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What accesssories are you ordering with your Nexus?

I'm planning on ordering from Expansys and getting at least the MHL adapter (would the Expansys one work as well as the official Samsung one?), a car kit, and maybe this sleek looking case once it's in stock.

I would get the HTC MHL adapter. It looks much better and the ports are arranged more logically.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
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I'll be getting (when in stock) an extra battery
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery.html
and another charger for it
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery-charger.html

I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.

mskip said:
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
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Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable

gabster21 said:
Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
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Paul at Modaco has made a custom kernel to support usb drives *HERE*. I havent tested that function yet though so I cant confirm it works.
Mark.

I just picked up a MilitaryShield screen protector and carbon fiber skin from amazon. I thought for $15 I couldn't go wrong.
telepathically sent with my Galaxy Nexus which is being imprisoned by FedEx

i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?

i already bought the screen protector and mhl. will be buying a soft holster pouch if my droid x one doesnt fit in and probably some sort of case. maybe the one with the kickstand. and a battery

just bought a black leather fitbag case for it, also looking at buying a battery pack for it to charge on the go

Iv ordered a cheap ebay case, the leather flip one for when im out, £5 cant go wrong....

I want to be able to connect my Nexus to my Tv and watch videos and also play emulated games using controllers, so I'm getting the MHL Adapter and HDMI Cable. Free shipping on amazon? don't mind if I do.

idan_mo said:
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
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For what you're using it for, the 2nd one won't work, unless you plug the mhl cable directly into the phone (the port should be open since it's in landscape). Everyone needs to keep in mind that the 2nd one only charges it. It WILL NOT connect to a computer for file transfer, nor will it support mhl/HDMI out.
In terms of ease of use and function, I prefer the 2nd one though, because (going off how the nexus one worked) you can just drop the phone in/take it out one handed easily; no need to line the port up. This actually works better than the n1, since it would always fall over if you weren't careful (since it was oriented in portrait mode). In addition, the phone should automatically connect to the dock through bluetooth, which I loved on the N1.
Hope this helps your decision. Oh, and I'm definitely getting the official Samsung landscape dock

so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?

idan_mo said:
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
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For the official portrait dock, you may or may not be able to connect everything to the back of the dock. It depends on if Samsung is foolish or not.
For the official landscape dock (with the pins) the back can ONLY be used for charging the phone. The controller and HDMI out would have to be placed in the port of the phone itself, assuming that it actually shows while sitting in the dock (I don't know if it even does). The whole point of this dock is to be a stylish desk clock/charger, and nothing else. (Again, going off of the nexus one dock. There's an extremely slight possibility that they've improved the pin connector tech, but as far as I know, it wouldn't be enough to port full video through)
So for your uses, get the portrait dock. It connects to the phone via usb, and while it may not be as fancy as the landscape one, it'll almost definitely be more useful to you.

thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?

idan_mo said:
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.

tsunami1609 said:
Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Actually, it's either MHL or USB. They use the same pins, so you can never get USB and MHL to work at the same time.
If you want HDMI output and controller input at the same time, Bluetooth is the only way to go.

mskip said:
I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive.
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Make sure it's a USB-OTG cable and not a simple adapter. That one doesn't say that it's OTG. May still be though.

tsunami1609 said:
Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
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Has anyone tried the Sixaxis tool from the market on the SGS and confirm it works?
Also, I bought this USB micro to female adapter from Expansys: http://www.expansys.ae/expansys-micro-usb-male-to-usb-female-adapter-223101/
How do I find out if it's OTG or not?

Xperia S USB OTG

I have been trying to use some flash drives as external storage however I ran into some trouble.
1. First of all without rooting and getting a kernel or something (which I cannot do as my phone is sim and bootloader locked to o2 right now) it can only read FAT32 formatted drives rather than NTFS.
This means I have to either split >4gb files into two smaller pieces or re-encode. I don't like re-encoding because of the great hdmi output so why not carry full blu-ray rips
2. Does anybody know the power output of the USB port in the Xperia S? Is it something like 100ma or less? As you can see from my photos below here are my tests,
Sony 16gb Micro Vault Click USM-L (pink)...........works fine.
Sony 16gb Micro Vault Click USM-P (black)...........works fine.
Verbatim Stor N Go 32GB Micro USB (tiny one)..........USB Power Consumption Error
I don't like the fact that it is hit and miss when choosing drives and don't always want to carry around a powered USB hub or a Sony Ericsson Livedock instead of the tiny drives and the lightweight micro usb->female usb cable.
Its meant to be "USB On-the-go" not "USB can't go because my arms are tired and bag is full"
There is NO information on either Sony's nor Verbatim's website regarding the power consumption of their flash drives.
Any suggestion's?
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did you try to conncet wireless keyboard ?
did you buy any in particular ?
i have already order this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320739400862&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:1123
i hope will work. will it?

hi i also bought a cheapy one from ebay and its perfectly fine
yes usb keyboard and mouse works fine, tried logitech k800 with unifying receiver and also tried microsoft keyboard and mouse desktop combo with big ass usb receiver. i have not tried bluetooth yet but that would be preferable to me because it will take one less port.
i would also like to hear about the livedock or if anyone has made a a simple y cable with "micro usb male" (to go into phone) split into "female usb" (for usb device) and "female microusb" (for charging input).
In fact why not go the whole kaboodle
A. Keyboard & Mouse & Headset & Phonejoy controller & Smartwatch : simultaneous Bluetooth
B. Flash Drive or USB Hub with multiple drives: Micro USB to USB adapter
C. TVOUT : HDMI
D. Charging : Female Micro USB input from same spliiter cable as B
now its a full desktop, NES, SNES, whatever all controlled by any of the above and the damn thing is the size of your hand

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Basically does something like this exist?
This cable should in theory have the same functionality of the bulky livedock?

I was thinkink about same thing: y cable, so we were able to access flash drive (memory card) along with charging the phone. But i think it is not possible with JUST a cable. I think it is possible with live dock, but live dock probably got some sort of electronic curcuit board which controls flash drive and charging at the same time. Unless you would buy live dock for other phone (P in example), take curcuit board out and do DIY.
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That all sounds really cool to experiment with, but thats alot of gear to cart around... wouldn't it be easier just to buy say a PSP(homebrew) or perhaps a PSvita? Emulation is wasted on a touch screen.
The kernel mods in the dev section have already enabled ntfs fs reading amongst other things, you could flash these right now or the first roms will probably have this soon which should help you out quite a bit.
I bought the livedock for the XPS hoping it would work for usb charging via computer, it does not; a Y cable is a good idea tho... unfortunately the dock just does not suit the XPS at all, does not sit correctly, u have to lean the dock usb connector on the ground for the whole setup to be "somewhat" stable and just looks silly, not to mention unsafe.
Those clove youtube vids area bit of a con imo.
-smc

Does anybody know where we can buy the original Sony Ericsson USB OTG? Also, does anyone know the part number? I do not want to use any other brands. Hope someone could help

Any reason why? You can buy it of ebay for just a couple of pounds and is working fine.

I connected Logitech RumblePad to my xperia S (Using some samsung USB adapter)- including vibrations, so i think power output is pretty ok.

somemadcaaant said:
That all sounds really cool to experiment with, but thats alot of gear to cart around... wouldn't it be easier just to buy say a PSP(homebrew) or perhaps a PSvita? Emulation is wasted on a touch screen.
The kernel mods in the dev section have already enabled ntfs fs reading amongst other things, you could flash these right now or the first roms will probably have this soon which should help you out quite a bit.
I bought the livedock for the XPS hoping it would work for usb charging via computer, it does not; a Y cable is a good idea tho... unfortunately the dock just does not suit the XPS at all, does not sit correctly, u have to lean the dock usb connector on the ground for the whole setup to be "somewhat" stable and just looks silly, not to mention unsafe.
Those clove youtube vids area bit of a con imo.
-smc
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hi it wouldn't be too much to carry around, consider having a phone and a vita and a laptop? at what cost. you'll still always need at least 2 devices, you phone and another. now you can have all three from one nice looking device and can take each accessory when required. ie all three to a hotel, just the keyboard for working on, just the gamepad when you feel like it. check out the freedom pro keyboard (better than a laptop's) or the phonejoy for a full vita beating experience (comfort wise - wireless on big screen anywhere)
and minimising what we need to carry is the whole point of finding if such a y cable works because then we don't have the added bulk of the Livedock...
thanks for your review of the livedock, even more reason to want that cable! I cant believe there is no grip, i wouldn't have been able to assume that from the Clove videos. its a bit silly that the Xperia P has the new smartdock but because they put our ports on opposite sides we can't use it
i noticed the devs have a kernel for ntfs compatibility but i cant use it as i havent even received my sim unlock code from my network let alone finding out if my locked bootloader can be unlocked after this. plus ive just discovered how bad the yellow tint issue is on my phone, so its a bit of a wait for me!

ergo14 said:
I connected Logitech RumblePad to my xperia S (Using some samsung USB adapter)- including vibrations, so i think power output is pretty ok.
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yeah but i don't think the wireless receiver for the rumblepad takes up as much power as constant reading from and powering a flash drive would. the wireless receiver doesn't need much compared to that and the controller itself has its own battery
nevertheless you could be right in suggesting that the power output is ok as it powers some but not all drives, so if its not power output then there is some other reason for the compatibility issue with each usb device... so we should do a list of what drives work and which dont

Hi
just want to know if this will work with the Xperia S
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310371255484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I asked the seller but he says its only compatiable with nokia as it a nokia branded cable but surle all these cable are the same as any generic ones as they use the same connections?

ash_c64 said:
Hi
just want to know if this will work with the Xperia S
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310371255484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I asked the seller but he says its only compatiable with nokia as it a nokia branded cable but surle all these cable are the same as any generic ones as they use the same connections?
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it looks like this cable will work perfectly fine, just branded and looks pretty nice actually. however id be weary of choosing this when there are right angled micro usbs on some adapters...these are more practical in my opinion after having used my similarly priced generic ebay otg cable and also the standard charger cable that comes with the phone
i bought this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290680019...id=m570.l2736&_nkw=290680019654&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
but if you want your one, here it is for 30p cheaper
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-N..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item4601d26b4b

willusdun said:
yeah but i don't think the wireless receiver for the rumblepad takes up as much power as constant reading from and powering a flash drive would. the wireless receiver doesn't need much compared to that and the controller itself has its own battery
nevertheless you could be right in suggesting that the power output is ok as it powers some but not all drives, so if its not power output then there is some other reason for the compatibility issue with each usb device... so we should do a list of what drives work and which dont
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I'ts normal usb connected pad I'ts NOT wireless at any rate

ergo14 said:
I'ts normal usb connected pad I'ts NOT wireless at any rate
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wow confirms the plenty of power theory then, does it rumble and everything all powered by the phone?

Understood.
Yeah i'm a huge fan of mobile docks, they screwed us over regarding that i reckon, bad bad port locations...
Sorry to hear about your yellow tint issue, what a pain in the arse, reminds me like some kind of sun damage i've seen on other devices before left on the car dash for an hr.
-smc

willusdun said:
wow confirms the plenty of power theory then, does it rumble and everything all powered by the phone?
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Yes it does, i had to connect it 2 times, at first phone said it takes too much power, but on 2nd time, it worked fine, and yes it did rumble when i pressed vibration button on it ;-)

willusdun said:
it looks like this cable will work perfectly fine, just branded and looks pretty nice actually. however id be weary of choosing this when there are right angled micro usbs on some adapters...these are more practical in my opinion after having used my similarly priced generic ebay otg cable and also the standard charger cable that comes with the phone
i bought this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290680019...id=m570.l2736&_nkw=290680019654&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
but if you want your one, here it is for 30p cheaper
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-N..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item4601d26b4b
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I know the right angled ones will be better, but i just love the build quilty of the Nokia one so will probably give it a try.

To anyone interested in OTG cables:
Guys, the Nokia OTG cable works just fine and is VERY good quality and very common anywhere (quite cheap as well).
Tested by me. Already connected my 16GB Ultra Speed Transcend USB drive and works fine.

I've been using OTG since day 1 when i got the unit - like the OP says, the power consumption of the USB port for devices are hit-and-miss.
Some usb drives works great, some consumes too much power and cannot be powered on; so far, my wireless keyboard+touchpad set (rapoo) works great.

Motorola Atrix Lapdock and Galaxy S III

Has anyone connected their Galaxy S III up to a Motorola Atrix Lapdock?

If I remember well, the Motorola lapdock uses a HDMI plug to connect with the Atrix.
GS3 doesn't have one, you should get a MHL/HDMI convertor. Don't know if it'll work as a native HDMI plug will do.
If someone have both, it could be intereting to see if that work

So I'm going to dust this thread off a bit because this is the project I'm looking to work on -
I've ordered an Atrix Lapdock for my Bionic (very simple mod to dock the bionic) but as my personal phone is an S3, I'd like to use the lapdock with it primarily while still having the option to dock the bionic while on the go (I carry both phones). (While I'm at it, I'll probably look to get an hdmi micro extension cable and usb-micro-male to usb-A-male extension and try and use the lapdock as the base station for the Samsung Slate 7 PC i barely use since the interface is so poor)
Here's what I've gathered by reading various threads.
Lapdock:
The Lapdock will work with any HDMI source as seen in other threads (ie connecting to a PS3 via hdmi female micro to hdmi male standard adapter, $4 part from dealextreme). Others have posted how they can use the lapdock as a self powered hdmi external monitor with their laptop (very cool usage btw considering it's size)
Droid Bionic:
easily docks to the Atrix version of the lapdock by simply rotating the hdmi/micro usb connectors 180degrees in their sockets since they're piped in with short cables.
Galaxy SIII / S3 (mine is the T999):
here's where it gets tricky.
As I've gathered about the 11pin micro usb port (on the S3 and shared by the Note 2):
the original 5 pin MHL standard was ditched in favor of the 11pin MHL type connection. this in theory would allow the use of hdmi output with simultaneous usb otg and charging capabilities.
reviewing this thread here: (showthread.php?t=1953061&page=2) one can see that an OTG cable was modded with a simple resistor to allow for charging - member triff (the OP) was able to get this going and noted the log he got when the cable was plugged in reported 'hdmi fail' which leans to failing to initiate an hdmi connection... later in the thread member MRBR7 alludes to having an hdd running to view while charging on the OTG cable - his post is a bit vague as to whether he did the mod on an OTG cable or an HDMI cable.... i'll have to follow up.
finally, the posts in this thread (first 12 pages are a quick read showthread.php?t=1741583&page=12) provide resistor values and some close ups of the boards for the 11 to 5 pin adapter as well as what I thought was a list of pins for the 5 pin MHL.
I'm really trying to be purposefully clear in this thread as to my findings because it seems there are too many vague threads out there regarding the functionality; simply missing a letter or punctuation in a thread can turn a sure thing into a vague post...
another avenue is the official samsung galaxy note 2 "smart dock" which has 3 usb ports, in additon to an hdmi output and charging input - since this is sold out in the US (and due to PAL vs NTSC Standard I am hesitant to order from germany) it'll be a while before I can personally buy and test one (unless i can find one locally somehow). this seems like the best bet for a dock which can be hacked or adapted to interface the s3 with the lapdock.
my ideal final outcome of this thread would be to have a small cable or interface box which i can plug into the s3 to enable hdmi output + usb otg + charging. that trifecta would connect via a single micro-usb to the device (11 pin) and have an output of a female usb (A or micro, either can be adapted) and either a male or female standard hdmi (again, both of which can be adapted). this cable could enable the phone to be used as an impromptu desktop, carputer, lapdock brain etc...

Lapdock software required...
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deedscreen said:
Lapdock software required...
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What do you mean by that?
The Atrix Lapdock is internally nothing but an 1366x768 HDMI LCD monitor with (rather poor) speakers and an USB-Hub on which a keyboard/touchpad and two free USB-ports are connected to. The monitor and the USB-hub have to be simply attached to any device which supports HDMI-output and USB-OTG via (slightly uncommon) HDMI- and USB-OTG-plugs.
There is no software running on the Lapdock (it is actually completely dumb) and there is no need for any specific SW on the connected device (might be nice to have something like webtop running but it is not necessary).
The S3 works flawlessly with the keyboard/touchpad/USB-hub using a USB-OTG-Adapter and with the HDMI-monitor via an MHL/HDMI adapter cable. The tricky part is only to get both simultaneously and possibly even charge the S3 from the Lapdock. For that purpose I use as long as there is no combined MHL-HDMI/USB-OTG-adapter/dock available (as described in the thread and page already indicated above: showthread.php?t=1741583&page=12 ) the allshare cast dongle and a cheap OTG adapter. You can use office apps, watch videos, play games etc. without any problem. You can check out
ecx . images-amazon . com/images/I/712%2BAbT1u3L.png
(no links for me yet)
to see how that looks like...

a32quaeler said:
What do you mean by that?
The Atrix Lapdock is internally nothing but an 1366x768 HDMI LCD monitor with (rather poor) speakers and an USB-Hub on which a keyboard/touchpad and two free USB-ports are connected to. The monitor and the USB-hub have to be simply attached to any device which supports HDMI-output and USB-OTG via (slightly uncommon) HDMI- and USB-OTG-plugs.
There is no software running on the Lapdock (it is actually completely dumb) and there is no need for any specific SW on the connected device (might be nice to have something like webtop running but it is not necessary).
The S3 works flawlessly with the keyboard/touchpad/USB-hub using a USB-OTG-Adapter and with the HDMI-monitor via an MHL/HDMI adapter cable. The tricky part is only to get both simultaneously and possibly even charge the S3 from the Lapdock. For that purpose I use as long as there is no combined MHL-HDMI/USB-OTG-adapter/dock available (as described in the thread and page already indicated above: showthread.php?t=1741583&page=12 ) the allshare cast dongle and a cheap OTG adapter. You can use office apps, watch videos, play games etc. without any problem. You can check out
ecx . images-amazon . com/images/I/712%2BAbT1u3L.png
(no links for me yet)
to see how that looks like...
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Interesting..especially for the 89$ price tag. Long as one can deal with S3 not charging its a simple setup no ?

xManMythLegend said:
Interesting..especially for the 89$ price tag. Long as one can deal with S3 not charging its a simple setup no ?
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Well, I got the Lapdock for less than 70 Euros and I think that is really great value since it is very well build and versatile... the allshare cast dongle is a bit overpriced (currently it is about 55Euros here) for an adapter-replacement but if you need it for different use cases (I mainly have it for a small LED-beamer) it might be worth it.
You can charge the S3 from one of the USB-ports of the Lapdock using a micro-USB cable (as long as the dongle or any other device is connected to the Lapdocks HDMI-plug - that is what signals the Lapdock to power up), but you can not simultaneously use the MHL/USB-OTG then. So it is nice for watching movies from your S3 on the Lapdock-screen (btw. the sound works fine as well) while re-charging the S3 but for "office" work with kb/touchpad you have to replug the OTG-cable. Actually I'm quite impressed with the relatively low power consumption of the allshare cast connection - so that is not a real problem IMHO. There might be people out there to solder the right resistors into OTG-adapter cables to allow both...
One disadvantage is obviously that you have this "bulky" (it is actually lightweight but still bigger than a simple adapter) dongle on the Lapdock. The big advantage over a dock is that you can more or less freely move around the S3 while using this combination.

deedscreen said:
Lapdock software required...
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you obviously don't know anything about the lapdock, so please, hang around, do some searching and learn about what it is before posting vague comments that ruin the integrity of a factual thread.
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Interesting..especially for the 89$ price tag. Long as one can deal with S3 not charging its a simple setup no ?
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google 'bens outlet' (a 1saleaday company) and you can pick one up for as little as $50usd! assuming it actually ships out, but worth it for a spare monitor project at the very least... - and yes, not a hard setup at all - the first use in my mind would be just to have a full size screen on the go, however to have a cable capable of mhl/hdmi + usb otg + charging would turn the dock into a powerhouse android laptop using 4g internet etc... (it'll give the chromebook a run for it's money)
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the allshare cast dongle is a bit overpriced (currently it is about 55Euros here) for an adapter-replacement but if you need it for different use cases (I mainly have it for a small LED-beamer) it might be worth it.
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what's this LED beamer? (i'm just intrigued)
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You can charge the S3 from one of the USB-ports of the Lapdock using a micro-USB cable (as long as the dongle or any other device is connected to the Lapdocks HDMI-plug - that is what signals the Lapdock to power up), but you can not simultaneously use the MHL/USB-OTG then. So it is nice for watching movies from your S3 on the Lapdock-screen (btw. the sound works fine as well) while re-charging the S3 but for "office" work with kb/touchpad you have to replug the OTG-cable. Actually I'm quite impressed with the relatively low power consumption of the allshare cast connection - so that is not a real problem IMHO. There might be people out there to solder the right resistors into OTG-adapter cables to allow both...
One disadvantage is obviously that you have this "bulky" (it is actually lightweight but still bigger than a simple adapter) dongle on the Lapdock. The big advantage over a dock is that you can more or less freely move around the S3 while using this combination.
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all very cool - I'm thinking of ordering the allshare dongle just to try this out until the smartdock gets back in stock to hack it apart .. I'll probably order an 11pin mhl in the meantime too. I have a 5pin mhl, not sure what I can do with it without the adapter (i'll probably bundle it with my galaxy nexus and sell it all)
@a32: on a side note, i broke down and bought a Note 2 yesterday haha, so I'll probably be continuing this project with the Note2, (tmo just happened to have some in stock haha) I'm putting my week old S3 up for sale soon, but this project is still on my radar!

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The S3 would need the lapdock .apk for certain functionality... calm down, I've owned enough Motorola Android devices to know what I'm saying...
Thats all... Ben's Outlet would be good plus All4Cellular sells it with the extenders...
Its out of stock now but you can get the extenders separately at a hefty price:
www.all4cellular.com/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
The hefty priced cables are below, but it is worth the cost:
www.all4cellular.com/motorola-atrix-4g-upgrade-kit.html

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The S3 would need the lapdock .apk for certain functionality... calm down, I've owned enough Motorola Android devices to know what I'm saying...
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Sorry to snap, but if you've been on enough forums, you begin to notice that comments like yours are just add to confusion when unsubstantiated.
Any phone without a 'web top' mode or apk would obviously not work similar to the webtop mode that Motorola intended, however it'll still work, perfectly in fact, because this connection project is akin to hooking up your phone to a tv or monitor and using a usb mouse and keyboard to control it, albeit it's portable, like the padphone.
If you have any ideas as to how one could hookup both mhl/hdmi and usb/otg with charging I'm all ears (the real breakthrough would easily be seeing a US version T999 or similar running with the Smart Dock for the Note 2
Another thought to throw out there is whether this finished product could look similar to the padphone concept: a pocket for the phone to slip into, docking connector inside, basically self contained
As for those extension cables posted, places like monoprice and dealextreme have much better prices and selection, granted I'm just going those links on my phone - i don't understand how those are considered 'adapters' when all they do is extend the port
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Silly question but why would you need software when your using it as a monitor, keyboard, mouse, usb hub & charging?

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Silly question but why would you need software when your using it as a monitor, keyboard, mouse, usb hub & charging?
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You don't.
... that's what we posted already. The webtop SW on some Motorola devices starts a specific desktop and window-manager on your phone when connecting to the lapdock. It may facilitate the use of the apps on the phone via the Lapdock (resolution/size/... of apps in windows etc.) but you do not need it to work with the S3 on the Lapdock.

awesome! im very tempted to get one but in the UK they are still expensive

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what's this LED beamer? (i'm just intrigued)
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A bit off-topic: It is an ACER C20 I own for nearly 2 years now. Like this one:
ecx . images-amazon . com/images/I/41aXbNerVoL._SL500_.jpg
It is out of stock anyway, but I could "partly" recommend it:
It has the size of a phone, a built-in battery and - most important - lots of inputs (mini HDMI (HDCP), D-Sub (24-pin Universal), Composite Video/Audio (2.5mm 4-pin mini jack), micro USB (Typ AB), micro SD Card (SDHC)) + Audio out & speaker. It plays media from internal storage/SD card but that internal media-player is crap. It is however extremely mobile and together with movie players on modern phones like the S3+cast-dongle - or any tablet with HDMI-out or a device with Composite A/V out (e.g. old Nokias) - a nice device e.g. to entertain kids on travel or showing pictures while visiting the grandparents or alike. On the other hand, it is not really bright at all (actually you have to be in a very, very dark room to use larger screen areas) and the battery lasts often only 1/2 hour (but you can charge it with 5V from USBs or use it while on the mains adapter).
It works really nice with the S3 + allshare cast dongle (that's what I bought the dongle for in the first place), has a descent image quality (848x480 pixel) and accepts up to 1080i HD over HDMI as input signal for downscaling but for the dongle the input is of course limited 720p. It does NOT work with the S3 using the cheap (chinese) USB-MHL/HDMI-adapter with the long red cables (somewhere discussed here as well) since that one provides 1080p30Hz (at least to my TV - on which it works) and the projector obviously can't sync to that.
Back to the topic: that cheap HDMI-adapter for S3 works not very well with the Atrix Lapdock; you get an image but it is vertically squeezed. Again: the Lapdock and the S3 + cast dongle go together extremely well.

That led projector sounds pretty cool, I've waffle'd on buying one various times but can't say I've had a particular need other than for the fun of it hah
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Back to the topic: that cheap HDMI-adapter for S3 works not very well with the Atrix Lapdock; you get an image but it is vertically squeezed. Again: the Lapdock and the S3 + cast dongle go together extremely well.
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So I'm guessing you've tested this, but with the hdmi cable and the screen rotation turned on, the device still shows up in portrait? Unless I'm reading that wrong and you mean it's width wise video but looks like a 4:3 video on a 16:9 widescreen?
I wonder if that behavior is present with the official adapter...
So to return to the method of the allshare dongle, does it look like image 1 as i posted?
I recall you mentioned the dongle's hdmi signal is what triggers the docks micro usb port for kb/mouse control and charging, so for clarity i drew the wiring method up.
The next two wiring diagrams are what I'd expect to do as i finalize what the connection should/could look like...
I'm always in for feedback on streamlining the connections - the simple yet two part method will be just having the official smart dock, assuming it works with the s3, powered with one usb port, hdmi to hdmi mini and usb micro to the usb port, though maybe modify the output to delete charging power from the kb/m micro usb port...
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I recall you mentioned the dongle's hdmi signal is what triggers the docks micro usb port for kb/mouse control and charging, so for clarity i drew the wiring method up.
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Sorry, don't have much time and will have a look at your drawings later... The presence(!) of a device connected to the HDMI is detected by checking for a "Ground"-connection of one of the HDMI-pins (from googling I remember it to be HDMI-DDC/CEC) - that's what powers up the Lapdock (and activates the USB-Ports). No need for an already powered device on that HDMI port. The problem is however that there are many HDMI adapters/extension cables out there which do not pass that specific wire/connection and then the Lapdock will not react when using those. There is however no need to buy these overexpensive Motorola cable sets (those prices are unbelievable!)... my adapters & cables cost in total about 9 Euros.
+5V on the OTG-USB cable from the peripheral device (=Lapdock) to the host is not "liked" by most hosts (the S3 did not really react on it but it is probably not a good idea anyhow) so I cut the 5V red wire of the micro-USB(female)-to-micro-USB(male)-cable. On the latter you need something to signal the S3 the OTG mode (pin 4 grounded to 5). I do that quite stupidly using additional USB->OTG-adapters but you would have to take care of that in your MHL/OTC combi adapter with resistors etc. anyhow.
The "chinese" Adapter is vertically squeezed. The S3 goes into the correct HDMI-out mode including the (stock) homescreen to be usable in landscape mode - that is not a problem. Probably the 1080p30Hz mode is not well understood by the Lapdock and/or the adapter does not correctly "negotiate" the right resolution-/display ratio with the display or the quality of the sync signal from the adapter is really bad. That chinese adapter is not too bad for Full-HD TV sets but unusable for anything else. I did not try the official one. The Lapdock works however well with the dongle.

This info is much appreciated. I took the dive and ordered a lapdock from bensoutlet.com for $50 to play with. The regular one is $60 - but the keyboard that adds Hebrew letters was $10 cheaper. I figure the lettering doesn't hurt anything so I'd rather save the $10.
If anybody figures out how to simplify the connections, or perhaps someday enable MHL out + USB host with this thing - please post back.
Right now - I spent an additional $6 on dealextreme.com to get a microHDMI (female) to HDMI male adapter, and a micro usb female to male adapter so I can try to use the keyboard.
The result is going to be pretty cluttered, but I figure $50 is cheap for a portable, self powered HDMI monitor that could also power stuff from it's ports.

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Your drawing No 1 is what I use (see below). No 2 is how it should be indeed (but where is the "modded cable" coming from?). While No 3 will not help you since only the presence of a shortened HDMI-CEC pin (+ opening the display a bit) will power ALL the USB-ports including U1+U2 (that activity mode of the Lapdock is indicated by a small white LED next to the touchpad) - so there is no "pre-power" available. But (again) anything that provides that ground contact on the HDMI-plug will do the trick... I actually have one 90degree HDMI-adapter (don't know how to call it in English), which does exactly that and shortens those pin(s) and simulates to the Lapdock the presence of a device (I assume that is NOT on purpose but it works with a second, identical adapter as well). Don't take me wrong you do not need that one if you conect a device (any) directly to the microHDMI-to-HDMI adapter but it is needed when you use HDMI extension cables (etc.) that do not pass all wires to the HDMI device.
I attached some pics how I wire that thing. Pic 1: the micro HDMI plug on the Lapdock is turned by me by 180deg just to make a bit more room for the microHDMI(fem)toHDMI(male)-adapter. You may directly attach the dongle to it (it is relatively stable and easy to carry around - pic 2). That's what one could call "entertainment mode" since you may want to watch videos etc. this way. But than you have not enough space for the microUSB-cable for kb/mouse. That is what I use the 90deg-adapter for. This adapter alone signals already the Lapdock to power up (no other HDMI-cable or adapter I own does this). Back to pic 1: The microUSB(fem)-to-microUSB(male)-cable has the red 5V wire cut. The microUSB-to-USB + USB-microUSB-OTG(!) adapter is there only to signal the OTG-host mode for the S3. The stuff on the right are things you may use on the free USB-port.
That strange device with the mobile speaker attached to its headphone jack has to be explained: it is a (5 Euro) "USB sound card". That is a bit odd... the Lapdock has stereo speakers which are working well (but not great) and the audio-output via HDMI(cast) to the Lapdock works perfectly (sound is ok and in sync when watching videos & you can control volume etc. from the S3 or the Lapdock keyboard) but the allshare cast SW on the S3 does not allow you to plug in a headphone or connect a bluetooth audio-device to the S3 for output of the video(!)-sound. You can use headphones for mp3-player music while using an HDMI display etc. but when you switch on a video you have to remove headphones otherwise the allshare connection stops. There might be two reasons 1: HDCP, 2: there is a small lag in video display from the wireless transfer protocol and the audio stream is equally lagged on purpose to be well in sync with the video stream. You may want to bypass that artificial restriction because the Lapdock has NO headphone jack ... and you can by using such a "soundcard" which is fully supported by the S3 but the sound is then indeed a bit "in advance" of the video stream.
Less exotic devices you can attach are external disks/pen drives or even game controllers (all of them work)... Pic 3 shows you how I wire it for "productivity mode"

P0ll0L0c0 said:
This info is much appreciated. I took the dive and ordered a lapdock from bensoutlet.com for $50 to play with.
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Thank you. 50$ ! When they are as cheap go and get some (or better get many)! The Lapdock is really, really useful and works with many devices.
I originally bought it for the Raspberry Pi but I use it as well with an Archos A80G9 android tablet (not so often since the tablet is big enough anyhow) which has seperated (mini)HDMI and USB-OTG connectors (as it should have been done for all mobile devices including the S3) and used it for my "old" Nokia N8 (miniHDMI as well). In that case USB-OTG does not work since the N8 does not support USB hubs but you can chrge it and watch movies on the Lapdock display with it (in the train ...). The RasPi is powered via the same cable that is used for kb/mouse. In that cable I did obviously not cut the 5V wire. The power the Lapdock provides this way is sufficient to operate the RasPi (+ wifi dongle) ... about 1A is needed for that. So it should be possible to use that power via that OTG microUSB port for the S3 as well ...

What abot the EDD-S20E dock won´t that work with the lapdock ???
Problem is the dock is useless for my next device in 2 - 3 Years....
The allshare cast dongle might stay usefull even with the next gen of android phones....

Note 10.1 2014 OTG & Charging

I've got a Note 10.1 2014 mounted in the dash of my truck to replace the radio and am on a mission to figure out how to get USB OTG to work with charging. I've read an ocean of threads regarding hacking MHL adapters, but there is not any information specific to the Note 10.1 2014.
Right now I've got a relay system in the dash that switches between a OTG cable and a charge cable depending if the ignition is on or off. This works for my basic purposes, but if I use GPS navigation and wifi tethering, I run the battery pretty low after only 3-4 hours. When I turn off the truck it begins charging, but that wont work for a road trip.
I've tried the Samsung smart dock (without reading that it wouldn't work), and of course, it doesn't work, although it would be the perfect solution.
My idea is that there would be some way to use the 11 pin MHL connector on the device to get what I'm after. Looking at the pinout, it seems that there are some USB host pins within the 6 additional MHL pins, but I do not know of anyone who has tapped into them and had OTG working.
Is anyone else trying to get this to work on a Note 10.1 2014? I'm happy to hack up and solder anything and everything imaginable to give it a try, but I'd like to collaborate about it and see if we as a group can get this working.

Im about ready to rip apart my smartdock and see exactly why it wont work with this tablet.... have no idea why it qont recognise the tablet...

morgancole said:
I've got a Note 10.1 2014 mounted in the dash of my truck to replace the radio and am on a mission to figure out how to get USB OTG to work with charging. I've read an ocean of threads regarding hacking MHL adapters, but there is not any information specific to the Note 10.1 2014.
Right now I've got a relay system in the dash that switches between a OTG cable and a charge cable depending if the ignition is on or off. This works for my basic purposes, but if I use GPS navigation and wifi tethering, I run the battery pretty low after only 3-4 hours. When I turn off the truck it begins charging, but that wont work for a road trip.
I've tried the Samsung smart dock (without reading that it wouldn't work), and of course, it doesn't work, although it would be the perfect solution.
My idea is that there would be some way to use the 11 pin MHL connector on the device to get what I'm after. Looking at the pinout, it seems that there are some USB host pins within the 6 additional MHL pins, but I do not know of anyone who has tapped into them and had OTG working.
Is anyone else trying to get this to work on a Note 10.1 2014? I'm happy to hack up and solder anything and everything imaginable to give it a try, but I'd like to collaborate about it and see if we as a group can get this working.
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Man, you really gotta get us a screenie of this! That's bad ass.
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Meanwhile, is there a possibility for that knock-out?

High current charging has an impact on the signal lines. So USB 2.0 current is limited to 500mA, or probably the 900mA from USB3, if the port can provide it. On a standard USB2 port the Note remains self-powered. And even with 900mA it will slowly discharge while in use, despite the battery charging at max current. On a 2A charger, the operating power bypasses the battery, which is much more healthy for it.

Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately I asked imprecise. What I liked to ask is, if there is meanwhile a possibility to charge the tablet while using the usb connection e.g. with an external hard disk?

Almost certainly not. Samsung could have provided a charger jack, or even support wireless charging. But it was not meant to be.

I just tried one of the charge and 2 female usb adapters off ebay and it didnt charge. It detected the usb connectors connection, but wouldnt charge.
$5 lost...

Did you used the wall plug? Because the tab needs 2A for charging...
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Why not take away the USB requirement? I assume you want this to allow external storage, in this case get some sort of NAS that can be 12V powered and install that in your truck then allow the Note to connect to this via Wifi, then the USB port can be dedicated entirely for charging only.
Plus you have the benefit that when at home you can transfer file to your NAS without needing to leave you PC.

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atunguyd said:
Why not take away the USB requirement? I assume you want this to allow external storage, in this case get some sort of NAS that can be 12V powered and install that in your truck then allow the Note to connect to this via Wifi, then the USB port can be dedicated entirely for charging only.
Plus you have the benefit that when at home you can transfer file to your NAS without needing to leave you PC.
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Check out ravPower wireless hub. Just ordered one since my otg hub quit working. It can charge and store with sd card. Will post when it comes in

sidyoung57 said:
Check out ravPower wireless hub. Just ordered one since my otg hub quit working. It can charge and store with sd card. Will post when it comes in
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Are you using the LTE/3G for internet access? if not then setting up a wireless network in your truck might work. I use a HooToo TM001 (also have the TM002) to do this set up. The hub has a 6000mah battery that when the USB drive is not installed can charge a device.

i know it's been a while since OP posted, but i've been using a wireless HD so i can use external storage and maintain a charge. if you get the seagate wireless plus, you'll be able to charge and stream at the same time as long as you use a usb3.0 cable to charge from (it's included). using a 2.0 cable will turn off wifi.
it's quite a bit more than OTG, but it does allow you to have tons of storage available while still having a charging option.

I use a nexus 7 in the dash of my car (sure do wish I had space for the note 10.1 in there though!) With the nexus 7 I bought a y-cable that allows me to charge AND use otg functions. However, a specific kernel was needed im pretty sure. I set it all up a while back so I cant remember specifically sorry. Its all nexus 7 forums here though.

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I use a nexus 7 in the dash of my car (sure do wish I had space for the note 10.1 in there though!) With the nexus 7 I bought a y-cable that allows me to charge AND use otg functions. However, a specific kernel was needed im pretty sure. I set it all up a while back so I cant remember specifically sorry. Its all nexus 7 forums here though.
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can you click on about tablet and let me know which kernel please

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can you click on about tablet and let me know which kernel please
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yeah mate, i'll have a look for you. the nexus 7 is out of the car now cus im trying to make a custom facia to fit the samsung note 10.1 in there. so I'll have to charge it up and have a look which kernel it was running. but im pretty sure it was just the default one that came with the AutoDroid rom in the nexus 7 forums.
if you don't hear back from me just pm me, I'm forgetful as hell and its coming into exam time....so yeah

Note 10 Dex on Atrix Lapdock ( didn't want to hijeack the other HP Elite X3 topic )

Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.

ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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Annoyingly I have a Atrix lapdock but I'm not confident about the rewiring so found a good discounted HP Elite X3 lapdock. Only if someone sold the full cable and adaptor package on eBay for the Atrix

haha, it sounds more complicated than it actually is
just remember that the RED cable in the micro usb cables is power, so that's the only one that needs cutting. What I did was:
1. cut the usb cable in half
2. strip a little bit of the non-RED cables and twisted them together.
3. use electrical tape to cover each of the re-attached cables.
4. pull the red leads back onto the black sheathe
5. use electrical tape to go over the junction between the 2 halves of the cable.
All of the other components are things that are easy to order online, Amazon.

ycavan said:
haha, it sounds more complicated than it actually is
just remember that the RED cable in the micro usb cables is power, so that's the only one that needs cutting. What I did was:
1. cut the usb cable in half
2. strip a little bit of the non-RED cables and twisted them together.
3. use electrical tape to cover each of the re-attached cables.
4. pull the red leads back onto the black sheathe
5. use electrical tape to go over the junction between the 2 halves of the cable.
All of the other components are things that are easy to order online, Amazon.
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Okay I'll order cables and have a go!
Please confirm the 3rd item in your list is a micro hdmi female to micro hdmi female as elsewhere I have seen micro female to standard female. Thanks

jah said:
Okay I'll order cables and have a go!
Please confirm the 3rd item in your list is a micro hdmi female to micro hdmi female as elsewhere I have seen micro female to standard female. Thanks
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Yes, I use a micro hdmi female to female adapter for my micro hdmi male to normal hdmi male cable.

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My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.

alexhalessays said:
My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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Also if you can run DeX well on a lapdock, you may not need a Samsung Tab S6!.

alexhalessays said:
My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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I use DeX with my lapdock instead of my "real" laptop a lot of the time. My emails are on my phone, contacts are on my phone, pretty much all of the gaming apps I use are on my phone. The only time I ever really need my laptop is to play high end games that aren't ported to Android. Now, if only LoD would come out for the note10... :/

Does the Note 10 support the old 1366x768 resolution on the Atrix Lapdock? I remember getting it going on my Note 8 and it's not a supported resolution leading to really unusable low-res blocky everything on the screen.

bchliu said:
Does the Note 10 support the old 1366x768 resolution on the Atrix Lapdock? I remember getting it going on my Note 8 and it's not a supported resolution leading to really unusable low-res blocky everything on the screen.
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Yup.

Okay, managed to get my old Motorola Atrix working with my Note 10+. Took a different route to the one described above as the female to female couplers are not easy to source. So I used the Rasberry PI cables for the Atrix and my Samsung Note 8 Dex hub, which was free with the Note 8. But I have to use a BT mouse. Otherwise a good solution. But I would recommend the HP Elite X3 lapdock instead if there is not much a price difference on eBay.

ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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Hi, I'm trying to do the same. I've got a Note 10+ hooked up to my old Atrix lapdock. Note goes to a multiport adapter. From the adapter's USB-A output, I ran a cable to the lapdock's micro-USB. From the adapter's HDMI out, I ran a cable to the lapdock's mini-HDMI. With that, I can use the lapdock's screen but no keyboard or trackpad.
I ran a cable from the adapter's USB-C to one of the lapdock's rear USB ports, after snipping the red wire, but still no kb/m. The phone does charge like this though.
What have I done wrong? TIA.
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The USB cable going to the micro-USB port on the lapdock needs to have the red cable snipped. What I did was to snip the red cable and pull both snipped ends back, then use a bit of electrical tape to cover that part of the wire so the snipped ends don't accidentally touch anything.
The USB cable(s) going to the rear of the lapdock are fine unmodified.

Dude/Dudette thank you so much!!! It's only because I came across your thread here that I decided to try and resurrect my trusty old lapdock, and now it works perfectly!
Thanks for replying so quickly. I modified the wrong cable - snipped the red wire on the USB cable running to the rear USB-A port. Doh!
ycavan said:
The USB cable going to the micro-USB port on the lapdock needs to have the red cable snipped. What I did was to snip the red cable and pull both snipped ends back, then use a bit of electrical tape to cover that part of the wire so the snipped ends don't accidentally touch anything.
The USB cable(s) going to the rear of the lapdock are fine unmodified.
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