I recently got the m8, and after a few days of installing apps and learning its nuisances, i finally put it down for an extended time lol. but now that that has happened, ive noticed that whenever I get a notification, the light will not stop flashing until i clear it. its been flashing for an hour straight now from an email i sent myself. is this normal?
I dont have light flow installed by the way.
Maybe you have custom rom with that ability? I would like to have that option, but I had to install Light Flow...
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Maybe you have custom rom with that ability? I would like to have that option, but I had to install Light Flow...
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Nope, I'm fully stock. Not rooted or anything. I guess I would consider this bug useful, but it makes me paranoid that it will cause excessive battery drainage or cause LED problems in the future.
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Nope, I'm fully stock. Not rooted or anything. I guess I would consider this bug useful, but it makes me paranoid that it will cause excessive battery drainage or cause LED problems in the future.
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This is normal. I assume the expectation by HTC is that you use your phone often enough, that you will just check the notifications in a timely manner. Or on the other hand, if you don't turn the screen on for an extended time, you will want to be notified there was a message, call, etc.
I doubt this would have much impact on battery drain. LEDs are low power consumption for such a small LED as this. And leaving it blinking is not going to cause the LED to fail anytime soon. LEDs have a life expectancy of 25,000 hours or more (possibly up to 100,000 hours). Even if constantly lit, this equates to years or even decades of life. Most LEDs manufactured in the 70s and 80s are still working today.
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This is normal. I assume the expectation by HTC is that you use your phone often enough, that you will just check the notifications in a timely manner. Or on the other hand, if you don't turn the screen on for an extended time, you will want to be notified there was a message, call, etc.
I doubt this would have much impact on battery drain. LEDs are low power consumption for such a small LED as this. And leaving it blinking is not going to cause the LED to fail anytime soon. LEDs have a life expectancy of 25,000 hours or more (possibly up to 100,000 hours). Even if constantly lit, this equates to years or even decades of life. Most LEDs manufactured in the 70s and 80s are still working today.
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Thank you for the very informative reply. Gives me a little peace of mind. I'm sure that there's something wrong with my phone though because when I disable the led notifications in the settings for all apps, it still blinks when I get one. Might have to try a factory reset.
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Iv recently noticed while i was using my raph100 with android on it everytime i press one of the hard keys on the front of the phone excluding the top button, the qwerty keyboard would light up while the phone is closed. and i would have to not touch the phone for 10-20 seconds and wait for it to turn off or slide nd close the phone to turn the lights off. not sure if this is a known issue or not but it really does kill the battery and may be the cause for peoples phones getting warm?
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Iv recently noticed while i was using my raph100 with android on it everytime i press one of the hard keys on the front of the phone excluding the top button, the qwerty keyboard would light up while the phone is closed. and i would have to not touch the phone for 10-20 seconds and wait for it to turn off or slide nd close the phone to turn the lights off. not sure if this is a known issue or not but it really does kill the battery and may be the cause for peoples phones getting warm?
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Oh yeah! It does the same on mine too... I don't know if it's been noticed before. It only requires a light touch for the capacitive buttons to set the keyboard LEDs off.
interesting, i don't get the same results on my raph800. i can play with the capacitive buttons all day without the kb light coming on.
hamagc said:
interesting, i don't get the same results on my raph800. i can play with the capacitive buttons all day without the kb light coming on.
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Even when it's closed?
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Even when it's closed?
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as far as i can tell. open or closed.
actually i don't get lights coming on on the kb until i actually hit a key on the kb.
must be a raph100 thing then? well it surely has a massive impact on the battery so i hope one of the developers notice this issue and try fix it.
Same here! Raphael100 and keyboardlight is always on when using the phone (even if slider is closed).
A fix would be very much appreciated!
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well it surely has a massive impact on the battery
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Honestly the keyboard being lit is probably the LEAST concern for draining the battery. Things like processes not letting the system sleep, and overall poor/mishandled power management within the OS are going to cause A LOT more drain than a light on in the keyboard...
Hey, my new phone boots Android but they keyboard light doesn't work at all. Definitely doesn't have much to do with battery life.
well since ur lights dont work how do u know if its affecting ur battery? i sure know it affects mine. cause i get more battery life when i actualy make sure the lights are off
I agree with argh in saying the led for the kb uses very little battery. The raph100 is getting better battery currently with the kb light on than our raph800 with the light off.
Once power management and the system is working better you'll see better battery life, if it ever happens.
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Everything counts for better battery life. I'll let phh know about this and hopefully something can be done
i have noticed that my htc touch pro is perfect on xandroid until i make or recieve a call this is what seems to kill my battery one minut its full then the phone rings i answer and about a minute into the call i get dead battery
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Everything counts for better battery life. I'll let phh know about this and hopefully something can be done
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This is a great attitude to have! Kudos to you, Babijoee!
i've had my phone since launch and ever since my screen brightness gets automatically reduced due to overheating.
At first, the screen will dim itself ever so slightly. After a few seconds later, it returns to normal brightness and it repeats itself.
Eventually, i notice upper half of my phone as well as the screen itselft getting really hot and the brightness dims permanently.
I usually keep my brightness setting at the highest level but when i go into the menu to increase the brightness setting back to highest, it tells me the brightness is reduced due to overheating. only way to increase the brightness back to highest is to turn off the screen and let it cool down for a few min.
whenever this happens im usually browsing the internet for no longer than 10 min before this kicks in. i seriously dont think im using too much cpu by browsing forums for this super phone to be overheating.
i've read other post regarding auto brightness feature causing issues but i have not enable this feature on my phone. and its kinda hard to believe that i have to lower my brightness to prevent it from overheating.
anyone having this issue? man i'd hate to return this phone and start from scratch. tia
I would love to hear more about this...My experience matches yours perfectly. Does everyone's phone do this? If enough people say no I'm going to get a new one...it is absurd. I got those phone almost primarily for it's beautiful screen which I can't see at full brightness for more than a minute or two!?? fnck that.
Is it possible for us to get a brand new replacement unit even if your 15 day return period is over? Assuming that other users are not experiencing the same problem.
Mine does this as well, I think it's some kind of fail safe if your phone is running hot cranking up the brightness is just going to add more heat so they limit it while it's running hot. Once it cools down then it will allow it again
I have this same issue, I have to recharge above 30 percent to get the point where I can max the brightness up again
Hmmmm... guess im not the only one with this issue and hoping that it is addressed in the future update. However, it seems odd that no one brought this up? Could it be that there are only a few of us that are affected? If so, im beginning to think that this is a hardware defect?
Ive had the phone since day one. I am not having this problem. The only time it ever gets noticeably warm is when using the phone for extended periods while charging. And this is not hot like some people are reporting. I would try exchanging the phone.
Mine did this the other day, I normally have auto brightness on but I was showing a photo so i went to turn it off and crank the brightness up but it didn't let me. I pulled the battery for 10 seconds and it let me do it.
I think alot people are not experiencing this issue because they either keep the auto brightness feature turned on or keep the brightness setting at a low level. I dont wanna exchange my phone if im gonna have the same issue. What can i do?
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I think alot people are not experiencing this issue because they either keep the auto brightness feature turned on or keep the brightness setting at a low level. I dont wanna exchange my phone if im gonna have the same issue. What can i do?
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You may be on to something.... I rarely ever have my screen at 100%, mostly because its just too bright for me.
Although, I did watch 2 hours of video (1 hour from the SD card, one streaming from Netflix) at full brightness, and never had a heat issue. A little warm, maybe, but certainly not hot.
I know this is an issue with the S2 but it seems to follow to the S3. I have the phone next to my bed so with the bigger & brighter screen, it lights up the entire room and wakes me up. I dont want to place a cover over the screen like what I did with my S2 so any other suggestion?
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I know this is an issue with the S2 but it seems to follow to the S3. I have the phone next to my bed so with the bigger & brighter screen, it lights up the entire room and wakes me up. I dont want to place a cover over the screen like what I did with my S2 so any other suggestion?
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Isn't this more to do with the notification that the battery is now fully charged? When the notification appears, it will turn the screen on. Does the same happen when you get a late night text or something?
Unfortunately, I can't find anything that will turn off notifications. You could try "Profile Scheduler" by Wetpalm. While this function isn't currently available in the current version, a quick e-mail to the developer may get him to add this as an option. It would be nice to say when docked, and its after 11pm, don't turn the screen on. I'm not sure if this is feasible, but give it a go.
HTH.
whats if you set the brightness to lowest? do you still wake up then?
Can't you just turn off notification from toggle? Or don't use the dock at night and charge with cable turn phone face down...
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Sounds like a fairly easy job for tasker.
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totally agree on this one
I advise you to place your phone a little far away from you, especially when charging, because this causes much more rediation, does harm to you. And even if it turns on when fully charged, it won't affect you much.
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this causes much more rediation, does harm to you
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Couldn't agree more. I would also recommend wearing a tin foil hat to bed (you can buy these or make them yourself) to further limit the severe impact that the aforementioned 'rediation' has on your soft, vulnerable brain tissue.
This made me laugh "rediation" why not build a faraday cage too then ?
I know it is annoying when your room is pitch black and you recieve a text or what ever then the screen lights up the room lol life is not easy...
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Isn't this more to do with the notification that the battery is now fully charged? When the notification appears, it will turn the screen on. Does the same happen when you get a late night text or something?
Unfortunately, I can't find anything that will turn off notifications. You could try "Profile Scheduler" by Wetpalm. While this function isn't currently available in the current version, a quick e-mail to the developer may get him to add this as an option. It would be nice to say when docked, and its after 11pm, don't turn the screen on. I'm not sure if this is feasible, but give it a go.
HTH.
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When battery gets to 100% charged, it will power on and goes to the home screen. it's not a txt/email notification, it's a full battery notification. I now charge my phone to complete before going to bed which seems to help with the 2AM wakeup.
Unfortunately, need to keep phone close by since I work in incident management. I get those late night calls when things happen and you all should be happy that there are people like me around It could save your life or a love one's life.
I'll try tasker later this week to see if I can get it to work otherwise I'll try your recommendation. Thanks!
Just read the review by PC Mag, and I have to admit it's making me a little hesitant to pick up the phone Sunday. Essentially when the phone gets warm it auto dims the screen. I wish he posted more details about the issue.
I've been jazzed about the phone for a couple of weeks now, but it does have some drawbacks for me right out of the box. The non-removable battery, the lackluster camera, and lack of micro-sd slot on the Sprint version. Still I could live with those issues, by and large, but the dimming issue reported by PC Mag has me to the point where I'm reconsidering buying in.
I'm hoping people who get this phone over the weekend weigh in with their experience on the issue.
Here's the relevant excerpt:
"One big problem: I did most of my testing with the screen brightness set to maximum. I noticed it dip considerably after about 10 or 15 minutes of benchmarking. When I checked on it in the phone's Settings, I saw the brightness level had dropped down to 66%. I tried to turn it back up, and got the message, "Unable to brighten more due to high temperature. Try again later." I encountered this issue on multiple occasions. Especially when using processor-intensive applications like games, the top half of the phone becomes increasingly warm. LG claims it has not encountered this issue, but two test units as well as our AT&T model of the phone did the same thing."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
Who keeps their phone on max brightness? 66 is twice what my brightness is set on :/
But yes, I will agree that it's an unusual thing to force user to take those measures.
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Who keeps their phone on max brightness? 66 is twice what my brightness is set on :/
But yes, I will agree that it's an unusual thing to force user to take those measures.
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Totally agree. That's why I'm sort of waiting with anticipation for people to get them in their hands and report their experience with that issue. I've got my current phone set to like 30% most of the time, so this is workable, but there are times when I need that brightness maxed out for a significant length of time.
I'm hoping the reports are good. I really want this phone.
If the phone overheats I'm going to ask Sprint to cover the restocking fee when I return it. On the contrary, that's the only review that has mentioned overheating that I could find though.
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If the phone overheats I'm going to ask Sprint to cover the restocking fee when I return it. On the contrary, that's the only review that has mentioned overheating that I could find though.
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Yeah but they said it happened with three test sets, with both the AT&T and the Sprint hardware versions. Looks like it dims by design given the warning message they received. That tends to indicate LG knows they run hot on heavy usage.
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Yeah but they said it happened with three test sets, with both the AT&T and the Sprint hardware versions. Looks like it dims by design given the warning message they received. That tends to indicate LG knows they run hot on heavy usage.
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That's not good news, I'm going to stay optimistic with it since it's already on the UPS truck and if it overheats on any normal use I will return it as defective. In all fairness, I've never had a smartphone that didn't overheat, especially during tethering.
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received mine yesterday and I was able to recreate the pc mag error. It wasn't that hot either, wasn't doing much. I'm a bit concerned.
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received mine yesterday and I was able to recreate the pc mag error. It wasn't that hot either, wasn't doing much. I'm a bit concerned.
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I haven't encountered the error yet, it runs a bit warm, but I keep my screen at about 36% to save battery.
My screen brightness is at 40% and looks great.
People have to understand the powerful hardware runs hotter. It's physics and unfortunately, unlike PC, cars etc, they can't simply install a better cooling system so they use software to tone things down when things get heavy. Also, it's not "overheating" unless the phone acts erratically. Running "hot" does not qualify as "overheating".
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My screen brightness is at 40% and looks great.
People have to understand the powerful hardware runs hotter. It's physics and unfortunately, unlike PC, cars etc, they can't simply install a better cooling system so they use software to tone things down when things get heavy. Also, it's not "overheating" unless the phone acts erratically. Running "hot" does not qualify as "overheating".
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More like running warm, I think people might be over reacting a bit whenever this issue is brought up.
This user is reporting random reboots. Also, the sprint rep recommended they pull the battery for about a minute... on the lg optimus g.... with the fixed battery door.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/499063#499063
Sorry to hear that. No problems yet. The camera is disappointing, but everything else is working well. The dimming issue is an issue. I was out taking pics to test the camera and needed more brightness but the phone was locked at like sixty three percent or maybe forty three i cant remember.
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I have just installed Charging LED for Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store. It works perfectly, no complaints, but I have a doubt.
If the LED of the phone is on constantly for hours, is there a threat of it getting damaged or some other side effects taking place?
I wanna use this app, but I'm a bit scared about the hardware side effects it MAY have.
Kindly enlighten me on this topic.
Thanks.
I don't think so.
i had it on my motorola defy and and now on Gnex and it works fine on both.
i use light flow(the best one for our phone)
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I have just installed Charging LED for Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store. It works perfectly, no complaints, but I have a doubt.
If the LED of the phone is on constantly for hours, is there a threat of it getting damaged or some other side effects taking place?
I wanna use this app, but I'm a bit scared about the hardware side effects it MAY have.
Kindly enlighten me on this topic.
Thanks.
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I`ll suppose battery life will be the negative side effect.
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I don't think so.
i had it on my motorola defy and and now on Gnex and it works fine on both.
i use light flow(the best one for our phone)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlite&hl=en
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Well thanks for the suggestion. I don't think Light Flow has the charging light option. The app I have mentioned keeps the LED light on (not just blinking) for all the time the phone is being charged.
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Hmmm.. I don't think so, as the LED will be on only when the phone is being charged. Or am I wrong?
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Well thanks for the suggestion. I don't think Light Flow has the charging light option. The app I have mentioned keeps the LED light on (not just blinking) for all the time the phone is being charged.
Hmmm.. I don't think so, as the LED will be on only when the phone is being charged. Or am I wrong?
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Yeah if you are charging then battery life wouldn't be a problem. I have never heard of any negative side effects to using a LED app. Go for it, it will be grand
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Yeah if you are charging then battery life wouldn't be a problem. I have never heard of any negative side effects to using a LED app. Go for it, it will be grand
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Yes, even I have never ever had any issues with LED apps, but this one is different. It will be ON constantly, not just blinking. And it will be ON for hours at a stretch, with just makes me a little worried.
Can the color leave a permanent mark, similar to some pixels that sometime get stuck to the screen?
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Yes, even I have never ever had any issues with LED apps, but this one is different. It will be ON constantly, not just blinking. And it will be ON for hours at a stretch, with just makes me a little worried.
Can the color leave a permanent mark, similar to some pixels that sometime get stuck to the screen?
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Not sure about permanent mark but here is some info on life expectancy
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/led-luminaries/uncategorized/led-life-expectancy-2009-02/
Well that's good and bad too. Some LEDs may last just a year is what it says, so that's dangerous!
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Just so you know light flow has options for low battery, charging battery, and charged battery. You can set it to always stay on instead of blinking also.
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LED's don't get stuck on or anything negative if left on for hours. The only downside is LED's are rated for a certain number of hours. Being constantly on will use those hours up significantly faster than just blinking. On the upside, LED's are usually rated for 25,000, 50,000 and even up to 100,000 hours. So even if you charge your phone for 8 hours a day you have quite a few years of use.