more RAM?? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok so i know this is a stupped question maybe but is there any way to expand my ram in this phone seeing i dont have the means to buy a newer phone???? i mean is there a back door in a rom im not seeing to use some of the internal mem for it or my sd card idk?? not looking to be blasted but any help would be thanked

tysonr78 said:
ok so i know this is a stupped question maybe but is there any way to expand my ram in this phone seeing i dont have the means to buy a newer phone???? i mean is there a back door in a rom im not seeing to use some of the internal mem for it or my sd card idk?? not looking to be blasted but any help would be thanked
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Not really, though AOSP ROMs will show more RAM available than Sense-based ROMs will. Also, most AOSP roms like CM will let you do things like enable zRAM and some other tweaks that can help with memory management. Also there are hacks out there that will let you set up a swap file on your sdcard, but that will wear out an sdcard pretty quickly. But it's not like the Galaxy Nexus where you can reclaim some memory that is normally reserved for 1080p video recording.

Thank you. I'm running the newer pacman and gapp for this phone. I've seen that its what takes up most the ram on this phone and its lacking in the ram department lol
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tysonr78 said:
Thank you. I'm running the newer pacman and gapp for this phone. I've seen that its what takes up most the ram on this phone and its lacking in the ram department lol
Sent from my ADR6300 using xda app-developers app
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If you are concerned about maximizing the RAM on this phone, use a Sense 1.0 ROM (Gingerbread) or CM 6.1/7 or as they are lighter on RAM for this device as compared to newer ROMs.

If your goal is to gain more space to hold more applications, you might want to try the Ext4 mod. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038

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[Q] Another daft question

I finally installed SuperNova 2.1.0.0 and works great. Maybe it's me, but I dont see a great deal of difference between the stock rom which I upgraded from and SupaNova, apart from a couple of extra apps.
Can anyone tell me what the main differences are? or are they behind the scenes type of stuff.
Thanks
I think the main difference really is DATA2SD - will give you a lot more space for apps etc.
yep, that is a fab feature, so a big thumbs up there, got just under 2gb of internal space! Seems a bit quicker that my old 2.2 stock.
Do you know if custom roms in general are optimized for speed/batt usage etc?
Thanks
Its the kernel that's responsible for that so depends what kernel the rom comes with
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks, thats helpful.

[Q] Low memory space on HTC Desire

I've just made a fresh install of android 2.3.3 but the phone keeps saying I have low memory (<20MB) on it. I've used app2sd to place ALL of the apps on the SD but no help still. I've tried some forums allready but I still have no idea how to fix this. Sometimes it can't even open my sms as it says the problem again is memory low.
If anyone can redirect me to some page or forum where this is resolved, or help me solve the problem.
Really sorry for taking your time if the solution is easier to find on google than I thought but I had no luck finding it.
Thanks in advance.
Other info: s-off-ed, android installed from http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads , for any other info just ask.
Also SD is 4gb.
With app2sd you will be able to move apps to SD (FAT32-partition) if the developer of the app included this feature. So I recommend to partiton your SD card with a FAT32 and an EXT4-partition with at least 1 GB (partition either with GParted or your recovery, if it supports it) and flash an A2SD+ or a DATA2SD-script via recovery.
check out supernova rom by droidzone. it gives unlimited internal memory.
+1 on supernova, works great!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
+1 for Sebs Runny mede 4.0.2.se but you need s-off and cm7/r2 with A2sdsx for unlimited (almost) space and a lovely fast ROM ta boot!
Sent with Desire.
angusc said:
+1 for Sebs Runny mede 4.0.2.se but you need s-off and cm7/r2 with A2sdsx for unlimited (almost) space and a lovely fast ROM ta boot!
Sent with Desire.
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I agree Sebs Runny Mede 4.0.2.SE - super fast and stable but only if you use have CM7/R2 with A2SDSX. I have my ext 4 partition set to 1.5 GB and after install show 1 GB of internal memory for APPS. - WOW !
Thanks but I'm really keen on keeping this version of android on. I was actually wondering what could be causing this problem of low memory space as there is almost no apps on the device (I've moved everything to SD).
Could my problem be that I haven't formatted the device while I was reinstalling android or something????
So how can I solve the problem within this OS?
I can't believe that the internal disk is full when I have nothing on it. Could sms and e-mail really take that much space as I see only those two could be making the problem.
My phone says that there is 137mb used and 11free since I've installed the new OS. I thought the internal drive should be larger than that.
Really if there is no other way of solving this I might be willing to install the supernova but I'm really hoping there's some easier way.
grim2008 said:
Thanks but I'm really keen on keeping this version of android on.
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Then you have to live with it.
I was actually wondering what could be causing this problem of low memory space
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This problem of low memory space is, simply said, a problem of low memory space.
Really if there is no other way of solving this I might be willing to install the supernova but I'm really hoping there's some easier way.
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Yep, there is an easier way: Seb's Runnymede AIO 4.0.3
Ok, seriously: Rooting and flashing is not that hard and worth the effort - but I would highly recommend Seb's Runnymede over Supernova, too, as it's way more smooth than Supernova, which was extremely laggy - at least on my Desire.
Greets, Magpie
P.S.: Your SD card should be at least Class 6 (and max. 16 GB).
Magpie42 said:
but I would highly recommend Seb's Runnymede over Supernova, too, as it's way more smooth than Supernova, which was extremely laggy - at least on my Desire.
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OK, I was reading your posts in a few threads and now I see for sure you have no clue what are you talking about.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using XDA App.
erklat said:
OK, I was reading your posts in a few threads and now I see for sure you have no clue what are you talking about.
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Ah, please enlighten me, how you know.
Greets, Magpie
Magpie42 said:
Ah, please enlighten me, how you know.
Greets, Magpie
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If daily threads about smoothness and stability poping under Q&A couldn't enlighten you, I can hardly imagine there is anything I can do about that.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using XDA App.
erklat said:
If daily threads about smoothness and stability poping under Q&A couldn't enlighten you, I can hardly imagine there is anything I can do about that.
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But you could at least try - or tell my Desire about these wonderful threads, which will make it run faster. And these threads, which will void my own experiences, the ones, I've seen with my non enlightened eyes ... at least they are mine.
Greets, Magpie - just own experiences count
P.S.: You may have heard already that there are a couple of different hardware combinations out there. And perhaps my Desire is on the slow side and probably my combination of phone and card may not be the fastest around, but, nevertheless, a phone/card, being on the laggy side, is an even better meter for the performance of a ROM than a phone/card which is fast anyway and will run at lightspeed with even a croppy ROM.
grim2008 said:
Thanks but I'm really keen on keeping this version of android on. I was actually wondering what could be causing this problem of low memory space as there is almost no apps on the device (I've moved everything to SD).
Could my problem be that I haven't formatted the device while I was reinstalling android or something????
So how can I solve the problem within this OS?
I can't believe that the internal disk is full when I have nothing on it. Could sms and e-mail really take that much space as I see only those two could be making the problem.
My phone says that there is 137mb used and 11free since I've installed the new OS. I thought the internal drive should be larger than that.
Really if there is no other way of solving this I might be willing to install the supernova but I'm really hoping there's some easier way.
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Mate...as far as I can understand your issue, you do not want to change your Stock ROM but would want a space.....which I think would be a bit impossible somehow.....I mean, Come On...these guys are suggesting Great Solutions to your problem...the answer is in front of your eyes...if you're not into it then magic will most probably help you out..
So what would it be??

Energy ROM Dated 01/12/2012 not enough RAM

I attempted to return to this ROM and did the full wipe three times and then APPs started to download and got 2/3 done when I started to get low memory message. I attempted to run Ap2SD to move Davlick and got not enough memory error. It shows that I have 48MB of free memory but I have my SD card partitioned to 2GB. Any Idea?
Some roms just take up more memory than others. Less storage is sacrificed for a better rom.
sitlet said:
Some roms just take up more memory than others. Less storage is sacrificed for a better rom.
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Not actually true. AOSP are "better roms" but take up far less space.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.
KommodoreHeinz said:
Not actually true. AOSP are "better roms" but take up far less space.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.
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"better roms" is a relative term. I MUCH prefer a sense rom to an aosp one.
sitlet said:
"better roms" is a relative term. I MUCH prefer a sense rom to an aosp one.
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I know that's why I used the quotation marks. I prefer AOSP over sense any day.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.
lol i hate them bothhhh jk
i just switched to energy again with about 50 apps loaded like flash and a few games everything i need and i still got about 100mb left. i tweaked it in the kitchen for my own liking such as adding stuff like google voice and took out like car home and stuff i dont really use. anyways my suggestions would be to get that dalvik over to your sd card partition or look into how many apps u are just installing to have. i mean i still do it. I download adobe reader even though i dont need it but i dont wanna have to download it when i do.
Hey,
When you run into that partition your SD card and it will help you out man, some of those roms are monsters its just something you need to look at the pros and cons and see if its worth it! good luck
I don't get it, if you flashed to this ROM before, what could be wrong? So far it's the only ROM I've flashed, without a partitioned SD card either, and I still have plenty of space, even after installing a bunch of apps on the phone storage.

[Q] Some questions about RAM

Im currently using CM 7.1 stable rom, i noticed with Android Assistant that total available RAM shows 367,96mb is this normal? Should not be 512mb?
I have no slow issues and rom works great, from your experiences i would know if it's suggested to use V6 Supercharger (and if yes what settings) even if i use a non Sense ROM.
Thanks in advice
Simone
sigibian said:
Im currently using CM 7.1 stable rom, i noticed with Android Assistant that total available RAM shows 367,96mb is this normal? Should not be 512mb?
I have no slow issues and rom works great, from your experiences i would know if it's suggested to use V6 Supercharger (and if yes what settings) even if i use a non Sense ROM.
Thanks in advice
Simone
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Yes, thats normal. While the device has 512MB of RAM, the Graphics and radio hardware share that leaving around 384MB for Android
Craig
craiglay said:
Yes, thats normal. While the device has 512MB of RAM, the Graphics and radio hardware share that leaving around 384MB for Android
Craig
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Maybe a parallel question : How did you know if the swap partition works?
What it really does?
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oVeRdOsE. said:
Maybe a parallel question : How did you know if the swap partition works?
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Use the Terminal Emulator app. Type "free". If the swap row is not 0 then its worked.
oVeRdOsE. said:
What it really does?
Thanks
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As in "how does SWAP work?" Same as on a desktop PC. When available memory gets low, Android will move less frequently used data from RAM to the SD card. It can then move the data back if an application requires it.
Performance gain is changeable depending on what apps you run but it will shorten the life of your SD card. Its best to test it and see if you get any advantage.
Craig
It will not only shorten the life of the sdcard but also eat up more battery. Swap should only be used in Sense 3.x ROM's, but I advise against it entirely since Sense 4.0 is coming out and it's a lot lighter than it's predecessor. On AOSP ROM's (like CM or MIUI) it's rather pointless as they already have lots of free RAM.
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It will not only shorten the life of the sdcard but also eat up more battery. Swap should only be used in Sense 3.x ROM's, but I advise against it entirely since Sense 4.0 is coming out and it's a lot lighter than it's predecessor. On AOSP ROM's (like CM or MIUI) it's rather pointless as they already have lots of free RAM.
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I never experienced more battery consumption when I ran swap but that was on the stock Sense 2.1 ROM.
There was a little performance benefit for me on 2.1, apps would load really quick and app switching was quick.
I've never really tried Sense 3.x but have read its pretty much a requirement.
Sense 4.0 is very nice and light so shouldn't be needed. ICS and Sense 4 appears to use less RAM than GB and 2.1
If you need swap on ASOP (CM) you're really doing something wrong.

Is stock 4.3 better or worse update?

I have upgraded stock 4.3 device in my note 2 twice but i have noticed that its actually worse than before because it take 48 to 50 percent RAM when no applications are running in the background. System also take more space in internal memory. Gallery is looking bad as compare to 4.1.2. You get many security message and apps get forced closed..You can only pull down notification bars by dragging it from center and before you can pull it down by dragging from top corners as well. You also had all setting in one page before unlike in 4.3 where they divided system setting in 4 parts
The only improvement i found was the move to SD feature which was missing before, gear watch support is useless for anyone who don't have this watch so how is your experience and what are the improvement you noticed in 4.3 update which appeared after so long time but did not bring much improvement
Your question is not clear enough. Better or worse in comparisin to which rom??
Well, it depends on which features you want.
I am on cyanogenmod 10.2 because they have some cool stuff inside....
Some stock features i miss are the easy share via wifi-direct and the calendar.
But brings the stock 4.3 the new 'KNOX' security made by samsung?
If it is true, then you will loose your unsafed date if you root your device.
This is the main reason why i have changed to the Cyanogenmod.
But if you want to keep the touchwiz and the samsung features, look for a rom based on touchwiz
I am on Criskelo 4.3 and even though I am not fan of custom ROMs and prefer to have stock rooted ROM and then modify it with Xposed, I must say that 4.3 (and Criskelo) is just great. I had it for like 6-7 days, of which 2 days I was installing/restoring apps and had to reboot several times, but last 5 days I didn't reboot it and it has been working like a clockwork. The battery life is roughly the same, but it does feel a lot smoother. And I am NOT saying this after flashing clean ROM, but after restoring all of my +400 apps. So I don't want to advertize here, but I am 100% satisfied so far and for me 4.3 is better in terms of performance than 4.1.2.
Rajaasim1980 said:
I have upgraded stock 4.3 device in my note 2 twice but i have noticed that its actually worse than before because it take 48 to 50 percent RAM when no applications are running in the background. System also take more space in internal memory. Gallery is looking bad as compare to 4.1.2. You get many security message and apps get forced closed..You can only pull down notification bars by dragging it from center and before you can pull it down by dragging from top corners as well. You also had all setting in one page before unlike in 4.3 where they divided system setting in 4 parts
The only improvement i found was the move to SD feature which was missing before, gear watch support is useless for anyone who don't have this watch so how is your experience and what are the improvement you noticed in 4.3 update which appeared after so long time but did not bring much improvement
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There is one more thing which make N7100XXUEMK4 or later worse - the KNOX Bootloader (or KNOX Warranty Bit in Odin Mode). If you're trying to root the device, the KNOX Warranty changes to 1, which means you will lose your warranty FOREVER. Even Samsung says the warranty bit can't be zero-ed. It changes to 1 when you are:
1. Trying to root,
2. Downgrading to previous version without KNOX Bootloader.
Hope this would help you.
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Device that I'm using right now: Samsung GALAXY Note II International N7100
Firmware: Latest N7100XXUEMK4 with KNOX Bootloader *NO!!!, somebody please help me remove this idiot BL*
Recovery: CWMR Touch v6
Root: Hell yeah, of course!
obazda said:
Your question is not clear enough. Better or worse in comparisin to which rom??
Well, it depends on which features you want.
I am on cyanogenmod 10.2 because they have some cool stuff inside....
Some stock features i miss are the easy share via wifi-direct and the calendar.
But brings the stock 4.3 the new 'KNOX' security made by samsung?
If it is true, then you will loose your unsafed date if you root your device.
This is the main reason why i have changed to the Cyanogenmod.
But if you want to keep the touchwiz and the samsung features, look for a rom based on touchwiz
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Well I was comparing official stock 4.3 TW ROM with previous stock 4.1.2 TW. This official update suppose to bring more improvement but I felt its opposite as its less stable than before
How is battery life of CM/AOSP ROM compare to TW?
Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk 2
This is my battery life with cm 10.2- 20131216-nightly
(Note 2/N7100)
obazda said:
This is my battery life with cm 10.2- 20131216-nightly
(Note 2/N7100)
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I get 8 hour screen on time after heavy 3g/hspd data usage with display consume 70 percent battery and its on stock 4.1.2
And also how much RAM your system consume when no applications are running after killimg apps in task killer ?
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It is not such easy as you may think... First i habe some other apps which restarts instantly,
and second - if you just compare the Roms by their battery life... Than i would commend for example the RevolutionHD TW based Rom which has a Vetter battery life (i've never used it, but they advertise with this). I thinkbthey made the Samsung release a bit Mord stable , too
I think that the ressources which our phones provide are enough, so we can choose a Rom with the features we want to use. In cm for example they have released a secure SMS encoding -> WhisperPush.
It is like everyone sais... It depends in your requirements...
When I update my phone because im rooted I always go into recovery mode and format internal sd card and update that way you dont get all left over files from previous version always best to do fresh update after you have backed up all you files
Rajaasim1980 said:
I get 8 hour screen on time after heavy 3g/hspd data usage with display consume 70 percent battery and its on stock 4.1.2
And also how much RAM your system consume when no applications are running after killimg apps in task killer ?
Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk 2
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High RAM usage is not a bad thing. The system preloads some of the apps that you may frequently use, and when they are loaded to the RAM, you can open them faster.
You can also disable some of the apps that come with your stock 4.3 by opening the app details from Apps list.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
AzureV said:
High RAM usage is not a bad thing. The system preloads some of the apps that you may frequently use, and when they are loaded to the RAM, you can open them faster.
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I guess people just like to buy phones with 2Gb of RAM and have 1.5Gb FREE sitting there doing nothing - You won't convice them not to worry about RAM, they don't seem to realize RAM is there to be used....
dalanik said:
I guess people just like to buy phones with 2Gb of RAM and have 1.5Gb FREE sitting there doing nothing - You won't convice them not to worry about RAM, they don't seem to realize RAM is there to be used....
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MORE free RAM make multitasking faster and smoother otherwise why did they upgraded RAM from 512 MB to 1/2/3 GB..if you are using 95 percent of your RAM then it can slow down your device and tahstwhy we have task killer and software which release RAM
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On the contrary - if more RAM is used that means system is using it to speed things up Task killers are not doing anything, if they did - Google would include one in Android. I now use Cirskelo 4.3 and my RAM usage is higher than on 4.1.2 stock. But ROM is faster. Noticably. How would you explain that?
task killer are garbage..the apps you kill will automatically start itself back...and that will wasting your battery juice.
dalanik said:
On the contrary - if more RAM is used that means system is using it to speed things up Task killers are not doing anything, if they did - Google would include one in Android. I now use Cirskelo 4.3 and my RAM usage is higher than on 4.1.2 stock. But ROM is faster. Noticably. How would you explain that?
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Sorry you are not making any sense. These manufacture are not stupid to come up with 2/3 gb RAM if there is no use of it and what ROM is faster vary person to person. I have found 4.1.2 more stable and faster than all 4.3 ROMS I have tried so far
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Rajaasim1980 said:
Sorry you are not making any sense. These manufacture are not stupid to come up with 2/3 gb RAM if there is no use of it and what ROM is faster vary person to person. I have found 4.1.2 more stable and faster than all 4.3 ROMS I have tried so far
Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk 2
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Well you believe manufacturers are NOT stupid - but you believe Google is stupid in designing Android?
4.3 firmware
Rajaasim1980 said:
I have upgraded stock 4.3 device in my note 2 twice but i have noticed that its actually worse than before because it take 48 to 50 percent RAM when no applications are running in the background. System also take more space in internal memory. Gallery is looking bad as compare to 4.1.2. You get many security message and apps get forced closed..You can only pull down notification bars by dragging it from center and before you can pull it down by dragging from top corners as well. You also had all setting in one page before unlike in 4.3 where they divided system setting in 4 parts
The only improvement i found was the move to SD feature which was missing before, gear watch support is useless for anyone who don't have this watch so how is your experience and what are the improvement you noticed in 4.3 update which appeared after so long time but did not bring much improvement
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I have found the new update to 4.3 outstanding, but...I did have to remove knox and get rid of some bloat. It performs outstanding and I am very pleased. Luckily being a member here, made it easy to research and use the methods supplied by all the pro's here.
When switching between roms always format internal sd card as I have learnt if you dont it doesnt matter if you do a fresh stock rom flash with odin it still leaves files behind hope this helps
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DaveyRepairs said:
When switching between roms always format internal sd card as I have learnt if you dont it doesnt matter if you do a fresh stock rom flash with odin it still leaves files behind hope this helps
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I don't believe you have to format internal SD. If you erase CACHE, that should be enough. I didn't erase Internal SD and flashed 4.3 and everything works just fine. This is time-consuming and totaly unnecessary (to back up everything to a PC and then restore), and what's the point anyway if you're restoring? And if you don't restore, you'd loose all your data. games progress, etc. So I'd suggest first try without - if you have problems, you can always format it.
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I don't believe you have to format internal SD. If you erase CACHE, that should be enough. I didn't erase Internal SD and flashed 4.3 and everything works just fine. This is time-consuming and totaly unnecessary (to back up everything to a PC and then restore), and what's the point anyway if you're restoring? And if you don't restore, you'd loose all your data. games progress, etc. So I'd suggest first try without - if you have problems, you can always format it.
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My phone is 16gb sometimes when I dont format the internal sd I end up with 6gb free but now I end up with 9gb free
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