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Just bought some Nokia Stock

I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?

Well your arguments don't sound like the most rational ones out there, but I too think it's a good investment if you can wait atleast for a year or two before selling .

I'm also thinking of buying some And hopefully it will go quite well

I too bought 400 shares as I think in a year or two I'll make a decent return on my investment. I don't see Nokia going away as Microsoft has put a lot of cash in them in hopes of bringing WP7 up to #3. I bought as a long term investment for sure, so time will tell. Good luck to you also, we'll see if we made a good move!
By the way, best advise I can give you is, don't watch the stock daily, let it ride as someone said above, it will take quite some time before it starts to move in a positive direction. Just let it be and wait until WP8 comes out and gets established.you'll drive yourself nuts watching it right now!
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[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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Based purely on your post I would have to say "yes."
This is facebook 2.0. I LOVE my Lumia 900. But I also realize Betamax was better than VHS. VHS won. It is not just a matter of having a superior product that I like. You also have to market it.
I can't believe sheeple are still paying $200 for an outdated iphone with no LTE and a 3.5 inch screen. If you want a free contract iphone you will have to make due with the iphone 3gs. That's insane. The iphone 4s is already dated. And people are picking up a phone 3 generations older for the same price as I got a Lumia 900. That is the market place Nokia is playing in. So no I do not believe their success no matter how much I LOVE their product is assured.

[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.

ohgood said:
Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.
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sitizenx said:
^This
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Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.

The stock hasn't bottomed out yet. Nokia also mentioned they're likely to face more quarters of operating at a lost, and the smartphone business is only part of their business.
Nokia has also been downgraded to junk status, as no one believes that they will be able to repay their loans.
I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower. I'm holding out until right before the major launches.
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[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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You already have your answer before you posted this. See these key words in you post: "believer", "I really think", "they will be". These types of words should never be associated with any financial transactions.

jarnmo said:
sitizenx said:
^This
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Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.
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This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...
That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.

With Nokia value approaching net value of its patent portfolio and cash on hand, this seems like the time to buy if you believe in NOK's upside.
The downside risks are:
They burn all cash while in recovery mode and go bankrupt
WP7 doesn't increase sales to return them to future relevance
My take is that the cash issue is a non-issue. Even with their credit rating as junk, intuition says that NOK will have free access to cheap cash loans from someone with lots of cash and a vested interest in their success: Microsoft
The WP7 upshot is the big question mark, but the grass roots indicators are telling me that WP7 will be that catalyst, given time. Since time = money for NOK and MSFT has the money, this seems non-issue, as well.
The "doomsday" scenario is if NOK's market cap goes so cheap as to make a hostile acquisition enticing. Then you could see IP desperate Google or another maker stepping in to try to eat them up. In that case, I don't think MSFT would let that happen, either. Net-net of this scenario is that NOK's value gets run up in a bidding war, which I don't think MSFT would let be lost.
Either way, as a long term hold, NOK seems cheap.

sitizenx said:
This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...
That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.
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+1
there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.

ohgood said:
+1
there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.
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No one is saying NOK is safe - far from it. But if you are looking at a long term bet with big upside due to ambiguity, there are worse bets.
I bought $2K of NOK a few weeks ago knowing full well it could be zero. I considered it like buying a lotto ticket, fully understand it could be worth nothing or that NOK could be at $10+ in a year.

What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water

kenikh said:
I considered it like buying a lotto ticket...
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I don't think that contradicts anything we just said.
pLUSpISTOL said:
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!

pLUSpISTOL said:
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.

sitizenx said:
You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
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Now don't I just look stupid haha
It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out!
kenikh said:
Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.
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Thank you. Any tips you guys have as I get started would be great.

pLUSpISTOL said:
sitizenx said:
You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
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Now don't I just look stupid haha
It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out!
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I couldn't resist.
Over here in the US if all you want to do is trade stocks E*trade or Ameritrade are okay. I heard Fidelity is good as well. Choose a reputable firm and then see what pricing is like for your trading strategy. Your choice of broker will definitely vary depending on how often you trade.

vetvito said:
I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower.
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If you believe that why don't you sell short?
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Samsung BBB Complaint.

So I decided to write a complaint about Samsung to the BBB.
To make a really long story short. I received a GN with bad color. Had to fix myself and a month later after having it, it just died! Sent in for repair. I was told it would be repaired by June 27 and then shipped out. Received a email today stating "Please be advised that your Samsung service ticket [4115*****] has been placed on a temporary hold due to an unavailable part.
As soon as the part becomes available, your device will be repaired and shipped promptly"
I called Samsung AGAIN and they won't do ****.
So I am complaining and won't be a customer of Samsung again. WOW!!
Any success with this route? Trying to get a refund, don't want their crap back!

jzero88 said:
So I decided to write a complaint about Samsung to the BBB.
To make a really long story short. I received a GN with bad color. Had to fix myself and a month later after having it, it just died! Sent in for repair. I was told it would be repaired by June 27 and then shipped out. Received a email today stating "Please be advised that your Samsung service ticket [4115*****] has been placed on a temporary hold due to an unavailable part.
As soon as the part becomes available, your device will be repaired and shipped promptly"
I called Samsung AGAIN and they won't do ****.
So I am complaining and won't be a customer of Samsung again. WOW!!
Any success with this route? Trying to get a refund, don't want their crap back!
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Sorry to hear that but calling BBB won't do nothing to be honest.
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Small claims court is the only route for genuine recourse against large companies if you can't afford fancy lawyers...
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If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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brmayhem said:
If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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Someone's exceedingly rude? I personally NEVER have any difficulties with any Samsung products.

brmayhem said:
If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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Thanks, looks like I will have no choice but had to do SOMETHING, too bad this is how America does things. The consumers are always caught on the **** end of the stick. I won't ever! buy another Samsung product, I said that after the Vibrant, but $399 was too good to pass up, and now I know why. I still like Android, but I am seriously considering IOS now....

brmayhem said:
If you research a bit about Samsung's practices then you'd find out that it's one of the biggest piece of **** corporations in the world. It has been since the very beginning. And it's definitely not limited to cell phones. Problem is, they're a mammoth and manufacture awesome displays for low prices so that means that they'll be on top for a long time. Hundreds of thousands of complaints world wide and hardly ever a single **** was given.
Bottom line is, wait for the phone to get fixed and delivered to you. Good luck.
Let's hope the next Nexus phone isn't gonna be manufactured by them. Again.
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zephiK said:
Someone's exceedingly rude? I personally NEVER have any difficulties with any Samsung products.
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No... brmayhem is spot on. Samsung sucks and they don't care about their customers at all. They spent so much energy ripping off Apple, but they missed Apple's strongest and most redeeming quality: Their customer service.
Samsung blows. Nothing you do will ever get through to them. All you can do is use a different phone, use the repaired Nexus and flash a kernel like Trinity to fix the color issues, and wait until December and hope the next Nexus device is manufactured by a different company.

jmattp said:
No... brmayhem is spot on. Samsung sucks and they don't care about their customers at all. They spent so much energy ripping off Apple, but they missed Apple's strongest and most redeeming quality: Their customer service.
Samsung blows. Nothing you do will ever get through to them. All you can do is use a different phone, use the repaired Nexus and flash a kernel like Trinity to fix the color issues, and wait until December and hope the next Nexus device is manufactured by a different company.
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How would they spend so much money "ripping off Apple?" They've had these designs WAY before Apple iOS with BadaOS. Get your facts straight.
So much Samsung hatred and trolling happening in this thread.

zephiK said:
How would they spend so much money "ripping off Apple?" They've had these designs WAY before Apple iOS with BadaOS. Get your facts straight.
So much Samsung hatred and trolling happening in this thread.
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1: I said they spent a lot of ENERGY... not money
2: Don't start this. It's well known, well documented, and spread all over the internet that Touchwiz had some design elements that were direct rip-offs of iOS. Even the faux-metal band around the Galaxy phones were a nod to the first three iPhones.
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zephiK said:
How would they spend so much money "ripping off Apple?" They've had these designs WAY before Apple iOS with BadaOS. Get your facts straight.
So much Samsung hatred and trolling happening in this thread.
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And who are these Defenders of Samsung? Some kind of SHIELD program? Can't those who get faulty devices do something or say something about it? Looks like you are the troll man....

jmattp said:
1: I said they spent a lot of ENERGY... not money
2: Don't start this. It's well known, well documented, and spread all over the internet that Touchwiz had some design elements that were direct rip-offs of iOS. Even the faux-metal band around the Galaxy phones were a nod to the first three iPhones.
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How come the Iphone on the right looks a little different?

Most large companies do not care about customers. They care about profits. Apple is no exception. People think because customer service slaps on a pretty face and a smile that the company cares.
Simply not true. I can remove the word Samsung on the above hate-filled rants and it would be true.
Ford...Chevrolet...Apple...HP....Dell...Sony... the list is a mile long.
People say stuff like this all the time, but people on the other end are human beings too. Your own presentation goes a long way in getting things done. If you are difficult, they will be difficult too. If you are a douche...guess what? So are they.
I can give you a TON of HP customer service nitemares on the internet. I can even relate to the OP with my own computer with HP. I could surrender and fling my hands up in the air and say they wouldn't help me. Instead I stayed firm, yet civil and respectful.
End result? My computer which kept being postponed for repair due to part shortage was actually replaced with a brand new machine. The cost? Me being a human being and not an animal.
I am not saying the OP is, but it is hard to see how you really are acting by looking in the mirror. Have a neutral party hang out with you when you call Samsung sometime and see if maybe your attitude is less than appropriate.

jmattp said:
1: I said they spent a lot of ENERGY... not money
2: Don't start this. It's well known, well documented, and spread all over the internet that Touchwiz had some design elements that were direct rip-offs of iOS. Even the faux-metal band around the Galaxy phones were a nod to the first three iPhones.
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We going there? Should we talk about the ripoffs Apple did to Google?
I guess that is OK though, because its Apple. They can do no wrong.

jzero88 said:
How come the Iphone on the right looks a little different?
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lol I don't even know why people use that picture at all..... it fully circumvents the idea of Android's DESKTOP and 5 homescreens (or whatever you set it to based on your launcher). its a very misleading picture, not to mention Apple photoshopped one of the pictures to make it seem like they're both of same height
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
+1 to what adrynalyne said... Apple's Notification System is VERY much like Android.
But in the end, iOS and Android have been getting ideas from each other. Non-stop, that is what competition is all about.
Notification System, Multi-tasking, etc.

zephiK said:
lol I don't even know why people use that picture at all..... it fully circumvents the idea of Android's DESKTOP and 5 homescreens (or whatever you set it to based on your launcher). its a very misleading picture, not to mention Apple photoshopped one of the pictures to make it seem like they're both of same height
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
+1 to what adrynalyne said... Apple's Notification System is VERY much like Android.
But in the end, iOS and Android have been getting ideas from each other. Non-stop, that is what competition is all about.
Notification System, Multi-tasking, etc.
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Wow, they sure did chop that. I never really followed, but that is funny.

adrynalyne said:
Wow, they sure did chop that. I never really followed, but that is funny.
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http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/13/what-did-apple-copy-from-android-and-windows-phone-in-ios-6/
Some more additions... especially with Call-Message reply and the do-not-disturb feature. Hello Ice Cream Sandwich?

adrynalyne said:
We going there? Should we talk about the ripoffs Apple did to Google?
I guess that is OK though, because its Apple. They can do no wrong.
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We're not "going there". I'm simply using the image to support my assertion that Samsung wasted a lot of time and energy copying Apple's design but didn't copy their excellent customer service and warranty.
That's where it ends really. I'm not here because I want to defend Apple. I like tech/gadgets/consumer electronics. I'm not an Apple fanboy, nor am I an Android fanboy; I'm just a techie - a fanboy of all electronics - and I have had nothing but terrible experiences with Samsung products.
There's an obvious difference between bringing a defective device into a store and having it replaced on the spot, and calling a call center across the world to make arrangements to ship it out (paying the shipping yourself), waiting a week or two (maybe longer) and getting the same device back with the same issues.
...and yet I own a Series 5 550 and a Galaxy Nexus. I bought them and use them every day because they run the Google operating systems I want to use. There is no brand loyalty here...

jmattp said:
We're not "going there". I'm simply using the image to support my assertion that Samsung wasted a lot of time and energy copying Apple's design but didn't copy their excellent customer service and warranty.
That's where it ends really. I'm not here because I want to defend Apple. I like tech/gadgets/consumer electronics. I'm not an Apple fanboy, nor am I an Android fanboy; I'm just a techie - a fanboy of all electronics - and I have had nothing but terrible experiences with Samsung products.
There's an obvious difference between bringing a defective device into a store and having it replaced on the spot, and calling a call center across the world to make arrangements to ship it out (paying the shipping yourself), waiting a week or two (maybe longer) and getting the same device back with the same issues.
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In what context are you saying that Samsung copied Apple's design? since this is the "Galaxy Nexus forum." If you're implying that Samsung copied their design for TouchWiz, I don't see any TouchWiz being featured on stock Galaxy Nexus.
I think most of us are simply having the problem that you're straight up bashing the company in a inappropriate manner regardless of how "angry" you may be. It's kind of unacceptable to be swearing and pointing fingers directly at Samsung because I haven't had a bad experience with their customer service at all.
If you're having phone defects, you should deal with Verizon first. My Galaxy Nexus is from Negri Electronics (third party vendor) and they offer great customer service as well as Expansys. So I can't comment on Verizon.

zephiK said:
In what context are you saying that Samsung copied Apple's design? since this is the "Galaxy Nexus forum." If you're implying that Samsung copied their design for TouchWiz, I don't see any TouchWiz being featured on stock Galaxy Nexus.
I think most of us are simply having the problem that you're straight up bashing the company in a inappropriate manner regardless of how "angry" you may be. It's kind of unacceptable to be swearing and pointing fingers directly at Samsung because I haven't had a bad experience with their customer service at all.
If you're having phone defects, you should deal with Verizon first. My Galaxy Nexus is from Negri Electronics (third party vendor) and they offer great customer service as well as Expansys. So I can't comment on Verizon.
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Swearing? Really?
I've explained my comment twice already.
Only customers who purchase the phone subsidized through Verizon can get a refurbished unit as a replacement if there is a problem with the device after the 14-day grace period. If you buy the phone used, you have to go through Samsung.
Also, getting several replacements in a row with the same defect is defeating and really says something about a company.
Please remove yourself from Samsung's ****.
Aw gee whiz, Beav... sorry for swearing again!

jmattp said:
Swearing? Really?
I've explained my comment twice already.
Only customers who purchase the phone subsidized through Verizon can get a refurbished unit as a replacement if there is a problem with the device after the 14-day grace period. If you buy the phone used, you have to go through Samsung.
Also, getting several replacements in a row with the same defect is defeating and really says something about a company.
Please remove yourself from Samsung's ****.
Aw gee whiz, Beav... sorry for swearing again!
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That sounds like a personal problem with your carrier (or the store you've purchased it from), not the manufacturer of the phone. Yeah, there are defective units out on the market... but your carrier is the one who made the policy on 'refurbished units' as replacements.
This thread isn't really going anywhere. So I'll stop here and a mod will most likely close this thread soon. Good luck! Enjoy your jelly bean in the next coming days
Can't wait for Nexus 4

LG to unveil Nexus phone at the end of the month

I just read this on CNET News:
CNET has confirmed that the phone will be a modified version of the Optimus G. Other handset manufacturers could also release their own Nexus phones as well. The phone will be announced at the end of the month, according to a person briefed on the matter. While it will run some of the same specifications as the Optimus G, it will be modified to fit into the Nexus program. Google and LG haven't yet come up with a name for the product.
Like the Optimus G, the phone is expected to come with Qualcomm's Snapdragon quad-core processor, 2 gigabytes of RAM, a 1,280x768 True-High Definition IPS display, an 8-megapixel camera, and a nonremovable battery. It will also have no microSD slot and only 8GB to 16GB of internal storage, according to Modaco.
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So, it looks like the 5 manufacturers for next Nexus project are Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony and Asus (tablet)?
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@[email protected] Seriously?

Another rumor, geesh.
Seacrest out.
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lrs421 said:
Another rumor, geesh.
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I don't see how is a rumor, when is "confirmed". CNET will not post things like that just for fun.

Unless I win the lottery, not getting it so, good luck guys.
More disappointed about the overall Nexus program's movement towards anyone can make one.

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I don't see how is a rumor, when is "confirmed". CNET will not post things like that just for fun.
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"Confirmed" by an unnamed source. Self-checked confirmation isn't actually a confirmation.

I Am Marino said:
Unless I win the lottery, not getting it so, good luck guys.
More disappointed about the overall Nexus program's movement towards anyone can make one.
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I like the idea. If each manufacturer had a Nexus phone we could choose from whichever brand or tech we prefer, rather than stuck with whatever luck of the draw.

Wow Google, why would you let LG make this, sorry not buying the next nexus, this ones my fav right now
Unless they come out with a Samsung or Motorola nexus, I will be keeping my GN
HTC LG and Sony are utter sh**
Just my 2 cents
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speedyink said:
I like the idea. If each manufacturer had a Nexus phone we could choose from whichever brand or tech we prefer, rather than stuck with whatever luck of the draw.
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Development will be split miserably IMO, which is the main reason I don't like it.
Not to mention, I enjoyed one Nexus phone being the top dog in terms of reference for all Android devices

If it's a non-expandable 16GiB, count me out.
Non-replaceable battery just makes it worse.

Ranguvar said:
If it's a non-expandable 16GiB, count me out.
Non-replaceable battery just makes it worse.
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Get used to it as that is what Google is moving to.
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Ranguvar said:
If it's a non-expandable 16GiB, count me out.
Non-replaceable battery just makes it worse.
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Google is done putting SDcards in phones. Get used to it.
As for battery, I guess I understand some people want that ability, but I've never removed the battery in my phone to replace it or anything like that... If they can keep the phone thin with a large battery, and keeping it sealed helps them do that (it does), then I'm completely OK with it.

subxero123 said:
Wow Google, why would you let LG make this, sorry not buying the next nexus, this ones my fav right now
Unless they come out with a Samsung or Motorola nexus, I will be keeping my GN
HTC LG and Sony are utter sh**
Just my 2 cents
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Why hate on lg? I really don't get it. They seem to have high end device with currently probably the best hw out or coming out.
I don't have any bias hardware wise to a OEM myself. If anything Samsung has annoyed me with their source code crap. Htc as well. Moto and their damn locked bootloaders. And moto not updating a one year old device with a dual core to ICS. I kinda hope none of those OEMS get a nexus device on principal.

martonikaj said:
Google is done putting SDcards in phones. Get used to it.
As for battery, I guess I understand some people want that ability, but I've never removed the battery in my phone to replace it or anything like that... If they can keep the phone thin with a large battery, and keeping it sealed helps them do that (it does), then I'm completely OK with it.
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If the stock battery was great, by all means, seal it in, I don't care.
I'm glad the GNex wasn't sealed though.
-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-

I would really like the option of a removable battery. I don't care how big a non removable one is. Things happen and I would like a spare so if it dies or you're away from a charger you can swap it out.
Or until batteries can magically recharge in 5 mins

What happens when you get a sod and you need a battery pull?....anyways it'll be nice to have multiple nexus devices....the only thing I'm not a fan of on my gnex is the sampled screen.....its nice and vibrant but can be cartoony IMHO....I feel IPS is a good balance of screen types.....but other than that I'll wait to see what else come out......I had a gx2 and I thought it was a well made piece of hardware but with closed source code on drivers and such ICS never really ran properly....but cm7 was slick!!!
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What happens when you get a sod and you need a battery pull?....
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Devices with no removable battery will have a button combo (or a very long press on the power button) that does a hard reboot of the device. You don't need a removable battery. Google wouldn't make a Nexus that couldn't be reset in a bootloop or freeze.

Great phone, sh*t battery+storage, nice try though. Well before i get flamed, I like to swap out batteries rather than abuse my usb port
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Great phone, sh*t battery+storage, nice try though. Well before i get flamed, I like to swap out batteries rather than abuse my usb port
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Its a USB port... its not made out of diamonds.

There is one piece of information left out that applies to us all;
the next round of OTA updates begin to run 4.2.x soon after it goes on sale and who knows even the nexus s might get it too
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Devices with no removable battery will have a button combo (or a very long press on the power button) that does a hard reboot of the device. You don't need a removable battery. Google wouldn't make a Nexus that couldn't be reset in a bootloop or freeze.
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This I didn't know and have wondered about, thanks! My opinion has raised of build in batteries knowing if I need to hard reset I can
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Anyone know if QC 2.0 is upgradable via software?

I've heard that this phone charges at QC 2.0 speed despite having a usb - c port and a SD820 chip. Can QC 3.0 be activated via software in the future? It seems that LG wasn't even aware that the LG G4 could quick charge but it did.
I've weighed the pros and cons of this phone and was willing to get it. Some of the things I hate are the Curved screen, non-removable battery and lower battery capacity vs S7. The phone's specs are much less than the fake rumors but I was still thinking of getting the phone. Now, I've discovered that they are still using samsung's adaptive quick charge which is equivalent to QC 2.0. I believe that this is the final straw.
Though I despise my LG G4, I may have to hold out if this phone is only QC 2.0 despite having everything needed to have QC 3.0 charging.

Seriously? The tipping point is it ONLY charges 50% in 30 minutes? Come on.
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Seriously? The tipping point is it ONLY charges 50% in 30 minutes? Come on.
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But 3 is better than 2... come on.. I need it. 6GB of Ram when I can't even use the 4 GB I have, and OMG they destroyed the camera and took away megapixels... dang them. Was 16, now there are only 12. Those cheap fools!!!!
(Sorry couldn't resist, no personal insult intended, but read any Note 7 forums long enough, and you start to see the trend)

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But 3 is better than 2... come on.. I need it. 6GB of Ram when I can't even use the 4 GB I have, and OMG they destroyed the camera and took away megapixels... dang them. Was 16, now there are only 12. Those cheap fools!!!!
(Sorry couldn't resist, no personal insult intended, but read any Note 7 forums long enough, and you start to see the trend)
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Hahaha, I love it! That's all I've seen too. People are so... Uninformed and whiny about phones in general.
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boufa said:
But 3 is better than 2... come on.. I need it. 6GB of Ram when I can't even use the 4 GB I have, and OMG they destroyed the camera and took away megapixels... dang them. Was 16, now there are only 12. Those cheap fools!!!!
(Sorry couldn't resist, no personal insult intended, but read any Note 7 forums long enough, and you start to see the trend)
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So why post another useless whiny reply...

Wait, am I not allowed to post my opinion on a public forum. I sometimes wonder why the hell do people take offense on others opinion about products that they like.
I was really on the fence about getting the phone. You guys act like dropping $800 on a phone is pocket change. If I am going to upgrade my current working phone, wanting gizmos that are unnecessary is part of it. Who the hell needs a 5.7 inch 2k screen? No one but we want it.
The question was never addressed all I got were opinions of some people who I couldn't care any less about. Think about it, why would I care about some asshole's opinion when they aren't going to help me get the phone.
To the asshole that gave the sarcastic statement of more equals better. Yes, especially then I am paying the "more" price.
I am really disappointed by some of you people. You respond to a thread, cry, ***** and do the same thing you complain about.
If this is the people left that represents this forum, then it has gone to hell.

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Wait, am I not allowed to post my opinion on a public forum. I sometimes wonder why the hell do people take offense on others opinion about products that they like.
I was really on the fence about getting the phone. You guys act like dropping $800 on a phone is pocket change. If I am going to upgrade my current working phone, wanting gizmos that are unnecessary is part of it. Who the hell needs a 5.7 inch 2k screen? No one but we want it.
The question was never addressed all I got were opinions of some people who I couldn't care any less about. Think about it, why would I care about some asshole's opinion when they aren't going to help me get the phone.
To the asshole that gave the sarcastic statement of more equals better. Yes, especially then I am paying the "more" price.
I am really disappointed by some of you people. You respond to a thread, cry, ***** and do the same thing you complain about.
If this is the people left that represents this forum, then it has gone to hell.
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You sincerely want more of things just because of the price, even if useless? Seriously?
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You sincerely want more of things just because of the price, even if useless? Seriously?
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How is quicker charging useless? Did you even read my post?
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How is quicker charging useless? Did you even read my post?
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Yes I did read it. You said that you want the "more" if you're paying a "more price". The sarcastic comment you were responding to was implying that people think more always is better (when it's not always better). So... My point stands. I think it's silly to always want a higher number just because (like all the people commenting about 4GB of RAM and 12 MP on the camera).
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Well i find it silly to pay over $1,000 after tax and fees for a device that have a screen that I do not like and useful feature that was purposely removed. I also can't read my original post at the moment but I don't remember ever even mentioning a camera nor do I remember mentioning that's 4 gigabytes of RAM is insufficient. I wonder why you guys keep bringing up other topics.

Even with Snapdragon, Samsung is not really adapting "Quick Charge", aren't they? They're using their own "Fast Charge" technology.

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Well i find it silly to pay over $1,000 after tax and fees for a device that have a screen that I do not like and useful feature that was purposely removed. I also can't read my original post at the moment but I don't remember ever even mentioning a camera nor do I remember mentioning that's 4 gigabytes of RAM is insufficient. I wonder why you guys keep bringing up other topics.
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If you want to complain about an overpriced phone for what's available, look at Apple. No one seemed to complain when the S7 edge was $800, but now that the Note 7 is $60 more it's an atrocity. As if the s pen, better screen and iris scanner don't justify the small bump.
As for charging, I'm pretty sure Samsung has their own charging tech that they use, so they didn't want the 8990 users to be ignored. Imagine how everyone else around the world would feel if only American models of the N7 had 3.0 while the rest of the world is left behind. So I think it's more related to being on level ground worldwide.

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If you want to complain about an overpriced phone for what's available, look at Apple. No one seemed to complain when the S7 edge was $800, but now that the Note 7 is $60 more it's an atrocity. As if the s pen, better screen and iris scanner don't justify the small bump.
As for charging, I'm pretty sure Samsung has their own charging tech that they use, so they didn't want the 8990 users to be ignored. Imagine how everyone else around the world would feel if only American models of the N7 had 3.0 while the rest of the world is left behind. So I think it's more related to being on level ground worldwide.
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The edge never cost 800.
The reason they don't adopt qualcom tech is because they want you to buy more Samsung chargers. Duhh.

borisb said:
The edge never cost 800.
The reason they don't adopt qualcom tech is because they want you to buy more Samsung chargers. Duhh.
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Never? It still does. Granted it's lower now on eBay maybe, but so will be the Note 7 in a few weeks after it's officially released.
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Never? It still does. Granted it's lower now on eBay maybe, but so will be the Note 7 in a few weeks after it's officially released.
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What?!
Lol. I will sell it to you for 700$.
That's a good deal!!!

If you think the note 7 will get upgraded to qc 3.0 if it doesn't already have it (there is conflicting info out there about whether or not it has it) then why hasn't the S7E been upgraded to it either? It also has the Snapdragon 820.
I wanted this so bad for my S7e and already bought a bunch of 3.0 chargers but it never happened, don't expect it with note 7 if it doesn't already support qc 3.0

it' like buying a new computer with windows 8. who the F use windows 8 these days?
or buying a new car with cd changer, who the F use cd changer these days?

Verizon to deactivate old note 7's?

After September 30th. This is getting crazy

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After September 30th. This is getting crazy
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Who said that?
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jackdforme said:
Who said that?
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/10/samsung-galaxy-note-7-deactivated/
I have read this in a few places tonight. WTF
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anything to help Apple

No chance big red will give us anything
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pego99 said:
jackdforme said:
Who said that?
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/10/samsung-galaxy-note-7-deactivated/
I have read this in a few places tonight. WTF
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This is actually great news. It kills the second-hand market for unscrupulous sellers to sell potentially dangerous devices that could result in injuries or property damage. It's both morally-responsible and a protective measure by Samsung to reduce liability exposure. Now people are forced to return their old phones unless they want a $900 wifi device.
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After reading this article it is Samsung, not Verizon, doing this deactivation. Is that even possible? Is it normal for device manufacturers to be able to reach out and brick all of their devices? Because just shutting down the radio portion of the phone ain't gonna stop people from using it on WiFi and charging them. They must brick them. Never heard of such a thing before...:good:
If I choose to not get a recall in my car, can Ford shut me down legally? Is that good? Being careful what we wish for to be legal and good has a funny way of becoming the norm across every aspect of our lives....
I think this is a feign.....

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After reading this article it is Samsung, not Verizon, doing this deactivation. Is that even possible? Is it normal for device manufacturers to be able to reach out and brick all of their devices?
Never heard of such a thing before...:good:
If I choose to not get a recall in my car, can Ford shut me down legally? Is that good?
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In the case of stolen phones, it's usually it's the carriers who report lists of stolen IMEIs to GSMA so that they can deny service for a device with a bad IMEI. I don't think it will necessarily brick your device, just turn it into a wifi-only device if it's not locked some other way.
In the Note 7 case, given that potentially lives and property damage are at risk, it's certainly possible that Samsung can provide a list of all IMEIs to GSMA produced before their fixed batches and have them deactivate them en masse. Especially if this is done in conjunction with the CSPC.
Depending on which side of the fence you sit on with respect to personal accountability it could be a good or bad thing. Personally, I think this is a good thing and morally-responsible as I mentioned above. There is really no point in continuing to use a potential time bomb when you can easily return the phone (and if you're a poor soul who brought it second-hand or via eBay, Swappa, etc., its a life-lesson). In litigation-crazy American society where people are not accountable for their personal well-being and can sue at will, Samsung really has no choice but to resort to the nuclear option to protect themselves against liability, or in this case "acts of darwinism." In your example, Ford probably can't legally shut you down but I'm sure they would have clauses in their recall notices indemnifying them in case some owners refuse to fix their cars (withing a certain time frame) and kill themselves and others as well, esp. if the recalls are in conjunction with the Feds.

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In your example, Ford probably can't legally shut you down
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Thank you. If you take out probably, I totally agree. This is why the unsubstantiated link above, which references nothing but their own speculation, appears to be a feign. Right or wrong, good or bad, certainly smells like a feign dipped in rumor.
Sure, get the phone replaced. But a global brick wall? I don't buy it... Anything less than a total brick job will not suffice.

This is a rumor, take with a big grain of salt. Just another he said, she said hearsay from misinformed people.

Reddit source and journalism at its finest.
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Not going to happen for obvious reasons. It's just a report from some guy in France that nobody's heard of.

At this point that would make sense!

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This is actually great news. It kills the second-hand market for unscrupulous sellers to sell potentially dangerous devices that could result in injuries or property damage. It's both morally-responsible and a protective measure by Samsung to reduce liability exposure. Now people are forced to return their old phones unless they want a $900 wifi device.
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Only and only if they have a brand new revised model waiting for me. Otherwise this is not okay.
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This is actually great news. It kills the second-hand market for unscrupulous sellers to sell potentially dangerous devices that could result in injuries or property damage. It's both morally-responsible and a protective measure by Samsung to reduce liability exposure. Now people are forced to return their old phones unless they want a $900 wifi device.
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I can't believe the great news guy. Must be a Democrat lover of big gubment. Bla bla bla.
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I can't believe the great news guy. Must be a Democrat lover of big gubment. Bla bla bla.
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Pretty sad if you think politics is involved in this. If you were still using a potentially defective phone and it burned down your house and you were the only one in it, then it's purely your fault and only affects you. In which case I couldn't give a crap as that's your typical "act of darwinism." But if my 3-year old and wife were next door and the fire crossed into my house and they got hurt then yes I would give a crap and it is someone else's problem. I would be asking myself WTF was that idiot still using the phone after a recall has been issued and why was he even allowed to keep it.
You need to re-prioritize your life if keeping and using a damn phone that's been recalled is really that important to you (instead of just getting a refund to switch to another phone or buy a replacement) or if you seriously think politics plays a role in this.
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In other news....guess his family wished they would've returned the phone or that it was bricked...
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-new-york-injures-6-year-old-boy
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I just got a firmware update from Verizon that tells you if you have a defective battery Note 7. Now it notifies me to power down
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GeoFX said:
pego99 said:
Pretty sad if you think politics is involved in this. If you were still using a potentially defective phone and it burned down your house and you were the only one in it, then it's purely your fault and only affects you. In which case I couldn't give a crap as that's your typical "act of darwinism." But if my 3-year old and wife were next door and the fire crossed into my house and they got hurt then yes I would give a crap and it is someone else's problem. I would be asking myself WTF was that idiot still using the phone after a recall has been issued and why was he even allowed to keep it.
You need to re-prioritize your life if keeping and using a damn phone that's been recalled is really that important to you (instead of just getting a refund to switch to another phone or buy a replacement) or if you seriously think politics plays a role in this.
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In other news....guess his family wished they would've returned the phone or that it was bricked...
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-new-york-injures-6-year-old-boy
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They updated their blog, this incident was a completely unrelated event with a Galaxy Core Prime.
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See if your battery icon in the notification area is green you have device with a good battery if it's white you still have the defective one. So this what they may have been referring to
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