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Iv recently noticed while i was using my raph100 with android on it everytime i press one of the hard keys on the front of the phone excluding the top button, the qwerty keyboard would light up while the phone is closed. and i would have to not touch the phone for 10-20 seconds and wait for it to turn off or slide nd close the phone to turn the lights off. not sure if this is a known issue or not but it really does kill the battery and may be the cause for peoples phones getting warm?

kgpp2293 said:
Iv recently noticed while i was using my raph100 with android on it everytime i press one of the hard keys on the front of the phone excluding the top button, the qwerty keyboard would light up while the phone is closed. and i would have to not touch the phone for 10-20 seconds and wait for it to turn off or slide nd close the phone to turn the lights off. not sure if this is a known issue or not but it really does kill the battery and may be the cause for peoples phones getting warm?
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Oh yeah! It does the same on mine too... I don't know if it's been noticed before. It only requires a light touch for the capacitive buttons to set the keyboard LEDs off.

interesting, i don't get the same results on my raph800. i can play with the capacitive buttons all day without the kb light coming on.

hamagc said:
interesting, i don't get the same results on my raph800. i can play with the capacitive buttons all day without the kb light coming on.
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Even when it's closed?

ben_duder said:
Even when it's closed?
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as far as i can tell. open or closed.
actually i don't get lights coming on on the kb until i actually hit a key on the kb.

must be a raph100 thing then? well it surely has a massive impact on the battery so i hope one of the developers notice this issue and try fix it.

Same here! Raphael100 and keyboardlight is always on when using the phone (even if slider is closed).
A fix would be very much appreciated!

kgpp2293 said:
well it surely has a massive impact on the battery
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Honestly the keyboard being lit is probably the LEAST concern for draining the battery. Things like processes not letting the system sleep, and overall poor/mishandled power management within the OS are going to cause A LOT more drain than a light on in the keyboard...
Hey, my new phone boots Android but they keyboard light doesn't work at all. Definitely doesn't have much to do with battery life.

well since ur lights dont work how do u know if its affecting ur battery? i sure know it affects mine. cause i get more battery life when i actualy make sure the lights are off

I agree with argh in saying the led for the kb uses very little battery. The raph100 is getting better battery currently with the kb light on than our raph800 with the light off.
Once power management and the system is working better you'll see better battery life, if it ever happens.
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Everything counts for better battery life. I'll let phh know about this and hopefully something can be done

i have noticed that my htc touch pro is perfect on xandroid until i make or recieve a call this is what seems to kill my battery one minut its full then the phone rings i answer and about a minute into the call i get dead battery

babijoee said:
Everything counts for better battery life. I'll let phh know about this and hopefully something can be done
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This is a great attitude to have! Kudos to you, Babijoee!

[Q] Phone into pocket = standby?

A friend of mine has a Motorola Razr which automatically switches to standby (screen off) when it's put into his pocket.
Does anyone know if there's a way for us HOX users to accomplish this?

WiplashNL said:
A friend of mine has a Motorola Razr which automatically switches to standby (screen off) when it's put into his pocket.
Does anyone know if there's a way for us HOX users to accomplish this?
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Man, I feel like an advertisement recently, but I feel like this would be something not too hard to accomplish with Tasker. If light levels drop to near nothing and the proximity sensor detects a very short distance, like the phone is in your pocket, it turns the screen off. I'd also put in an if for disabling this function when you're on a call, just because it already does it and I don't know if it'd interfere. You could test it though.
Battery use might be a concern if it polls the sensors too much. Would have to look into it.
Edit: I set up a simple test for this on my Infuse, and I got it to work, but it doesn't work instantaneously. The sensors are only polled every x number of seconds, but I don't know what that number is exactly. I suspect it shouldn't take more battery than it would if you had auto brightness on, and with auto brightness on, it's probably already updating the value, if it isn't always anyway (I want to say it does regardless), so I guess battery shouldn't be a concern. I guess it turning off with a couple of seconds of delay is still better than it staying on for 30+ seconds.

[Q] Charging Issue - No one seems to know

Alright this is a rough one so let me start elaborating my predicament.
The phone will charge fine that isn't a problem.
The problem is "Discharging"
from a rough estimate of 100% till about 80% nothing it will say it's "Still Charging" (well showing the lightning symbol, no big deal)
but as soon as it reaches a lower percent (79% Etc.) it will keep making the Screen turn on and off on and off all day until around 14% which makes the battery use more juice having the screen on.
the issue is it believes to be "Plugged" in and "unplugged" consistently to make the screen wake and sleep.
the wake timer is set to the minimum which is 15 seconds, every other action has been taken that I know of,
Settings-Apps-Notifications,
Settings-Developer-Stay Awake
Settings-Sounds-Notifications
and so on,
I just figured heck, i'll root my Nexus in hopes there are additional options to resolve my issue but no Rom I've found allows this unless maybe I missed one that has this feature to turn off the information if the phone is charging, or not.
Thank you for all your brilliant information in the past, this is a new account I've been with the XDA since 09
Last option would be to buy the Nexus 4 but I am to believe it's a 3G only device and I run through Verizon, the only other option would be to keep my unlimited data and buy their phone. any and all advice is appreciated thank you again,

i bet you have the "fingers" inside your usb port touching each other. one might be slightly bent, causing the issue. if they do touch, the device thinks its plugged in.

That makes sense I didn't take that into account. Would I be able to use needle nose pliers and fix it myself or is there a .Command I can program my phone or even an app that will make it so the only time my screen comes on is for the power button?
If I have to I can always just buy the Nexus 4 if that's a smart choice?
Thank you for your wisdom.

Dominic.Black said:
That makes sense I didn't take that into account. Would I be able to use needle nose pliers and fix it myself or is there a .Command I can program my phone or even an app that will make it so the only time my screen comes on is for the power button?
If I have to I can always just buy the Nexus 4 if that's a smart choice?
Thank you for your wisdom.
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you can try a stiff wire, i dont think needle nose pliers will fit. also, you could try cleaning it with alcohol(not to much). the n4 is nice too

Any way to adjust sensitivity of turning screen on?

Seems like it's kind of difficult to get the screen to turn on. I turn my wrist up to look at the watch and it doesn't turn on. I have to kind of forcefully snap my wrist horizontally for the screen to come on, just a casual horizontal movement isn't enough. Anyone else? It's possible I have faulty hardware.

spinedoc said:
Seems like it's kind of difficult to get the screen to turn on. I turn my wrist up to look at the watch and it doesn't turn on. I have to kind of forcefully snap my wrist horizontally for the screen to come on, just a casual horizontal movement isn't enough. Anyone else? It's possible I have faulty hardware.
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I feel like mine goes on too easily.

spinedoc said:
Seems like it's kind of difficult to get the screen to turn on. I turn my wrist up to look at the watch and it doesn't turn on. I have to kind of forcefully snap my wrist horizontally for the screen to come on, just a casual horizontal movement isn't enough. Anyone else? It's possible I have faulty hardware.
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Mine is very very accurate.. maybe a device reset?

Mine works 8/10 times. Every now and then it fails to come on.
spinedoc said:
Seems like it's kind of difficult to get the screen to turn on. I turn my wrist up to look at the watch and it doesn't turn on. I have to kind of forcefully snap my wrist horizontally for the screen to come on, just a casual horizontal movement isn't enough. Anyone else? It's possible I have faulty hardware.
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Mine goes on really easy. I have actually been looking for some sort of a lock for the screen because my 6 month old was doing all sorts of things to it just during the first 15 minutes of holding her.
I put in another post that I wish the button on the side of the Moto 360 was a lock / unlock that kept the phone in ambient mode and stopped screen touches because I have not used it otherwise for anything else and it seems like it might be a useful feature.

You have to make sure your watch is on snug. If it's loose it will not register as accurately

Mine pisses me off that it turns on so much. Want to disable accelerometer/gyroscope wake and make it on button press only... Horrible if you have a long commute. I drove 3 hours and lost 60% battery from all the wakes.

I'm jealous of you guys. I have to snap my hand around like I'm saluting someone and even then it only works half the time.

daijizai said:
Mine pisses me off that it turns on so much. Want to disable accelerometer/gyroscope wake and make it on button press only... Horrible if you have a long commute. I drove 3 hours and lost 60% battery from all the wakes.
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same here, argh! not cool

pierrekid said:
You have to make sure your watch is on snug. If it's loose it will not register as accurately
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^^This helps quite a bit.

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Wrong Thread. Darn tabs..

pierrekid said:
You have to make sure your watch is on snug. If it's loose it will not register as accurately
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Wow tightened my watch and it's like night and day, it always turns on when i tilt it now. Thanks!

Chronos2187 said:
Wow tightened my watch and it's like night and day, it always turns on when i tilt it now. Thanks!
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Worked for me as well. I always had trouble getting it to turn on without 2 or 3 attempts at it. Tightened it by one notch and have no problems getting it to come on.

Questions for Curent Moto Owners

Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist.
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.

thecrunked said:
Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist.
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I am also looking into getting one, The one question I can help you with from my research is that you can have the screen always on but it will drain your battery faster and generally iv'e been hearing that it barely lasts a full day

thecrunked said:
Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
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Works well - screen lights up, but dimmed (if you have auto-brightness on). Low enough to still see, but not bright enough to brighten a room
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The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist..
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Battery - Most days I'll get 15-18 hours, but then for no reason, I'll get terrible battery life the next day.
Screen does tend to come on when driving - never really notice it during the day, but at night you can definitely tell. I just changed my driving style (lower left hand and use right to turn wheel instead) and it rarely comes on. Not much of an issue when it does though.
thecrunked said:
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Yes, you can keep ambiance on, but it does drain the battery fast. I had it on but then realized I'm not looking at the watch 24/7. When I do flick my wrist, 99% of the time it lights up really quickly.

thecrunked said:
Hey guys, just have a few questions for mto owners that I haven't seen answered anywhere. I am interested in picking one of these devices up but I have a couple reservations.
My main question is how does the display look in dark areas, like at a bar or while driving at night. I really don't want a bright cell phone screen strapped to my wrist, like how the samsung watches look. Is this one properly dim (especially without having to mess with settings) for night time settings so it just appears like a normal watch, or does it look too bright.
The other thing I was wondering was what are the major drawbacks, I have heard it can be annoying to drive with cause the screen goes blank and comes back one when making turns cause it thinks your flipping your wrist.
Is there a setting to keep the watchface on 24/7 as well, not crazy about having a blank screen strapped to my wrist?
Any help would be appreciated.
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agreed with Hustlaz 100%.
also, just want to add that before you get it, first determine why you want it. if you want it to keep track of your steps/heart rate as well as get notifications sent to your wrist, then this is ideal. if you are looking for a nice time-piece that lasts all day, then a conventional watch is a better route.
i've had mine for a little over 2 weeks, and battery life has been great - even with ambient on (although, the screen still goes blank with this setting, just not as quickly, so I have turned this feature off). most reviews you might have read about battery life we're probably before the 11/9 software update. i got mine just after this update, so I can't make a fair comparison here.
otherwise, the watch works as advertised - just beware that when using the google fit app on your phone, your phone's battery will take a major hit (but you can disable the activity detection). otherwise, no noticeable hit on my phone's (moto x) battery life.
essentially, the way it works is that the watch acts like a mirror for your phone - you can also mute certain apps notifications from appearing on your watch.
my only concerns is that the steps data does not sync from my watch to my phone properly (hoping that the google fit app will be updated to accept this with activity detection disabled or at least fix the battery drain), and that when viewing those google now cards (such as weather, sports scores, traffic, etc) on my phone and I swipe them away, they also disappear from my phone - would like to keep them on my phone. I'm sure there is a setting to adjust this, just have not had the time to see for myself.
the good news is that you can buy one at Best Buy, try it out for a week, and if you don't like, you can return it. problem is that you may actually like it too much whereby you won't want to return it and you find yourself keeping your watch on all the time.