After September 30th. This is getting crazy
pego99 said:
After September 30th. This is getting crazy
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Who said that?
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jackdforme said:
Who said that?
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/10/samsung-galaxy-note-7-deactivated/
I have read this in a few places tonight. WTF
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anything to help Apple
No chance big red will give us anything
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jackdforme said:
Who said that?
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/10/samsung-galaxy-note-7-deactivated/
I have read this in a few places tonight. WTF
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This is actually great news. It kills the second-hand market for unscrupulous sellers to sell potentially dangerous devices that could result in injuries or property damage. It's both morally-responsible and a protective measure by Samsung to reduce liability exposure. Now people are forced to return their old phones unless they want a $900 wifi device.
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After reading this article it is Samsung, not Verizon, doing this deactivation. Is that even possible? Is it normal for device manufacturers to be able to reach out and brick all of their devices? Because just shutting down the radio portion of the phone ain't gonna stop people from using it on WiFi and charging them. They must brick them. Never heard of such a thing before...:good:
If I choose to not get a recall in my car, can Ford shut me down legally? Is that good? Being careful what we wish for to be legal and good has a funny way of becoming the norm across every aspect of our lives....
I think this is a feign.....
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After reading this article it is Samsung, not Verizon, doing this deactivation. Is that even possible? Is it normal for device manufacturers to be able to reach out and brick all of their devices?
Never heard of such a thing before...:good:
If I choose to not get a recall in my car, can Ford shut me down legally? Is that good?
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In the case of stolen phones, it's usually it's the carriers who report lists of stolen IMEIs to GSMA so that they can deny service for a device with a bad IMEI. I don't think it will necessarily brick your device, just turn it into a wifi-only device if it's not locked some other way.
In the Note 7 case, given that potentially lives and property damage are at risk, it's certainly possible that Samsung can provide a list of all IMEIs to GSMA produced before their fixed batches and have them deactivate them en masse. Especially if this is done in conjunction with the CSPC.
Depending on which side of the fence you sit on with respect to personal accountability it could be a good or bad thing. Personally, I think this is a good thing and morally-responsible as I mentioned above. There is really no point in continuing to use a potential time bomb when you can easily return the phone (and if you're a poor soul who brought it second-hand or via eBay, Swappa, etc., its a life-lesson). In litigation-crazy American society where people are not accountable for their personal well-being and can sue at will, Samsung really has no choice but to resort to the nuclear option to protect themselves against liability, or in this case "acts of darwinism." In your example, Ford probably can't legally shut you down but I'm sure they would have clauses in their recall notices indemnifying them in case some owners refuse to fix their cars (withing a certain time frame) and kill themselves and others as well, esp. if the recalls are in conjunction with the Feds.
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In your example, Ford probably can't legally shut you down
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Thank you. If you take out probably, I totally agree. This is why the unsubstantiated link above, which references nothing but their own speculation, appears to be a feign. Right or wrong, good or bad, certainly smells like a feign dipped in rumor.
Sure, get the phone replaced. But a global brick wall? I don't buy it... Anything less than a total brick job will not suffice.
This is a rumor, take with a big grain of salt. Just another he said, she said hearsay from misinformed people.
Reddit source and journalism at its finest.
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Not going to happen for obvious reasons. It's just a report from some guy in France that nobody's heard of.
At this point that would make sense!
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pego99 said:
This is actually great news. It kills the second-hand market for unscrupulous sellers to sell potentially dangerous devices that could result in injuries or property damage. It's both morally-responsible and a protective measure by Samsung to reduce liability exposure. Now people are forced to return their old phones unless they want a $900 wifi device.
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Only and only if they have a brand new revised model waiting for me. Otherwise this is not okay.
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pego99 said:
This is actually great news. It kills the second-hand market for unscrupulous sellers to sell potentially dangerous devices that could result in injuries or property damage. It's both morally-responsible and a protective measure by Samsung to reduce liability exposure. Now people are forced to return their old phones unless they want a $900 wifi device.
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I can't believe the great news guy. Must be a Democrat lover of big gubment. Bla bla bla.
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I can't believe the great news guy. Must be a Democrat lover of big gubment. Bla bla bla.
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Pretty sad if you think politics is involved in this. If you were still using a potentially defective phone and it burned down your house and you were the only one in it, then it's purely your fault and only affects you. In which case I couldn't give a crap as that's your typical "act of darwinism." But if my 3-year old and wife were next door and the fire crossed into my house and they got hurt then yes I would give a crap and it is someone else's problem. I would be asking myself WTF was that idiot still using the phone after a recall has been issued and why was he even allowed to keep it.
You need to re-prioritize your life if keeping and using a damn phone that's been recalled is really that important to you (instead of just getting a refund to switch to another phone or buy a replacement) or if you seriously think politics plays a role in this.
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In other news....guess his family wished they would've returned the phone or that it was bricked...
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-new-york-injures-6-year-old-boy
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I just got a firmware update from Verizon that tells you if you have a defective battery Note 7. Now it notifies me to power down
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pego99 said:
Pretty sad if you think politics is involved in this. If you were still using a potentially defective phone and it burned down your house and you were the only one in it, then it's purely your fault and only affects you. In which case I couldn't give a crap as that's your typical "act of darwinism." But if my 3-year old and wife were next door and the fire crossed into my house and they got hurt then yes I would give a crap and it is someone else's problem. I would be asking myself WTF was that idiot still using the phone after a recall has been issued and why was he even allowed to keep it.
You need to re-prioritize your life if keeping and using a damn phone that's been recalled is really that important to you (instead of just getting a refund to switch to another phone or buy a replacement) or if you seriously think politics plays a role in this.
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In other news....guess his family wished they would've returned the phone or that it was bricked...
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-new-york-injures-6-year-old-boy
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They updated their blog, this incident was a completely unrelated event with a Galaxy Core Prime.
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See if your battery icon in the notification area is green you have device with a good battery if it's white you still have the defective one. So this what they may have been referring to
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No kidding? How is this possible? I meant, is this just a concept or Apple did have implementation already?
I dont quite understand the patent sytem in the US, but you can patent an idea, right?
Why cant Google and Samsung or HTC or hundreds of other manufacturers could not think anything like this?
This will make our GN more awesome! Instead of us now searching extended battery for the GN GSM model.
I meant, we still even fragmented on accesories level!
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...needing-recharge/story-e6frfku0-1226230442242
patents are just ideas and apple is not the first with this one just the first to patent it . Also you will nit see this in real life for years its just an idea
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I highly doubt that will happen as you would need to refill the cells with hydrogen when it finishes discharging. It would definitely mean pricier devices/upkeep.
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You won't see this in the next 25 years.
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You won't see this in the next 25 years.
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I won't put dates on it.. but this kind of technology would be seen in laptops long before it arrives on a phone..
That's why ideas should not have patents. If you can't even produce a prototype why should you be granted rights to it
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I won't put dates on it.. but this kind of technology would be seen in laptops long before it arrives on a phone..
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Well I'm not saying that exactly 25 years from now we'll have this. But I think its important to understand that we won't see any technology like this in a long, long time.
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That's why ideas should not have patents. If you can't even produce a prototype why should you be granted rights to it
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Reminds me of a report I read recently about why the patent system is in such a mess, in particular in the USA.
You may well be correct, but as it stands, there is a lot of $$$"s to be made patenting ideas and later taking legal action against companies/people that use a similar idea.
If this is just an idea, and can be patented, that is just unfair, no?
So basically, I can simply sleep to dream something and patent it .. Like I will patent Water Fueled Battery ... Or Oxygen Cell Battery .. And draw something imaginary equipment.
Is that it?
My goodness me ...
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If this is just an idea, and can be patented, that is just unfair, no?
So basically, I can simply sleep to dream something and patent it .. Like I will patent Water Fueled Battery ... Or Oxygen Cell Battery .. And draw something imaginary equipment.
Is that it?
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.. about right problem is however, the water fueled battery is probably already patented
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No kidding? How is this possible? I meant, is this just a concept or Apple did have implementation already?
I dont quite understand the patent sytem in the US, but you can patent an idea, right?
Why cant Google and Samsung or HTC or hundreds of other manufacturers could not think anything like this?
This will make our GN more awesome! Instead of us now searching extended battery for the GN GSM model.
I meant, we still even fragmented on accesories level!
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...needing-recharge/story-e6frfku0-1226230442242
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A patent is not as much an idea as it is a method or procedure to achieve an objective. Others can apply for patents on hydrogen fuel cells in mobile devices as long as there is a material difference in the method or procedure in which the objective is obtained by contrast to what Apple is filing. And while Apple may have filed these claims, there is no guarantee they will be approved. We do not know who else has filed similar applications before Apple a.k.a. prior art or whether or not Apple's claims are too broad/obvious.
Just a PR stunt, get over it. Good time to publish "news" like this as it's otherwise relatively quiet on the news front.
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A patent is not as much an idea as it is a method or procedure to achieve an objective. Others can apply for patents on hydrogen fuel cells in mobile devices as long as there is a material difference in the method or procedure in which the objective is obtained by contrast to what Apple is filing. And while Apple may have filed these claims, there is no guarantee they will be approved. We do not know who else has filed similar applications before Apple a.k.a. prior art or whether or not Apple's claims are too broad/obvious.
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Most of the people lost the clue what patents really are for.
Imagine if the light bulb wasn't invented till tomorrow and apple would hold a patent for glass object that produces light (put more complex description if you wish) before It was actually produced by someone. Who should really hold the patent here?
Apple or person that made the lightbulb?
If you can't implement your idea in real life and just have it on the paper you should not have rights to it.
How many theories were wrong on the paper? Make it happen get a prototype or something....
Plain piece of paper with a description of how something is going to work or explaining the purpose is not going to change our lives... I fair enough it speeds up the invention cos people have to work around it but still its not fair...
Same goes to design patents... If something is common as a frigging loaf of bread it should not be patented... Aka design of portable device with a touch screen and a button (or not)
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Its all fun and games until this happens:
800-APL-CARE
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Hydrogen cell != hydrogen bomb
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gogol said:
No kidding? How is this possible? I meant, is this just a concept or Apple did have implementation already?
I dont quite understand the patent sytem in the US, but you can patent an idea, right?
Why cant Google and Samsung or HTC or hundreds of other manufacturers could not think anything like this?
This will make our GN more awesome! Instead of us now searching extended battery for the GN GSM model.
I meant, we still even fragmented on accesories level!
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...needing-recharge/story-e6frfku0-1226230442242
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In the USA you can patent ridiculous things, and then sue everyones ass for it too.
If you walk on the street, and trip on a rock, you can probably sue the company that made the sidewalk.. no joke
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In the USA you can patent ridiculous things, and then sue everyones ass for it too.
If you walk on the street, and trip on a rock, you can probably sue the company that made the sidewalk.. no joke
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Lol.
Even now we can find reports of phones heating up and exploding... Imagine what would happen with a hydrogen cell
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deeren said:
Lol.
Even now we can find reports of phones heating up and exploding... Imagine what would happen with a hydrogen cell
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I bet they aren't really trying to push it out to the market, but rather do a lot of testing first.
We won't see this in phone until at least 2020. Even that's an early date.
I have no idea how this would ever work is it would need hydrogen input at every charge and also expel water when using power.
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Just a PR stunt, get over it. Good time to publish "news" like this as it's otherwise relatively quiet on the news front.
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Exactly.
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I have no idea how this would ever work is it would need hydrogen input at every charge and also expel water when using power.
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The idea has been around for longer than I can remember, but yeah implementation just isn't practical right now. I mean the big car companies haven't been able to make it anywhere near practical or economical for cars yet, so scaling to something like a phone is a long long way off.
I also find it funny how they propel these ideas as if they are going to save us from the mass energy problem we have. You still need to 'charge' these cells - all they are is a clean storage mechanism. You still need to generate the energy somehow - so that paragraph in that news story from the patent just makes me laugh.
If anyone is still under any illusion this is going to happen 'soon' read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_vehicle#Fuel_cell
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
Well your arguments don't sound like the most rational ones out there, but I too think it's a good investment if you can wait atleast for a year or two before selling .
I'm also thinking of buying some And hopefully it will go quite well
I too bought 400 shares as I think in a year or two I'll make a decent return on my investment. I don't see Nokia going away as Microsoft has put a lot of cash in them in hopes of bringing WP7 up to #3. I bought as a long term investment for sure, so time will tell. Good luck to you also, we'll see if we made a good move!
By the way, best advise I can give you is, don't watch the stock daily, let it ride as someone said above, it will take quite some time before it starts to move in a positive direction. Just let it be and wait until WP8 comes out and gets established.you'll drive yourself nuts watching it right now!
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I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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Based purely on your post I would have to say "yes."
This is facebook 2.0. I LOVE my Lumia 900. But I also realize Betamax was better than VHS. VHS won. It is not just a matter of having a superior product that I like. You also have to market it.
I can't believe sheeple are still paying $200 for an outdated iphone with no LTE and a 3.5 inch screen. If you want a free contract iphone you will have to make due with the iphone 3gs. That's insane. The iphone 4s is already dated. And people are picking up a phone 3 generations older for the same price as I got a Lumia 900. That is the market place Nokia is playing in. So no I do not believe their success no matter how much I LOVE their product is assured.
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I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.
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Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.
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^This
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^This
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Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.
The stock hasn't bottomed out yet. Nokia also mentioned they're likely to face more quarters of operating at a lost, and the smartphone business is only part of their business.
Nokia has also been downgraded to junk status, as no one believes that they will be able to repay their loans.
I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower. I'm holding out until right before the major launches.
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[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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You already have your answer before you posted this. See these key words in you post: "believer", "I really think", "they will be". These types of words should never be associated with any financial transactions.
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^This
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Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.
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This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...
That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.
With Nokia value approaching net value of its patent portfolio and cash on hand, this seems like the time to buy if you believe in NOK's upside.
The downside risks are:
They burn all cash while in recovery mode and go bankrupt
WP7 doesn't increase sales to return them to future relevance
My take is that the cash issue is a non-issue. Even with their credit rating as junk, intuition says that NOK will have free access to cheap cash loans from someone with lots of cash and a vested interest in their success: Microsoft
The WP7 upshot is the big question mark, but the grass roots indicators are telling me that WP7 will be that catalyst, given time. Since time = money for NOK and MSFT has the money, this seems non-issue, as well.
The "doomsday" scenario is if NOK's market cap goes so cheap as to make a hostile acquisition enticing. Then you could see IP desperate Google or another maker stepping in to try to eat them up. In that case, I don't think MSFT would let that happen, either. Net-net of this scenario is that NOK's value gets run up in a bidding war, which I don't think MSFT would let be lost.
Either way, as a long term hold, NOK seems cheap.
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This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...
That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.
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+1
there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.
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+1
there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.
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No one is saying NOK is safe - far from it. But if you are looking at a long term bet with big upside due to ambiguity, there are worse bets.
I bought $2K of NOK a few weeks ago knowing full well it could be zero. I considered it like buying a lotto ticket, fully understand it could be worth nothing or that NOK could be at $10+ in a year.
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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I considered it like buying a lotto ticket...
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I don't think that contradicts anything we just said.
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What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
pLUSpISTOL said:
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.
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You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
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Now don't I just look stupid haha
It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out!
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Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.
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Thank you. Any tips you guys have as I get started would be great.
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You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
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Now don't I just look stupid haha
It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out!
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I couldn't resist.
Over here in the US if all you want to do is trade stocks E*trade or Ameritrade are okay. I heard Fidelity is good as well. Choose a reputable firm and then see what pricing is like for your trading strategy. Your choice of broker will definitely vary depending on how often you trade.
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I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower.
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If you believe that why don't you sell short?
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So I decided to write a complaint about Samsung to the BBB.
To make a really long story short. I received a GN with bad color. Had to fix myself and a month later after having it, it just died! Sent in for repair. I was told it would be repaired by June 27 and then shipped out. Received a email today stating "Please be advised that your Samsung service ticket [4115*****] has been placed on a temporary hold due to an unavailable part.
As soon as the part becomes available, your device will be repaired and shipped promptly"
I called Samsung AGAIN and they won't do ****.
So I am complaining and won't be a customer of Samsung again. WOW!!
Any success with this route? Trying to get a refund, don't want their crap back!
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So I decided to write a complaint about Samsung to the BBB.
To make a really long story short. I received a GN with bad color. Had to fix myself and a month later after having it, it just died! Sent in for repair. I was told it would be repaired by June 27 and then shipped out. Received a email today stating "Please be advised that your Samsung service ticket [4115*****] has been placed on a temporary hold due to an unavailable part.
As soon as the part becomes available, your device will be repaired and shipped promptly"
I called Samsung AGAIN and they won't do ****.
So I am complaining and won't be a customer of Samsung again. WOW!!
Any success with this route? Trying to get a refund, don't want their crap back!
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Sorry to hear that but calling BBB won't do nothing to be honest.
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Small claims court is the only route for genuine recourse against large companies if you can't afford fancy lawyers...
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If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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Someone's exceedingly rude? I personally NEVER have any difficulties with any Samsung products.
brmayhem said:
If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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Thanks, looks like I will have no choice but had to do SOMETHING, too bad this is how America does things. The consumers are always caught on the **** end of the stick. I won't ever! buy another Samsung product, I said that after the Vibrant, but $399 was too good to pass up, and now I know why. I still like Android, but I am seriously considering IOS now....
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If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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Someone's exceedingly rude? I personally NEVER have any difficulties with any Samsung products.
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No... brmayhem is spot on. Samsung sucks and they don't care about their customers at all. They spent so much energy ripping off Apple, but they missed Apple's strongest and most redeeming quality: Their customer service.
Samsung blows. Nothing you do will ever get through to them. All you can do is use a different phone, use the repaired Nexus and flash a kernel like Trinity to fix the color issues, and wait until December and hope the next Nexus device is manufactured by a different company.
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No... brmayhem is spot on. Samsung sucks and they don't care about their customers at all. They spent so much energy ripping off Apple, but they missed Apple's strongest and most redeeming quality: Their customer service.
Samsung blows. Nothing you do will ever get through to them. All you can do is use a different phone, use the repaired Nexus and flash a kernel like Trinity to fix the color issues, and wait until December and hope the next Nexus device is manufactured by a different company.
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How would they spend so much money "ripping off Apple?" They've had these designs WAY before Apple iOS with BadaOS. Get your facts straight.
So much Samsung hatred and trolling happening in this thread.
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How would they spend so much money "ripping off Apple?" They've had these designs WAY before Apple iOS with BadaOS. Get your facts straight.
So much Samsung hatred and trolling happening in this thread.
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1: I said they spent a lot of ENERGY... not money
2: Don't start this. It's well known, well documented, and spread all over the internet that Touchwiz had some design elements that were direct rip-offs of iOS. Even the faux-metal band around the Galaxy phones were a nod to the first three iPhones.
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How would they spend so much money "ripping off Apple?" They've had these designs WAY before Apple iOS with BadaOS. Get your facts straight.
So much Samsung hatred and trolling happening in this thread.
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And who are these Defenders of Samsung? Some kind of SHIELD program? Can't those who get faulty devices do something or say something about it? Looks like you are the troll man....
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1: I said they spent a lot of ENERGY... not money
2: Don't start this. It's well known, well documented, and spread all over the internet that Touchwiz had some design elements that were direct rip-offs of iOS. Even the faux-metal band around the Galaxy phones were a nod to the first three iPhones.
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How come the Iphone on the right looks a little different?
Most large companies do not care about customers. They care about profits. Apple is no exception. People think because customer service slaps on a pretty face and a smile that the company cares.
Simply not true. I can remove the word Samsung on the above hate-filled rants and it would be true.
Ford...Chevrolet...Apple...HP....Dell...Sony... the list is a mile long.
People say stuff like this all the time, but people on the other end are human beings too. Your own presentation goes a long way in getting things done. If you are difficult, they will be difficult too. If you are a douche...guess what? So are they.
I can give you a TON of HP customer service nitemares on the internet. I can even relate to the OP with my own computer with HP. I could surrender and fling my hands up in the air and say they wouldn't help me. Instead I stayed firm, yet civil and respectful.
End result? My computer which kept being postponed for repair due to part shortage was actually replaced with a brand new machine. The cost? Me being a human being and not an animal.
I am not saying the OP is, but it is hard to see how you really are acting by looking in the mirror. Have a neutral party hang out with you when you call Samsung sometime and see if maybe your attitude is less than appropriate.
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1: I said they spent a lot of ENERGY... not money
2: Don't start this. It's well known, well documented, and spread all over the internet that Touchwiz had some design elements that were direct rip-offs of iOS. Even the faux-metal band around the Galaxy phones were a nod to the first three iPhones.
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We going there? Should we talk about the ripoffs Apple did to Google?
I guess that is OK though, because its Apple. They can do no wrong.
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How come the Iphone on the right looks a little different?
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lol I don't even know why people use that picture at all..... it fully circumvents the idea of Android's DESKTOP and 5 homescreens (or whatever you set it to based on your launcher). its a very misleading picture, not to mention Apple photoshopped one of the pictures to make it seem like they're both of same height
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
+1 to what adrynalyne said... Apple's Notification System is VERY much like Android.
But in the end, iOS and Android have been getting ideas from each other. Non-stop, that is what competition is all about.
Notification System, Multi-tasking, etc.
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lol I don't even know why people use that picture at all..... it fully circumvents the idea of Android's DESKTOP and 5 homescreens (or whatever you set it to based on your launcher). its a very misleading picture, not to mention Apple photoshopped one of the pictures to make it seem like they're both of same height
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
+1 to what adrynalyne said... Apple's Notification System is VERY much like Android.
But in the end, iOS and Android have been getting ideas from each other. Non-stop, that is what competition is all about.
Notification System, Multi-tasking, etc.
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Wow, they sure did chop that. I never really followed, but that is funny.
adrynalyne said:
Wow, they sure did chop that. I never really followed, but that is funny.
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http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/13/what-did-apple-copy-from-android-and-windows-phone-in-ios-6/
Some more additions... especially with Call-Message reply and the do-not-disturb feature. Hello Ice Cream Sandwich?
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We going there? Should we talk about the ripoffs Apple did to Google?
I guess that is OK though, because its Apple. They can do no wrong.
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We're not "going there". I'm simply using the image to support my assertion that Samsung wasted a lot of time and energy copying Apple's design but didn't copy their excellent customer service and warranty.
That's where it ends really. I'm not here because I want to defend Apple. I like tech/gadgets/consumer electronics. I'm not an Apple fanboy, nor am I an Android fanboy; I'm just a techie - a fanboy of all electronics - and I have had nothing but terrible experiences with Samsung products.
There's an obvious difference between bringing a defective device into a store and having it replaced on the spot, and calling a call center across the world to make arrangements to ship it out (paying the shipping yourself), waiting a week or two (maybe longer) and getting the same device back with the same issues.
...and yet I own a Series 5 550 and a Galaxy Nexus. I bought them and use them every day because they run the Google operating systems I want to use. There is no brand loyalty here...
jmattp said:
We're not "going there". I'm simply using the image to support my assertion that Samsung wasted a lot of time and energy copying Apple's design but didn't copy their excellent customer service and warranty.
That's where it ends really. I'm not here because I want to defend Apple. I like tech/gadgets/consumer electronics. I'm not an Apple fanboy, nor am I an Android fanboy; I'm just a techie - a fanboy of all electronics - and I have had nothing but terrible experiences with Samsung products.
There's an obvious difference between bringing a defective device into a store and having it replaced on the spot, and calling a call center across the world to make arrangements to ship it out (paying the shipping yourself), waiting a week or two (maybe longer) and getting the same device back with the same issues.
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In what context are you saying that Samsung copied Apple's design? since this is the "Galaxy Nexus forum." If you're implying that Samsung copied their design for TouchWiz, I don't see any TouchWiz being featured on stock Galaxy Nexus.
I think most of us are simply having the problem that you're straight up bashing the company in a inappropriate manner regardless of how "angry" you may be. It's kind of unacceptable to be swearing and pointing fingers directly at Samsung because I haven't had a bad experience with their customer service at all.
If you're having phone defects, you should deal with Verizon first. My Galaxy Nexus is from Negri Electronics (third party vendor) and they offer great customer service as well as Expansys. So I can't comment on Verizon.
zephiK said:
In what context are you saying that Samsung copied Apple's design? since this is the "Galaxy Nexus forum." If you're implying that Samsung copied their design for TouchWiz, I don't see any TouchWiz being featured on stock Galaxy Nexus.
I think most of us are simply having the problem that you're straight up bashing the company in a inappropriate manner regardless of how "angry" you may be. It's kind of unacceptable to be swearing and pointing fingers directly at Samsung because I haven't had a bad experience with their customer service at all.
If you're having phone defects, you should deal with Verizon first. My Galaxy Nexus is from Negri Electronics (third party vendor) and they offer great customer service as well as Expansys. So I can't comment on Verizon.
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Swearing? Really?
I've explained my comment twice already.
Only customers who purchase the phone subsidized through Verizon can get a refurbished unit as a replacement if there is a problem with the device after the 14-day grace period. If you buy the phone used, you have to go through Samsung.
Also, getting several replacements in a row with the same defect is defeating and really says something about a company.
Please remove yourself from Samsung's ****.
Aw gee whiz, Beav... sorry for swearing again!
jmattp said:
Swearing? Really?
I've explained my comment twice already.
Only customers who purchase the phone subsidized through Verizon can get a refurbished unit as a replacement if there is a problem with the device after the 14-day grace period. If you buy the phone used, you have to go through Samsung.
Also, getting several replacements in a row with the same defect is defeating and really says something about a company.
Please remove yourself from Samsung's ****.
Aw gee whiz, Beav... sorry for swearing again!
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That sounds like a personal problem with your carrier (or the store you've purchased it from), not the manufacturer of the phone. Yeah, there are defective units out on the market... but your carrier is the one who made the policy on 'refurbished units' as replacements.
This thread isn't really going anywhere. So I'll stop here and a mod will most likely close this thread soon. Good luck! Enjoy your jelly bean in the next coming days
Can't wait for Nexus 4
So we have pictures of a box with a safe "black square" indicator on it and an overheated Note7 on the floor in the aisle of a Southwest flight that was pushing back from gate at Baltimore. Before the OMG! crowd hits, with the U.S. CPC involved, we'll get some tangible information soon. If in fact the phone on the floor is a "safe" Note7 and it overheated Samsung's screwed. If there's more to the story (EG: the phone in fact wasn't a replacement) we'll find that out soon. Until then the glass half full people can assume there's more at play than the story indicated and the glass half empty people can work themselves up in to a frenzy with scant information to go by.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/1...te-7-fire-replacement-plane-battery-southwest
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So we have pictures of a box with a safe "black square" indicator on it and an overheated Note7 on the floor in the aisle of a Southwest flight that was pushing back from gate at Baltimore. Before the OMG! crowd hits, with the U.S. CPC involved, we'll get some tangible information soon. If in fact the phone on the floor is a "safe" Note7 and it overheated Samsung's screwed. If there's more to the story (EG: the phone in fact wasn't a replacement) we'll find that out soon. Until then the glass half full people can assume there's more at play than the story indicated and the glass half empty people can work themselves up in to a frenzy with scant information to go by.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/1...te-7-fire-replacement-plane-battery-southwest
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I just had an argument on Google + with someone going crazy. I was trying to say "wait for all the facts". But yeah, if it's true I'd say the Note 7 is finished.
The owner of the device said it was a replacement that he got on sept 21 and that it had the green battery icon meaning its a safe device
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If its true that this was a new device, it might be the end of the note 7, im still using my original note 7 as my local store hasnt recieved and new devices
bayniner said:
The owner of the device said it was a replacement that he got on sept 21 and that it had the green battery icon meaning its a safe device
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Yep. That's what he said. If it's true it'll be corroborated soon. If it's false we'll know that even sooner. The difference between true and false means $1B or more to Samsung so I'm sure they are all over this in droves.
I just added a topic yesterday asking if it's safe to get it ! Today i read this article !
I guess that i shall stick to the S7 Edge i have, and pass the Note this year, very risky to get the device
BarryH_GEG said:
Yep. That's what he said. If it's true it'll be corroborated soon. If it's false we'll know that even sooner. The difference between true and false means $1B or more to Samsung so I'm sure they are all over this in droves.
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Problem is, if this is a one off natural battery fire fluke (like you see with a lot of phones) it won't matter. The Note 7 will still be finished by the fall out as the media will go crazy (they already are).
Great on the day tmobile resumes sales.
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I wonder if this could kill off the Note 7 completely? This feels almost unreal - like a set-up by a competitor. I have never felt like all the accurate info on this has been given to us since everything unfolded with battery-gate.
Was about to go drop 850$ on a new one at t mobile today. Damnit this is he best android phone out now. But if it's not safe I might wait the the LG v20
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Was about to go drop 850$ on a new one at t mobile today. Damnit this is he best android phone out now. But if it's not safe I might wait the the LG v20
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I hope they hurry up and find the truth so I can cancel my pre order if it's true.
LETS WAIT AND SEE BEFORE WE GET OUR KNICKERS IN A TWIST.
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As a glass half full person I accepted that .01% of the pre-replacement Note7's had the potential to overheat. I was perfectly willing to keep my original phone for months waiting until I nicked or scratched it to turn it in for replacement. The only reason I exchanged it early is the stupid nag screen Samsung pushed out via a non-preventable update. Of the initial 90ish reported incidents 30ish of those later turned out to be proven false or the claimants failed to participate in any type of investigation which can be taken as false claims also. How big a risk this is/was is up to personal interpretation. Here's a pic of the Note7 on the floor of the Southwest plane after it overheated.
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It looks like all the other pics of overheated Note7's I've seen. In all of those pics none of the phones got hot enough to melt the plastic parts like the home button which is an inch away from the battery. Plastic melts at 145 degrees which is less than the 160 degrees poultry needs to be cooked to in order to be eaten safely. If this situation happened to a second tier brand like Oppo, OnePlus, or leEco it wouldn't have even made front page news. Because Samsung's a gigantic market-leading powerhouse it not only made the front page but stayed their forever because of the click-bait value.
I'd be surprised if we didn't officially hear more about this particular incident by mid-day tomorrow.
teegunn said:
I wonder if this could kill off the Note 7 completely? This feels almost unreal - like a set-up by a competitor. I have never felt like all the accurate info on this has been given to us since everything unfolded with battery-gate.
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Funny, I thought I was the only person thinking conspiracy!
I find it odd that a lot of these users with issues claimed they've switched to iphone right after the incident. I mean, why would one switches an entire ecosystem just because an Android phone (Note 7 in this case) catches fire? Wouldn't most of them switch to ANOTHER Android device?
BarryH_GEG said:
Yep. That's what he said. If it's true it'll be corroborated soon. If it's false we'll know that even sooner. The difference between true and false means $1B or more to Samsung so I'm sure they are all over this in droves.
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I see no reason for him to lie but the truth will come out, hopefully it was an old device and not a new "safe" one, this is my first note device and i love it. Would hate to have to switch to something else
BarryH_GEG said:
As a glass half full person I accepted that .01% of the pre-replacement Note7's had the potential to overheat. I was perfectly willing to keep my original phone for months waiting until I nicked or scratched it to turn it in for replacement. The only reason I exchanged it early is the stupid nag screen Samsung pushed out via a non-preventable update. Of the initial 90ish reported incidents 30ish of those later turned out to be proven false or the claimants failed to participate in any type of investigation which can be taken as false claims also. How big a risk this is/was is up to personal interpretation. Here's a pic of the Note7 on the floor of the Southwest plane after it overheated.
It looks like all the other pics of overheated Note7's I've seen. In all of those pics none of the phones got hot enough to melt the plastic parts like the home button which is an inch away from the battery. Plastic melts at 145 degrees which is less than the 160 degrees poultry needs to be cooked to in order to be eaten safely. If this situation happened to a second tier brand like Oppo, OnePlus, or leEco it wouldn't have even made front page news. Because Samsung's a gigantic market-leading powerhouse it not only made the front page but stayed their forever because of the click-bait value.
I'd be surprised if we didn't officially hear more about this particular incident by mid-day tomorrow.
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I'm going on 2, 25 hour flights in a month. I'm not entirely sure I'd feel confident taking a replaced Note 7 with me. The picture certainly looks like a battery failure, it's in the same location as all the others. If and it's a big "If" this is real and it's the same problem, its a gigantic issue for Samsung. Do they pull the whole Note 7 lineup and call it a day for this year? Of course, this guy could be trying something on.
Samsung should have just gone with the replaceable battery in the first place. Not doing so has cost them Billions. Many Billions.
Who carries their box around?
teegunn said:
I wonder if this could kill off the Note 7 completely? This feels almost unreal - like a set-up by a competitor. I have never felt like all the accurate info on this has been given to us since everything unfolded with battery-gate.
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How do this get a picture of the box? if he got the new phone one 9/21... why the heck did he carry his card box with the imei and black square...
Sounds a little fishy to me
Yep. Note 7 is gg wp.
Conspiracy or not, it's working.
But this said, I also find this claim a little "too corny".
The guy is on a plane, (last place you'd want a smartphone to explode). He turned off the Phone. It's an exchanged phone. And STILL it exploded.
This is like Apple's dream. If they'd "staged" it, they couldn't do any better.
There's a serious war here gentlemen.
Also it's insteresting that these phones only explode in the US or China. (All other countries were proven as hoax).
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How do this get a picture of the box? if he got the new phone one 9/21... why the heck did he carry his card box with the imei and black square...
Sounds a little fishy to me
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Maybe because he was travelling by plane and to prove he had a new replacement N7 after the recall. But yeah - this all sounds a little fishy and these articles all seem to jump right into iPhone, iPhone, iPhone go get one now (!) type of thing. Feels forced.
BarryH_GEG said:
Yep. That's what he said. If it's true it'll be corroborated soon. If it's false we'll know that even sooner. The difference between true and false means $1B or more to Samsung so I'm sure they are all over this in droves.
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Yes, that is what he said, and it may be true but does seem tad odd that since this happened the morning, he had time to:
- deal with the airport/airline staff after the incident (answer questions, etc.)
- go buy a new iphone (gratuitously added in the article)
- get the original Note 7 box
- get interviewed by the Verge
...All in time for the 1:15 story.
It also seems the timing of the incident was too perfect. It happened in that narrow window while the plane was in the gate. If it happened before, it would be a lot less dramatic, if it happened after take-off, it would have been too dramatic.
All possible, but kinda makes you say hmmmmm...
I have a "fixed" Note 7 and I understand I have to turn it in but I want to wait as long as I can. I know I seen on here a way to block OTA updates. Something about freezing system apps? I wan't to block any battery crippling updates Samsung puts out. I just want to wait to see if I can make it till S8 comes out.
It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Four? Or all 7?
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Four? Or all 7?
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You can do all seven but the bottom for is the main one you want to disable.
I am on Verizon and do not have some of the ones that you are showing that are checked in Package Disabler Pro. Anyone on Verizon have these to disable future updates?
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It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
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This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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Yes no more updates ever...
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I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
also install a firewall just in case.
its far fetched to think samy could have their system apps pass on/tunnel your personal data via other innocent apps (im definitely sure google is doing it to ensure they gather as much data from us as possible). if I'm wrong, at least a firewall saves you on wireless 4g data charges
This is the only thing we can do if we want to keep the phone, if it goes through then it will force the keepers to switch if it doesn't we'll see how long we can last without updated/support.
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I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
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are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
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are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
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Yes I did. Had the note 5 remember?
It was crazy scary, especially when the phone turned blue and AT&T logo popped out without a warning.
It was doing something for nearly 10-20 minutes with a bar on the bottom of the screen (so I knew it was doing something).
it was in recovery mode and did not have the running android logo (like updates usually do).
I was worried to turn it off cause I did not want my phone to be bricked. When it turned back on I got the message that I must return the phone (and it kept of popping every time I charged it).
So, I am 100% positive that AT&T, and Samsung can do what they want.
Also, yesterday before I returned the phone my line got suspended. But my line is a corporate line so the company just decided to force me to return it.
damn, that's dodgy.
Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Here, ill give you my reason. I go upgrade to the s7 edge tonight. Now, when the new note or whatever it is with the stylus comes out, I cant upgrade yet. Whereas if I still had/have this, then I could with the note even year deal or whatever its called with Verizon. I guarantee im not the only one in this boat.
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It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk. Seriously when ZERO have had any issues in the UK. None, nil, nada. Why would anyone be so concerned. Sure there may be a small risk but let's keep this in perspective, please.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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And I can't figure out why people like you are so insistent on ramming your opinions down others' throats.
I will change mine in a month or two once theirs more alternative devices either available or announced. What's YOUR problem with what I do with MY phone?
Chippy_boy said:
Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk.
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No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
lawrence750 said:
No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
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Yawn. It was a no brainer for Samsung to discontinue it. They could be 100% confident they would have many more fires and other issues.
Any single user can be 99.99% confident they will not.
If you don't get that, I suggest you have a quick read up on probabilities 101.
@Chippy_boy dont waste your energy man, there will always be people who are just upset in general... they start the fire the moment they hear someone scream witch just continue to help like minded others and ignore their verbal traps, it'll eat them up inside every time they come back here... otherwise they wouldn't come back to troll about a phone they don't have