the newest, best stuff. No reason that the G5 plus couldn't of had these little extra features they've added to the G5S. But this way, they get even more money out of people because they know they will buy it.
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No, it isn't. The device still has the same specs. Just because something came out with the same price and slightly higher specs doesn't mean our phones have been downgraded. It doesn't change the performance of the phone. What they ARE doing, however, is taking advantage of people's lack of self control and tech addictions. They can come out with a SD835, 6GB RAM model tomorrow for $50 less than what I paid for my G5 plus and I wouldn't care the slightest bit. I love my devices and I love technology, but if you always have to have the absolute best technology or absolute best deal at all points in time, you will never be happy and will constantly complain when technology moves forwards and you failed to predict the next item being released.
Not really, we all knew what we got when we bought this phone. Its not an powerhouse, it doesn't have the best camera, its just a good decent phone. If they slapped the Lenovo tag on it it wouldn't be such a big deal.
It's still a good phone that you can easily use for 2 years. Plus the specs are nearly the same so I am guessing the software is going to be pretty close together too. If they just keep rolling out updates I really don't see the problem.
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No, it isn't. The device still has the same specs. Just because something came out with the same price and slightly higher specs doesn't mean our phones have been downgraded.
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If it was the same spec it would be called the Moto G5 Plus, clearly there are differences to make it yet another model.
So then, bigger screen, better camera(s) full metal body and the same price as what the G5 Plus was.
We've been shafted lads and lasses.
MrBelter said:
So then, bigger screen, better camera(s) full metal body and the same price as what the G5 Plus was.
We've been shafted lads and lasses.
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Welcome to the world to the world of technology.
You can always sell your G5 Plus and buy the G5S Plus, no big deal
GtrCraft said:
Welcome to the world to the world of technology.
You can always sell your G5 Plus and buy the G5S Plus, no big deal
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You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
MrBelter said:
You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
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Oneplus did, Samsung did, HTC did. 6 months is long in the world of tech, sometimes in a couple weeks something better is out
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You are talking cobblers fella, even in the world of technology 6 months is a short period of time for a product to be superseded, not even greedy Apple have the balls to pull that stunt.
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6 months is a very long time in the tech world. Most flagship device at least comes down one third in price in 6 months. In comparison I have to say that g5 retained some good value.
Moreover I am not seeing it as a big update either.
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No not really... This phone works fine and it'll continue working fine even when that new model comes out.
In my opinion it's not a replacement of the g5 plus but it's a different phone in the same lineup. For example I haven't considered the g5 plus because of the screen that is too small for me, but I'm definitely considering to buy this one.
I'm just waiting to see how the g5s plus performs in real life and how much community support it will have.
Sorry to resuscitate such an old thread but I was just wondering how hard it would be to port a ROM over for the g5s+ or if there might be Dev support for it. The specs look EXACTLY the same except for the better camera and bigger display. If there will be Dev support I might be interested in buying one as they're on sale for the holidays.
Why do people say the S plus is a better camera?
Just because it has two doesn't make it better.
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Why do people say the S plus is a better camera?
Just because it has two doesn't make it better.
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Right! From all reports I've seen, the G5S+ camera does not perform well. However, I understand the camera 2 api is enabled on that device, so I'm very annoyed that it's not on the G5+. But in hardware terms, the G5S+ is a big yawn, for me.
As far as I'm concerned dual cameras are nothing but a gimmick, in most cases. There are a few implementations that work well, but most are hit or miss. Coupled with a screen that's larger than I want, it all adds up to an unappealing package. Obviously, others' mileage varies.
Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
The phone will still be the same. I got mine by the end of july and i dont regret it at all
Because that's the way it goes. Same as people who open an new thread for similar questions that's already been answered.
My question is: "Why not?"
I'm gonna be pissed if it's not waterproof. Then it's really just large screen and slightly better front cam based on the rumors.
hopefully they kept capacitive keys, too, otherwise there's even less incentive to upgrade.
I agree
...with OP, this is ridiculous.
It was one thing for OnePlus to come out with the 3T, to incorporate the off-cycle introduction of the Snapdragon 821. But they now expect to support 2 flagship phones a year, every single year? They expect customer loyalty, when they just chose to obsolete us every six months? Insanity.
If your marketing tactics have a loyal, repeat customer such as myself wondering ”why the hell did I even buy this thing?" after only 5 months, you've failed.
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Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
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Why not? I have this phone from June and i'm happy to have a new variant borderless & APN optimized. It's the same CPU/RAM, so performances will be the same, it's not a mandatory to change mate !
Ofcourse its not mandatory to change but when I buy a new phone, I dont expect the company to release new *flagship* killer phones every 6 months. I mean that's insane.
I mean, I'm sad because if you end up releasing new phones every 6 months with some changes to the previous models, I would always keep waiting as a consumer to buy a new phone from the company because I want the latest model.
Imho, they are just losing customers releasing new phones this quick.
I have a brilliant idea: Only buy the T revision phones, instead of being impatient. That will also teach OnePlus a lesson when their sales plummet.
If the jelly screen bug from oneplus 5 is gone i will get an 5T to replace my Mi6.
Really miss the 3.5 headphone jack.
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I have a brilliant idea: Only buy the T revision phones, instead of being impatient. That will also teach OnePlus a lesson when their sales plummet.
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I like this idea!
Business is business unfortunately.
I genuinely don't mind flogging my OP5 in favor of putting up an extra £100 and buying the 5T.
New phone that incorporates some features I want. Honestly don't see what the issue is.
Also I don't see an issue with a company trying to improve it's product.
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Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
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And thank you for asking the question (and starting a little discussion as well)
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Look Ma! I got famous! ????
It should be atleast 50$ costlier than 5
Other smartphone manufacturers do this as well. It actually maximises sales.
The 5T isn't marketed to 5 owners. They're going after 3/3T owners looking to upgrade.
They should have added a microSD card slot, how much more can it be? The phone is big and already has room for it.
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They should have added a microSD card slot, how much more can it be? The phone is big and already has room for it.
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These days, people are after big screens, headphone jacks and large batteries. I think storage options seem to be okay with the 128gb in there. 256 would have been welcomed I suppose.
I would be happy to get updated phone even every 6 months or so, that would perfect.
Just came across the unboxing video link..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTBqHpPWm5E
Ok so most of us has had our pixels for a few weeks now, do you think it's worth $900. Honest answers please.....
Absolutely. It has everything I want in a phone and has the exact form factor I want it in(I hate edge display and am not a fan of bezel-less deisgns from day to day use). I'm getting a minimum of 3 years of OS updates, 3 years of monthly security updates, chat or phone call support, and unlimited full resolution photo uploads. It's going to take something really magical to come out for me to switch to another device. I thought the 6P would fit the bill for a long term device for me, but that S10 was a throttling POS. Thought the original Pixel would have been a long term phone, but I REALLY missed front facing stereo speakers. Any other phones out there will not be supported over 3 years and I refuse to get burned by a company that drops support on their products again. Is this device perfect out of the box.....no. Then again not one phone is. Most of the issues reported are not anything I notice in day to day use or I have remedied myself( for example using the original Pixel cable for Android Auto stopped the crashes). I love it.
The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
Hardware worth the value? Absolutely not,
but Software worth the value, Yes as @AndrasLOHF said. I agree especially with front-facing speaker. Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, Unlimited photo storage etc. I have one so I can run stock latest android software this year, and the camera.
as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
Absolutely for me especially with the trade in... which makes it a more reasonable price!
Like front ? ?, Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, and unlimited photo storage...
Yes, I think it is worth the asking price... For me it's the only natural progression from my 6P (personally, the best phone I've owned) which includes 3 years of updates /upgrades..
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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now
Nope, but it's worth $575 which is what I'll cost me after getting $425 back from T-Mobile
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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason I went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now lol. Oh well I have both now I'm ?
Probably not worth $900. None of the phones out are. They all do what your last phone did. Every phone discounts soon after launch. The early adopters pay the high amounts. Samsung BOGO, or savings off the note 8 if you had a note 7. Essential discounted after release. Lg discounted after release. Pixel 2 $375 just to bring it Tmobile. Just wait a month once the phone you want comes out. Tough I know but some of the pixel 2 are already cheaper on swappa then the Google store.
Lucky for me I found a guy selling the pixel 2 xl on craigslist for $700 but I offered him $500 and he text me back a day later asking for $550 ?. Been loving it ever since, currently got my essential phone on eBay and it's up to $450 with a day to go.
Is it worth 900? Everything inside of me says NO however I bought the thing, I love it and I would buy it again if I broke or lost this phone. So I guess money speaks louder than words in this scenario. The software just blows everything else out of the water. Id love to have the Iphone Xs 4k @ 60fps, The LG V30's SD card slot, headphone jack and quad dac but I would still pick the pixel 2 XL over any of those due to the overall experience.
In Switzerland it's 1 109 Dollar, very expensive but i love it so far
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The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
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I think that quality control problems are massively overblown.
Mine, for the record, is flawless. Have NOT done any exchange.
I think that there are two things that are contributing to people's perceptions being skewed on these (which isn't to say that there aren't a few that are genuinely defective).
1) It is a little bit weird when you suddenly find yourself looking through a circular polarization filter. It does cause a slight color shift at hard angles.. but that's the nature of having a circular polarization filter, which is a tradeoff for people who wear polarized glasses so that they can actually see it at all orientations. I suspect that people who do a few trade-ins eventually get used to the effect, which is why their final replacement is probably not as "bad" as the first one. I know that I've gotten so used to it now that I have to intentionally look for it now... oh yeah, that's what it does!
2) The application drawer has a very slight transparency to it. That means that you can see the image behind it very slightly -- and it looks like burn-in.
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It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
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You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
I picked up a Pixel 2 XL during Verizon's $300 off promotion. I also have a Note 8 to compare it to. I don't think any phone, especially the iPhone X, is worth $900-1000. A more reasonable amount would be $600-700 and payment plans play a big role in the upped prices this year. The OnePlus 5T at $300+ less than other flagships with similar specs, also makes you wonder. The Note 8 does feel more premium than the Pixel 2 XL, but the software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is the best I've ever seen.
A good indication of where thing are heading is that one can get a brand new LG G5 for $230, an S7 for $400, or an S8 for $575. Getting last year's models or waiting until a phone has been out 6 months is especially cost effective.
You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact..
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No.
I did not want a Samsung or LG anymore, I wanted something with good developer support.
So when I changed my contract I could get a new phone. Samsung and LG were out, OnePlus was not available at T-Mobile Germany. The Nokia 8 has a locked bootloader. So the choice was between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. The OnePlus 5T without contract was more expensive than the Pixels with contract.
So I shelled out €400, what else should I have done?
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
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I hope so, so far I haven't managed to get Bluetooth audio playback working in my car.
It's worth the 765 I paid, plus the trade in for my P XL makes it a reasonable enough upgrade at 350.
Hey all,
I bought this phone thinking it was going to be a sea of development given the "gamer" friendly tags that were constantly thrown about, but development is almost literally non-existent and as such, this is really not the device for me. I would almost happily switch back to my OnePlus 3 at this point, just so I could play around with it, try out different ROMs and enjoy the variety you get from a phone with great support. Right now, I am pretty much bored with the phone. And with such a bad camera on such a premium device, I'm actually a bit annoyed at it's price point too..
Now, I've got a few minor scrapes on the edges from a drop here or there, but the hardware is perfectly functioning. What do you think I should put it up for?
(I'm in UK)
Development should take off once Oreo is released due to treble support (check the treble thread for proof of lineage booting)
However ATM with nougat there's nothing. Tbh this A/B partitioning thing is what causes all these development issues it's why I hate it.
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Development should take off once Oreo is released due to treble support (check the treble thread for proof of lineage booting)
However ATM with nougat there's nothing. Tbh this A/B partitioning thing is what causes all these development issues it's why I hate it.
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The A/B thing doesn't appear to help no.
I'm going to dump this for something older. Maybe sell this for ~£400.
Should give me enough to get a OnePlus 5T or HTC U11 or Xiaomi MI6.
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The A/B thing doesn't appear to help no.
I'm going to dump this for something older. Maybe sell this for ~£400.
Should give me enough to get a OnePlus 5T or HTC U11 or Xiaomi MI6.
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You might not get £400 for it. I paid £400 for a brand new unsealed one a month or so ago so yours being used will knock a bit off.
Saying that if you can I'd sell it now and hold off on OP6 if you can and if you can't afford the OP6 the 5T should drop a bit online that's if you can wait a bit.
If you can't out of all of those id get the 5T (and then flash lineage OS) I don't trust OP software anymore.
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You might not get £400 for it. I paid £400 for a brand new unsealed one a month or so ago so yours being used will knock a bit off.
Saying that if you can I'd sell it now and hold off on OP6 if you can and if you can't afford the OP6 the 5T should drop a bit online that's if you can wait a bit.
If you can't out of all of those id get the 5T (and then flash lineage OS) I don't trust OP software anymore.
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I'll settle happily for ~£350. Already bought a Mi Mix 2. Good dev support, massive big screen, Snap 835. Winner. I'll get my money back on that.
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I'll settle happily for ~£350. Already bought a Mi Mix 2. Good dev support, massive big screen, Snap 835. Winner. I'll get my money back on that.
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Didn't realise the mi mix had good dev support, how much it cost you?
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Didn't realise the mi mix had good dev support, how much it cost you?
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£340 shipping from HK to UK.
Gearbest.com
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£340 shipping from HK to UK.
Gearbest.com
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Oof be careful you don't get hit with import fee's
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Oof be careful you don't get hit with import fee's
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Even if I do, it's never as bad as people make out. Like £20 max.
Bought a Mi5 before from a similar company and it was minimal.
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Even if I do, it's never as bad as people make out. Like £20 max.
Bought a Mi5 before from a similar company and it was minimal.
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I got hit with £90 for importing the essential phone so it can be more than you think.
If you want to sell, I'd recommend CEX they offer a decent price for it.
But the person above is correct, you can easily get them around £350 - £400 brand new or brand new condition.
Otherwise try your luck on gumtree, but be safe out there. I've been burned in the past using them.
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Give it a little time till the official android 8.1 update comes out
The main reason to why the community has been dry is because project treble has not yet been officially released and since the 8.1 preview, things are looking good.
Be patient a little and we will see.
I can't give it any more time. I'm literally having more fun right now messing around with my old Xiaomi Mi 5!
New phone on it's way and happy to sell this for £300/£350.
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I can't give it any more time. I'm literally having more fun right now messing around with my old Xiaomi Mi 5!
New phone on it's way and happy to sell this for £300/£350.
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Thats up to you bro. Thats what i would do because you can go back to oneplus anyways. I would wait.
It's a shame as this best phone out, but reading all the issues about hardware fails and bad camera, no wireless charging, no ROMs, etc etc. I'm sticking with my Moto z (and that has similar lack of support!). And believe me I really wanted to ditch and get a Razer, but I just couldn't justify it!
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I was also head over when this phone was announced and released. Am glad I took my time because the lack of development support would have driven me nuts!. Price wise these are definitely falling. There was an offer recently if I remember correctly when mobiles.co were selling the phone on a £30 a month contract with 30gb of data a month! That was cheap but perhaps a reflection of the falling demand and prices.
I just bought a used one! It'll be here probably Wednesday or Thursday.
Think I will be selling mine in a week or so, I can't handle not having even one ROM to play with, can't believe the lack of development I thought this would have had developers all over this to test and enhance this powerful and exciting device. Its a sad day for all razer phone owners. P. S I do respect developers and time and effort they put into creating the roms and mods respect to all
Food for Thought perhaps...
my previous five phones have been Sony I've loved them, my last Sony the xz1 performed abysmally such that I jumped ship for the Razor with its enhanced screen capabilities and superior RAM architecture.
So I just recently purchased the Sony xz2 for my girlfriend which has the 845 processor I believe.
In a nutshell having used the Razor and then playing with this new xz2 I was shocked at how backward that xz2 felt compared to the blistering fast experience that I'm experiencing on our razor.
The xz2 felt sluggish in direct comparison.
Therefore leaving me with a very sweet taste in hanging on to the Razer.
The 835 cpu, 8gb DDR4 RAM with the 120Hz screen.
Honestly no phone out there today reacts and loads quicker then the Razer.
But I hear and do appreciate there are some compromises with the Razer.
But the good far outweigh the bad in my circumstance.
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Food for Thought perhaps...
my previous five phones have been Sony I've loved them, my last Sony the xz1 performed abysmally such that I jumped ship for the Razor with its enhanced screen capabilities and superior RAM architecture.
So I just recently purchased the Sony xz2 for my girlfriend which has the 845 processor I believe.
In a nutshell having used the Razor and then playing with this new xz2 I was shocked at how backward that xz2 felt compared to the blistering fast experience that I'm experiencing on our razor.
The xz2 felt sluggish in direct comparison.
Therefore leaving me with a very sweet taste in hanging on to the Razer.
The 835 cpu, 8gb DDR4 RAM with the 120Hz screen.
Honestly no phone out there today reacts and loads quicker then the Razer.
But I hear and do appreciate there are some compromises with the Razer.
But the good far outweigh the bad in my circumstance.
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The problem is.... I LOVE the ROM flashing scene. I love tinkering with the OS and getting a feel for different ROMs and their features. Completely baron in here unfortunately and it is for that reason almost entirely that I gave up.
I get bored with phones too quick. Flashing new ROMs always breathes little doses of fresh air back in to them and keeps you interested. Depending on who you are of course.