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Samsung Says a HDMI Out Cable Exists

According to Samsung there is a MicroUSB to HDMI cable for HDMI output!
ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=0&AT_ID=307505&PROD_SUB_ID=0&PROD_ID=558&EMAIL_ID
The only problem is that the part number referenced isn't on their site....yet.
Here's hoping that this is real.....

can you give us the part number even if it isn't referenced?

Wow, that's huge... our phones can do both AV and HDMI. Thanks OP!!! Now we need to locate a store that sell MicroUSB to HDMI cable.
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Found it.. OOS on SS website.
http://www.myreplicaphone.com/samsung-ecc1hu0bbebstd-tv-out-cable-micro-usb-to-hdmi.html

This would be perfect if the vibrant would support it. Found the cable via google for $20. Just search for "samsung micro usb to hdmi". Has any one found a tv out option in the settings? I've heard of the analog out but didn't really pay attention to the software side.
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sfsilicon said:
This would be perfect if the vibrant would support it. Found the cable via google for $20. Just search for "samsung micro usb to hdmi". Has any one found a tv out option in the settings? I've heard of the analog out but didn't really pay attention to the software side.
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That one has a different PN#. The one in the FAQ is ECC1TX1BBEBSTD.
http://www.cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hsabbebstd.html

tengtengvn said:
That one has a different PN#. The one in the FAQ is ECC1TX1BBEBSTD.
http://www.cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hsabbebstd.html
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How likely is it that this would work with a Vibrant? If it is I'll definitely be picking one up!

tv out
The RCA video out from the headset jack definitely works.
I have done it on my vibrant. Sims will not work and Avatar will not work. A screen saying that it is not compatible or something come sup... but the entire screen of the phone and everything else will work... no idea about the hdmi though...

Does anyone wonder/know if Dolby Digital 5.1 can be output with 720p video on this thing? Something tells me that might be too much to ask, but if that's possible on this phone that would totally kick ass.

tengtengvn said:
That one has a different PN#. The one in the FAQ is ECC1TX1BBEBSTD.
http://www.cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hsabbebstd.html
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The HDMI cable in the FAQ is ECC1HU0BBEBSTD, PN in quote listed above is for the Composite cable. Linked page is for a possibly non compatible cable.

tengtengvn said:
That one has a different PN#. The one in the FAQ is ECC1TX1BBEBSTD.
http://www.cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hsabbebstd.html
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that cable wont work on the Vibrant cuz it's for the proprietary Samsung Data/Charge port to HDMI. the phone it references is the Instinct, which doesnt have a microUSB port... it uses the original Samsung charge/data port.
we need MicroUSB to HDMI.

ya someones gotta buy an off brand before the "official" cable comes out and see if it works.. not only that but see if it displays everything just like the rca cables but in hi=def.

I'm wondering how this would work? Micro-B USB port has 5 pins + the shield. HDMI is 19 pins and 6 (3 pairs) are for the audio and video data, but due to the TMDS signaling you also need a pair of pins for clock (so 8 total).
I'm also guessing that some special mode would need to be implemented so that the Galaxy devices will know to output the video signal to the USB port vs using it as a charge or data port.
I'm also wondering if this is really a micro USB cable to HDMI or one of the Type D to HDMI cables? That would make sense otherwise Samsung would be getting in the business of creating custom cables. On the flip side the Type D connector still has 19 pins.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37396

someone could just go into a radio shack and check a micro hdmi to hdmi and see if it works. I am sure they will let you try it. I am at work now but if someone would try that would be awesome.

tengtengvn said:
Found it.. OOS on SS website.
http://www.myreplicaphone.com/samsung-ecc1hu0bbebstd-tv-out-cable-micro-usb-to-hdmi.html
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I just cant see putting video over a serial bus, I would need some sort of conversion. Either way, 5 pins is no where enough to do the video and even just mono stereo. IF the cell phone can convert the video and audio into just pure data and the send it down a USB cable then there would HAVE to be a box somewhere between the phone and the TV to convert it back to video and audio. A TV is not going to know what to do with the data from a USB port. This seems to be a miss print on Samsung's web page. Plus, if you click on compatible devices it shows 2 spinpoint hard drives, no phones.

Gr8gorilla said:
someone could just go into a radio shack and check a micro hdmi to hdmi and see if it works. I am sure they will let you try it. I am at work now but if someone would try that would be awesome.
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They are NOT the same size.

setzer715 said:
I just cant see putting video over a serial bus, I would need some sort of conversion. Either way, 5 pins is no where enough to do the video and even just mono stereo. IF the cell phone can convert the video and audio into just pure data and the send it down a USB cable then there would HAVE to be a box somewhere between the phone and the TV to convert it back to video and audio. A TV is not going to know what to do with the data from a USB port. This seems to be a miss print on Samsung's web page. Plus, if you click on compatible devices it shows 2 spinpoint hard drives, no phones.
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The Samsung cable has an overly-large HDMI plug-end. My guess puts a small blob of conversion circuitry inside there, drawing power either via the USB or by vampiring off of the HDMI. (The HDMI spec has a +5V line, but that's only for Sources, whereas this is a Destination. It may or may not have power, I haven't looked that deep into the tech docs).
Bandwidth isn't an issue - 800x480 can be pumped over USB2.0, which is what we're looking at here.
Plus, the thing apparently exists. So it likely works.

EugeneKay said:
The Samsung cable has an overly-large HDMI plug-end. My guess puts a small blob of conversion circuitry inside there, drawing power either via the USB or by vampiring off of the HDMI. (The HDMI spec has a +5V line, but that's only for Sources, whereas this is a Destination. It may or may not have power, I haven't looked that deep into the tech docs).
Bandwidth isn't an issue - 800x480 can be pumped over USB2.0, which is what we're looking at here.
Plus, the thing apparently exists. So it likely works.
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Assuming this HDMI cable is the real deal, it should be able to output 1080p which would be HUGE news. Although I'm skeptical like everyone else whether or not the microUSB connection can really handle this kind of data.
The cable itself has a larger end because it has a microUSB plug in it to allow the phone to charge while it's connected to the TV. It's pure speculation if there's any advanced circuitry in there to assist with outputting video data.

EugeneKay said:
The Samsung cable has an overly-large HDMI plug-end. My guess puts a small blob of conversion circuitry inside there, drawing power either via the USB or by vampiring off of the HDMI. (The HDMI spec has a +5V line, but that's only for Sources, whereas this is a Destination. It may or may not have power, I haven't looked that deep into the tech docs).
Bandwidth isn't an issue - 800x480 can be pumped over USB2.0, which is what we're looking at here.
Plus, the thing apparently exists. So it likely works.
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I agree about the size of the connector housing and I was thinking the same thing but then retracted that thought because I wasn't sure if it was quite big enough to do that type of conversion.
I see no point in having an HDMI cable if we're limited to 800x480. Why not just stick with the Composite cable in the headphone jack? HDMI would insinuate that you can play your 720P videos over it on a High Def TV.

800x480p digital would look a decent amount better than 480i over composite, so it wouldn't be the worst thing.
I'm wondering about that port on the side of the HDMI end, though - Micro USB power maybe?

Adding USB to the Xoom dock

I just got done modding my dock for USB. I know a number of people have already done this, but I did it slightly differently.
First, since I don't care about reversing this mod, I removed the speaker jack from the pcb. This way, I could use the factory hole for my usb cable.
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Next, I de-soldered the existing USB pins from the pcb, and used a crimper to attach them to my new usb cable. The tabs on the pins (that hold them in place inside the white shell) are the perfect shape for crimping. So the pins become crimped splices. (You generally get a more durable connection with crimping than soldering, so I like this approach.)
And here's the finished product:
Slightly more detail can be found here: Adding USB to a Xoom dock
-Jim

BeagleBoy said:
I just got done modding my dock for USB. I know a number of people have already done this, but I did it slightly differently.
First, since I don't care about reversing this mod, I removed the speaker jack from the pcb. This way, I could use the factory hole for my usb cable.
Next, I de-soldered the existing USB pins from the pcb, and used a crimper to attach them to my new usb cable. The tabs on the pins (that hold them in place inside the white shell) are the perfect shape for crimping. So the pins become crimped splices. (You generally get a more durable connection with crimping than soldering, so I like this approach.)
And here's the finished product:
Slightly more detail can be found here: Adding USB to a Xoom dock
-Jim
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This is great for productivity related activities. A nice addition. How simple is it for the non-mechanically inclined? Or, better yet, can I pay you to make me one? Cost of dock, mod and shipping?

I did something similiar, but instead put a USB connector on the base. It looks nicer than it really is. The hole I cut was a bit too big so I filled it with hot glue and then put black electrical tape to make it look nice. Also the USB connector is purposely not flush with the housing as I have a 4G dongle that I plug in and I wanted room for it to stand straight up.
Oh and like you I no longer have audio out. Not a big deal as you can still use the headphone jack and I use BT to connect my audio.

Probably the best way to do it would be to mount a Mirco-AB socket in the back of the dock. Then you'd have the best of both worlds: you could plug a standard cable into the dock, and connect it to your pc; or you could plug in a OTG cable, and use it in host-mode.
I might try that with my second dock (that I have at work).
-Jim

Pity Motorola didn't release one with it in the first place

When I started the project I thought about putting both a micro-usb and the full-sized USB host connector with a switch to toggle between the two. Honestly though I hardly ever use the micro-usb to connect to my computer. I either use WiFi or simply plug a microsd into my laptop to transfer large files. So I gave up on that idea.
I am thinking about putting a small USB hub inside so I can have two or three USB host ports. I am thinking of USB 4G dongle, hard drive and possibly mouse/keyboard. If I can get that to work I also thought about tearing apart the USB-Ethernet dongle I have and putting an ethernet port on it as well. Maybe I just need to put all of that in a nice black box that could sit under the dock since I am running out of space on the back.

I've been thinking about converting my Droid X home dock into a Xoom dock lately. Looking at the USB/HDMI spacing on it I don't see why it wouldn't work. The only downfall of course would be needing to fit this into something more stable than the DX dock and then the lack of power to it. I've read some horror stories with docks and connector pins though so that might not be to huge an issue.
Anybody gone down this road?

The xoom only charges via the barrel connector or the surface pins. So any dock that has a USB connection that lines up would be fine for USB, but you won't be able to charge a xoom on any dock not designed for it.
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Just finished my micro USB add on.
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Getting the audio AND other USB ports
Re huckfin's idea of a usb hub in the xoom dock, does that mean you could connect one of the hubs o/p ports back to the xoom pcb and get the audio back, as well being able to use the other hub outputs for other functions at the same time?

aitken88 said:
Re huckfin's idea of a usb hub in the xoom dock, does that mean you could connect one of the hubs o/p ports back to the xoom pcb and get the audio back, as well being able to use the other hub outputs for other functions at the same time?
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I do not think so. There is only one connection to the Xoom and I think it can only do one or the other. I am guessing the yellow wire tells the Xoom to configure the port for audio instead of data. The idea behind adding a USB HUB was so I could plug multiple items into my dock, such as mouse, keyboard, hard drive and 4G dongle. I get all of my audio over bluetooth so the USB port was well worth the sacrifice.

Hello,
From what I read, there are only 4 cables on a standard usb (5 for the mini usb), and on the picture I see 6 cables. Could you explain which cable is to connect to which cable and what are you doing with the cables that are not connected?
Thanks

Thanks HuckFinn it is a pity that would not work.
Maybe ICS will give us a proper USB port!

aitken88 said:
Thanks HuckFinn it is a pity that would not work.
Maybe ICS will give us a proper USB port!
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It is not that the Xoom does not have a proper USB port. It has one port that can be used as a device port, host port or when using an unmodified dock, audio. Since it is one physical connection I do not think it is possible for it to do more than one of these functions at a time. When it is being used as a host port you can use a hub to connect multiple devices, but the Xoom port is still only being used as a host.
Regarding the connections, coming from the USB connection in the dock are six wires. The yellow wire is the odd wire that I am assuming tells the xoom to port audio out of the USB connection. I have not done any testing to confirm this. I know the brown wire triggers the host mode when tied to the black wire. The other wires, black, red, white and green are the standard USB connections, -, +, d+ and d- .

I bought this one on eBay yesterday. Hopefully it works to transfer data to the computer.

Let us now how it is. It looks nice
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I would be very careful using this dock. In the pictures it appears that it uses the very thin charging plug. I would be scared that any misalignment could damage either the dock or the pin inside the xoom.

HuckFinn said:
I would be very careful using this dock. In the pictures it appears that it uses the very thin charging plug. I would be scared that any misalignment could damage either the dock or the pin inside the xoom.
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Doesn't the official charger/speaker dock from Motorola also use the thin charging plug? I've looked at some youtube reviews and they seem to mention that it's not easy to dock due to that plug.

slonn said:
Doesn't the official charger/speaker dock from Motorola also use the thin charging plug? I've looked at some youtube reviews and they seem to mention that it's not easy to dock due to that plug.
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No, the standard and speaker docks use the gold contacts on the bottom of the Xoom to charge. The standard dock has the USB connector and the speaker dock has both usb and hdmi connectors, along with the two gold spring loaded pins which make contact with the Xoom.

Just finished my mod to the HD dock. Didn't have to splice any wires for this method. I had my spare Droid X dock lying around so I ripped the USB cable out of that for this mod. The DX USB cable mounts perfectly where the HD dock USB cable does, fits like a glove, and has a female end that's just about right to extend to the bass port on the HD dock.
- Removed DX dock USB cable
- Opened HD dock
- Removed bass port/screws and set aside in the dock box (no longer using this)
- Removed mounting bracket/screws for USB/HDMI/power
- Snipped off plastic w/pliers where existing USB cable was fed through (no cutting/splicing like I said - I did this to be able to remove the existing USB cable from the hole in the mounting bracket)
- Replaced HD's USB with the DX USB (fit like a glove)
- Reattached mounting bracket/screws for USB/HDMI/power
- Fed the new USB cable through where the bass port used to be
- Moved the original HD USB to the side (extension cable through the same bass port path would re-enable speaker capabilities)
- Double side taped the new USB to the end of the bass port hole (hot glue later)
- Re-assembled the dock
Pretty easy. Like I said, a little hot glue would have made the new USB port more stable, but I'll add this later. Also if I want to re-use the internal speaker I'd just need to get a micro USB extension cable and feed that through the bass port as well - just plug it to the female USB to enable the speaker.

What accesssories are you ordering with your Nexus?

I'm planning on ordering from Expansys and getting at least the MHL adapter (would the Expansys one work as well as the official Samsung one?), a car kit, and maybe this sleek looking case once it's in stock.

I would get the HTC MHL adapter. It looks much better and the ports are arranged more logically.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
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I'll be getting (when in stock) an extra battery
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery.html
and another charger for it
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery-charger.html

I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.

mskip said:
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
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Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable

gabster21 said:
Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
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Paul at Modaco has made a custom kernel to support usb drives *HERE*. I havent tested that function yet though so I cant confirm it works.
Mark.

I just picked up a MilitaryShield screen protector and carbon fiber skin from amazon. I thought for $15 I couldn't go wrong.
telepathically sent with my Galaxy Nexus which is being imprisoned by FedEx

i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?

i already bought the screen protector and mhl. will be buying a soft holster pouch if my droid x one doesnt fit in and probably some sort of case. maybe the one with the kickstand. and a battery

just bought a black leather fitbag case for it, also looking at buying a battery pack for it to charge on the go

Iv ordered a cheap ebay case, the leather flip one for when im out, £5 cant go wrong....

I want to be able to connect my Nexus to my Tv and watch videos and also play emulated games using controllers, so I'm getting the MHL Adapter and HDMI Cable. Free shipping on amazon? don't mind if I do.

idan_mo said:
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
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For what you're using it for, the 2nd one won't work, unless you plug the mhl cable directly into the phone (the port should be open since it's in landscape). Everyone needs to keep in mind that the 2nd one only charges it. It WILL NOT connect to a computer for file transfer, nor will it support mhl/HDMI out.
In terms of ease of use and function, I prefer the 2nd one though, because (going off how the nexus one worked) you can just drop the phone in/take it out one handed easily; no need to line the port up. This actually works better than the n1, since it would always fall over if you weren't careful (since it was oriented in portrait mode). In addition, the phone should automatically connect to the dock through bluetooth, which I loved on the N1.
Hope this helps your decision. Oh, and I'm definitely getting the official Samsung landscape dock

so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?

idan_mo said:
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
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For the official portrait dock, you may or may not be able to connect everything to the back of the dock. It depends on if Samsung is foolish or not.
For the official landscape dock (with the pins) the back can ONLY be used for charging the phone. The controller and HDMI out would have to be placed in the port of the phone itself, assuming that it actually shows while sitting in the dock (I don't know if it even does). The whole point of this dock is to be a stylish desk clock/charger, and nothing else. (Again, going off of the nexus one dock. There's an extremely slight possibility that they've improved the pin connector tech, but as far as I know, it wouldn't be enough to port full video through)
So for your uses, get the portrait dock. It connects to the phone via usb, and while it may not be as fancy as the landscape one, it'll almost definitely be more useful to you.

thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?

idan_mo said:
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.

tsunami1609 said:
Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Actually, it's either MHL or USB. They use the same pins, so you can never get USB and MHL to work at the same time.
If you want HDMI output and controller input at the same time, Bluetooth is the only way to go.

mskip said:
I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive.
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Make sure it's a USB-OTG cable and not a simple adapter. That one doesn't say that it's OTG. May still be though.

tsunami1609 said:
Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
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Has anyone tried the Sixaxis tool from the market on the SGS and confirm it works?
Also, I bought this USB micro to female adapter from Expansys: http://www.expansys.ae/expansys-micro-usb-male-to-usb-female-adapter-223101/
How do I find out if it's OTG or not?

[Discussion] Working OTG Devices

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USB Host DOES work with Flash Drives. For information see post 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37201971#post37201971
This is now my main focus. So I figure why not everyone post up what devices they got to work with the Kindle Fire 2 and/or what methods it took for you to do so.
3x Different Flash Drives: Not Working However one of their LED's Illuminate
USB Keyboard: Not Working
Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball: Working
I also tried a non powered hub, it didn't work. The Green LED Illuminated but nothing more. When connected to my Galaxy S 3 I can have multiple devices attached at a time. I tore the Hub down and found that it has a blank slot for power. I wired soldered in a 0.75a Samsung Wired Charger to it. It Illuminated the LED, As well as it illuminated the Power LED in Orange on the Kindle but no devices worked on the Hub. I tested the power output of the USB Ports and it was a little more than 5v per port.
Device: Kindle Fire 2
Rooted and TWRP'ed with the Nightly of CM10.1 1-20-2013
Will keep trying. As stated in another thread, that its simply power. After testing these things out, I don't think its power related. Either the kindle just doesn't have the "Drivers" if thats what you'd call it, or it simply can not run anything but a mouse. I hope that is not the case. It will ruin all appeal in my eyes.

If you're rooted, have you tried installing StickMount?
Might work for the flash drives.

I tried, Stickmount tries. You can tell its trying to work something out. So more tests with a cut up usb cable on the OTG cable does in fact show there is a voltage issue. My Galaxy puts out perfect 5v. The Kindle puts out around 2.5v. I tried making another OTG cable but failed. I guess its just not getting connection to the extra pin. So I have a USB Extension I'm gonna split open and power it. So I don't have to hack up my only working OTG.
The main issue I'm having with this is, my current power unit is a measly 0.75a. And It charges the device. So I figure there will still be a voltage issue due to the device charging. So I could cut the red wire going to the device for now. But not sure if the device will realize this somehow and just not work. Thoughts? I've seen this done before when someone made themselves a powered OTG Hub system out of a couple USB Cables.
I'll continue till I'm too tired to think hehe.
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Ok couple hours later.... lol I had a USB Extension, I cleanly just slit it down the m iddle and soldered in the two power wires from a samsung micro usb charger. The Power is 5v at 0.75a. So its not much. I know it wouldn't charge my nexus nor Galaxy Tab, but it charges the Kindle, or at least the kindle says it is. I doubt it really is. Anyway I soldered it in, cleaned up the surgery started some testing on my phone first. I connected a Micro USB cable to one end and then the other to my phone, and then the Kindle. It charges, or again says it is (*kindle might require more amperage). So Next I connect the OTG Cable to the other end and connect it to my phone, It charges through the OTG Cable. Next the Kindle, it does not charge the kindle. Possible amperage requirements, I don't know yet.
So onto the test without StickMount, Failure. It acts the same.
Test with StickMount, Well I'll let this screen shot explain most of it:
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It worked! StickMount notification pops up and I found the flash drive in the current location. Inside the SD Card under a folder called /usbstorage/sda1/. Not exactly my first choice, not sure if this can be changed to go into mnt or somewhere else. The Device itself doesn't notice the flash drive. So if you go into System/Storage, it does not show the flash drive. But it is fully functional. I accessed some files without any issues.
So my final consensus: The Kindle Fire 2 currently has OTG/USB Host Capabilities. From the USB Host Diagnostics I ran, its fully functional. However the main issue is Power. The second issue is the device on the most current (1/20/2013 CM10.1 Nightly) rom doesn't have the proper... I don't know the right wording for it, but lets say drivers since I'm a pc guy. I'm sure with more development, it can control any device with the only issue being power related. This takes away from the meaning of "On The Go". Having some sort of 5v power source connected to your device while your trying to use a hard drive or something else is going to be a pain in the ass for most people. For me it really does not matter since the device is going to be setup in my car for media sourcing as well as game play. So a 32gb flash drive and a Xbox 360 controller is all I will be using.
I will be doing more testing with multiple devices but it is 4am right now. One more thing, Bluetooth abilities are possible with a cheap dongle. However for some reason the Kindle recognizes it as a physical keyboard. I have tested this on other devices in the past so I believe it is possible with some more development. But that's far in the future and still of course require additional power.
Goodnight guys.

I have 3 different thumb drives.
Sony 4GB = does not work
SanDisk cruzer slide 16GB = does not work
SanDisk cruzer 8GB = Works
The regular cruzer is probably 5+ years old. I have access to others and will update my post when I get them.
I'm on PowerPoint45 cm 10.1 using chainfires stickmount.
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Nice. The regular flash prob requires less power. I noticed one of mine which was larger almost worked. But would shut off prob to not enough power. But a newer one wouldn't light up at all.
Plans for today: To re build that USB Hub I was messing with last night. I desoldered the USB cable off of it to solder in a Micro USB, But I don't remember if it worked. I then tried to turn it into an OTG direct 4port hub but nothing happened. So I'm sure I screwed something up. But the initial results should be a powered, 4port Micro USB OTG Hub. I just hope I have enough juice to make it work for not only charging the Kindle but powering the devices on the hub. I have a Galaxy Tab Official 2.0a car charger I can try out. I want to be able to have at the least, a 32gb Flash Drive and a 360 Gaming Controller.

Well I got some done today. I found an old phone charger that was 1a. I finally just used my OTG Cable and soldered it in place of the std usb connector on a cheap USB Hub. I'm sure everyone has the same hub I'm using, I have two, one says Microsoft on it, the other says AMD but they are super cheap and are given out everywhere you go:
Its a non powered USB hub, however when opened up there is a bare spot for a power connector. Middle pin is 5v + and the two around it are common Ground -.
Don't be strayed by my crap solder work. I'm using a cheap harbor freight soldering iron and the new charger has very thick wire so it didn't really fit in the small holes. The ground is just directly connected to everything else thats ground related so I grounded it there. That way the two wires aren't soo close together.
I have now successfully tested 3 flash drives, NTFS, Fat32 and some strange Fat32 drive plus my Trackball. As well as this I have successfully charged my Galaxy SIII off of the hub. I wouldn't exactly recommend this unless your running like a legit 2a charger. I only did it to test out power requirements. I think either my cable is damaged too or I'm at the limit of power the small 1a can handle because every once in a while the hub shuts off. I think its just cable related.
Here is everything connected as you can see.
However the tablet it self is not charging. At least the icon on the notification bar doesn't say so. I have tested the voltage here and its 5v. But IDK? Maybe the Kindle wont allow it? BUT, with all my testing, the battery has stayed at 88%. I'm gonna try to kill it some more. Maybe with some transferring files between drives.
lol As I'm typing this, I sit down for a second with the tablet on the carpet floor and just stare at it. I've noticed that some reason the led turns off and on at random times. But I've never seen it say its charging. Well the screen just dimmed but didn't shut off so I get up to check real fast and when I turn it on, it says 88% - Charging! But then instantly goes back to 88% - Not Charging when the screen lights up. And there it goes again (Please bare with me as I'm doing this all this very second.) Looks like it just needs some more amperage. 1a is not enough to power everything and charge the device.
I was worried that the kindle wasn't going to support Charging OTG. Well I happen to have a spare 2a Galaxy Tablet charger and no Galaxy Tab.... I'll try it out and get back to you guys!

nFiniti said:
Well I got some done today. I found an old phone charger that was 1a. I finally just used my OTG Cable and soldered it in place of the std usb connector on a cheap USB Hub. I'm sure everyone has the same hub I'm using, I have two, one says Microsoft on it, the other says AMD but they are super cheap and are given out everywhere you go:
Its a non powered USB hub, however when opened up there is a bare spot for a power connector. Middle pin is 5v + and the two around it are common Ground -.
Don't be strayed by my crap solder work. I'm using a cheap harbor freight soldering iron and the new charger has very thick wire so it didn't really fit in the small holes. The ground is just directly connected to everything else thats ground related so I grounded it there. That way the two wires aren't soo close together.
I have now successfully tested 3 flash drives, NTFS, Fat32 and some strange Fat32 drive plus my Trackball. As well as this I have successfully charged my Galaxy SIII off of the hub. I wouldn't exactly recommend this unless your running like a legit 2a charger. I only did it to test out power requirements. I think either my cable is damaged too or I'm at the limit of power the small 1a can handle because every once in a while the hub shuts off. I think its just cable related.
Here is everything connected as you can see.
*PIC REMOVED BY ME BECAUSE CMON, IT'S A QUOTE, YOU'VE SEEN THE PIC ALREADY!*
However the tablet it self is not charging. At least the icon on the notification bar doesn't say so. I have tested the voltage here and its 5v. But IDK? Maybe the Kindle wont allow it? BUT, with all my testing, the battery has stayed at 88%. I'm gonna try to kill it some more. Maybe with some transferring files between drives.
lol As I'm typing this, I sit down for a second with the tablet on the carpet floor and just stare at it. I've noticed that some reason the led turns off and on at random times. But I've never seen it say its charging. Well the screen just dimmed but didn't shut off so I get up to check real fast and when I turn it on, it says 88% - Charging! But then instantly goes back to 88% - Not Charging when the screen lights up. And there it goes again (Please bare with me as I'm doing this all this very second.) Looks like it just needs some more amperage. 1a is not enough to power everything and charge the device.
I was worried that the kindle wasn't going to support Charging OTG. Well I happen to have a spare 2a Galaxy Tablet charger and no Galaxy Tab.... I'll try it out and get back to you guys!
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This looks good! If you want, once you are done with the testing, I can try and write up a guide with your words on how to do it then let you post that. I did the same for some of the stickied threads. It looks like you're almost done and I think this would be a really good info thread once compiled nicely. Stuff like how to do OTG, what works, what needs a powered HUB, stuff like that. I personally will probably never use OTG, but I see the value and I like what it can be used for.
Best of luck!

That's nice. lol I understand I talk a lot, but when it comes to things I must have, like more than 5gb of memory on a device that should have a few TB . It would be nice for others to try out things to see what works and what doesn't. Because to have a powered USB Device is kinda not the point of OTG "On The Go". But like someone figured out that one of his older Flash drives worked, so hopefully others chime in too.
If you wanna do that, you have my approval. Just make sure it suits what I did, "Dedicated OTG". or "Guaranteed OTG". Since that's what I was mainly working towards. This discussion thread is mainly to locate what works and what doesn't and the main OTG Capabilities of the Kindle Fire2. I don't plan on changing much else to what I have already done except adding a larger psu to the hub so it charges the device while powering the hub and its devices for my own personal gain. I want to keep this open so people can throw up what they have learned as well so the information is out there for others. I personally hate going into a device and not knowing.

nFiniti said:
That's nice. lol I understand I talk a lot, but when it comes to things I must have, like more than 5gb of memory on a device that should have a few TB . It would be nice for others to try out things to see what works and what doesn't. Because to have a powered USB Device is kinda not the point of OTG "On The Go". But like someone figured out that one of his older Flash drives worked, so hopefully others chime in too.
If you wanna do that, you have my approval. Just make sure it suits what I did, "Dedicated OTG". or "Guaranteed OTG". Since that's what I was mainly working towards. This discussion thread is mainly to locate what works and what doesn't and the main OTG Capabilities of the Kindle Fire2. I don't plan on changing much else to what I have already done except adding a larger psu to the hub so it charges the device while powering the hub and its devices for my own personal gain. I want to keep this open so people can throw up what they have learned as well so the information is out there for others. I personally hate going into a device and not knowing.
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I should get an OTG cable. I have a small flashdrive, not sure about the name or brand since the size made it temporarily misplaced. It's the same size as the wireless receivers though for most modern mice and keyboard so it's SUPER small, which I actually wouldn't mind tucking the cable into my case, plus it's 32GB. The issue on PC, is the transfer rate is a little low, but that may be because it uses so little power, which I'm hoping.
Any good places to get an OTG cable?

Ebay, Amazon (great place for cables)
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTG...29,d.aWc&fp=4a19662fa4882be9&biw=1920&bih=965
Just a quick search. You can also make one, if space is an issue. You just need a MicroUSB and a female USB. Pin 5 gets soldered to pin 4 on the MicroUSB and bam! Making one would help with space issues since you can tuck the wires easier. If you are good at soldering.

nFiniti said:
Ebay, Amazon (great place for cables)
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTG...29,d.aWc&fp=4a19662fa4882be9&biw=1920&bih=965
Just a quick search. You can also make one, if space is an issue. You just need a MicroUSB and a female USB. Pin 5 gets soldered to pin 4 on the MicroUSB and bam! Making one would help with space issues since you can tuck the wires easier. If you are good at soldering.
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Is an OTG cable special or just F-USB and M-MicoUSB?
If it's just those, then I can go poke around Frys and Radioshack for one.
I don't know anything about soldering, how much is a good kit to get started? I think a friend of mine has one and knows how to use it, so I can ask him, but I realize it's something I should learn especially with the hardware mods I would love to do. If I can't find a cable in stores, or if it's special (I ask that because most employees at frys and whatnot aren't very helpful or knowledgable, so I don't want them giving me something that won't work, but if it's just those ends I'm looking for, I can do that) then I may just look into soldering my own and learning that. I see they're around $50 online but I don't want to screw myself over there.

You can chose a decent soldering iron anywhere from 15 to like 80 bucks. I recently saw some nice ones with adjustable power levels for good price. And tons of different tips. My brother Skorpn has the more expensive one that heats up fast and has adjustable power settings to fit any projects needs. Hr has a nice soldering station I wish I could use more. I however just have a cheap harbor freight iron with a fine tip from radio shack and I use the thinnest silver solder avail there as well. Flux is also a must.
Anyway. Otg mode is accomplished on the micro USB side. They have 5 pins instead of 4. The 5th is used for doing all sorts of things with the right add one tho. If you solder in a small wire to it and jump it to pin 4 which is ground, it turns on otg. Not really hard to do. You can make one decently. Just need a good micro USB cable and a female normal USB cable. Solder them together and then do the otg modifications.
Other than doing it yourself, they are very cheap. But if you have the spare cables, it doesn't hurt to play around.
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I've got my USB mouse to work using otg cable, is there any chance using it could damage my kindle, this Mount app I use says it can damage the kindle because of the power output
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I don't know what ap your talking about. But no. The Kindle Fire 2 only puts out half the voltage when in OTG Mode. So only certain things will work without additional power. Your mouse will work just fine, especially if its a wireless mouse, since the wireless device doesn't require hardly any power. Some other devices will work too. You don't need a mount app for using devices, only for Flash Drives. And so far out of every one I've used the best one is Chainfire's StickMount. Chainfire is the creator of Superuser.
Anyways, I'm not using a 2a charger to power my USB OTG Hub, and it powers all 4 devices and charges the device with ease. Cannot wait to have this thing installed.

OTG testing
After reading this thread I thought I would have a go and do some testing myself. so I found a USB y cable teamed that with a female to female USB adaptor so it would extend my OTG cable but allow me to pipe in some power (5v off a arduino) off the y cable. I have got my mouse working and USB flash drive but I cant get my Xbox 360 wired controller to work

facelessloser said:
After reading this thread I thought I would have a go and do some testing myself. so I found a USB y cable teamed that with a female to female USB adaptor so it would extend my OTG cable but allow me to pipe in some power (5v off a arduino) off the y cable. I have got my mouse working and USB flash drive but I cant get my Xbox 360 wired controller to work
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You know the amperage of the power source you are using? It might just be not enough power. Because the device itself will take from it also. Its pretty much splitting it. Which is why I went with a legit Galaxy Tab 2a charger since its one of the most powerful chargers I've come across. I hope it works. Since bluetooth doesn't work on the OTG yet, I need the 360 controller to work. I will be trying a wireless controller and one of those Microsoft adapters soon. Hopefully it works! I'd love to play some video games in the car

nFiniti said:
You know the amperage of the power source you are using? It might just be not enough power. Because the device itself will take from it also. Its pretty much splitting it. Which is why I went with a legit Galaxy Tab 2a charger since its one of the most powerful chargers I've come across. I hope it works. Since bluetooth doesn't work on the OTG yet, I need the 360 controller to work. I will be trying a wireless controller and one of those Microsoft adapters soon. Hopefully it works! I'd love to play some video games in the car
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You have a good point there, I haven't tested the amperage that comes out of a arduino but I don't think it would be much. I could try and hock up a iPad charger which I think is 2amp.
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facelessloser said:
You have a good point there, I haven't tested the amperage that comes out of a arduino but I don't think it would be much. I could try and hock up a iPad charger which I think is 2amp.
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I have just tested the Xbox 360 controller being powered from a iPad charging plug and now joy. It lights up but then goes off

I'm making my own otg cable tonight if the spare usb cable I found works for data and not just charging. Basically I have a female usb port on a cable that I used to splice in with an original Xbox controller plug to be able to use usb sticks as memory cards for my Xbox to be able to install gentoo Linux on my Xbox (original Xbox controllers are usb 1.0 with a proprietary plug type) so I know the female port works fine for data transfers.
Eventually I'll buy some plugs to solder onto both the usb and Xbox cables so I can yank the female plug from the otg cable and snap it right onto the Xbox plug instead of having to constantly re-splice them or buy a new usb extension cable for the female end/buy a pre made otg cable.
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Oh yeah, the point to my post was that I have three usb hubs, two powered one not, and a ton of stuff to test with my kf2 like a billion usb keyboards, mice, storage devices, and the one I REALLY want to get working, my afterglow Xbox 360 controller for minecraft pocket edition
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Support any KF2 ROM Bluetooth Dongles ? (to use BT headset)

avathor said:
Support any KF2 ROM Bluetooth Dongles ? (to use BT headset)
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IDK how thats going. I don't think anyone is working on it since the KF2 doesn't have bluetooth to begin with. When I connect my cheapo BT Dongle, it doesn't allow me to turn the switch to on. However it does see the BT Dongle and thinks its a keyboard of some sort. Which would be nice because I have a really nice BT Keyboard for Android I wanna use.
Also would be nice to use PS3 Controllers. I'm going to attempt the wireless 360 controller with the adapter one of these days, whenever I can focus some cash in that direction. I really want a wireless 360 controller on my KF2 so I can play some of the higher end games as well as the older Emulated games. Just think its too cool

OTG adapter

Bought two OTG adapters on eBay, they arrived from China today. When I attach them they are both recognized by the system. However, when I insert a USB memory stick I receive an error message about "high powered USB device" and the system won't acknowledge the presence of a memory stick. But, if I insert the Samsung OTG adapter I have no problem getting the same memory sticks accepted.
Is there anything I can do to correct this? Or have I just wasted $13? (I'm not gonna cry if that is the case)
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It is possible the active components in those adaptors plus the USB stick is pushing the consumption over the edge, where the simple Samsung adaptor does not.
I also have one of those adaptors by the way but have not had the same problem so far. Maybe my USB stick needs less power.

Kumabjorn said:
Bought two OTG adapters on eBay, they arrived from China today. When I attach them they are both recognized by the system. However, when I insert a USB memory stick I receive an error message about "high powered USB device" and the system won't acknowledge the presence of a memory stick. But, if I insert the Samsung OTG adapter I have no problem getting the same memory sticks accepted.
Is there anything I can do to correct this? Or have I just wasted $13? (I'm not gonna cry if that is the case)
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Try to support the OTG with an external power supply...
Good luck

Galaxyer said:
Try to support the OTG with an external power supply...
Good luck
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The one with the cord seems to have a connector, but the other doesn't. I suppose the 5V standard is applicable.
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Try connecting everything together then connecting the OTG adapter to the Note. I have the same issue sometimes when connecting any device if the adapter is already connected.

Kumabjorn said:
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Could I get a link for that one on the left (with the cable)?
Also, FWIW, I have three of the one on the right, and one of them just doesn't work reliably at all; glad I'd bought more than one (they were like ~$2.50 so something told me I should get spares )

did you check if there is a small button to change mode on the hubs ?

aalupatti said:
did you check if there is a small button to change mode on the hubs ?
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Yes, of course

rtan73 said:
Try connecting everything together then connecting the OTG adapter to the Note. I have the same issue sometimes when connecting any device if the adapter is already connected.
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Once in a while I had the same issue with the original adapter. With the new ones I don't get the error message but neither is the presence of the USB memory acknowledged. The larger one with cord has a blue power light that goes on. It turns off when I insert the stick but stay on when I insert it joint with the OTG adapter.
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kcrudup said:
Could I get a link for that one on the left (with the cable)?
Also, FWIW, I have three of the one on the right, and one of them just doesn't work reliably at all; glad I'd bought more than one (they were like ~$2.50 so something told me I should get spares )
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http://dx.com/p/5-in-1-combo-connec...ard-reader-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-160647
Just remember, it isn't working.
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aalupatti said:
did you check if there is a small button to change mode on the hubs ?
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The small one has it, I thought it was an ejector button for the card slot. I tried changing it but same difference.
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I have an OTG adapter that's jsut a data-port-plug then a cable leading to a female-USB, I've had a lot of issues with USB devices being classified as "high power" and not working (including an Xbox360 controller, which has been listed on this site as usable without external power) I've tried 5 different hubs, and only 1 will work (3 brand-name (2x Ultra, 1xBelkin) and 2 unbranded from china) that's the one that accepts external power.
I could be wrong but I think they pulled the same trick apple did and an update lowered the power to the docking port, so you HAVE to use a powered hub to do much of anything... (though for the record, none of my 4 USB sticks (1gb, 4gb, 64gb, 64gb) have required external power...)

Kumabjorn said:
Link to reader I'd wanted. Just remember, it isn't working.
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Oh, that's OK- I make my own kernels and can probably get around that host-mode current-draw issue.

Ashton_Durkhun said:
I have an OTG adapter that's jsut a data-port-plug then a cable leading to a female-USB, I've had a lot of issues with USB devices being classified as "high power" and not working (including an Xbox360 controller, which has been listed on this site as usable without external power) I've tried 5 different hubs, and only 1 will work (3 brand-name (2x Ultra, 1xBelkin) and 2 unbranded from china) that's the one that accepts external power.
I could be wrong but I think they pulled the same trick apple did and an update lowered the power to the docking port, so you HAVE to use a powered hub to do much of anything... (though for the record, none of my 4 USB sticks (1gb, 4gb, 64gb, 64gb) have required external power...)
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Yeah, it surprised me to get that error on a memory stick, I didn't think they used much voltage.
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So, now I have tried all possible connections to see if I could get the OTG adapters to work. The short answer is that they are rubbish.
I connected older (USB 1.0 and 2.0) memory sticks to no avail. Granted I didn't get the high power error message, but I didn't get anything else either, least of all access to my files. So that was out. I then connected a USB keyboard, again I received the high power error message and couldn't use the keyboard. Finally I connected a portable charger to the larger (5-in-1) connecter, the one with the cable, in order to see if that would help. All it did was burn the inside, took a few moments and then smoke started to come out together with the unmistakable smell of burnt copper.
Anyone, interested in these connectors would be wise to proceed with caution. Yes, the price is alluring, but if value is zero then anything over zero is too expensive.
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Kumabjorn said:
So, now I have tried all possible connections to see if I could get the OTG adapters to work. The short answer is that they are rubbish.
I connected older (USB 1.0 and 2.0) memory sticks to no avail. Granted I didn't get the high power error message, but I didn't get anything else either, least of all access to my files. So that was out. I then connected a USB keyboard, again I received the high power error message and couldn't use the keyboard. Finally I connected a portable charger to the larger (5-in-1) connecter, the one with the cable, in order to see if that would help. All it did was burn the inside, took a few moments and then smoke started to come out together with the unmistakable smell of burnt copper.
Anyone, interested in these connectors would be wise to proceed with caution. Yes, the price is alluring, but if value is zero then anything over zero is too expensive.
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Looks like the ability to connect a USB stick is questionable. I just got an adaptor, the one that is just cable with female usb on one end. I plug it in and the device says USB connected. Doesn't recognize the card. But I do not get the error about "high power device" that everyone is referring to. It just doesn't recognize the card.
I used two cards. One is an Attache 16gb that has a rather bright light on it. On the laptop, when its plugged in, it stays on, and blinks when being accessed. When I plug it in to the tablet, the light comes on for a couple seconds, goes out, and nothing.
The other one is a PNY 16gb with no light. I tried it thinking the light might have thrown the Attache over the edge. The PNY doesn't seem to be recognized either. No errors. Just no response.
Is there a mount or something I have to do somewhere? Documentation with this thing is less than stellar so if there IS a document that answers this, I haven't found it.
Thanks.
EDIT: I tried with a powered USB hub and it worked. So its definitely a level of power issue. Now the trick is to find a way to have portable power on the hub. I recently tried using one of the portable cell phone power packs but I think it may have been defective as it would not charge up. I had purchased a solar powered USB hub but it worked once then ceased forever to function.