Battery Drain*Somthing new* - Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development

Iv recently noticed while i was using my raph100 with android on it everytime i press one of the hard keys on the front of the phone excluding the top button, the qwerty keyboard would light up while the phone is closed. and i would have to not touch the phone for 10-20 seconds and wait for it to turn off or slide nd close the phone to turn the lights off. not sure if this is a known issue or not but it really does kill the battery and may be the cause for peoples phones getting warm?

kgpp2293 said:
Iv recently noticed while i was using my raph100 with android on it everytime i press one of the hard keys on the front of the phone excluding the top button, the qwerty keyboard would light up while the phone is closed. and i would have to not touch the phone for 10-20 seconds and wait for it to turn off or slide nd close the phone to turn the lights off. not sure if this is a known issue or not but it really does kill the battery and may be the cause for peoples phones getting warm?
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Oh yeah! It does the same on mine too... I don't know if it's been noticed before. It only requires a light touch for the capacitive buttons to set the keyboard LEDs off.

interesting, i don't get the same results on my raph800. i can play with the capacitive buttons all day without the kb light coming on.

hamagc said:
interesting, i don't get the same results on my raph800. i can play with the capacitive buttons all day without the kb light coming on.
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Even when it's closed?

ben_duder said:
Even when it's closed?
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as far as i can tell. open or closed.
actually i don't get lights coming on on the kb until i actually hit a key on the kb.

must be a raph100 thing then? well it surely has a massive impact on the battery so i hope one of the developers notice this issue and try fix it.

Same here! Raphael100 and keyboardlight is always on when using the phone (even if slider is closed).
A fix would be very much appreciated!

kgpp2293 said:
well it surely has a massive impact on the battery
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Honestly the keyboard being lit is probably the LEAST concern for draining the battery. Things like processes not letting the system sleep, and overall poor/mishandled power management within the OS are going to cause A LOT more drain than a light on in the keyboard...
Hey, my new phone boots Android but they keyboard light doesn't work at all. Definitely doesn't have much to do with battery life.

well since ur lights dont work how do u know if its affecting ur battery? i sure know it affects mine. cause i get more battery life when i actualy make sure the lights are off

I agree with argh in saying the led for the kb uses very little battery. The raph100 is getting better battery currently with the kb light on than our raph800 with the light off.
Once power management and the system is working better you'll see better battery life, if it ever happens.
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Everything counts for better battery life. I'll let phh know about this and hopefully something can be done

i have noticed that my htc touch pro is perfect on xandroid until i make or recieve a call this is what seems to kill my battery one minut its full then the phone rings i answer and about a minute into the call i get dead battery

babijoee said:
Everything counts for better battery life. I'll let phh know about this and hopefully something can be done
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This is a great attitude to have! Kudos to you, Babijoee!

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Vibrate on touch/release?

There is a vibrate on touch/release feature in NFSFAN’s ROM’s that is normally turned on by default. The first time I flashed one of these ROM’s this feature really took me by surprise. I seriously through “oh boy, I screwed this up”.
My question is what is this feature for? I turned it off as soon as I figured out how to turn it off. Do people like this feature? Or was I too hasty in turning it off and am I missing out on how it could be useful?
What about battery life? Wouldn’t it drain the battery very quickly? Also, it seems to me that the vibrate feature is the only “moving part” on this phone. Couldn’t using it in this way wear out the bearings and/or motor?
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The Fish
it is supposed to mimick the haptic feedback found on many touch screen devices. the battery does not drain too fast as to be very noticable.
thefish123 said:
There is a vibrate on touch/release feature in NFSFAN’s ROM’s that is normally turned on by default. The first time I flashed one of these ROM’s this feature really took me by surprise. I seriously through “oh boy, I screwed this up”.
My question is what is this feature for? I turned it off as soon as I figured out how to turn it off. Do people like this feature? Or was I too hasty in turning it off and am I missing out on how it could be useful?
What about battery life? Wouldn’t it drain the battery very quickly? Also, it seems to me that the vibrate feature is the only “moving part” on this phone. Couldn’t using it in this way wear out the bearings and/or motor?
Regards,
The Fish
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My first impression was about the same as yours, I also turned if off right away. However after flashing a few more times and getting lazy and not turning it off I've come to like it. Especially when typing, it feels more like typing on a normal cell keyboard. I wish there was an app or a keyboard that did vibrate on touch. As far as battery drain I haven't noticed any issues... prior the most recent NFSFAN ROM my battery life sucked, since v9 it's much better, I actually was able to go 36 hours without charging my phone... before after 12 it would be down to 30 some %. As for wearing it out I don't see that as an issue, I've never taken apart my touch enough to see what makes it vibrate, but common sense would tell me it's a small motor with a counter weight, I'm sure it will last much longer than other parts of the vogue like the screen....
Obviously this is just my opinion of the vibrate feature, but it wouldn't hurt to give it a try for a couple of days.
I'd advise trying it out for a few days or so, I find now that without it I miss it. It really does help in replacing the tactile feeling of a physical keyboard and knowing that the key was in fact pressed. You can adjust the feel too, personally I tend to like the 25/15 setting.
i turn off the vibrate on release. to me when you use yiur key board there is no point on having it vibrate twice for every key stroke.. but you do get used to it and its hard to go without it.. SPB keyboard has this option in it and it would cause some longer vibrations..

Samsung Dock - Screen Turning on when fully charged

I know this is an issue with the S2 but it seems to follow to the S3. I have the phone next to my bed so with the bigger & brighter screen, it lights up the entire room and wakes me up. I dont want to place a cover over the screen like what I did with my S2 so any other suggestion?
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I know this is an issue with the S2 but it seems to follow to the S3. I have the phone next to my bed so with the bigger & brighter screen, it lights up the entire room and wakes me up. I dont want to place a cover over the screen like what I did with my S2 so any other suggestion?
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Isn't this more to do with the notification that the battery is now fully charged? When the notification appears, it will turn the screen on. Does the same happen when you get a late night text or something?
Unfortunately, I can't find anything that will turn off notifications. You could try "Profile Scheduler" by Wetpalm. While this function isn't currently available in the current version, a quick e-mail to the developer may get him to add this as an option. It would be nice to say when docked, and its after 11pm, don't turn the screen on. I'm not sure if this is feasible, but give it a go.
HTH.
whats if you set the brightness to lowest? do you still wake up then?
Can't you just turn off notification from toggle? Or don't use the dock at night and charge with cable turn phone face down...
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Sounds like a fairly easy job for tasker.
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totally agree on this one
I advise you to place your phone a little far away from you, especially when charging, because this causes much more rediation, does harm to you. And even if it turns on when fully charged, it won't affect you much.
autumntree said:
this causes much more rediation, does harm to you
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Couldn't agree more. I would also recommend wearing a tin foil hat to bed (you can buy these or make them yourself) to further limit the severe impact that the aforementioned 'rediation' has on your soft, vulnerable brain tissue.
This made me laugh "rediation" why not build a faraday cage too then ?
I know it is annoying when your room is pitch black and you recieve a text or what ever then the screen lights up the room lol life is not easy...
MrPloppy said:
Isn't this more to do with the notification that the battery is now fully charged? When the notification appears, it will turn the screen on. Does the same happen when you get a late night text or something?
Unfortunately, I can't find anything that will turn off notifications. You could try "Profile Scheduler" by Wetpalm. While this function isn't currently available in the current version, a quick e-mail to the developer may get him to add this as an option. It would be nice to say when docked, and its after 11pm, don't turn the screen on. I'm not sure if this is feasible, but give it a go.
HTH.
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When battery gets to 100% charged, it will power on and goes to the home screen. it's not a txt/email notification, it's a full battery notification. I now charge my phone to complete before going to bed which seems to help with the 2AM wakeup.
Unfortunately, need to keep phone close by since I work in incident management. I get those late night calls when things happen and you all should be happy that there are people like me around It could save your life or a love one's life.
I'll try tasker later this week to see if I can get it to work otherwise I'll try your recommendation. Thanks!

Anyone else experience this?

It is weird, whenever my GNex is in my pocket, it will turn itself off. When I take it out of my pocket I have to hold power and it powers on. I am currently running miui.us 2.8.24 but this happens even on stock ROM and it only does it if it is in my pocket.
Zehlek said:
It is weird, whenever my GNex is in my pocket, it will turn itself off. When I take it out of my pocket I have to hold power and it powers on. I am currently running miui.us 2.8.24 but this happens even on stock ROM and it only does it if it is in my pocket.
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Never happened to me. Does it happen every time?
Petrovski80 said:
Never happened to me. Does it happen every time?
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No. Only once in a while. Just wondering if it was maybe the way it sits in my pocket or if normal
Zehlek said:
No. Only once in a while. Just wondering if it was maybe the way it sits in my pocket or if normal
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Sounds rather far fetched, but is it possible you enable the power menu because of the way it's in your pocket, and then somehow once in a while the screen registers a tap on the power off button?
If it only happens once in a while and your device is otherwise OK, I can't think of any other reason.
Far out theory, but if your rom is running a custom kernel, do you have a screen off profile? If the CPU downclocks lower then it's capable of staying stable (or with too low of voltage) the phone will often shut off.
This was a problem with my old HTC EVO 3D, and the way I solved it was by buying a new battery, I am nt sure if it will get fixed by getting a new battery in your case tho.
madmajd said:
This was a problem with my old HTC EVO 3D, and the way I solved it was by buying a new battery, I am nt sure if it will get fixed by getting a new battery in your case tho.
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That appears to have been the issue. I just bought a new battery and it hasn't happened since. Thanks for the suggestion.

Will LED be damaged if on for hours?

I have just installed Charging LED for Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store. It works perfectly, no complaints, but I have a doubt.
If the LED of the phone is on constantly for hours, is there a threat of it getting damaged or some other side effects taking place?
I wanna use this app, but I'm a bit scared about the hardware side effects it MAY have.
Kindly enlighten me on this topic.
Thanks.
I don't think so.
i had it on my motorola defy and and now on Gnex and it works fine on both.
i use light flow(the best one for our phone)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlite&hl=en
AbhishekS said:
I have just installed Charging LED for Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store. It works perfectly, no complaints, but I have a doubt.
If the LED of the phone is on constantly for hours, is there a threat of it getting damaged or some other side effects taking place?
I wanna use this app, but I'm a bit scared about the hardware side effects it MAY have.
Kindly enlighten me on this topic.
Thanks.
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I`ll suppose battery life will be the negative side effect.
kanpurite said:
I don't think so.
i had it on my motorola defy and and now on Gnex and it works fine on both.
i use light flow(the best one for our phone)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlite&hl=en
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Well thanks for the suggestion. I don't think Light Flow has the charging light option. The app I have mentioned keeps the LED light on (not just blinking) for all the time the phone is being charged.
gaich said:
I`ll suppose battery life will be the negative side effect.
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Hmmm.. I don't think so, as the LED will be on only when the phone is being charged. Or am I wrong?
AbhishekS said:
Well thanks for the suggestion. I don't think Light Flow has the charging light option. The app I have mentioned keeps the LED light on (not just blinking) for all the time the phone is being charged.
Hmmm.. I don't think so, as the LED will be on only when the phone is being charged. Or am I wrong?
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Yeah if you are charging then battery life wouldn't be a problem. I have never heard of any negative side effects to using a LED app. Go for it, it will be grand
jd1001 said:
Yeah if you are charging then battery life wouldn't be a problem. I have never heard of any negative side effects to using a LED app. Go for it, it will be grand
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Yes, even I have never ever had any issues with LED apps, but this one is different. It will be ON constantly, not just blinking. And it will be ON for hours at a stretch, with just makes me a little worried.
Can the color leave a permanent mark, similar to some pixels that sometime get stuck to the screen?
AbhishekS said:
Yes, even I have never ever had any issues with LED apps, but this one is different. It will be ON constantly, not just blinking. And it will be ON for hours at a stretch, with just makes me a little worried.
Can the color leave a permanent mark, similar to some pixels that sometime get stuck to the screen?
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Not sure about permanent mark but here is some info on life expectancy
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/led-luminaries/uncategorized/led-life-expectancy-2009-02/
Well that's good and bad too. Some LEDs may last just a year is what it says, so that's dangerous!
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Just so you know light flow has options for low battery, charging battery, and charged battery. You can set it to always stay on instead of blinking also.
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LED's don't get stuck on or anything negative if left on for hours. The only downside is LED's are rated for a certain number of hours. Being constantly on will use those hours up significantly faster than just blinking. On the upside, LED's are usually rated for 25,000, 50,000 and even up to 100,000 hours. So even if you charge your phone for 8 hours a day you have quite a few years of use.

HTC One M8s power on and heat issues?

I have flashed [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][m8qlul] LineageOS 15.1 for HTC One M8s for someone and it is working really great. The only serious issue, which existed on stock years ago, is the main reason they stopped using the phone in the past - sometimes when the phone is off it could take between 5 and 30 minutes of pressing the power button to turn it back on. Sometimes it will turn back on very easily, other times like last night it took nearly 30 minutes, of holding the power button down for various lengths of time ranging from several seconds to more than 90 seconds, with and without volume down or volume up, and it finally normally booted after letting it charge for about 15 minutes to around 75%.
The user remembers in the past that if the battery went completely dead they would have to charge it to 100% or close to it before it would turn on again. They are now trying not to turn it off but if they could rest assured if it does end up off it will turn on again without issue, finding a way to manually apply a security patch if possible, would be all that is stopping this being a viable replacement, and save them having to spend on a new phone.
The back cover gets very hot (not just warm) but this only seems to be when booting.
Have any of you experienced any of this, and is there a fix?
well , do not own the m8s but isnt there a low battery warning built in? (also am not using that rom). or an app that would do the same thing? set warning at whatever batt. % they choose and never have to worry about a completely drained battery and phone turning off.
also , is there possibility of a faulty power button?
are they using a case that wont let heat dissipate?
just some thoughts. good luck with getring a fix.
mrrocketdog said:
well , do not own the m8s but isnt there a low battery warning built in? (also am not using that rom). or an app that would do the same thing? set warning at whatever batt. % they choose and never have to worry about a completely drained battery and phone turning off.
also , is there possibility of a faulty power button?
are they using a case that wont let heat dissipate?
just some thoughts. good luck with getring a fix.
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Thanks for the input. I know I have low battery blinking light set up on my own device with Revenge OS Android 10 but I'm not sure it's on Oreo - I will check and see if there is an app. Even when the screen is on the power button is hit and miss but way less responsive on lower battery. Would eBay be the best place to find a replacement, and perhaps use a YouTube teardown for reference? I want to get them a case as a gift but they don't use one at the moment. Most of the phone (cover? chassis?) is metallic.
runswithascript said:
Thanks for the input. I know I have low battery blinking light set up on my own device with Revenge OS Android 10 but I'm not sure it's on Oreo - I will check and see if there is an app. Even when the screen is on the power button is hit and miss but way less responsive on lower battery. Would eBay be the best place to find a replacement, and perhaps use a YouTube teardown for reference? I want to get them a case as a gift but they don't use one at the moment. Most of the phone (cover? chassis?) is metallic.
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for me yes & yes . amazon and youtube for a vid.
there is also a sight https://www.ifixit.com/# , i've never used myself but have seen it referenced alot. i believe they have teardown guides , a community for support , and possibly tools (if needed). not sure about parts.
but those 3 would be my go-tos if there was nothing here on xda.
not sure about cases. surely somewhere on the www is a review of cases if you dont already have one in mind.
stay safe & good luck.

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