Bought two OTG adapters on eBay, they arrived from China today. When I attach them they are both recognized by the system. However, when I insert a USB memory stick I receive an error message about "high powered USB device" and the system won't acknowledge the presence of a memory stick. But, if I insert the Samsung OTG adapter I have no problem getting the same memory sticks accepted.
Is there anything I can do to correct this? Or have I just wasted $13? (I'm not gonna cry if that is the case)
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It is possible the active components in those adaptors plus the USB stick is pushing the consumption over the edge, where the simple Samsung adaptor does not.
I also have one of those adaptors by the way but have not had the same problem so far. Maybe my USB stick needs less power.
Kumabjorn said:
Bought two OTG adapters on eBay, they arrived from China today. When I attach them they are both recognized by the system. However, when I insert a USB memory stick I receive an error message about "high powered USB device" and the system won't acknowledge the presence of a memory stick. But, if I insert the Samsung OTG adapter I have no problem getting the same memory sticks accepted.
Is there anything I can do to correct this? Or have I just wasted $13? (I'm not gonna cry if that is the case)
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Try to support the OTG with an external power supply...
Good luck
Galaxyer said:
Try to support the OTG with an external power supply...
Good luck
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The one with the cord seems to have a connector, but the other doesn't. I suppose the 5V standard is applicable.
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Try connecting everything together then connecting the OTG adapter to the Note. I have the same issue sometimes when connecting any device if the adapter is already connected.
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Could I get a link for that one on the left (with the cable)?
Also, FWIW, I have three of the one on the right, and one of them just doesn't work reliably at all; glad I'd bought more than one (they were like ~$2.50 so something told me I should get spares )
did you check if there is a small button to change mode on the hubs ?
aalupatti said:
did you check if there is a small button to change mode on the hubs ?
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Yes, of course
rtan73 said:
Try connecting everything together then connecting the OTG adapter to the Note. I have the same issue sometimes when connecting any device if the adapter is already connected.
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Once in a while I had the same issue with the original adapter. With the new ones I don't get the error message but neither is the presence of the USB memory acknowledged. The larger one with cord has a blue power light that goes on. It turns off when I insert the stick but stay on when I insert it joint with the OTG adapter.
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Could I get a link for that one on the left (with the cable)?
Also, FWIW, I have three of the one on the right, and one of them just doesn't work reliably at all; glad I'd bought more than one (they were like ~$2.50 so something told me I should get spares )
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http://dx.com/p/5-in-1-combo-connec...ard-reader-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-160647
Just remember, it isn't working.
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did you check if there is a small button to change mode on the hubs ?
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The small one has it, I thought it was an ejector button for the card slot. I tried changing it but same difference.
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I have an OTG adapter that's jsut a data-port-plug then a cable leading to a female-USB, I've had a lot of issues with USB devices being classified as "high power" and not working (including an Xbox360 controller, which has been listed on this site as usable without external power) I've tried 5 different hubs, and only 1 will work (3 brand-name (2x Ultra, 1xBelkin) and 2 unbranded from china) that's the one that accepts external power.
I could be wrong but I think they pulled the same trick apple did and an update lowered the power to the docking port, so you HAVE to use a powered hub to do much of anything... (though for the record, none of my 4 USB sticks (1gb, 4gb, 64gb, 64gb) have required external power...)
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Link to reader I'd wanted. Just remember, it isn't working.
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Oh, that's OK- I make my own kernels and can probably get around that host-mode current-draw issue.
Ashton_Durkhun said:
I have an OTG adapter that's jsut a data-port-plug then a cable leading to a female-USB, I've had a lot of issues with USB devices being classified as "high power" and not working (including an Xbox360 controller, which has been listed on this site as usable without external power) I've tried 5 different hubs, and only 1 will work (3 brand-name (2x Ultra, 1xBelkin) and 2 unbranded from china) that's the one that accepts external power.
I could be wrong but I think they pulled the same trick apple did and an update lowered the power to the docking port, so you HAVE to use a powered hub to do much of anything... (though for the record, none of my 4 USB sticks (1gb, 4gb, 64gb, 64gb) have required external power...)
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Yeah, it surprised me to get that error on a memory stick, I didn't think they used much voltage.
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So, now I have tried all possible connections to see if I could get the OTG adapters to work. The short answer is that they are rubbish.
I connected older (USB 1.0 and 2.0) memory sticks to no avail. Granted I didn't get the high power error message, but I didn't get anything else either, least of all access to my files. So that was out. I then connected a USB keyboard, again I received the high power error message and couldn't use the keyboard. Finally I connected a portable charger to the larger (5-in-1) connecter, the one with the cable, in order to see if that would help. All it did was burn the inside, took a few moments and then smoke started to come out together with the unmistakable smell of burnt copper.
Anyone, interested in these connectors would be wise to proceed with caution. Yes, the price is alluring, but if value is zero then anything over zero is too expensive.
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Kumabjorn said:
So, now I have tried all possible connections to see if I could get the OTG adapters to work. The short answer is that they are rubbish.
I connected older (USB 1.0 and 2.0) memory sticks to no avail. Granted I didn't get the high power error message, but I didn't get anything else either, least of all access to my files. So that was out. I then connected a USB keyboard, again I received the high power error message and couldn't use the keyboard. Finally I connected a portable charger to the larger (5-in-1) connecter, the one with the cable, in order to see if that would help. All it did was burn the inside, took a few moments and then smoke started to come out together with the unmistakable smell of burnt copper.
Anyone, interested in these connectors would be wise to proceed with caution. Yes, the price is alluring, but if value is zero then anything over zero is too expensive.
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Looks like the ability to connect a USB stick is questionable. I just got an adaptor, the one that is just cable with female usb on one end. I plug it in and the device says USB connected. Doesn't recognize the card. But I do not get the error about "high power device" that everyone is referring to. It just doesn't recognize the card.
I used two cards. One is an Attache 16gb that has a rather bright light on it. On the laptop, when its plugged in, it stays on, and blinks when being accessed. When I plug it in to the tablet, the light comes on for a couple seconds, goes out, and nothing.
The other one is a PNY 16gb with no light. I tried it thinking the light might have thrown the Attache over the edge. The PNY doesn't seem to be recognized either. No errors. Just no response.
Is there a mount or something I have to do somewhere? Documentation with this thing is less than stellar so if there IS a document that answers this, I haven't found it.
Thanks.
EDIT: I tried with a powered USB hub and it worked. So its definitely a level of power issue. Now the trick is to find a way to have portable power on the hub. I recently tried using one of the portable cell phone power packs but I think it may have been defective as it would not charge up. I had purchased a solar powered USB hub but it worked once then ceased forever to function.
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I'm planning on ordering from Expansys and getting at least the MHL adapter (would the Expansys one work as well as the official Samsung one?), a car kit, and maybe this sleek looking case once it's in stock.
I would get the HTC MHL adapter. It looks much better and the ports are arranged more logically.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
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I'll be getting (when in stock) an extra battery
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery.html
and another charger for it
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery-charger.html
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
mskip said:
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
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Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
gabster21 said:
Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
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Paul at Modaco has made a custom kernel to support usb drives *HERE*. I havent tested that function yet though so I cant confirm it works.
Mark.
I just picked up a MilitaryShield screen protector and carbon fiber skin from amazon. I thought for $15 I couldn't go wrong.
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i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
i already bought the screen protector and mhl. will be buying a soft holster pouch if my droid x one doesnt fit in and probably some sort of case. maybe the one with the kickstand. and a battery
just bought a black leather fitbag case for it, also looking at buying a battery pack for it to charge on the go
Iv ordered a cheap ebay case, the leather flip one for when im out, £5 cant go wrong....
I want to be able to connect my Nexus to my Tv and watch videos and also play emulated games using controllers, so I'm getting the MHL Adapter and HDMI Cable. Free shipping on amazon? don't mind if I do.
idan_mo said:
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
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For what you're using it for, the 2nd one won't work, unless you plug the mhl cable directly into the phone (the port should be open since it's in landscape). Everyone needs to keep in mind that the 2nd one only charges it. It WILL NOT connect to a computer for file transfer, nor will it support mhl/HDMI out.
In terms of ease of use and function, I prefer the 2nd one though, because (going off how the nexus one worked) you can just drop the phone in/take it out one handed easily; no need to line the port up. This actually works better than the n1, since it would always fall over if you weren't careful (since it was oriented in portrait mode). In addition, the phone should automatically connect to the dock through bluetooth, which I loved on the N1.
Hope this helps your decision. Oh, and I'm definitely getting the official Samsung landscape dock
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
idan_mo said:
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
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For the official portrait dock, you may or may not be able to connect everything to the back of the dock. It depends on if Samsung is foolish or not.
For the official landscape dock (with the pins) the back can ONLY be used for charging the phone. The controller and HDMI out would have to be placed in the port of the phone itself, assuming that it actually shows while sitting in the dock (I don't know if it even does). The whole point of this dock is to be a stylish desk clock/charger, and nothing else. (Again, going off of the nexus one dock. There's an extremely slight possibility that they've improved the pin connector tech, but as far as I know, it wouldn't be enough to port full video through)
So for your uses, get the portrait dock. It connects to the phone via usb, and while it may not be as fancy as the landscape one, it'll almost definitely be more useful to you.
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
idan_mo said:
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Actually, it's either MHL or USB. They use the same pins, so you can never get USB and MHL to work at the same time.
If you want HDMI output and controller input at the same time, Bluetooth is the only way to go.
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I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive.
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Make sure it's a USB-OTG cable and not a simple adapter. That one doesn't say that it's OTG. May still be though.
tsunami1609 said:
Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
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Has anyone tried the Sixaxis tool from the market on the SGS and confirm it works?
Also, I bought this USB micro to female adapter from Expansys: http://www.expansys.ae/expansys-micro-usb-male-to-usb-female-adapter-223101/
How do I find out if it's OTG or not?
***EDIT***
USB Host DOES work with Flash Drives. For information see post 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37201971#post37201971
This is now my main focus. So I figure why not everyone post up what devices they got to work with the Kindle Fire 2 and/or what methods it took for you to do so.
3x Different Flash Drives: Not Working However one of their LED's Illuminate
USB Keyboard: Not Working
Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball: Working
I also tried a non powered hub, it didn't work. The Green LED Illuminated but nothing more. When connected to my Galaxy S 3 I can have multiple devices attached at a time. I tore the Hub down and found that it has a blank slot for power. I wired soldered in a 0.75a Samsung Wired Charger to it. It Illuminated the LED, As well as it illuminated the Power LED in Orange on the Kindle but no devices worked on the Hub. I tested the power output of the USB Ports and it was a little more than 5v per port.
Device: Kindle Fire 2
Rooted and TWRP'ed with the Nightly of CM10.1 1-20-2013
Will keep trying. As stated in another thread, that its simply power. After testing these things out, I don't think its power related. Either the kindle just doesn't have the "Drivers" if thats what you'd call it, or it simply can not run anything but a mouse. I hope that is not the case. It will ruin all appeal in my eyes.
If you're rooted, have you tried installing StickMount?
Might work for the flash drives.
I tried, Stickmount tries. You can tell its trying to work something out. So more tests with a cut up usb cable on the OTG cable does in fact show there is a voltage issue. My Galaxy puts out perfect 5v. The Kindle puts out around 2.5v. I tried making another OTG cable but failed. I guess its just not getting connection to the extra pin. So I have a USB Extension I'm gonna split open and power it. So I don't have to hack up my only working OTG.
The main issue I'm having with this is, my current power unit is a measly 0.75a. And It charges the device. So I figure there will still be a voltage issue due to the device charging. So I could cut the red wire going to the device for now. But not sure if the device will realize this somehow and just not work. Thoughts? I've seen this done before when someone made themselves a powered OTG Hub system out of a couple USB Cables.
I'll continue till I'm too tired to think hehe.
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Ok couple hours later.... lol I had a USB Extension, I cleanly just slit it down the m iddle and soldered in the two power wires from a samsung micro usb charger. The Power is 5v at 0.75a. So its not much. I know it wouldn't charge my nexus nor Galaxy Tab, but it charges the Kindle, or at least the kindle says it is. I doubt it really is. Anyway I soldered it in, cleaned up the surgery started some testing on my phone first. I connected a Micro USB cable to one end and then the other to my phone, and then the Kindle. It charges, or again says it is (*kindle might require more amperage). So Next I connect the OTG Cable to the other end and connect it to my phone, It charges through the OTG Cable. Next the Kindle, it does not charge the kindle. Possible amperage requirements, I don't know yet.
So onto the test without StickMount, Failure. It acts the same.
Test with StickMount, Well I'll let this screen shot explain most of it:
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It worked! StickMount notification pops up and I found the flash drive in the current location. Inside the SD Card under a folder called /usbstorage/sda1/. Not exactly my first choice, not sure if this can be changed to go into mnt or somewhere else. The Device itself doesn't notice the flash drive. So if you go into System/Storage, it does not show the flash drive. But it is fully functional. I accessed some files without any issues.
So my final consensus: The Kindle Fire 2 currently has OTG/USB Host Capabilities. From the USB Host Diagnostics I ran, its fully functional. However the main issue is Power. The second issue is the device on the most current (1/20/2013 CM10.1 Nightly) rom doesn't have the proper... I don't know the right wording for it, but lets say drivers since I'm a pc guy. I'm sure with more development, it can control any device with the only issue being power related. This takes away from the meaning of "On The Go". Having some sort of 5v power source connected to your device while your trying to use a hard drive or something else is going to be a pain in the ass for most people. For me it really does not matter since the device is going to be setup in my car for media sourcing as well as game play. So a 32gb flash drive and a Xbox 360 controller is all I will be using.
I will be doing more testing with multiple devices but it is 4am right now. One more thing, Bluetooth abilities are possible with a cheap dongle. However for some reason the Kindle recognizes it as a physical keyboard. I have tested this on other devices in the past so I believe it is possible with some more development. But that's far in the future and still of course require additional power.
Goodnight guys.
I have 3 different thumb drives.
Sony 4GB = does not work
SanDisk cruzer slide 16GB = does not work
SanDisk cruzer 8GB = Works
The regular cruzer is probably 5+ years old. I have access to others and will update my post when I get them.
I'm on PowerPoint45 cm 10.1 using chainfires stickmount.
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Nice. The regular flash prob requires less power. I noticed one of mine which was larger almost worked. But would shut off prob to not enough power. But a newer one wouldn't light up at all.
Plans for today: To re build that USB Hub I was messing with last night. I desoldered the USB cable off of it to solder in a Micro USB, But I don't remember if it worked. I then tried to turn it into an OTG direct 4port hub but nothing happened. So I'm sure I screwed something up. But the initial results should be a powered, 4port Micro USB OTG Hub. I just hope I have enough juice to make it work for not only charging the Kindle but powering the devices on the hub. I have a Galaxy Tab Official 2.0a car charger I can try out. I want to be able to have at the least, a 32gb Flash Drive and a 360 Gaming Controller.
Well I got some done today. I found an old phone charger that was 1a. I finally just used my OTG Cable and soldered it in place of the std usb connector on a cheap USB Hub. I'm sure everyone has the same hub I'm using, I have two, one says Microsoft on it, the other says AMD but they are super cheap and are given out everywhere you go:
Its a non powered USB hub, however when opened up there is a bare spot for a power connector. Middle pin is 5v + and the two around it are common Ground -.
Don't be strayed by my crap solder work. I'm using a cheap harbor freight soldering iron and the new charger has very thick wire so it didn't really fit in the small holes. The ground is just directly connected to everything else thats ground related so I grounded it there. That way the two wires aren't soo close together.
I have now successfully tested 3 flash drives, NTFS, Fat32 and some strange Fat32 drive plus my Trackball. As well as this I have successfully charged my Galaxy SIII off of the hub. I wouldn't exactly recommend this unless your running like a legit 2a charger. I only did it to test out power requirements. I think either my cable is damaged too or I'm at the limit of power the small 1a can handle because every once in a while the hub shuts off. I think its just cable related.
Here is everything connected as you can see.
However the tablet it self is not charging. At least the icon on the notification bar doesn't say so. I have tested the voltage here and its 5v. But IDK? Maybe the Kindle wont allow it? BUT, with all my testing, the battery has stayed at 88%. I'm gonna try to kill it some more. Maybe with some transferring files between drives.
lol As I'm typing this, I sit down for a second with the tablet on the carpet floor and just stare at it. I've noticed that some reason the led turns off and on at random times. But I've never seen it say its charging. Well the screen just dimmed but didn't shut off so I get up to check real fast and when I turn it on, it says 88% - Charging! But then instantly goes back to 88% - Not Charging when the screen lights up. And there it goes again (Please bare with me as I'm doing this all this very second.) Looks like it just needs some more amperage. 1a is not enough to power everything and charge the device.
I was worried that the kindle wasn't going to support Charging OTG. Well I happen to have a spare 2a Galaxy Tablet charger and no Galaxy Tab.... I'll try it out and get back to you guys!
nFiniti said:
Well I got some done today. I found an old phone charger that was 1a. I finally just used my OTG Cable and soldered it in place of the std usb connector on a cheap USB Hub. I'm sure everyone has the same hub I'm using, I have two, one says Microsoft on it, the other says AMD but they are super cheap and are given out everywhere you go:
Its a non powered USB hub, however when opened up there is a bare spot for a power connector. Middle pin is 5v + and the two around it are common Ground -.
Don't be strayed by my crap solder work. I'm using a cheap harbor freight soldering iron and the new charger has very thick wire so it didn't really fit in the small holes. The ground is just directly connected to everything else thats ground related so I grounded it there. That way the two wires aren't soo close together.
I have now successfully tested 3 flash drives, NTFS, Fat32 and some strange Fat32 drive plus my Trackball. As well as this I have successfully charged my Galaxy SIII off of the hub. I wouldn't exactly recommend this unless your running like a legit 2a charger. I only did it to test out power requirements. I think either my cable is damaged too or I'm at the limit of power the small 1a can handle because every once in a while the hub shuts off. I think its just cable related.
Here is everything connected as you can see.
*PIC REMOVED BY ME BECAUSE CMON, IT'S A QUOTE, YOU'VE SEEN THE PIC ALREADY!*
However the tablet it self is not charging. At least the icon on the notification bar doesn't say so. I have tested the voltage here and its 5v. But IDK? Maybe the Kindle wont allow it? BUT, with all my testing, the battery has stayed at 88%. I'm gonna try to kill it some more. Maybe with some transferring files between drives.
lol As I'm typing this, I sit down for a second with the tablet on the carpet floor and just stare at it. I've noticed that some reason the led turns off and on at random times. But I've never seen it say its charging. Well the screen just dimmed but didn't shut off so I get up to check real fast and when I turn it on, it says 88% - Charging! But then instantly goes back to 88% - Not Charging when the screen lights up. And there it goes again (Please bare with me as I'm doing this all this very second.) Looks like it just needs some more amperage. 1a is not enough to power everything and charge the device.
I was worried that the kindle wasn't going to support Charging OTG. Well I happen to have a spare 2a Galaxy Tablet charger and no Galaxy Tab.... I'll try it out and get back to you guys!
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This looks good! If you want, once you are done with the testing, I can try and write up a guide with your words on how to do it then let you post that. I did the same for some of the stickied threads. It looks like you're almost done and I think this would be a really good info thread once compiled nicely. Stuff like how to do OTG, what works, what needs a powered HUB, stuff like that. I personally will probably never use OTG, but I see the value and I like what it can be used for.
Best of luck!
That's nice. lol I understand I talk a lot, but when it comes to things I must have, like more than 5gb of memory on a device that should have a few TB . It would be nice for others to try out things to see what works and what doesn't. Because to have a powered USB Device is kinda not the point of OTG "On The Go". But like someone figured out that one of his older Flash drives worked, so hopefully others chime in too.
If you wanna do that, you have my approval. Just make sure it suits what I did, "Dedicated OTG". or "Guaranteed OTG". Since that's what I was mainly working towards. This discussion thread is mainly to locate what works and what doesn't and the main OTG Capabilities of the Kindle Fire2. I don't plan on changing much else to what I have already done except adding a larger psu to the hub so it charges the device while powering the hub and its devices for my own personal gain. I want to keep this open so people can throw up what they have learned as well so the information is out there for others. I personally hate going into a device and not knowing.
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That's nice. lol I understand I talk a lot, but when it comes to things I must have, like more than 5gb of memory on a device that should have a few TB . It would be nice for others to try out things to see what works and what doesn't. Because to have a powered USB Device is kinda not the point of OTG "On The Go". But like someone figured out that one of his older Flash drives worked, so hopefully others chime in too.
If you wanna do that, you have my approval. Just make sure it suits what I did, "Dedicated OTG". or "Guaranteed OTG". Since that's what I was mainly working towards. This discussion thread is mainly to locate what works and what doesn't and the main OTG Capabilities of the Kindle Fire2. I don't plan on changing much else to what I have already done except adding a larger psu to the hub so it charges the device while powering the hub and its devices for my own personal gain. I want to keep this open so people can throw up what they have learned as well so the information is out there for others. I personally hate going into a device and not knowing.
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I should get an OTG cable. I have a small flashdrive, not sure about the name or brand since the size made it temporarily misplaced. It's the same size as the wireless receivers though for most modern mice and keyboard so it's SUPER small, which I actually wouldn't mind tucking the cable into my case, plus it's 32GB. The issue on PC, is the transfer rate is a little low, but that may be because it uses so little power, which I'm hoping.
Any good places to get an OTG cable?
Ebay, Amazon (great place for cables)
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTG...29,d.aWc&fp=4a19662fa4882be9&biw=1920&bih=965
Just a quick search. You can also make one, if space is an issue. You just need a MicroUSB and a female USB. Pin 5 gets soldered to pin 4 on the MicroUSB and bam! Making one would help with space issues since you can tuck the wires easier. If you are good at soldering.
nFiniti said:
Ebay, Amazon (great place for cables)
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTG...29,d.aWc&fp=4a19662fa4882be9&biw=1920&bih=965
Just a quick search. You can also make one, if space is an issue. You just need a MicroUSB and a female USB. Pin 5 gets soldered to pin 4 on the MicroUSB and bam! Making one would help with space issues since you can tuck the wires easier. If you are good at soldering.
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Is an OTG cable special or just F-USB and M-MicoUSB?
If it's just those, then I can go poke around Frys and Radioshack for one.
I don't know anything about soldering, how much is a good kit to get started? I think a friend of mine has one and knows how to use it, so I can ask him, but I realize it's something I should learn especially with the hardware mods I would love to do. If I can't find a cable in stores, or if it's special (I ask that because most employees at frys and whatnot aren't very helpful or knowledgable, so I don't want them giving me something that won't work, but if it's just those ends I'm looking for, I can do that) then I may just look into soldering my own and learning that. I see they're around $50 online but I don't want to screw myself over there.
You can chose a decent soldering iron anywhere from 15 to like 80 bucks. I recently saw some nice ones with adjustable power levels for good price. And tons of different tips. My brother Skorpn has the more expensive one that heats up fast and has adjustable power settings to fit any projects needs. Hr has a nice soldering station I wish I could use more. I however just have a cheap harbor freight iron with a fine tip from radio shack and I use the thinnest silver solder avail there as well. Flux is also a must.
Anyway. Otg mode is accomplished on the micro USB side. They have 5 pins instead of 4. The 5th is used for doing all sorts of things with the right add one tho. If you solder in a small wire to it and jump it to pin 4 which is ground, it turns on otg. Not really hard to do. You can make one decently. Just need a good micro USB cable and a female normal USB cable. Solder them together and then do the otg modifications.
Other than doing it yourself, they are very cheap. But if you have the spare cables, it doesn't hurt to play around.
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I've got my USB mouse to work using otg cable, is there any chance using it could damage my kindle, this Mount app I use says it can damage the kindle because of the power output
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I don't know what ap your talking about. But no. The Kindle Fire 2 only puts out half the voltage when in OTG Mode. So only certain things will work without additional power. Your mouse will work just fine, especially if its a wireless mouse, since the wireless device doesn't require hardly any power. Some other devices will work too. You don't need a mount app for using devices, only for Flash Drives. And so far out of every one I've used the best one is Chainfire's StickMount. Chainfire is the creator of Superuser.
Anyways, I'm not using a 2a charger to power my USB OTG Hub, and it powers all 4 devices and charges the device with ease. Cannot wait to have this thing installed.
OTG testing
After reading this thread I thought I would have a go and do some testing myself. so I found a USB y cable teamed that with a female to female USB adaptor so it would extend my OTG cable but allow me to pipe in some power (5v off a arduino) off the y cable. I have got my mouse working and USB flash drive but I cant get my Xbox 360 wired controller to work
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After reading this thread I thought I would have a go and do some testing myself. so I found a USB y cable teamed that with a female to female USB adaptor so it would extend my OTG cable but allow me to pipe in some power (5v off a arduino) off the y cable. I have got my mouse working and USB flash drive but I cant get my Xbox 360 wired controller to work
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You know the amperage of the power source you are using? It might just be not enough power. Because the device itself will take from it also. Its pretty much splitting it. Which is why I went with a legit Galaxy Tab 2a charger since its one of the most powerful chargers I've come across. I hope it works. Since bluetooth doesn't work on the OTG yet, I need the 360 controller to work. I will be trying a wireless controller and one of those Microsoft adapters soon. Hopefully it works! I'd love to play some video games in the car
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You know the amperage of the power source you are using? It might just be not enough power. Because the device itself will take from it also. Its pretty much splitting it. Which is why I went with a legit Galaxy Tab 2a charger since its one of the most powerful chargers I've come across. I hope it works. Since bluetooth doesn't work on the OTG yet, I need the 360 controller to work. I will be trying a wireless controller and one of those Microsoft adapters soon. Hopefully it works! I'd love to play some video games in the car
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You have a good point there, I haven't tested the amperage that comes out of a arduino but I don't think it would be much. I could try and hock up a iPad charger which I think is 2amp.
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You have a good point there, I haven't tested the amperage that comes out of a arduino but I don't think it would be much. I could try and hock up a iPad charger which I think is 2amp.
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I have just tested the Xbox 360 controller being powered from a iPad charging plug and now joy. It lights up but then goes off
I'm making my own otg cable tonight if the spare usb cable I found works for data and not just charging. Basically I have a female usb port on a cable that I used to splice in with an original Xbox controller plug to be able to use usb sticks as memory cards for my Xbox to be able to install gentoo Linux on my Xbox (original Xbox controllers are usb 1.0 with a proprietary plug type) so I know the female port works fine for data transfers.
Eventually I'll buy some plugs to solder onto both the usb and Xbox cables so I can yank the female plug from the otg cable and snap it right onto the Xbox plug instead of having to constantly re-splice them or buy a new usb extension cable for the female end/buy a pre made otg cable.
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Oh yeah, the point to my post was that I have three usb hubs, two powered one not, and a ton of stuff to test with my kf2 like a billion usb keyboards, mice, storage devices, and the one I REALLY want to get working, my afterglow Xbox 360 controller for minecraft pocket edition
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Support any KF2 ROM Bluetooth Dongles ? (to use BT headset)
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Support any KF2 ROM Bluetooth Dongles ? (to use BT headset)
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IDK how thats going. I don't think anyone is working on it since the KF2 doesn't have bluetooth to begin with. When I connect my cheapo BT Dongle, it doesn't allow me to turn the switch to on. However it does see the BT Dongle and thinks its a keyboard of some sort. Which would be nice because I have a really nice BT Keyboard for Android I wanna use.
Also would be nice to use PS3 Controllers. I'm going to attempt the wireless 360 controller with the adapter one of these days, whenever I can focus some cash in that direction. I really want a wireless 360 controller on my KF2 so I can play some of the higher end games as well as the older Emulated games. Just think its too cool
So I bought this Archos 80 G9 refurb'd and I opend the tablet only to find out the cable wasn't screwed in. I screwed it in, but now I get no power to the port, or at least it seems. I've been trying to get my wired 360 controller to work (before I screwed it in, it would give brief power then stop giving it) it doesn't give any now.
First image is how the cable was, second is of me typing dmesg | tail to see if the controller is being connected before I screwed the cable in. Now the controller never lights up and dmesg | tail returns nothing about the port .
I'm running PA 3+ 4.2.2 btw
Any ideas?
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EDIT: After a reboot, it lit up for a few again, but not working.... Again.
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Just tried a USB stick (microSD adapter) with 4gb in it, still nothing
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I have gotten that same message with a few of my USB items. I think it has something to do with the archos not being compatible with older usb devices? If you have a USB hub try plugging that into the archos and your controller into the hub.
Djirin said:
I have gotten that same message with a few of my USB items. I think it has something to do with the archos not being compatible with older usb devices? If you have a USB hub try plugging that into the archos and your controller into the hub.
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No USB hub . The X360 controllers not that old though. Also, I don't get msgs related to the USB anymore since I screwed that cable back in. I would assume that cable is the ground, so i don't see how it'd make the port stop working, totally at a loss . I use my friends compute for flashing stuff, hopefully tomorrow i can flash an official firmware and test again.
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Bump, anyone else with suggestions or an idea on the cable inside?
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MDMonster said:
Bump, anyone else with suggestions or an idea on the cable inside?
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This is a known problem with the G9 series. Since the USB port slides out, it's connected to the main board with the flexible ribbon cable. This ribbon cable can develop tiny cracks in the connections very fast. This is what probably happened to your G9.
Try searching the forum, because there is a proposed permanent solution explained with pictures. You would need to find a suitable ribbon cable from an optical drive and alter it slightly to replace the original cable. Also, fixing the position of the full USB port so it does not move out also helps.
Just to make sure: You did this after booting?
Code:
echo "1" >/sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/state
neur0mans3r said:
This is a known problem with the G9 series. Since the USB port slides out, it's connected to the main board with the flexible ribbon cable. This ribbon cable can develop tiny cracks in the connections very fast. This is what probably happened to your G9.
Try searching the forum, because there is a proposed permanent solution explained with pictures. You would need to find a suitable ribbon cable from an optical drive and alter it slightly to replace the original cable. Also, fixing the position of the full USB port so it does not move out also helps.
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Well I didn't see any form of cracking on the cable when I opened the bugger up
I'll double check though in a few. I'm restoring apps atm, Just got back onto ICS.
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Just to make sure: You did this after booting?
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echo "1" >/sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/state
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Yes, everytime I wanted to test it after a reboot
MDMonster said:
I've been trying to get my wired 360 controller to work (before I screwed it in, it would give brief power then stop giving it) it doesn't give any now.
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It is my understanding that the Xbox 360 controller only works with a USB Host (or OTG) cable connected to the microUSB connector. It does not work with the full size USB port on the back (or at least it never has on any of my G9 tablets when I tried connecting it that port).
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So I bought this Archos 80 G9 refurb'd and...
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The picture you posted does not even look right for the inside of an Archos 80 G9 to me. Or, at least not like any other pictures I've seen of inside of one. The speaker should be further over, not right next to the USB connections.
But, then again, Archos has changed how the G9 models were built several times. Maybe you got a really old one?
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It is my understanding that the Xbox 360 controller only works with a USB Host (or OTG) cable connected to the microUSB connector. It does not work with the full size USB port on the back (or at least it never has on any of my G9 tablets when I tried connecting it that port).
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The picture you posted does not even look right for the inside of an Archos 80 G9 to me. Or, at least not like any other pictures I've seen of inside of one. The speaker should be further over, not right next to the USB connections.
But, then again, Archos has changed how the G9 models were built several times. Maybe you got a really old one?
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That's possible
I tested the port with my phone, plugged it into the port and it does work fine, but that's all I've gotten to work, storage devices. Are those all that work other than the obvious 3g sticks? Also, I found out an android device needs the ffmes.ko or whatever and xpad.ko for an X360 controller to work... I looked, but never found them on this device, maybe that's why it doesn't work on that port, just guessing
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Mine seems to be fine.
I've used it with an Apple mini Keyboard. It works directly plugged into the full size port (with a slight angle and some stress on the connector), and it works with a micro-USB OTG adapter cable in the micro USB port, too.
100% plug and play in both cases. (I did turn on 3G in settings)
If my flex cable cracks, or if I open the case again for any reason, here is what I intend to do:
1. Cut a rectangular hole in the outside edge of the slide cover. Remove material as needed.
2. Remove the full size USB socket, or obtain another full-size USB connector, and epoxy it into the slide cover.
3. Point-to-point wire 4 wires (I guess I need a shield, too) from the motherboard to the connector in the slide cover.
4. Super-glue the side cover in place.
The left edge of my 80 G9 will then have all of the connectors at the edge, like it should have in the first place.
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Mine seems to be fine.
I've used it with an Apple mini Keyboard. It works directly plugged into the full size port (with a slight angle and some stress on the connector), and it works with a micro-USB OTG adapter cable in the micro USB port, too.
100% plug and play in both cases. (I did turn on 3G in settings)
If my flex cable cracks, or if I open the case again for any reason, here is what I intend to do:
1. Cut a rectangular hole in the outside edge of the slide cover. Remove material as needed.
2. Remove the full size USB socket, or obtain another full-size USB connector, and epoxy it into the slide cover.
3. Point-to-point wire 4 wires (I guess I need a shield, too) from the motherboard to the connector in the slide cover.
4. Super-glue the side cover in place.
The left edge of my 80 G9 will then have all of the connectors at the edge, like it should have in the first place.
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Well like I said in the last post, it is working, but the one thing I wanna use, the 360 controller, isn't working. I did some looking and there is a driver needed, the xpad/ffmess or whatever. Those from what I read are needed, I did some looking on my tablet and didn't find either
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I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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Hi, I have also bought one OTG recently. I am on MoKee ROM. I just plugged my pen drive to OTG cable, and otg cable to my phone. It just worked! it detected USB as external storage ( SD card ). Nothing else I did!
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I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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I just plug in its auto detect .If yrs dont detect then its either yr cable faulty or yr rom could have messed up yr phone or the device you are connecting to cannot detect yr phone .There is no special sofware /application to use otg .
I agree w/ post #3. Your phone should read it automatically. I plug mine in and can pick it up immediately with the Root Explorer app.
Use debugging in developer options?
well my 3rd otg cable doesnt work so it must be my rom. anyone else using pacman rom with otg cable working?
otg inop
I had same issue bought a cable couldn't get it to recognize any usb device I bought usbfm app on playstorw and just started trying different things , it turned out to be me and not cable I used it on various 4.2,4.3 and 4.4 roms key is to be in right usbdrive directory mine was usbdriveA
As I said in my earlier post, I was able to locate the flash drive connected to my USB OTG with Root Explorer. It will be listed under storage.
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I''ve gone through two otg cables and I'm sure none of them are broken. Is there a certain configuration/app for I need to use it? Really wana store my anime into a usb to watch for later when I'm on the bus or something where wifi isnt available?
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If you want actual help, then you need to always provide sufficient details, such as what hardware you are trying to plug into the OTG . Any ROM should work, most likely you either are trying to use a device that draws too much power or your have a cable that's not Samsung compatible.
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If you want actual help, then you need to always provide sufficient details, such as what hardware you are trying to plug into the OTG . Any ROM should work, most likely you either are trying to use a device that draws too much power or your have a cable that's not Samsung compatible.
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I am trying to put a 64gb strontium usb into my s3. I dont think it is the cable since I ordered one online that was meant for an s3. I see youtube videos of people using otg cables that get notifications that its connected even if theres nothing plugged into the otg cable. However I dont get any notifications or message with/without a usb device connected to the otg cable. I'll see if I can test the cable on my friends phone some later time to make sure if its the cable's fault. The main problem I have is whether I'm SUPPOSE to get a notifcation or not since people who posted in this thread are giving me mixed answers, some do get the notification, some do not. I'm just wondering if I'm the former or the latter or even if its just broken for sure.
I don;t think you get any notification unless a USB device is attached, I will check that tomorrow with my S3. Additionally, I don;t think the S3 can supply enough power for a USB device of more than 32 GB the power to the USB port is very limited on phones, about 100 ma vs. 500 ma for a standard PC USB port. You can check whats going on by looking at a LOGCAT on terminal if you are using a rooted ROM. This article / video may also be helpful.
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html?m=1
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I don;t think you get any notification unless a USB device is attached, I will check that tomorrow with my S3. Additionally, I don;t think the S3 can supply enough power for a USB device of more than 32 GB the power to the USB port is very limited on phones, about 100 ma vs. 500 ma for a standard PC USB port. You can check whats going on by looking at a LOGCAT on terminal if you are using a rooted ROM. This article / video may also be helpful.
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html?m=1
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okay some good and bad news.
Good news is tested out my wireless mouse and it works. Bad news is when I try to use my 64gb stick I get a folder in storage called usbdisk0 but its empty? Anything to fix this? Using es file manager.
Make sure your device is formatted either FAT32 or exFAT
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Make sure your device is formatted either FAT32 or exFAT
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GOOD news, tested out my 8gb usb and it worked. Kinda depressed my 64gb usb doesnt work though. Anyone have any tips to make this 64 usb work. I'm fine with the 8gb but it would be awesome to make the 64gb card work. it is formatted as fat32. I dont think my phone can supply enough power since my 64 gb usb doesnt even light up when plugged in.
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GOOD news, tested out my 8gb usb and it worked. Kinda depressed my 64gb usb doesnt work though. Anyone have any tips to make this 64 usb work. I'm fine with the 8gb but it would be awesome to make the 64gb card work. it is formatted as fat32. I dont think my phone can supply enough power since my 64 gb usb doesnt even light up when plugged in.
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Get one of these and use the external power for any devices that the S3 cannot power on its own.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GD8AWKG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
DigitalMD said:
Get one of these and use the external power for any devices that the S3 cannot power on its own.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GD8AWKG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So, its a poweerd usb hub + card reader basically? This looks awesome but do I need to like plug it in the wall or will it work portably?
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So, its a poweerd usb hub + card reader basically? This looks awesome but do I need to like plug it in the wall or will it work portably?
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NO, you only have to attach outside power for devices the S3 cannot power , like a hard drive. and the aux power can be your USB charger
For the comments made about a USB OTG not having enough power to run some devices. They make USB OTG cables which can do this due to an extra extension which allows for a power source to be used. The cable I have has a male and female plug. All I do is plug in the device which needs a little extra power to the USB port, attach the male cable to my phone, and plug a power cable, like the one that came with my phone, into the female plug. It allows me to run my older WD ext HD which need its own power source. Here are a few pics I took of my USB OTG cable. It works great and didn't cost an arm and a leg either.
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The beneifit of this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is that it accommodates various card sizes plus has 3 USB ports, all work at the same time.
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The beneifit of this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is that it accommodates various card sizes plus has 3 USB ports, all work at the same time.
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Hi I just recently purchased the Samsung galaxy tab s 8.4. What I am wondering is how can I connect a full size usb flash drive? Can I buy any old cheap usb to micro usb adapter and it should work? Or do I need some sort of special type.
I was also wondering how I can get video out onto a TV through the HDMI port. Will any micro HDMI to full HDMI work? Or do I need a specific special type.
Thanks in advance for any help or input related to this.
Buy a media dock to use both mhl and otg simultaneously or an otg adapter for flash drives and a Samsung specific mhl/HDMI cable for video out.
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I've been using one like this...
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Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5
All working with HDMI out ... card reader ... USB to 1 Terabyte Hard drive ... USB to Sony DualShock gamepad ... USB Mouse ... USB keyboard ... (and various combinations of these components plugged in and working simultaneously)
siralsmooth said:
Buy a media dock to use both mhl and otg simultaneously or an otg adapter for flash drives and a Samsung specific mhl/HDMI cable for video out.
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Im sorry but i don't exactly know what your talking about when you say media dock.
Can I buy any micro USB to HDMI adapter and a micro USB to USB adapter Or do I need specific cables straight from samsung? Theres several of these cables being sold at my local NCIX computer store. This forum will not allow me to post the links however.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
I've been using one like this...
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5
All working with HDMI out ... card reader ... USB to 1 Terabyte Hard drive ... USB to Sony DualShock gamepad ... USB Mouse ... USB keyboard ... (and various combinations of these components plugged in and working simultaneously)
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Thats exactly what im looking for. How much does that run? Do you have a link for it?
xmilar said:
Thats exactly what im looking for. How much does that run? Do you have a link for it?
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Got mine off eBay....
eBay LINK ... MHL OTG Hub
Link to full eBay search... (choices bro)
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I also use one like this at work... (don't need MHL there)
eBay link ... OTG Hub
It has 3 USB ports and several different card readers... I can run that with a 1 Terabyte Hard drive, 256GB Flash Drive , 128GB micro SD card , wireless keyboard and mouse... all running off that hub simultaneously.... all working as they should.
Pro Tip... Always use the MHL/OTG Power input when running powered devices... DON'T try to power from your tablet...
The first item I listed in this post (MHL OTG Hub) has a micro USB port... plug your Samsung charger in there before plugging in any other devices and before plugging into your tablet
The second item has its own dedicated power cord supplied with the device which can also be plugged into your Sammy charger to run the power side of the hub...
Failure to do this can burn out the 5 volt rail on your tablet... you will also notice all sorts of problems with devices not being recognized by the tablet when external power is not plugged into the proper port on the hub.
Many of these "hubs" come from China with sketchy instructions... they try but it gets lost in translation I suppose.
Here's what I learned over time...
when using a hard drive or wireless keyboard with a hub
plug in your external power to the hub first
then plug in your hard drive or wireless keyboard/mouse dongle
then plug the hub into the tablet
If you do things in the wrong order the tablet doesn't recognize the drive or device
Those steps are not necessary for memory cards and flash drives.
b00mb00mchuck said:
Got mine off eBay....
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This post helped me a lot man I really appreciate it. I have been driving myself crazy trying to figure out what to buy what works etc. I just dont know which ones will work for the tab S considering it doesnt specifically say the Tab S is supported..
All im really looking to do is stream videos to my tv when I travel and connect a standard size usb flash drive. Thanks again ill probably just order that 1st one you linked me to because you say it works fine.
On a side note it kinda sucks how I cant even quote your post and reply without getting this message
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Glad to help
That quote thing will go away soon enough... XDA's way of discouraging crap posters from constantly bombing the forum
(Cool story)
Brought my Note 3 to a work function in Honolulu... used that MHL OTG Hub to attach to the flat screen in the conference room and show some pics and videos and web pages for a Heavy Lift Crane presentation... meeting broke up and groups went to other promo areas... some of the geeks mulled around looking at what i had set up and saw me answering emails and posting on a couple forums... then on break i started playing Grand Theft Auto with the Playstation 3 controller... that started a bunch of questions ... i answered what i could ... one dude says ... "damn... i wanna punch my iPhone right in the friggin face right now"
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b00mb00mchuck said:
Glad to help
That quote thing will go away soon enough... XDA's way of discouraging crap posters from constantly bombing the forum
(Cool story)
Brought my Note 3 to a work function in Honolulu... used that MHL OTG Hub to attach to the flat screen in the conference room and show some pics and videos and web pages for a Heavy Lift Crane presentation... meeting broke up and groups went to other promo areas... some of the geeks mulled around looking at what i had set up and saw me answering emails and posting on a couple forums... then on break i started playing Grand Theft Auto with the Playstation 3 controller... that started a bunch of questions ... i answered what i could ... one dude says ... "damn... i wanna punch my iPhone right in the friggin face right now"
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Thats awesome its definitely a handy cord to have.
I was wondering if you know should pretty much any mhl otg hub work with the Tab S? There is several listed on eBay with various prices. Are all of them made equal? or is it possible that certain ones wont work. Ill probably just order the one you linked because you have confirmed it does in fact work with the Tab S even though its not listed as a compatible device.
xmilar said:
Thats awesome its definitely a handy cord to have.
I was wondering if you know should pretty much any mhl otg hub work with the Tab S? There is several listed on eBay with various prices. Are all of them made equal? or is it possible that certain ones wont work. Ill probably just order the one you linked because you have confirmed it does in fact work with the Tab S even though its not listed as a compatible device.
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Works... i used it just a couple hours ago to dump movie downloads onto my hard drive and clear up memory...
But now that you mention it... i haven't tried the MHL function to HDMI with the Tab S yet because i have chromecast now and I'll mostly stream from the hard drive right through to the chromecast.... i can test that tomorrow if you want a rock solid answer before you buy... i have a half day on the crane tomorrow so it would be after 12:00pm EST when i get home and try plugging it all in.
Any of the newer Samsung devices from the s2/note2 and up should have the dual functionality USB port. You can, with a good eye, and good lighting, look at the port and see the 2nd row of pins. If it has/supports mhl out, it will do simultaneous otg as well. This is exclusive to Samsung devices.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
Works... i used it just a couple hours ago to dump movie downloads onto my hard drive and clear up memory...
But now that you mention it... i haven't tried the MHL function to HDMI with the Tab S yet because i have chromecast now and I'll mostly stream from the hard drive right through to the chromecast.... i can test that tomorrow if you want a rock solid answer before you buy... i have a half day on the crane tomorrow so it would be after 12:00pm EST when i get home and try plugging it all in.
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Ya that would be great if you could thanks a lot i really appreciate it.
xmilar said:
Ya that would be great if you could thanks a lot i really appreciate it.
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There ya go bro... hooked up with MHL Hub to HDMI showing screen mirror of this thread... everything works like it should.
b00mb00mchuck said:
There ya go bro... hooked up with MHL Hub to HDMI showing screen mirror of this thread... everything works like it should.
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Looks good man thanks a lot for that. Theres a few other ones on Amazon for cheaper that might work but I think ill just stick with this one even though ill pay a few extra bucks.:good:
b00mb00mchuck said:
There ya go bro... hooked up with MHL Hub to HDMI showing screen mirror of this thread... everything works like it should.
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Hey man I just received my adapter in the mail today but the HDMI out is not working do you have any mtips on how to get it to work? I connect my power source first and then connect my HDMI but still nothing works. I bought the one you mentioned but its a bit different from what you have pictured. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Ok I finally got it working. I had to connect my device to it first before the power source or it wouldn't work. I know you mentioned this can be hard on the battery but its the only way I got it working.
I connect my power source after the HDMI out is up and running but my battery seems to still be draining fairly quick. Does that mean the outside power source is doing nothing? Am I doing harm to my tablets battery?
hello, im thinking about buy one of these, my question is, does that white cable charge the device?
cause i want to charge the device while using this function, can anyone confirm this, and in case it doesnt charge, can we mod it to do it