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[Q] My Desire HD is very slow?

Hi all,
I got my Desire HD about 4 weeks ago, and used it quite a lot, with barely any apps installed. (I never use app killers by the way) Over time i realised it was actually acting quite slow for a phone with it's spec, so i asked Vodafone and they sent me another one.
My new one, that i've had for 2 weeks now is still slow for what i would expect from a phone like this, and i'm not just being fussy either.
My friend has an X10 mini, and was showing me the other day, and i was shocked at how much more responsive and faster it is than my Desire HD, so i looked up lag issues and found xda developers.
I tried enabling USB debugging, checked for the latest update, rebooted etc.. it feels like i'm only getting, what... 25 frames per second at best? usually looks about 20 (in menus) when compared to my friends X10 mini, his looks as if it's easily scrolling up and down the drop down or popup menu with all of your apps in it, at 60 frames, (something above 30 anyway with NO lag whatsoever) and i have yet to flick my menu without seeing some degree of jitter while scrolling. I downloaded the Quadrant Benchmark and found I got 2002 Points, which when looked at in the graph.. there is no way the x10 mini could even scratch the DHD's score... so...
WHY does my phone feel sluggish? Is this normal or should I be concerned?
Thanks
-J

Here is what i did:
- Install ES Task Manager and add the widget and run it often. (Make sure to add the apps to the ignore list that you do not want to close)
- Remove as many widgets as possible from screen
- Install LauncherPro (It speeded things up a hell of alot for me)
- And most importantly, if your SD Card has a lot of stuff on it (Music etc) then delete as much as you can. The less on your SD Card the faster it will be.

I've Tried that...
Hey, before I wrote this, I tried formatting the phone and did a factory reset, the menu STILL lags and jitters quite a bit. Surely this isn't supposed to happen on a fresh version of the phone with NO user junk on there? and I've heard that task kilelrs are bad for the system, usually doing more damage than good.

Do you have anything on the SD Card?
I am not sure about that, the task manager on mine seems to be very good, i have stopped it from closing important apps which need to be open though.

Hmmm
No i don't have much on the SD, olny the files that the phone adds itself, i tried removing all of my user data already, still no sucess.

Try the task manager if you wish. It works perfectly fine for me and i have been using it for months.

OK
I just tried the task manager... made a little difference, but the menus still lag!

Try turning Auto Sync off for a while too... I am unsure why the menus are lagging. Mine seem fine. What menus lag?

The one where you tap the arrow in the bottom left, and all of your apps are on one page lags the worst. sometimes scrolling on the home screen too.

install launcherpro!!! the menu will ALLWAYS be laggy on ****ty HTC Roms..

brugernavn said:
install launcherpro!!! the menu will ALLWAYS be laggy on ****ty HTC Roms..
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Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD

dr.m0x said:
Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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What sort of setup do you have on your phone? What apps etc?

I don't have any performance issues with my stock DHD. I even have a bunch of widgets too.
Sent from my Desire HD

Why would htc release a laggy OS? surely that isn't a very good selling point for their top device?

I don't think they did.
Sent from my Desire HD

Jord-22 said:
Why would htc release a laggy OS? surely that isn't a very good selling point for their top device?
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Yes, I have seen the lags in my 3 weeks old DHD. It is very annoying and I don't understand why HTC doesn't address the issues and only focus on new product development.
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dr.m0x said:
Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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same here, i`m using stock rom 1.72 flashed via RUU, OP maybe try to back`up your rom and flash a custom rom like revo or leedroid and see how it is...

ok try watchtower
and see how much RAM is used.
try to use another ROM, not sure if your service provider accept it.
i am sure it is a software added by your provider, or some settings needed.
i would go to:
- format the SD card - don't forget to back it up
- full reset my phone
still same problem ..... find a clean ROM and flash it.

jmohik said:
ok try watchtower
and see how much RAM is used.
try to use another ROM, not sure if your service provider accept it.
i am sure it is a software added by your provider, or some settings needed.
i would go to:
- format the SD card - don't forget to back it up
- full reset my phone
still same problem ..... find a clean ROM and flash it.
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That is what I thought too! I think its your provider. Especially when getting new phone from the same provider and the laggs are still there. I would suggest to try another Rom. Clean from such ****ty provider Stuff.
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Jord-22 said:
Hi all,
I got my Desire HD about 4 weeks ago, and used it quite a lot, with barely any apps installed. (I never use app killers by the way) Over time i realised it was actually acting quite slow for a phone with it's spec, so i asked Vodafone and they sent me another one.
My new one, that i've had for 2 weeks now is still slow for what i would expect from a phone like this, and i'm not just being fussy either.
My friend has an X10 mini, and was showing me the other day, and i was shocked at how much more responsive and faster it is than my Desire HD, so i looked up lag issues and found xda developers.
I tried enabling USB debugging, checked for the latest update, rebooted etc.. it feels like i'm only getting, what... 25 frames per second at best? usually looks about 20 (in menus) when compared to my friends X10 mini, his looks as if it's easily scrolling up and down the drop down or popup menu with all of your apps in it, at 60 frames, (something above 30 anyway with NO lag whatsoever) and i have yet to flick my menu without seeing some degree of jitter while scrolling. I downloaded the Quadrant Benchmark and found I got 2002 Points, which when looked at in the graph.. there is no way the x10 mini could even scratch the DHD's score... so...
WHY does my phone feel sluggish? Is this normal or should I be concerned?
Thanks
-J
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I have 1 month old DHD, no lag so far on ordinary use.
But i notice 1 think that make it lag.
When i browse internet, HSDPA & 3g signal no problem, but when Edge signal, than lag start to happen, some time its hang few second!! & my DHD start heating warm under battery..
Even tho i click usb debug, stil lag.
Only way to make sure its not lag is to use only HSDPA & 3g signal while browse..
I use stock rom, no root.
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[SOLVED] GPU performance decreased at least about 40%

I (still) love my Desire, unfortunately after two weeks of usage or so the screen starts annoying me! Any live wallpaper is unusable due choppy home screen scrolling and some menus like "All Apps" or "Customize" become very slow at the bottom. At first I thought it was problem of custom ROM, but this is happening even on stock ROM, so it's probably a HW problem (GPU maybe?).
Can someone help me?
Thanks.

HW problem? Don't think so. However, can be, but it's not likely.
I suggest to try a different kernel and if that not helps do a full wipe & reflash.
I see, that we use the same radio & kernel (except that I'm on LeeDroid) - but i never experienced that slowdowns.

Nah, coutts, CM, HTC, ziggy... All the same.

Try changing your governor
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Maybe a ram thing .... i use (i know not all think this is good but) a taskmanager with a auto close apps widget
with kind regards...Alex

Still the same and I have plenty of free RAM.

If your device can still play 3d intensive games without slow downs or errors then I doubt it's a hardware problem. So...Does it play games properly?

Recommend such game that is OK on your Desire, so we can compare.

Try nenamark (1.5 free in the market). I get 20.9 FPS with the stuff in my signature. So if you get more than 15 then I think it won't be a hardware problem.
Also I noticed the lag when something is installing. So can be the a2sd+ slowing down your phone.

It can't be due A2SD (read OP).
Btw, I got 18,6 FPS.

Hmm, then the gpu/cpu seems to be fine. Must be a software error.

But what SW? Every ROM and every kernel behave in the same way.

That's what I try to figure out. So if you do a full wipe & changing ROM - Lag remains.
Changing kernel - lag remains.
Seriously, I have no idea. Usually a full wipe & reflash helps (ROM+kernel).
Can't it be the radio?

Can't be, this problem started in virgin stock ROM (I have copyright on that ).

Have you tried aosp roms its probaly a HTC sense issue
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

AOSP ROMs have the same issue.

maybe your NAND got corrupted in some way?
maybe after you install new ROM try not to restore your previous apps or system setting with neither titanium backup or mybackup, whichever you use.
however,i would assume you tried that already.
also you could try going back to stock ROM and or even HD rom which fits on NAND and try booting without SD card which maybe trying to read something and it cant.
so was your phone branded?
and when did you noticed this performance issue?

Unbraded. And I noticed it during using stock ROM.

Don't know if its just imagination but i think my desire has also gotten more laggy lately.

My phone has definitely slowed down LWPs are pretty much unusable & Sense always slows right down at the bottom of some menus, including the app drawer.

Best Sense ROM atm?

Hi folks,
What do you consider to be the best, fastest, most stable, battery saving, whatever Sense ROM for the Desire atm and why?
Simple question, but there are so many GB 2.1 Sense + some 3.0 Sense etc. kinda ROM's out there that it might be interesting to see which one is clearly XDA's favourite and why. What is the difference between all these ROM's and why do you use the one you flashed?
Any answers/input is highly appreciated
Feel free to discuss...

There is no best rom at all. It depends on personal preferences. Just test.

Oh great another best Rom thread to add to the other 100 already made.....
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I will recommend AcesMod007, it's very fast, stable with good battery

i would thoroughly recommend insertcoin,
i have been running it for the last few weeks/month and so far i am very happy with it,
the only problem seems to be 720p video recording lag and also it stretches videos in portrait mode but they come out ok when played on pc,
apart from that i get no lag at all when using the phone, battery isnt as bad as people say and the sense 2.1/3.0 mix is rather sexy,
all taht said i would also recommend to try out a couple of roms, just remember to take a nandroid backup and revert back to a previous one if/when you wish,

Mine is surely not the best. But you can give a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210178

I am on AcesMod007 (not 3d) and am also constantly searching for fastest sense rom (but must be very stable).
Previous rom was rcmix 2.0 - a GREAT rom, actually perfect for me, but I could always use less lag (esp. when scrolling), and that's why I am now trying AcesMod007.
I still cannot say it's much faster than rcmix, and it lags a little on the lock screen. On remix, lock screen never lagged (I use the normal - wallpaper one) Scrolling is much better, though.
To the future "Oh no, another best rom thread" remarks:
I like to read these threads and find them very informative. I am sure that many others do, too. Just don't join, read or reply if you don't like them. And roms are constantly evolving, especially for our beloved Desire! So a fresh start every now and then is really great imho.

sudkcoce said:
I am on AcesMod007 (not 3d) and am also constantly searching for fastest sense rom (but must be very stable).
Previous rom was rcmix 2.0 - a GREAT rom, actually perfect for me, but I could always use less lag (esp. when scrolling), and that's why I am now trying AcesMod007.
I still cannot say it's much faster than rcmix, and it lags a little on the lock screen. On remix, lock screen never lagged (I use the normal - wallpaper one) Scrolling is much better, though.
To the future "Oh no, another best rom thread" remarks:
I like to read these threads and find them very informative. I am sure that many others do, too. Just don't join, read or reply if you don't like them. And roms are constantly evolving, especially for our beloved Desire! So a fresh start every now and then is really great imho.
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Hi Sudkcoe,
I'm also on the .v32 of AcesMod007 (not 3d) and had the lag on the lockscreen too. Also had it in .v31
Today I tried the little update from PlayPetepp which pretty much eliminated the lag prob.
Check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16641755&postcount=1485
If you look further in the main post it'll tell you where to copy the 3 files to.
Hope it help

JaisonGJI1815 said:
Hi Sudkcoe,
I'm also on the .v32 of AcesMod007 (not 3d) and had the lag on the lockscreen too. Also had it in .v31
Today I tried the little update from PlayPetepp which pretty much eliminated the lag prob.
Check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16641755&postcount=1485
If you look further in the main post it'll tell you where to copy the 3 files to.
Hope it help
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Also just to let you know when my screen is off the phone uses anything between 5mA to 15mA

Hi,
Thanks for all the replies so far. I am currently on LeeDoird GB 3.0.8.2 and I really like it. It is fast, stable and together with SetCPU and Juice Defender i get easily 3-4 days of juice out of my desire
However, no Sense 3.0 And not sure how long this version will still get updates cause Lee starts focusing on his HD port and other devices...
So thats why i thought a best Sense-ROM thread might be useful, especially because there's lots of movement/developments recently and lots of ROMs look pretty similar but are so different when you flash em: So keep the feedback coming
I am still looking for my perfect Sense-ROM ^^

LeeDroid 3.3.3 HD. I've just come from AcesMod007 (v29) and have seen battery life almost double, fantastic stability, no FC's or anything. I'll be sticking with this for some time methinks.

I'll definitely check out the HD Lee Droid sometime soon. However, reports vary from awesome to a little buggy so i am not sure what to think of it yet...

I have two friends who too were on Aces007 move to this and they confirm my findings, it's extremely stable and battery life is massively improved.

Mahlzahn said:
Hi,
Thanks for all the replies so far. I am currently on LeeDoird GB 3.0.8.2 and I really like it. It is fast, stable and together with SetCPU and Juice Defender i get easily 3-4 days of juice out of my desire
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You can not get easily 3-4 days in any rom with desire if you use your phone at all...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Try coolexe`s roms

Xinot said:
You can not get easily 3-4 days in any rom with desire if you use your phone at all...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I had 3 days and 8 hours on battery and like 20% left. During these 3 days, as i already stated, i didn't use it a lot except for some calls, sms and the active email sync (once an hour). I even listened to music for 5 minutes...so believe it or not. Why should i bull**** here
If you use it normally (including surfing, readings newssfeeds, listening to music) i still get 2 days easily.

I have tried most sense Roms including insertcoin, acemod but I have found sense 1.9 ROMs the quickest and most stable.
Teppics Rom is very good but the best is leedroid 3.0.8.2 as it does not lag at all.

I'm on AceSMod007-3D atm. Its all works surprisingly well and there is very little lag when simply moving about the homescreen. There's been lag with some widgets apparently but i only use weather and mail and they both seem fine. Also don't use the system restore in it. i did after screwing up my contacts and it screwed up all the A2SD+ stuff, had to uninstall and re-install all my apps to free up space on my internal again.

I use Insert Coin at the moment after using CM7 for a while.
I have seen a good improvement in responsiveness and battery life, I get through the day most of the time, but battery could still be better.

braddersss said:
i would thoroughly recommend insertcoin
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I agree. Simply awesome... although the snooze/ dismiss buttons on the lock screen are fiddly... maybe it's just me

[Q] Ram Issues??

So, my problem is that every ROM I flash that isn't htc sense, like cyanogenmod for instance, my ram fills up to the max. Progressively after using the phone for about an hour (it, generally being very, very fast), it'll slow right down. I got to my running apps to find out if anything is running up my ram, close everything, and I still have 0.0 bytes of free ram... like, wtf? I'm decently experienced with android coding and thought I'd seen it all.. Any help?
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Hey! Sorry for not checking back for so long, I thought the thread was dead.
Just to clarify me and Lars problem for anyone who's trying to help:
We can run any sense based rom 100% okay, I've even tried the new MIUI (sense based) and it works flawlessly(the ram issue I mean). With any ROM on ics or jb that is NOT sense based, our phone will freak out after a short amount of usage and lock up really horribly, to the point of complete silence from the device. It just won't do anything.
Now, I've managed to narrow down the problem myself, although I can't really act on it because I'm not experienced with coding at all. I believe the phones RAM gets taken up because of the com.android.media process. This process will open when the phone turns on and will try to scan for new media, although something strange happens. My RAM continues to fill up for as long as this process is running, the number or free mb slowly getting smaller, until it reaches zero. When this happens, the media process (along with most other processes that would still be running) throw themselves into a loop of restarting and restarting again, until I eventually manage to click the stop button. However, this doesn't help. The phone remains in it's intensively laggy state.
Can anyone help?
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I've managed to discover more information about this problem, and it appears to be stemming from my SD Card. When my sd card is not inserted, media storage doesn't have to run. The phone runs smoothly when this happens, and I have almost 100 mb of RAM free. Although, once I insert the card, media storage starts up and eats up all the RAM on the device until the number reaches 0.0bytes free, in which case the device becomes inoperable. This trend will not change, and I'd like to see if anyone can help me out.
Many thanks,
Marcus // Rekreant

I have the exact same problem. For me it came after a repair under warranty by HTC. Did you get a repair too? If so HTC probally screwed us.
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lars1216 said:
I have the exact same problem. For me it came after a repair under warranty by HTC. Did you get a repair too? If so HTC probally screwed us.
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No, because sadly it works fine with the HTC stock ROM so I can't call their bluff on it.. I need to figure this out though, sense is killing me. I need my aosp or miui fix ahha

same. but i dont know the problem than, for me it worked just fine on cm10 before the repair, flashed back to stock, send it in for repair, got it back, reflashed cm10 or any other cm based rom for that matter and had ram problems, so in my case i think htc screwed me. here's to hoping someone may know a fix

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same. but i dont know the problem than, for me it worked just fine on cm10 before the repair, flashed back to stock, send it in for repair, got it back, reflashed cm10 or any other cm based rom for that matter and had ram problems, so in my case i think htc screwed me. here's to hoping someone may know a fix
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Well **** eh, you think that they'd still take it if the bootloader was relocked?

Probally not. I had mine relocked and had to make a big fuss in the store to get a free repair. They were gonna charge me €300 while the phone itself was €289 at that time. (And I only had the yellow spot screen problem....)
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lars1216 said:
Probally not. I had mine relocked and had to make a big fuss in the store to get a free repair. They were gonna charge me €300 while the phone itself was €289 at that time. (And I only had the yellow spot screen problem....)
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Ew, that's retarded man. I'm kinda dreading having this phone, the first one I got had it's antenna broken out of the box, that was gay. And this one, I can't change the rom or else it freaks out and has no ram.
Pissing me off so much man.

I know how you feel kinda wish I had just coped with the yellow spots, its less annoying than being stuck on sense...
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/bump, anyone know a fix?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33523220
Please read that scruffy. Android doesn't manage apps like windows does. Free ram is useless ram when it comes to android.
Hope that helps, also which governor for CPU you use? Could be a cause of the slowdowns also.
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whoshotjr2006 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33523220
Please read that scruffy. Android doesn't manage apps like windows does. Free ram is useless ram when it comes to android.
Hope that helps, also which governor for CPU you use? Could be a cause of the slowdowns also.
Sent from my One V using xda app-developers app
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hi there.. sorry but this ain't a battery problem, its the phone slowing down.. i'm facing the same problem.. im on cm9 and phone lags so often.. i checked the ram and less than 20mb free while i did'nt use any app.. it shows only usual process (settings, launcher, google service, swiftkey, facebook, poweramp)
i have used cm9 for months without problems.. i tried some sense roms lately and revert back to cm9 and now i'm having these problems

Alborotz said:
hi there.. sorry but this ain't a battery problem, its the phone slowing down.. i'm facing the same problem.. im on cm9 and phone lags so often.. i checked the ram and less than 20mb free while i did'nt use any app.. it shows only usual process (settings, launcher, google service, swiftkey, facebook, poweramp)
i have used cm9 for months without problems.. i tried some sense roms lately and revert back to cm9 and now i'm having these problems
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hey
i didnt say it was a battery problem. the governor you use can greatly affect the speed of your phone. i usually use smartassv2, because it adjusts the cpu speeds to your usage.
ill say it again, free ram in android is wasted ram. processes get cached, held in the background in ram until they are needed again. because it says you have 20mb free of ram, thats 20 mb thats not being used, which means its useless ram. android task killer (built in by the way) automatically caches or closes old processes that arent in use anymore to make way for the stuff you do use.
dont shoot the messenger, im just explaining how it works. also i have noticed through testing supersick kernels with jb, that some make the phone lag more than others. if you are on cm9, i would advise you to upgrade to cm10, where kernel work is actively being done. ics kernels are not being developed anymore. simon is working on caf kernels and implementing ion, (dont ask me what we use right now, look through his kernel thread for his explanation) which he said what we use right now is not ideal for memory management. there are no guaruntees that what he implements will be pulled back into ics kernels.
cm10 (im on cdma btw) with supersick kernel 12-30 has been rock solid for me. no lag, no slowdowns, and great battery life.
sorry for the wall of text, hope that helps though

Well 20-30 mb free wouldn't be a problem because like you said android does manage things different than windows. But the OP and I have 0 bytes free ram right after boot, so we can't open any app at all, they all crash instantly. So that's our problem, not too little ram, since that's good on android, we have no free ram at all.
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did you relock your bootloader and ruu back to stock? sounds like something went haywire in the unlocking/rooting/romming process. also did you flash multiple roms to see if its just the rom you are on? try cm, aokp, pa, sense, etc. eliminate all loose ends.
if you relock, ruu, and unlock/root/rom again with multiple roms/kernels, and the problem still isnt solved, id say you should contact htc. your mainboard may be going bad.
once again, dont shoot the messenger. im just trying to be helpful. gotta eliminate all possible causes before calling it a hardware defect.

Did do all those things indeed. They may have set me up with a faulty mainboard than (I send it to HTC for repair of the mainboard and after that this problem started) f you HTC.
By the way like we said, the problem isn't there on any sense based rom. Only cm/aosp based Roms. So it may not be the mainboard than I think right? If it was it would be on sense roms too I think.
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are you cdma or gsm? and yeah, htc may have just got your phone, looked at it, laughed, and sent it back. i have heard many horror stories about companies not even working on stuff being sent in before sending it back out, or sending rejected stuff back out as warranty repairs.
strange that it only happens on aosp based stuff, do you use the task killer in sense? it goes against what i just said to say this, but heck, maybe try a task killer for android. or v6 supercharge your aosp based rom. something has to solve the problem.

I'm gsm. And they did fix my phone for sure since it wouldn't boot at all before the repair so I don't think they just send it back. Did supercharge the aosp rom, didn't help. And I don't use a task killer on sense so that can't be it.
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I'm in the same boat. Stock runs fine but all aftermarket roms lag insanely. I've found SIO and NOOP schedulers to be the fastest and even put the CPU on performance and ran the clock up to the max, still lags to the point of being useless. I tried a few roms a few months ago so I forgot which ones but I just tried this ROM again yesterday: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878994 and even w/o installing really any apps, after a half-day I tried to use the browser and got ridiculous lag. I just gave up on AOSP roms on this phone, least there's a plus, you get the burst camera w/ stock

Bumpity bump.
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And up we go. No one has any other ideas?
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Phone goes unresponsive sometimes with 4.0 AOSP ROMs?

Hello!
I have noticed a weird bug with my phone - phone will go unresponsive after day or so of work. Sometimes the screen will lit, but the phone will be VERY slow, to the state of being unusable. Sometimes the display will not even turno on when I press the power button. Anyway, I have to remove the battery to restart it.
Last time I saw such behaviour, it was my Kindle3, and it was weird power drain issue.
Has anyone had this issue before? I searched the ROM threads and nothing. The phone was bought and used in Europe (BG).This phone is more than 2 years old , hardware problem is a possibility, too
Please report if you know something. Advice me how to log these issues, too?

In general the phone becomes like that when free RAM goes below 80 MB. I've seen this on many AOSP ROMs like you said. I don't remember if it happens on Sense ROMs too, but Sense is quite slow anyway. I usually fix it by clearing out all apps in the Recent apps list.
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Any automated solution to it, then?
I mean, something like close all running user apps, clear cash and RAM and so on. I know that task killers claim to do it, but they are more trouble than help!
Can anyone suggest something tired and working? I cant upgrade to 4.1 cos I need BT

Not that I know of. You can try enabling 'Don't keep activities' in Settings>Developer options. That will leave your RAM free, but it'll take longer for each app to open because it clears it from RAM each time you exit the app. So it'll affect multitasking too. Alternatively, you can try to reduce the number of background processes in the corresponding option. In my opinion none of these solutions are worth it. Just swipe away all the recent apps whenever your phone slows down.
You can use the codefireX 4.1.2 periodicals if you want a fully working 4.1 JB ROM. Development has stopped for it because the dev synergye is now developing 4.2.1, but the last SR5 version is very stable, and everything works including Bluetooth. You can even enable a 'kill all' button in the recent apps panel to clear all the apps at once.
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sashank said:
Not that I know of. You can try enabling 'Don't keep activities' in Settings>Developer options. That will leave your RAM free, but it'll take longer for each app to open because it clears it from RAM each time you exit the app. So it'll affect multitasking too. Alternatively, you can try to reduce the number of background processes in the corresponding option. In my opinion none of these solutions are worth it. Just swipe away all the recent apps whenever your phone slows down.
You can use the codefireX 4.1.2 periodicals if you want a fully working 4.1 JB ROM. Development has stopped for it because the dev synergye is now developing 4.2.1, but the last SR5 version is very stable, and everything works including Bluetooth. You can even enable a 'kill all' button in the recent apps panel to clear all the apps at once.
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4.1.2 has an issue with the speaker phone. I usually have to drive around the city and have to talk during that time, so I rely on BT and speakerphone. I will limit the number of processes and give it a try. If everything else fails, I can go back to CNM7(UGLY!! but STABLE!!!), and wait for BT to be fixed.
It seems that the phone will fall back to default option for number of activities kept every time I reboot it, any way to fix that?

Oh yeah it had that issue. You can also try ViperDHD ROM if you're okay with HTC Sense or go back to CM7 like you said.
Another ROM option is aospX from the HTC Inspire 4G forum. It's a great AOSP ICS ROM and BT has no issues on it as far as I know.
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Oh yeah it had that issue. You can also try ViperDHD ROM if you're okay with HTC Sense or go back to CM7 like you said.
Another ROM option is aospX from the HTC Inspire 4G forum. It's a great AOSP ICS ROM and BT has no issues on it as far as I know.
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AOSP 4.0 is not an option, phone going on strike. I love the aospx ROM, but it is kind of annoying to have to restart when you need to call a client or something in a huury
I will try and go de-sense with Viper, probably, not many options left. I am not happy at all with Sense, dont know why I bought OneX anyway. To be honest, if I see press release about Nexus4 32GB I will sell it and keep DHD as a backup. I still have to use two phones for two months, and will sill what will happen. Till then, I will have to bit the bullet and live with either sense or CNM 7
Thank you for the support!!! Have a happy new
PS trying to limit the number of processes does not work

Happy new year to you too.
I've never used the limit number of background processes option before, so no clue about that.
I see in your signature you're waiting for official CyanogenMod (CM is the acronym ) for your One X. It's already there - http://get.cm/?device=endeavoru
Right now there are only nightlies though, but you can still use them as they're quite stable. A milestone release and a stable version should be out soon also. One X is a great phone and works brilliantly with AOSP, except the camera. The Sense camera image quality may be better (don't know till you try, I haven't experimented with it too much). Also, if you do flash CM/any AOSP ROM for your One X, use it with the NCX kernel. I've heard it gives the best battery life.

sashank said:
Happy new year to you too.
I've never used the limit number of background processes option before, so no clue about that.
I see in your signature you're waiting for official CyanogenMod (CM is the acronym ) for your One X. It's already there - http://get.cm/?device=endeavoru
Right now there are only nightlies though, but you can still use them as they're quite stable. A milestone release and a stable version should be out soon also. One X is a great phone and works brilliantly with AOSP, except the camera. The Sense camera image quality may be better (don't know till you try, I haven't experimented with it too much). Also, if you do flash CM/any AOSP ROM for your One X, use it with the NCX kernel. I've heard it gives the best battery life.
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I will wait till something is marked stable at at least MR I have a phone to trouble my sleep with, and this is the DHD. I need one to be solid as rock. I already have 4.1 on One X, so everything I need to run on it runs, but I have a lot of unneeded HTC stuff under the cover running.
It's a pity that nexus is not around here, and the expected prise is going to be round 550 euro! It is not just overpriced, this is a [email protected]#ing robbery!