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Will phone manufacturers even listen and get it right ?

Hi
this is basically going to be a rant and rave but hopefully a constuctive one
For years i have had smartphones, mainly WM but have strayed to Symbian once and now Android with the Desire
I remember upgrading from the TYTN to the TYTNII and HTC not supplying the drivers we had no proper divx playback and this continued onto the Touch HD which is pretty much why i dediced to go to Android.
Now i have the Desire which i must admit is a very good phone but the storage spce is laughable even with Froyo update which helps a bit it's pathetic
Now i cant wholly blame HTC for this as it's the Android OS that is causing the issue but having more Internal Memory would help.
Strange that the reason for Android not having all data on the sd was to help with piracy and i must admit i have been very conciencous through the years and always bought what i used but now googles policy is forcing me the other way, why pay for apps that i have to uninstall so i can install something else.
Windows Mobile has allowed SD card installs since my first 2003 device, Android has taken a massive step back in my opinion. So much for the 1000's of apps on the android market, it does not say you can only browse them but dont install many as your phone will grind to a halt.
so not so long ago i thought i would get rid of the desire and try another android device only with more internal mem.
i looked at the X10 , looks a good phone but it's still on 1.6 and the promised updates are still just promises.
the Galaxy s looks excellent and has loads of space but it looking around it seems to have quite a few issues with lagging and the GPS issues.
So i thought about looking at the Desire HD but i have problems with the Battery life on the Desire and as the HD battery is smaller there is no way i could live with it.
It seems as if the Maunfacturers are just happy to churn these things out without too much thought , maybe it's cause they always want us to upgrade but just think if one actually made a phone that does what is is supposed to do and do them well they may end up with making a killing.
Rant mode over apart from now that i dont use sense i still cant find a 4x4 rss widget

machmandp said:
Hi
this is basically going to be a rant and rave but hopefully a constuctive one
For years i have had smartphones, mainly WM but have strayed to Symbian once and now Android with the Desire
I remember upgrading from the TYTN to the TYTNII and HTC not supplying the drivers we had no proper divx playback and this continued onto the Touch HD which is pretty much why i dediced to go to Android.
Now i have the Desire which i must admit is a very good phone but the storage spce is laughable even with Froyo update which helps a bit it's pathetic
Now i cant wholly blame HTC for this as it's the Android OS that is causing the issue but having more Internal Memory would help.
Strange that the reason for Android not having all data on the sd was to help with piracy and i must admit i have been very conciencous through the years and always bought what i used but now googles policy is forcing me the other way, why pay for apps that i have to uninstall so i can install something else.
Windows Mobile has allowed SD card installs since my first 2003 device, Android has taken a massive step back in my opinion. So much for the 1000's of apps on the android market, it does not say you can only browse them but dont install many as your phone will grind to a halt.
so not so long ago i thought i would get rid of the desire and try another android device only with more internal mem.
i looked at the X10 , looks a good phone but it's still on 1.6 and the promised updates are still just promises.
the Galaxy s looks excellent and has loads of space but it looking around it seems to have quite a few issues with lagging and the GPS issues.
So i thought about looking at the Desire HD but i have problems with the Battery life on the Desire and as the HD battery is smaller there is no way i could live with it.
It seems as if the Maunfacturers are just happy to churn these things out without too much thought , maybe it's cause they always want us to upgrade but just think if one actually made a phone that does what is is supposed to do and do them well they may end up with making a killing.
Rant mode over apart from now that i dont use sense i still cant find a 4x4 rss widget
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FYI, the battery is smaller on the desire HD because the 2nd generation snapdragon it has, has much improved battery performance so its not needed

sigh...here we go again...root your device, root your device
you are willing to go as far as buying a new handset?? but your not willing to root?
root your device, install A2SD+ and SD speed fix and you will never look back, it runs flawless
if you cant be bothered learning how, ask someone to do it for you
Tech magazines are choosing the HTC desire as phone as the year as one of the most balanced android phones available
issues like app storage, music/video stutter (due to slow SD read) and even gaming performance can be fixed or improved by rooting your device

hamdir said:
sigh...here we go again...root your device, root your device
you are willing to go as far as buying a new handset?? but your not willing to root?
root your device, install A2SD+ and SD speed fix and you will never look back, it runs flawless
if you cant be bothered learning how, ask someone to do it for you
Tech magazines are choosing the HTC desire as phone as the year as one of the most balanced android phones available
issues like app storage, music/video stutter (due to slow SD read) and even gaming performance can be fixed or improved by rooting your device
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The point is you shouldn't HAVE to root your Desire. Look at the Desire HD - 1.5GB of internal space. HTC realised they made a mistake and have now corrected this.
Just cause A2SD is available if you root some people don't WANT to root as it's shouldn't have been needed. For some warranty is actually important

hi again
I dont want to start arguments but as EddyOS wrote why should we have to root ?
to get the desire running well you have to invalidate the warranty does not sound too good.
anyhow i am rooted and use the Move2SDEnabler to move as many apps as possible but kept the stock rom as no orange rom is available as yet in case of warranty issues.
but some cannot be moved and i have 22mb free
a brief list of some of the app sizes i have
Google Maps 8.81mb
Swype 6.03mb
paypal 4.79mb
Ndrive 4.39mb
Gmail 4.1mb
Folder Org 3.88mb
launcher Pro 3.73mb
titanium Backup 2.88mb
Moblox 2.88
beautiful widgets 2.11mb
angry birds 1.92mb
just with these thats 45mb i obviously have more apps installed but as each one takes up anywhere from a few k to 2 mb then how are we expected to be able to install a good amount apps
can i do without any of the above maybe but the point is why should i have to - i purchased them and dont forget the main advertising points about Android are the Market and Customising the Launcher with Widgets.
And as regards to the desire having been chosen as the best phone i wonder how many of the reviewers actually use the phone daily or is it based on a few days usage.
I was under the impression that how i use Froyo Apps2SD was pretty much the same as Apps2SD+ but if you now different then please point me in the right direction
Thanks

A2SD in FroYo only moves the app itself and not the data accociated with it. This only works on apps that have been enabled by the developer to be moved. A2SD+ differs by actually using the EXT3 partition on the SD card as internal memory so all the app data is stored on the SD card (bar some data which has to remain on the device).
HTC have since addressed things with their new handsets by giving them a LOT more internal memory so this should be a thing of the past BUT it doesn't help Desire owners who, like you, can't root as there isn't a stock RUU to revert to for warranty issues (which is a whole different matter and why I only get generic handsets). The only way to incrase memory is to root

machmandp said:
i am rooted and use the Move2SDEnabler to move as many apps as possible but kept the stock rom as no orange rom is available as yet in case of warranty issues.
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You already have a 'void' warranty because you have root, you may aswell go the whole 9 yards and flash a custom rom. just make a nandroid backup of your current rom so you can go back to it if the worst happens.
Having a void warranty never stopped orange from swapping my phone.
I do agree that you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work, but that's just the way it is

EddyOS said:
A2SD in FroYo only moves the app itself and not the data accociated with it. This only works on apps that have been enabled by the developer to be moved. A2SD+ differs by actually using the EXT3 partition on the SD card as internal memory so all the app data is stored on the SD card (bar some data which has to remain on the device).
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Not entirely correct!
If you ModInstallLocation (which does not require root) you can force most apps to move to SD with FROYO A2SD - as far as I'm aware the exceptions to this have explicity disallowed this.
The main difference between FROYO A2SD and A2SD+ is that A2SD+ relocates the Dalvik cache to SD. Both methods leave /data/data on the device which in the case of some apps (e.g. Google Earth) can be quite substantial.
Personally I use FROYO A2SD, but I've repartitioned to reclaim space from /system and I use Fusecompress to compression the Dalvik cache.
To the OP, you can argue that this is an Android OS issue, but in my opinion this was always an issue with poorly specified hardware rather than the Oscar itself.
My Galaxy Tab has 2GB set aside for applications and the Desire Z/HD have 1.5GB, which rather renders any form of A2SD obsolete.
Regards,
Dave

Well,if you manage to break your phone somehow make sure you break it badly enough for rendering them unable to detect if you have it rooted!

mercianary said:
You already have a 'void' warranty because you have root, you may aswell go the whole 9 yards and flash a custom rom. just make a nandroid backup of your current rom so you can go back to it if the worst happens.
Having a void warranty never stopped orange from swapping my phone.
I do agree that you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work, but that's just the way it is
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But you can remove the root right?
Because my Desire started up with the "rebootloop by itself" issue a month ago while I had LeeDroid 2.2x running, and so I removed root by installing a RUU and then sent it away for service like yesterday.
And then they can't void the warranty then right? RIGHT??? :S

Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that

EddyOS said:
Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Oh, didn't think about that at all.
Hmm, well then he does have some valid complaints. My biggest problem with the unrooted Desire is the internal memory, and I certainly didn't have any idea how small it was prior to purchase and just took for granted that you could store apps on the SD.

EddyOS said:
Yes but the point is that Orange (the OPs operator) don't have an RUU so you can't do that
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Yep that's a big problem for me
As i said i have root but i thought (right or wrong) that if i ever have a problem there is more chance of the service centre not spotting anything if i still have the stock orange rom.
Also when i looked into flashing roms i'm sure that there was an issue with the Orange radio that caused massive problems and that really put me off from doing that.
I must admit i now have 19mb free and have had to delete some apps today after installing the flash update (Another 10mb) and it seems that updates are slowly eating all of the memory and surely HTC must have known this was going to be a problem.
Still i'll now try to look into maybe flashing a rom with APPS2SD+ and see if it's ok to do. i'll also hope for an Orange RUU to be leaked soon
Thanks all

This is what I'd do...
Remove all apps from the phone (uninstall them). And then reboot into recovery. Do a backup so you can revert back to it should you need to send it in (they may not realise you're rooted) but then you can go to a custom ROM using A2SD+ and see how you get on

EddyOS said:
This is what I'd do...
Remove all apps from the phone (uninstall them). And then reboot into recovery. Do a backup so you can revert back to it should you need to send it in (they may not realise you're rooted) but then you can go to a custom ROM using A2SD+ and see how you get on
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thanks
sounds like my only choice to avoid the low space
just need to double check the Orange radio thing first
Thanks all

The newer radios should work OK, if not you can use the radio you're on at present assuming you're on Android 2.2 at the moment (albeit the Orange version) - flashing a custom won't touch the radio unless it's included in the ROM file

The radio hasn't been a problem for a while. The newer radios wont lock your device.
My first orange desire was locked by a radio update. I had to fix it with an unlock code.
My second orange desire (warranty replacement) was not locked when I flashed the most recent radio.

Excellent thanks
One more quick question if I may
In your experience would I be better getting a fast mem card as I only have class 2 at the moment
Sent from my HTC Desire

I use a class 2 16GB card and have no issues

hi
well i finally got round to flashing a new rom
went for the leedroid in the end with A2SD+
I had a few issues but read up and worked around them although i read about a gold card but never created one so i hope i'm not setting myself up for a fall without it.
anyhow i'm glad i did it with loads of apps installed i still have 85mb free and nowhere near filled up my 1gb ext3 partition
thanks for the advice all

[Q] What is the best technology (App2SD+, Data2SD, Data2Extv1,v2,v3 & v4 ?

Hello..
I need to know. what is the best technology in accordance with best performance (no lags), best memory (RAM) free, best sd card access speed, from
App2SD+
Data2SD
Data2Ext version 1
Data2Ext version 2
Data2Ext version 3
Data2Ext version 4
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At the moment I think it's A2SD+, but in a few time, when developers modify and make a better DATA2EXT, I think it will be the best of all.

I agree with Neo. Data2ext isnt finished yet... need some more work For now i use A2SD+.

Agreed. I still use A2SD+.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

what i'm experience using data2ext. first boot takes too long. all performance seems many lags. when i'm restoring all of my sms & contact from mybackup app, it's very very slow..and it eats much RAM, until it hangs..i think data2ext version 1-4 is not suitable to be installed on our device for the moment. using app2sd+, app cannot 100% moved to sd card. installing hundreds of app can make internal memory full..

Im using DATA2SD and no problem
I recomend u to not use that chinese craps like data2ext

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dur09 said:
Im using DATA2SD and no problem
I recomend u to not use that chinese craps like data2ext
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WOW. i have a question for you. can you make something better than that "crap"?

scottfu001 said:
WOW. i have a question for you. can you make something better than that "crap"?
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Seriously man!! don't insult the developers who have placed some new concept in front of us!! You should be greatful that these developers and rom cookers are spending their precious time so that people can enjoy free good quality stuff

Scottfu001 said:
WOW. i have a question for you. can you make something better than that "crap"?
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lordvoldemort said:
Seriously man!! don't insult the developers who have placed some new concept in front of us!! You should be greatful that these developers and rom cookers are spending their precious time so that people can enjoy free good quality stuff
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I Think that was his Point, aimed at Dur09.....

Can anyone explain me differences between data2sd and data2ext? Both are symlinking whole /data partition to sd?

And could someone explain d2we?

I am also interested on the differences between data2ext, data2sd and data2we.
Noone knows?

i tried appsd+, data2w and data2ext...and i'm quietly sure that data2ext gets best performance scores between all, and it works great. i'm not a developer and honesly i don't understand technical details so much, i'm just a flasher but you can try data2ext.
by the way, i don't know how it was before

As far as I understand it, a2sd is Froyo's way of migrating apps to SD card, but then that feature is dependent on whether an app is coded to be movable. a2sd+ moves more apps to the SD card than a2sd, but still leaves plenty of "immovable" apps in the phone. Data2SD would be the one that moves just about everything to the SD card's EXT partition, while the rest of the data would be put in the FAT32 partition.

Energy ROM Dated 01/12/2012 not enough RAM

I attempted to return to this ROM and did the full wipe three times and then APPs started to download and got 2/3 done when I started to get low memory message. I attempted to run Ap2SD to move Davlick and got not enough memory error. It shows that I have 48MB of free memory but I have my SD card partitioned to 2GB. Any Idea?

Some roms just take up more memory than others. Less storage is sacrificed for a better rom.

sitlet said:
Some roms just take up more memory than others. Less storage is sacrificed for a better rom.
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Not actually true. AOSP are "better roms" but take up far less space.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.

KommodoreHeinz said:
Not actually true. AOSP are "better roms" but take up far less space.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.
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"better roms" is a relative term. I MUCH prefer a sense rom to an aosp one.

sitlet said:
"better roms" is a relative term. I MUCH prefer a sense rom to an aosp one.
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I know that's why I used the quotation marks. I prefer AOSP over sense any day.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.

lol i hate them bothhhh jk
i just switched to energy again with about 50 apps loaded like flash and a few games everything i need and i still got about 100mb left. i tweaked it in the kitchen for my own liking such as adding stuff like google voice and took out like car home and stuff i dont really use. anyways my suggestions would be to get that dalvik over to your sd card partition or look into how many apps u are just installing to have. i mean i still do it. I download adobe reader even though i dont need it but i dont wanna have to download it when i do.

Hey,
When you run into that partition your SD card and it will help you out man, some of those roms are monsters its just something you need to look at the pros and cons and see if its worth it! good luck

I don't get it, if you flashed to this ROM before, what could be wrong? So far it's the only ROM I've flashed, without a partitioned SD card either, and I still have plenty of space, even after installing a bunch of apps on the phone storage.

[Q] Most stable and fluid ROM?

My HTC Desire is currently unrooted (I had it rooted once, but it started crashing all the time and the battery drainage was awfull..) but especially the limited capability of installing apps is getting on my nerves.
Since I ain't felling like trying around for weeks, I'd like to hear your opinion on which rom ist the most stable and fluid one.
So, my question is now, which rom is right now the most stable and fast?
From the looks I really liked the MIUI ROM I tried, but I also liked the cyanogen mod one.
Additionally: Is it usefull to change the kernel? If yes, which one and how am I supposed to do it?
-Nascor

Any ROM that is small, and fits into the internal memory.
Obviously if the ROM needs an ext partition it will be much slower.
So basically any AOSP ROM will satisfy you. (CM7, Oxygen, MIUI, dGB etc.)

k3lcior said:
Any ROM that is small, and fits into the internal memory.
Obviously if the ROM needs an ext partition it will be much slower.
So basically any AOSP ROM will satisfy you. (CM7, Oxygen, MIUI, dGB etc.)
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what do you mean by that, just ROMs which need an ext partition for "themselves" or also ones, which use it for apps?
Also, CM7 and MIUI started crashing pretty occasionally and often after a time...

Nascor said:
what do you mean by that, just ROMs which need an ext partition for "themselves" or also ones, which use it for apps?
Also, CM7 and MIUI started crashing pretty occasionally and often after a time...
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#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?

Check out Mokee OS!
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680577

k3lcior said:
#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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well, but that's the main reason for flashing, on the stock ROM I'm just able to have really few apps installed until the internal memory is full.
The crashes where most times completly random. Sometimes it just rebooted in my pocked, another time it froze on the lockscreen, and then it froze while using it. And after some time I got stock in a bootloop (on both ROMs)
piotras1230 said:
Check out Mokee OS!
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680577
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I like the overall look, does it run smooth and stable?

k3lcior said:
#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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Using sd-ext doesn't mean that you'll get slower rom, as long as you have sd card with higher speed (class 6 or 10). You can try CM 7.2.0.1 from Proz0r's thread (with int2sd support) no difference with stock version trust me.

nlooooo said:
Using sd-ext doesn't mean that you'll get slower rom, as long as you have sd card with higher speed (class 6 or 10). You can try CM 7.2.0.1 from Proz0r's thread (with int2sd support) no difference with stock version trust me.
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Keep fooling yourself, tested all a2sd scripts with Class 4, 6 and 10 SD Cards.

k3lcior said:
Keep fooling yourself, tested all a2sd scripts with Class 4, 6 and 10 SD Cards.
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And what's the proof that you're right?
I've been using some scripts for a long time and I can tell you that if you're using right scripts on right way everything is perfect.
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders

nlooooo said:
And what's the proof that you're right?
I've been using some scripts for a long time and I can tell you that if you're using right scripts on right way everything is perfect.
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders
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Yeah, then make a video when you're opening large application.
First with the app on internal memory, and then with the app+dalvik+data on SD and lets see.

k3lcior said:
Yeah, then make a video when you're opening large application.
First with the app on internal memory, and then with the app+dalvik+data on SD and lets see.
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Have you ever tried a2sdx script by Amarulz and int2sd method by Proz0r?
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders

So I should probably add: Which A2SD script or whatever should I use? The internal memory for apps is much too less...
Beside that, here are a few ROMs I looked into, what do you think, which one will fit my needs best (fast&stable)?
SUPERNOVA XTREME OFFICIAL
MARANGE MIUI
MOKEE OS
Oxygen ZM
Nikez Lente

Supernova if you want Sense, Oxygen if you prefer AOSP.

k3lcior said:
Supernova if you want Sense, Oxygen if you prefer AOSP.
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isn't oxygen a bit outdated now.

ryanraven said:
isn't oxygen a bit outdated now.
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Go with OxyZM1.2 or MildWild v4.3, both Oxygen based and very smooth n stable
Sent from my HTC Desire

got OxyZM1.2 right now, I like it so far...just 2 quick questions:
How can I move whole apps to the ext4 partition on my SD card? I'm running pretty low on memory again...just like 30MB left...
I can also backup the login data of the stock email programm, so I don't have to reenter everything every time I install a new ROM, can't I?
by the way, what's the difference from OxyZM to MildWild?
Thanks for the answers till yet!

Hi,
My experience so far is very limited but:
CM7 is bullet proof, but my experience with using the app S2E to expand internal storage was variable.
One the one hand, you can just install anything you like and not worry about space (within reason)
Downside is after a few months use it was laggy as hell. It was taking 5 seconds to open up swiftkey.
Now, I've since tried the following:
BCM, a version of CM9/ICS for Desire. It's ludicrously fast and comes with a very nice built in script for using the sd card second partition as internal space.
It's still laggy, BUT I've now learnt how to align partitions correctly and that my SD card is badly aligned.
I've got the 4EXT recovery so once I've backed it all up I can re-partition the card correctly and see how much that improves things.
BCM's a2sd script (called Mounts2SD) also allows you to disable writing file times, good speed up from that too, I use it on my desktop PC's SSD.
So far though, BCM is chomping my poor battery, even when idle.
BCM benches about 50% faster than CM7 on AnTuTu (3000 vs 2000)
It's noticeably smoother for UI interactions, my one 3D game (Monopoly) it also noticeably smoother (higher frame rate)
So, I've got to now fix the battery drain and repartition the card and then my good old Desire is all good.
There's also something called Supercharger V6 which bodes well, unless all it's tweaks are already in CM7/9/BCM.
J.

not alot between the 2 really. download attached file and put on ur sdcard, boot into recovery and flash it (install from sdcard) this will give ya more space

RoboJ1M said:
Hi,
My experience so far is very limited but:
CM7 is bullet proof, but my experience with using the app S2E to expand internal storage was variable.
One the one hand, you can just install anything you like and not worry about space (within reason)
Downside is after a few months use it was laggy as hell. It was taking 5 seconds to open up swiftkey.
Now, I've since tried the following:
BCM, a version of CM9/ICS for Desire. It's ludicrously fast and comes with a very nice built in script for using the sd card second partition as internal space.
It's still laggy, BUT I've now learnt how to align partitions correctly and that my SD card is badly aligned.
I've got the 4EXT recovery so once I've backed it all up I can re-partition the card correctly and see how much that improves things.
BCM's a2sd script (called Mounts2SD) also allows you to disable writing file times, good speed up from that too, I use it on my desktop PC's SSD.
So far though, BCM is chomping my poor battery, even when idle.
BCM benches about 50% faster than CM7 on AnTuTu (3000 vs 2000)
It's noticeably smoother for UI interactions, my one 3D game (Monopoly) it also noticeably smoother (higher frame rate)
So, I've got to now fix the battery drain and repartition the card and then my good old Desire is all good.
There's also something called Supercharger V6 which bodes well, unless all it's tweaks are already in CM7/9/BCM.
J.
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hes looking for most stable rom lol also antutu scores are pointless and mean jack s*** imho

Benchmark scores mean nothing, just a bunch of useless information that are not right. Usually all roms that I used and had big scores on benchmark apps were running much slower then the ones with lower scores. As you all can see and try roms with swap support get much higher scores but doesn't run nor smoother nor better.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

[Q] Cyanogen 7.x stable enough for non-tech user?

Considering installing CM on my wife's Desire because of the not enough space limitation for new apps etc. Will CM work for a non-tech user (my wife is NOT very keen on new tech) in an everyday use situation? Will this solve the "out-of-space-problem"?

well am very new at this & i was told to try WildMild v5 on my phone its just as good if not lots better that the maufactured one that came with the phone i hope this helps

pandashoe said:
well am very new at this & i was told to try WildMild v5 on my phone its just as good if not lots better that the maufactured one that came with the phone i hope this helps
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Thanks. This ROM solves the out of space issue?

yes i just put all the apps on my sd card, it also got rid of all them hard to remove apps put on at manufacture it this helps dont forget to press the thanks button lol

borchgrevink said:
Thanks. This ROM solves the out of space issue?
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Flash cm7r2 hboot for anything CM7 based, it will yield about twice more internal memory for apps.
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borchgrevink said:
Considering installing CM on my wife's Desire because of the not enough space limitation for new apps etc. Will CM work for a non-tech user (my wife is NOT very keen on new tech) in an everyday use situation? Will this solve the "out-of-space-problem"?
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If it's non tech user then I would suggest you take a look at Oxygen rom. Less menus to navigate, less mistakes. CM7 can get most non tech lost with all the options available. It can even be overwhelming for casual users in my opinion. :highfive:

I solved out of space issues by partitioning my SD card and installing S2e. On my old Desire running CM7 my free space went from 12Mb to 74Mb!

lol i got 1.1gb internal memory left :what:
fairly easy with cyanogenmod7 and has no effect on speed. from what iv noticed anyway. but like stankyou says cyanogenmod7 has a few settings in the cyanogenmod settings that if u didnt what they did, it could make it unstable, crash etc. like performance, CPU min - max etc
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jmcclue said:
lol i got 1.1gb internal memory left :what:
fairly easy with cyanogenmod7 and has no effect on speed. from what iv noticed anyway. but like stankyou says cyanogenmod7 has a few settings in the cyanogenmod settings that if u didnt what they did, it could make it unstable, crash etc. like performance, CPU min - max etc
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She would never mess with the settings, so I would just like to install the most stable ROM with memory issue sorted out. So, what to choose?

Oxygen with Oxygenr2 hboot
OR
An-droid with Oxygenr2 hboot if she prefers sense UI.
OR
Nikez JB p11 of course. It is going to be recommended anyway so I could be first too.
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j/k on the last

erklat said:
OR
Nikez JB p11 of course. It is going to be recommended anyway so I could be first too.
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i think il sig just this part
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