[Q] Another daft question - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I finally installed SuperNova 2.1.0.0 and works great. Maybe it's me, but I dont see a great deal of difference between the stock rom which I upgraded from and SupaNova, apart from a couple of extra apps.
Can anyone tell me what the main differences are? or are they behind the scenes type of stuff.
Thanks

I think the main difference really is DATA2SD - will give you a lot more space for apps etc.

yep, that is a fab feature, so a big thumbs up there, got just under 2gb of internal space! Seems a bit quicker that my old 2.2 stock.
Do you know if custom roms in general are optimized for speed/batt usage etc?
Thanks

Its the kernel that's responsible for that so depends what kernel the rom comes with
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Thanks, thats helpful.

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[Q] Favourite ROM with Sense UI

Hi just about to to root my Desire - I wonder if anyone could tell me their favourite ROM with Sense UI included (I like it!)
bump! anyone? ... going to step in randomly in bit otherwise
I have Leedroid, it's pretty good, fast and stable and has apps2sd+ (for my the main reason to root and flash) but I dislike the duplication of many apps for which sense has an alternative (eg an android and htc dialer and phonebook) so you are confronted with a choice between these apps in many instances. I would choose teppic74's rom if I hadn't installed leedroid. That said it isn't annoying enough to go trough a a reinstall and setup of the phone, so I will stick with leedroid
I also tried Aurax-Sense but really didn't like the theme otherwise it seemed quite okay
Go for Aurex T-sense...Its the best,flawless and fast I have come across so far...
Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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That sounds good how do you replace a theme?
and what is the 'drag and drop' function? Thx!
i got leedroids rom dont seem to have a problem with it
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Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
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No actually it does not have a lot of memory for apps it gets full really fast, that's why everybody is using A2SD. Froyo has it's own A2SD but it's not as good as it can't install all apps to SD only those designed for it.
Personally I think it's a must.
I'm using the Alex-V 1.7 Rom, I like it as it is not too far off from an official Rom and has a couple tricks to save power. Now with S-OFF we can delete apps we dont want directly from the phone too so everything has become a lot easier.
pinky desire is also a stable one. with sense ui, no FC, and somehow long battery life. IMO. but it really depends on how you will use your phone. different people. different tastes. anyway you can try different roms. that's Android for you!
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Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
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Well for starters it misses the little indicator to show you on which homescreen you are and I didn't like the transparent notification bar, looked too messy with the background and I didn't like the exorbitant use of color in the notification icons, also too messy
btw I would also stay away from roms that undervolt/underclock it's generally bad for your battery life because the CPU is much more energy efficient when it can enter its sleepstate. Underclocking makes tasks take longer and prevent the cpu from sleeping
Thanks for the advice everyone some good tips there I guess I'll do a bit more reading and try one out! Alex, pinky, Leedroid - ok!

AOSP vs Sence - Available Memory

Hey all, This is my 1st real post so I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section or if it has been asked before.
Pretty much I have had my Evo rooted now for about a year and flash a new rom when ever I get bored. I just discovered MIUI Rom and really like it, but there are a few things from Sence I miss and I just like to go back and forth when I get bored. Okay sorry i'm just rambling now.
The question. Why am I having 230+ mb of free memory on miui but when I flashed back over to Synergy I hardly have 100 mb of free memory and it feels like it lags a little. Maybe I'm just spoiled by miui but it seems like I should be able to have more memory than that. Is there anyway to get more memory or just make the sence rom feel like its smoother.
Again, sorry for rambling and being a noob, but im learning.
Thanks in advance for any help I get.
It's because sense takes up a lot of memory. I'm on miui myself. I like syngery but not a sense fan esp with all the sense bloat.
Sent from Raiden the EVO w/ MIUI via the XDA app.
I just put MIKG 2.41 on my wifes and it had 347mb free after install, and 250 ish after reinstalling her apps. And so far it is ultra smooth. I was debating on the two, Synergy and Mikg, and went with the later because I played with a Synergy phone and it was laggy also. This was also our first rom,
Boltons75 said:
I just put MIKG 2.41 on my wifes and it had 347mb free after install, and 250 ish after reinstalling her apps. And so far it is ultra smooth. I was debating on the two, Synergy and Mikg, and went with the later because I played with a Synergy phone and it was laggy also. This was also our first rom,
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Just to be clear, we're talking about memory, right? Not storage?
If we're talking about memory, I've noticed this too with the Sense 2.1/3.0 ROMs such as Synergy and MikG. I've been on CM7 for a long time and wanted to try these out. They're both nice -- some things are really, really nice, but I also miss a few things from CM. The memory may be the dealbreaker for me though. If I load up Slacker and start playing it, then leave it playing while I open up GMail, the CNN app, or whatever, it often gets low on memory and kills off Slacker (despite that the ongoing notification from Slacker should tell it to kill it only as a last resort). I never had those problems on CM7, or on the old Sense 1.0 ROMs.
Ah, well I was talking about free storage on the phone. What do you use to check the actual free memory?
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Boltons75 said:
Ah, well I was talking about free storage on the phone. What do you use to check the actual free memory?
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There should be an easier way to check actual memory on these phones. :-D good question. but yeah storage.... I have SOO MANY lag issues with sense! Whenever that memory gets to about 104 or less. LAG! major lag.
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Ah, well I was talking about free storage on the phone. What do you use to check the actual free memory?
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Actually, one thing I've noticed is that there are two places in both Synergy and MikG that show it, and they don't agree. One is the Quick Settings on the notification bar. Right now it says 74.35MB free. The other is Settings -> Applications -> Manage -> Running. There it says 157MB free. I'm not sure which is right. Even 74MB free doesn't sound too bad, but my experience is that it's killing apps much more aggressively than I'd expect.
Ok, in quick settings it shows about 110 available.
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Thanks for all the responses guys. Yeah I'm talking about the available Ram (Memory). Storage isn't a problem since we have our sd cards. But yeah 104 seems to be about all I get with Sence. I went to Mikg from Miui and it seems to running alot better then Synergy did. Even though both showed the same amount of free ram. Synergy we just really laggy as someone else said earlier. Does anyone know of any apps that can help cut the memory being used? Miui and Mikg both have built in ways of showing your avaliable memery and Miui was always 200-250 after I killed aLL apps but only about 110 tops on Mikg. Also does it have anything to do with the size of the rom? Like Miui is a 75 mb zip while mikg is like 250 mb.
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Thanks for all the responses guys. Yeah I'm talking about the available Ram (Memory). Storage isn't a problem since we have our sd cards. But yeah 104 seems to be about all I get with Sence. I went to Mikg from Miui and it seems to running alot better then Synergy did. Even though both showed the same amount of free ram. Synergy we just really laggy as someone else said earlier. Does anyone know of any apps that can help cut the memory being used? Miui and Mikg both have built in ways of showing your avaliable memery and Miui was always 200-250 after I killed aLL apps but only about 110 tops on Mikg. Also does it have anything to do with the size of the rom? Like Miui is a 75 mb zip while mikg is like 250 mb.
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Sense dude. Sense. S-e-n-s-e. Sorry, just couldn't let it go anymore.
I think that the Sense 2.1+3.0 ROMs may just be pushing the limits of what can be done with our phones. If you look a the phones that come with Sense 3.0, they've got 1GB of RAM. Now Sense 2.1 has been given to other phones with 512MB, such as the Evo Shift, but I don't know how much extra RAM is taken by the 3.0 bits in MikG and Synergy.
I think the devs have done a great job, and honestly, both ROMs run very well as far as foreground activities go, in my experience. But I definitely think we're losing some ability to multitask effectively with these ROMs.

[Q] Cyanogen 7.x stable enough for non-tech user?

Considering installing CM on my wife's Desire because of the not enough space limitation for new apps etc. Will CM work for a non-tech user (my wife is NOT very keen on new tech) in an everyday use situation? Will this solve the "out-of-space-problem"?
well am very new at this & i was told to try WildMild v5 on my phone its just as good if not lots better that the maufactured one that came with the phone i hope this helps
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well am very new at this & i was told to try WildMild v5 on my phone its just as good if not lots better that the maufactured one that came with the phone i hope this helps
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Thanks. This ROM solves the out of space issue?
yes i just put all the apps on my sd card, it also got rid of all them hard to remove apps put on at manufacture it this helps dont forget to press the thanks button lol
borchgrevink said:
Thanks. This ROM solves the out of space issue?
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Flash cm7r2 hboot for anything CM7 based, it will yield about twice more internal memory for apps.
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borchgrevink said:
Considering installing CM on my wife's Desire because of the not enough space limitation for new apps etc. Will CM work for a non-tech user (my wife is NOT very keen on new tech) in an everyday use situation? Will this solve the "out-of-space-problem"?
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If it's non tech user then I would suggest you take a look at Oxygen rom. Less menus to navigate, less mistakes. CM7 can get most non tech lost with all the options available. It can even be overwhelming for casual users in my opinion. :highfive:
I solved out of space issues by partitioning my SD card and installing S2e. On my old Desire running CM7 my free space went from 12Mb to 74Mb!
lol i got 1.1gb internal memory left :what:
fairly easy with cyanogenmod7 and has no effect on speed. from what iv noticed anyway. but like stankyou says cyanogenmod7 has a few settings in the cyanogenmod settings that if u didnt what they did, it could make it unstable, crash etc. like performance, CPU min - max etc
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lol i got 1.1gb internal memory left :what:
fairly easy with cyanogenmod7 and has no effect on speed. from what iv noticed anyway. but like stankyou says cyanogenmod7 has a few settings in the cyanogenmod settings that if u didnt what they did, it could make it unstable, crash etc. like performance, CPU min - max etc
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She would never mess with the settings, so I would just like to install the most stable ROM with memory issue sorted out. So, what to choose?
Oxygen with Oxygenr2 hboot
OR
An-droid with Oxygenr2 hboot if she prefers sense UI.
OR
Nikez JB p11 of course. It is going to be recommended anyway so I could be first too.
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j/k on the last
erklat said:
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Nikez JB p11 of course. It is going to be recommended anyway so I could be first too.
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i think il sig just this part
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[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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more RAM??

ok so i know this is a stupped question maybe but is there any way to expand my ram in this phone seeing i dont have the means to buy a newer phone???? i mean is there a back door in a rom im not seeing to use some of the internal mem for it or my sd card idk?? not looking to be blasted but any help would be thanked
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ok so i know this is a stupped question maybe but is there any way to expand my ram in this phone seeing i dont have the means to buy a newer phone???? i mean is there a back door in a rom im not seeing to use some of the internal mem for it or my sd card idk?? not looking to be blasted but any help would be thanked
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Not really, though AOSP ROMs will show more RAM available than Sense-based ROMs will. Also, most AOSP roms like CM will let you do things like enable zRAM and some other tweaks that can help with memory management. Also there are hacks out there that will let you set up a swap file on your sdcard, but that will wear out an sdcard pretty quickly. But it's not like the Galaxy Nexus where you can reclaim some memory that is normally reserved for 1080p video recording.
Thank you. I'm running the newer pacman and gapp for this phone. I've seen that its what takes up most the ram on this phone and its lacking in the ram department lol
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tysonr78 said:
Thank you. I'm running the newer pacman and gapp for this phone. I've seen that its what takes up most the ram on this phone and its lacking in the ram department lol
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If you are concerned about maximizing the RAM on this phone, use a Sense 1.0 ROM (Gingerbread) or CM 6.1/7 or as they are lighter on RAM for this device as compared to newer ROMs.
If your goal is to gain more space to hold more applications, you might want to try the Ext4 mod. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038

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