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What accesssories are you ordering with your Nexus?

I'm planning on ordering from Expansys and getting at least the MHL adapter (would the Expansys one work as well as the official Samsung one?), a car kit, and maybe this sleek looking case once it's in stock.

I would get the HTC MHL adapter. It looks much better and the ports are arranged more logically.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
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I'll be getting (when in stock) an extra battery
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery.html
and another charger for it
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery-charger.html

I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.

mskip said:
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
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Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable

gabster21 said:
Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
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Paul at Modaco has made a custom kernel to support usb drives *HERE*. I havent tested that function yet though so I cant confirm it works.
Mark.

I just picked up a MilitaryShield screen protector and carbon fiber skin from amazon. I thought for $15 I couldn't go wrong.
telepathically sent with my Galaxy Nexus which is being imprisoned by FedEx

i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?

i already bought the screen protector and mhl. will be buying a soft holster pouch if my droid x one doesnt fit in and probably some sort of case. maybe the one with the kickstand. and a battery

just bought a black leather fitbag case for it, also looking at buying a battery pack for it to charge on the go

Iv ordered a cheap ebay case, the leather flip one for when im out, £5 cant go wrong....

I want to be able to connect my Nexus to my Tv and watch videos and also play emulated games using controllers, so I'm getting the MHL Adapter and HDMI Cable. Free shipping on amazon? don't mind if I do.

idan_mo said:
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
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For what you're using it for, the 2nd one won't work, unless you plug the mhl cable directly into the phone (the port should be open since it's in landscape). Everyone needs to keep in mind that the 2nd one only charges it. It WILL NOT connect to a computer for file transfer, nor will it support mhl/HDMI out.
In terms of ease of use and function, I prefer the 2nd one though, because (going off how the nexus one worked) you can just drop the phone in/take it out one handed easily; no need to line the port up. This actually works better than the n1, since it would always fall over if you weren't careful (since it was oriented in portrait mode). In addition, the phone should automatically connect to the dock through bluetooth, which I loved on the N1.
Hope this helps your decision. Oh, and I'm definitely getting the official Samsung landscape dock

so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?

idan_mo said:
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
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For the official portrait dock, you may or may not be able to connect everything to the back of the dock. It depends on if Samsung is foolish or not.
For the official landscape dock (with the pins) the back can ONLY be used for charging the phone. The controller and HDMI out would have to be placed in the port of the phone itself, assuming that it actually shows while sitting in the dock (I don't know if it even does). The whole point of this dock is to be a stylish desk clock/charger, and nothing else. (Again, going off of the nexus one dock. There's an extremely slight possibility that they've improved the pin connector tech, but as far as I know, it wouldn't be enough to port full video through)
So for your uses, get the portrait dock. It connects to the phone via usb, and while it may not be as fancy as the landscape one, it'll almost definitely be more useful to you.

thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?

idan_mo said:
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.

tsunami1609 said:
Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Actually, it's either MHL or USB. They use the same pins, so you can never get USB and MHL to work at the same time.
If you want HDMI output and controller input at the same time, Bluetooth is the only way to go.

mskip said:
I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive.
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Make sure it's a USB-OTG cable and not a simple adapter. That one doesn't say that it's OTG. May still be though.

tsunami1609 said:
Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
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Has anyone tried the Sixaxis tool from the market on the SGS and confirm it works?
Also, I bought this USB micro to female adapter from Expansys: http://www.expansys.ae/expansys-micro-usb-male-to-usb-female-adapter-223101/
How do I find out if it's OTG or not?

[Q] mhl -> dvi

Hello,
I've bought a mhl adapter for my i9100,
I want to coonect the phone to pc monitor the with mhl adapter
I use mhl adapter + power supply
I tried two option.
1 is to connect the hdmi out to a hdmi to dvi adapter and then connect to the monitor with a dvi cable --> The result is a black screen .. the monitor light is green(good) (cable is dvi-d single link)
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Second option is I use a hdmi->dvi cable and then the result is a black scereen and the monitor light is yellow (cable is dvi-d dual link)
In my screen I have only vga and dvi input.
This is my screen manual
Code:
http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/1/170b5cs_27b/170b5cs_27b_dfu_eng.pdf
Is there anything that I can do to fix it? Is it even pssiable? ?
Thank you.

no_alone said:
Hello,
I've bought a mhl adapter for my i9100,
I want to coonect the phone to pc monitor the with mhl adapter
I use mhl adapter + power supply
I tried two option.
1 is to connect the hdmi out to a hdmi to dvi adapter and then connect to the monitor with a dvi cable --> The result is a black screen .. the monitor light is green(good) (cable is dvi-d single link)
Second option is I use a hdmi->dvi cable and then the result is a black scereen and the monitor light is yellow (cable is dvi-d dual link)
In my screen I have only vga and dvi input.
This is my screen manual
Code:
http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/1/170b5cs_27b/170b5cs_27b_dfu_eng.pdf
Is there anything that I can do to fix it? Is it even pssiable? ?
Thank you.
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I can't find a reason this wouldn't work. The second option sounds like a bad cable, but the first just sounds like the signal is sent black. You aren't on CM7 are you?

thacounty said:
I can't find a reason this wouldn't work. The second option sounds like a bad cable, but the first just sounds like the signal is sent black. You aren't on CM7 are you?
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Both of the cables are working from my ATI 5850 HD
I'm on lightning.. (I know the development stopped , But I didnt have the power to change to a new one, I just waiting to ICS)
Should I try changing the rom ?
What rom are you suggesting?
Thank you
P.S
Working with my TV.( HDMI CABLE both sides... , But my TV also have dvi option... I'll try to see if I can Isolate the pc monitor as the problem)

try stock rom gingerbread 2.3.6 kk5, for me it's working with no problem
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It could be a HDCP problem since the samsung dongle uses HDMI.
I don't know i HDCP is used, but if it is, it's surely the problem. HDCP is a copy protection scheme that uses a kind of "handshake" signal across pheriperals.
In this case you'll need a dongle that does the handshake for you and passes the stream through to a i.e. DVI port..

This is very strange. I have the same adaptors as you do and it works fine with Dell monitor. I also have a custom rom so I don't think this is ROM related.

no_alone said:
Both of the cables are working from my ATI 5850 HD
I'm on lightning.. (I know the development stopped , But I didnt have the power to change to a new one, I just waiting to ICS)
Should I try changing the rom ?
What rom are you suggesting?
Thank you
P.S
Working with my TV.( HDMI CABLE both sides... , But my TV also have dvi option... I'll try to see if I can Isolate the pc monitor as the problem)
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Have you resolve this yet?
I'm having a similar issue as you do, but I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus. I'm using a HDMI-to-DVI adapter and it's been causing issues with all 5 monitors I tested with today. It works fine with all 3 HDTVs when they were connected to MHL directly via HDMI. I have one monitor that has both, DVI and HDMI, ports and while the DVI doesn't work well (it flickers like crazy), the direct HDMI connection was superb. I'm starting to think that it's the issue with the HDMI-to-DVI adapter that might be losing some important signal sent by MHL or something.

I don't use an adapter,but an HDMI-to-DVI cable.On my old monitor(A 19" ViewSonic with 4:3 aspect ratio,I don't even remember the rest of the details),it doesn't show anything at all.On my new monitor though,which is a Samsung 24" one(although I do not quite remember exactly what model it is and I'm on my laptop now),it kinda works,but resolution is ****,colors are ape**** and it flickers like hell.So I'd say don't bother with it.It seems to only work fine with TVs and HDMI-enabled monitors unfortunately.

tolis626 said:
I don't use an adapter,but an HDMI-to-DVI cable.On my old monitor(A 19" ViewSonic with 4:3 aspect ratio,I don't even remember the rest of the details),it doesn't show anything at all.On my new monitor though,which is a Samsung 24" one(although I do not quite remember exactly what model it is and I'm on my laptop now),it kinda works,but resolution is ****,colors are ape**** and it flickers like hell.So I'd say don't bother with it.It seems to only work fine with TVs and HDMI-enabled monitors unfortunately.
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Yeah. It seems like DVI doesn't work good at all. People should only buy a MHL adapter if they have HDMI-enabled TV and monitors.

mine works with local content, but not streamed
I've setup a monitor in almost exactly the same way as you. If I try playing a movie off the SD card, it plays fine and looks great. If I try and stream from PS3 Media server it chokes and either sits at loading or goes to black screen.
Found it does the same even on an HDMI tv, so not sure what the problem is. Seems similar perhaps to people who couldnt get the MHL to work with wifi.

Its possibly the MHL adapter itself...
I had a similar problem however in reverse... My first MHL adapter would not let me connect to my TV (Phone - MHL - HDMI - TV) however i could use a DVI/HDMI adapter cable to go into a computer screen (Phone - MHL - HDMI/DVI - Computer Screen). I think its like what fluke2k said about the HDCP handshake thing. My TV tried the handshake with the MHL adapter but because it was an El-Cheapo it didnt respond and the TV wouldnt accept data from that port, whereas the computer monitor didnt worry about it and everything worked awesome.
I got a second MHL adapter that has a HDMI cable attached (altogether a better system, long microUSB cable to go to phone, then HDMI out and a USB Micro female cord (not a plug) to provide power, very well designed IMO) Anyways with that cable no problem to go into anything i have tried yet.
Its possible that its using a function of HDMI to determine what its connecting to, or that its connected into a HDMI device. Since the adapter isnt doing that, your getting no signal being put through.
http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00LjKazkPRqQqr/MHL-to-HDMI-Male-Cable-MHL-Adapter-Cable.jpg
thats sort of like the MHL adapter i have, works awesome for me. Bought it off ebay for less than $5. YMMV.
My suggestion for you: Try your various shops around town, see if they have an adapter. Check their return policy, tell them you have a MHL adapter that does not do what you want to do, if possible take your setup with you and test it on equipment there.
Good luck!

I have the same setup, and I experience the same problem.
I can't get HDMI out.
I am using Thebyani 4.3 Siyah 3.2.7 Kernel. (others have confirmed that MHL works on this ROM)
The thing is that when I connect the HDMI cable to the screen, the phone seems to think that it is connected, i.e. the sound stops and the screen rotates. My monitor even shows DVI in the corner but stays black.
I have tried it on a friend who has HDMI input, same thing... the screen seems to recognise signal but blank screen.
Any ideas? is it a faulty converter?

same problem i have also the same thing like your but only black screen my mobile screen rotate to landscape mode auto when i connect to monitor ...when i disconnect the cable my monitor blink and shows some time red some time yellow some time green color mean every time time i disconnect the cable its show different color for a moment

720P only alas!
I've done a few tests with mine. If you use any kind of HDMI to DVI adapter, the MHL adapter seems to operate in 720P mode. Works fine in portrait, if a little fuzzy of course on a Full HD monitor, but the real issue is running the device in landscape, which of course is what you really want from this... using DVI, you lose the left and right edges making it unusable.
Seems to work fine on a HDMI equipped HD TV though where 1080P works, and as long as the "just scan" option is enabled on the TV, it all fits properly. My Samsung 24" monitors unfortunately don't have such an option for scaling the image in "digital mode".
Shame I can't use my older DVI monitors for this
So if you want to use this device... you'll need presumably a monitor with a real HDMI input, or a "TV".

microUSB to RCA/composite audio

OK, I am about to make the switch from iPhone to SGS3 as soon as they become available in the US.
My main concern right now is getting the audio to play through my current truck stereo deck (JVC KD-DV6200). Right now, I am using the Apple AV adapter that goes from the dock connector to composite (Red/white/yellow) and USB. This way, the phone charges while playing my tunes.
What are my options for keeping this same functionality. I want to be able to go from the microUSB to the composite (red/white) ports of the deck and also be able to charge the phone at the same time.
I am wanting to stay away from using the headphone jack as this usually results in some sort of hissing or humming interference.
I appreciate any info you can give. I'm simply trying to compile info so I can have things together when I finally jump ship.
the_buzz_man

You can get HDMI, VGA and DVI MHL adapters but not composite, and the S3 uses a new type of MHL cable so for now i think you can only find HDMI.

Other option would be to build your own cable, for more information check following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395173&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275

Is it because this is such a new device that it is hard to find such a cable?
I have been very excited about dumping my iDevice and going Google but I must admit that this worries me somewhat. To me, a cable like this should be a basic accessory and should be readily available. Maybe I just got spoiled to that Apple AV cable.
I'm not trying to start a rant or anything, nor am I trying to dog android or apple. I'm just hoping that I missed something and that it will show up.
I'm still excited and anxious about trimming that apple tree.
the_buzz_man

Not to point out the obvious... but a single cable will not accomplish that. The micro USB is a digital port, not an analog port like the RCA jack inputs are on your stereo. So in order to convert the audio from the usb on the phone, it will need to go through a converter box to convert the signal.
You're pretty much better off just doing the headphone jack even though you dont want to. You could upgrade your stereo to one that does bluetooth streaming for cheaper than it would cost to get a converter.
Something like this *might* work... but I cannot guarantee it
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-REC2PC-Stereo-RCA-Cable/dp/B003R7KSYG
You would just need a standard USB to Micro USB adapter and hope it works.

coreyzw said:
Not to point out the obvious... but a single cable will not accomplish that. The micro USB is a digital port, not an analog port like the RCA jack inputs are on your stereo. So in order to convert the audio from the usb on the phone, it will need to go through a converter box to convert the signal.
You're pretty much better off just doing the headphone jack even though you dont want to. You could upgrade your stereo to one that does bluetooth streaming for cheaper than it would cost to get a converter.
Something like this *might* work... but I cannot guarantee it
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-REC2PC-Stereo-RCA-Cable/dp/B003R7KSYG
You would just need a standard USB to Micro USB adapter and hope it works.
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Uh, apparently, it will. Granted, I don't know if it works w/ the GS3 (who knows what they flipped given the whole MHL adapter fiasco) but my guess is this is all generic android. Looking at the links posted above, it is possible to make a cable that will put the phone into home/car dock mode using resistors where the audio is then output via usb. I guess the sound isn't amplified so it sounds crummy w/o an amplifier, but if it's going out to a car preamp, it should be fine. When you think about it, this is how the docks work, sans the actual dock. I'm going to try to make this cable later as it doesn't look too hard.
I'm kinda sick of having to plug in two cables (w/ the GS3, it's one on top and one on the bottom which would be very awkward) and was debating whether to pursue a bluetooth solution, but this would work nicely.

This may not be the most attractive solution, but you can simply charge the phone with a car lighter plug and output the music through the headphone jack to the RCA cables. That type of cable certainly exists.

vnamee said:
Uh, apparently, it will. Granted, I don't know if it works w/ the GS3 (who knows what they flipped given the whole MHL adapter fiasco) but my guess is this is all generic android. Looking at the links posted above, it is possible to make a cable that will put the phone into home/car dock mode using resistors where the audio is then output via usb. I guess the sound isn't amplified so it sounds crummy w/o an amplifier, but if it's going out to a car preamp, it should be fine. When you think about it, this is how the docks work, sans the actual dock. I'm going to try to make this cable later as it doesn't look too hard.
I'm kinda sick of having to plug in two cables (w/ the GS3, it's one on top and one on the bottom which would be very awkward) and was debating whether to pursue a bluetooth solution, but this would work nicely.
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**** it... good luck

wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...

viskey said:
wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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This is what I suggested above but with the dock is a much cleaner solution.

viskey said:
wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man

the_buzz_man said:
That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man
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There's a diagram in the post above. Essentially, the 365k resister on the ID pin launches it into dock mode, one is ground, one is to charge, and the other are left and right out. It doesn't look at all complicated. I'm going to make one later to see if it will work with my vibrant. Once I get my S3, hopefully it will still work. Then there's just the matter of making it look non-ghetto. You'd want to avoid electrical tape because the adhesive will probably melt in the car.

From reading those posts, it doesn't seem like it would be difficult at all to make this cable/adapter. Now, with the change they made to the MHL to HDMI adapter, I wonder if it changes the pinouts and the needed resistors for the S3.
I will be patiently awaiting some input/feedback from S3 owners that attempt this.
the_buzz_man

the_buzz_man said:
That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
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You could always get a microusb extension but then that dock would have to be hidden somewhere or something.

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1) The Samsung EPL-3FHU adapter for Galaxy S3. Has 11-pin MHL input from phone, 5-pin micro-USB input from charger, and HDMI output toward display.
2) Standard micro-USB to USB cable from #1 to #3 (charger).
3) Griffin dual USB car charger.
4) Standard HDMI cable.
5) ViewHD Universal HDMI to Composite / AV Video Converter with HDMI input, optional (unnecessary) mini-USB power input, and composite A/V output to car display inputs.
6) Standard composite A/V cable.
7) The composite A/V inputs in my armrest. All gear above (#1-6) will be in my armrest, including #1, the MHL adapter.
8) Location of my phone - it fits perfectly in the ashtray opening when the ashtray door is open. I'll run a cable under the center console and out through the ashtray opening so that I can plug it in to my phone. The cable I need for this is number 10.
9) The phone, a Samsung Galaxy S III with its 11-pin MHL/micro-USB port.
10) This is the piece I don't have, can't find, and don't think I can make or re-create. I need it to be 11-pin micro-USB female on one end to plug into #1 above, and 11-pin micro-USB male on the other to plug into the phone. I think I need it to support the 11-pin Samsung micro-USB MHL pinouts (shown in macro/detail above) in order to pass both the audio/video and USB charging over the same cable. I might have to try the 5-pin flavors of MHL adapter (plus 5-to-11-pin adapter) and standard micro-USB cable to see if it works.
Any thoughts?

I would just splice into the mhl 11 pin cable and extend it as needed.
I've got a galaxy s3 but no mhl cable yet. Waiting for the price to drop a little...
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futaris said:
I would just splice into the mhl 11 pin cable and extend it as needed.
I've got a galaxy s3 but no mhl cable yet. Waiting for the price to drop a little...
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Hi futaris - thanks for the reply. The problem I have with that is two-fold. One, the actual 11-pin micro-USB section of the MHL adapter is very short, and doesn't leave a lot of room to actually snip wires, pull back insulation, and solder on an extension (to all 11 wires). Also, it's a one-shot deal with that option. If something goes wrong I'm out of $40 USD. That's why I was mainly avoiding using that method. If I use the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip, which functionality would I lose (charging, video, audio)? I don't need USB OTG in the car. That may be a better bet here.

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Hi futaris - thanks for the reply. The problem I have with that is two-fold. One, the actual 11-pin micro-USB section of the MHL adapter is very short, and doesn't leave a lot of room to actually snip wires, pull back insulation, and solder on an extension (to all 11 wires). Also, it's a one-shot deal with that option. If something goes wrong I'm out of $40 USD. That's why I was mainly avoiding using that method. If I use the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip, which functionality would I lose (charging, video, audio)? I don't need USB OTG in the car. That may be a better bet here.
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The 5 pin adapter doesn't cost you any HDMI functionality or charging. It only costs you USB OTG that I know of.

thacounty said:
The 5 pin adapter doesn't cost you any HDMI functionality or charging. It only costs you USB OTG that I know of.
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Ok, so I tried the older 5-pin MHL adapter with the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip and it works. However, when I tried to use a standard micro-USB female to male extension cable (www .amazon.com/Micro-B-Female-Extension-Manhattan-307420/dp/B007TLEDTW), it wouldn't pass any video or audio. Are the pinouts from the 11-to-5-pin tip different than a standard micro-USB cable? Can anyone think of another way to allow me to place the MHL adapter further away (maybe 5ft) from the phone itself? Has anyone tried one of these along with the 11-to-5-pin adapter for the S3? www .amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380

dcs3 said:
Ok, so I tried the older 5-pin MHL adapter with the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip and it works. However, when I tried to use a standard micro-USB female to male extension cable (www .amazon.com/Micro-B-Female-Extension-Manhattan-307420/dp/B007TLEDTW), it wouldn't pass any video or audio. Are the pinouts from the 11-to-5-pin tip different than a standard micro-USB cable? Can anyone think of another way to allow me to place the MHL adapter further away (maybe 5ft) from the phone itself? Has anyone tried one of these along with the 11-to-5-pin adapter for the S3? www .amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380
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I have heard that you can't extend USB very far, but I have no data to back that up. How about a longer HDMI cable instead?

Any full featured dock available (HDMI+USB OTG)

Hello,
Have been eyeing the device for a while now. Was planning to get Tab 7.7 earlier, but that screen size cannot be much used for office productivity. So have been summing up the budget for this one.
In my typical usage scenario, I have to keep it upright (for work or for presentations) connected with a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and display output to most common VGA projectors in case of presentations. Also would like at least one, preferably two USB OTG ports to connect my external flash/harddrive or any other accessories.
I believe the USB OTG and HDMI OUT functionality on this tablet is both handled by the MicroUSB connector at the bottom, correct me if I am wrong.
To envisage my needed accessory, is there any dock available, on which the tablet sits in the landscape orientation, connects via microusb connector, keeps charging and outputs the MHL HDMI disaply at the same time. On the back of the dock, supposedly should be the HDMI female connector, USB OTG port(s) and card reader ports. I know for connecting to a VGA projector I also have to use a HDMI male to VGA female adapter.
If such a solution is available, then I can think of it as a useful office productivity tool. I have seen some connectors like http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-SD-TF-Card-Reader-MHL-to-HDMI-TV-Adapter-for-Samsung-Note-2-S3-S4-/271284804413 but in my scenario , for plugging such a connector to tab 10.1, it should be lying flat on the table during any presentation or work, which is not practical and a workable position for anyone.
I have tried looking around but was not able to find such a dock, so thought to have some help from the community here.
Would love your ideas and opinions about it. Thanks for your answers.
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An ideal dock like I am describing is available.....but sadly for iPad iPad2 iPhone4 S iPod.....http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multi-function-Docking-All-in-one-HDMI-VGA-USB-Dock-iPad-iPad2-iPhone4-S-iPod-Stand/543638036.html?.....wish something similar can be made available for Samsung Galaxy Tab/ Galaxy Note series.

I have had my eye on this guy for dock use. Seems to be a good deal as well, compared to the Samsung version.
Qable Powerz Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FZGUXSI/ref=aw_ls__2?colid=8ROJSLYX35XN&coliid=IN9U996ZNKTZI
My tablet actually docks just fine on my phone charging cradle which is of a similar design, so I would think this will work as well.
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Mr_Armageddon said:
I have had my eye on this guy for dock use. Seems to be a good deal as well, compared to the Samsung version.
Qable Powerz Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FZGUXSI/ref=aw_ls__2?colid=8ROJSLYX35XN&coliid=IN9U996ZNKTZI
My tablet actually docks just fine on my phone charging cradle which is of a similar design, so I would think this will work as well.
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Hi Armageddon,
Thanks for the answer. I actually did my research and almost reached the same product as you have mentioned. Since you own a 10.1 2014 tablet, I believe this tablet does offer the same via standard 11-pin micro USB connector (instead of the propreitary Samsung connector used in earlier models).
I was able to find a couple of smart docks, which are advertised to work with GNII/III and Galaxy S3/S4, all of which I believe do have the 11-pin micro USB MHL connector. Please have a look at the following
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Multimedia-Dock-HDMI-USB-Dock-Station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-Galaxy-S4-I9500-S3/1439104485.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-High-Quality-HDMI-Smart-Multimedia-Dock-Charger-Station-Cradle-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-II/1405399957.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multimedia-Dock-station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-2-N7100-S3-S4-with-audio-out-and/1422156460.html
All of them are advertised to do all the functions simultaneously at the same time , that is "OTG + HDMI + Charging".
I believe the docks i have found and you have mentioned on Amazon are the same , are they ? . I need to know
1. Have you tried this or a similar dock and found all functions to be working simultaneously and satisfactorily.
2. By a long shot, since S3/S4 also have an 11pin micro USB connector, have any of you tried or can comment on whether this dock would work with a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet. Theoretically and technically , i think it should but need your advice. Would the tablet fit in snug in the connector space given on the dock.
Thanks for reading and your feedback.

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Our tablet stay on the note II docks ? It never falls ?

Received the dock today. It works ok with Note 3 (charging, usb keyboard, output to tv) but not with note 10.1 2014. Oh well ...
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It's a pity Samsung doesn't release a Transformer-style tablet/dock combo. Asus keeps having more hardware problems than Samsung, and Samsung seemed happy for a while to try out every possible form factor.
The new Transformer Infinity (TF701T) straight out of the box has all the functionality that OP requests. Unfortunately early batches of the Infinity have had problems with their dock connectors, so to replace my old Transformer Prime I'm seriously thinking of jumping ship and getting a Note 10.1. It seems much better suited for use in tablet mode (smaller bezels, lighter), but I would miss the dock...

rickyt63 said:
Received the dock today. It works ok with Note 3 (charging, usb keyboard, output to tv) but not with note 10.1 2014. Oh well ...
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I wonder if the Samsung OEM one like this one works. But I don't know about the $100 price tag.
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Mr_Armageddon said:
I have had my eye on this guy for dock use. Seems to be a good deal as well, compared to the Samsung version.
Qable Powerz Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FZGUXSI/ref=aw_ls__2?colid=8ROJSLYX35XN&coliid=IN9U996ZNKTZI
My tablet actually docks just fine on my phone charging cradle which is of a similar design, so I would think this will work as well.
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I was eyeing this one as well which is cheaper than the OEM it copies.
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It's only a 5pin(actually 4) connector. Such a dock should be possible with a switch to manually change between usb/hdmi/cardreader etc.

Anyone found anything that works?
Tested 2 docks from DX, so far kinda mixed results
one works kinda, has 2 x usb and both work, hdmi seems to output only at 720 p I think ( best way to check ??anyone??) , BUT charging isn't working it seems ( still testing, maybe trickle charge))
http://dx.com/p/5v-1000mah-mhl-otg-...on-for-samsung-i9300-i9500-n7100-black-238004
The other one
http://dx.com/p/mhl-to-hdmi-otg-card-reader-for-samsung-i9300-i9500-n7100-n5100-p3200-238273
The usb seems to work fine, same issue with charging, and I can't seem to get the HDMI to work, still working and testing on the last part
The ideal would be usb otg + charge ( would be nice if the charging wasn't mandatory ) + hdmi
Anyone found anything they can confirm works?

I think you cannot get 2A charging current while using usb for data. Probably data mode is limited to 500mA, or 900mA.

Samsung is releasing an ethernet adapter with 2 usb ports for the Nok Pro 12.2 if it's micro usb 2.0 it should work with our tablet
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where did you hear that, link?
Would be great if true ...

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where did you hear that, link?
Would be great if true ...
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not a dock...

Wow, wicked !!! Did you happen to notice release date? Any product links?

Any news on that? Does it charge while using the usb-ports?

Has anyone tried one of the smart docks for the S3/4 and Note phones?
I'm going to go out on a limb and just try a OTG cable in one of the USB ports on the side and assume it might work.

this Lindy Dock looks like it has all the right specs including 2a power
Dock Port : 1 x USB Micro-B 11-pin (Male)
USB Device Port: 3 x USB Type A (Female)
Video Output: 1 x HDMI (Female)
Power Input: USB Micro B type (Female)
Power LED Indication:
Red = Charging Mode
Blue = Active Mode
USB Port: USB 2.0 High Speed 480 Mbps
Power Voltage Support: DC 5V/2A (Micro B type)
HDMI Resolution (Max): 1920 x 1080p @ 60Hz
Operating Temperature: 00C - 400C
Storage Temperature: 00C - 600C
Weight: 59g
Dimension: (LxWxH) 91.8 x 60 x 12mm
the problem is they dont ship to the US or i would order one right now as it has everything i have been looking for. i also searched and searched and find it for sale anywhere else

USA Store
http://www.lindy-usa.com/smartphone-docking-station-73391.html
fletch33 said:
this Lindy Dock looks like it has all the right specs including 2a power
Dock Port : 1 x USB Micro-B 11-pin (Male)
USB Device Port: 3 x USB Type A (Female)
Video Output: 1 x HDMI (Female)
Power Input: USB Micro B type (Female)
Power LED Indication:
Red = Charging Mode
Blue = Active Mode
USB Port: USB 2.0 High Speed 480 Mbps
Power Voltage Support: DC 5V/2A (Micro B type)
HDMI Resolution (Max): 1920 x 1080p @ 60Hz
Operating Temperature: 00C - 400C
Storage Temperature: 00C - 600C
Weight: 59g
Dimension: (LxWxH) 91.8 x 60 x 12mm
the problem is they dont ship to the US or i would order one right now as it has everything i have been looking for. i also searched and searched and find it for sale anywhere else
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tamuin said:
http://www.lindy-usa.com/smartphone-docking-station-73391.html
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haha was 2 minutes away from posting:
found the Lindy online at their US store since i couldnt order from the UK site. you can see it here but i had to search part number to find it and no info was listed so you have to use the UK site to read up on it.
will report back on results after it arives
Thanks
UPDATE - they are going to take a few extra day to get it to me as they dont have it in the US and have to ship it to US then to me

Anyone's looking for USB C to HDMI output?

I wonder how you folks connect your cells to TVs and monitors? There's a bunch of USB C to HDMI adaptors but they all seem to be designed for the newest Macbooks with USB C port(s) only. Is it even a possibility to transfer media thru USB C of LG V20? Kinda annoying to use Chromecast and watch YouTube ads and other crap instead of connecting cell directly to TV and watch whatever I need. Please advise!

USB c to slimport. Or I connect to my Samsung 65JS9500 wirelessly. No ports needed.

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USB c to slimport. Or I connect to my Samsung 65JS9500 wirelessly. No ports needed.
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Something like that http://www.ebay.com/itm/351594598444 apparently will work? I just wanted to hear if someone uses one of those mhl adaptors and knows they are compatible. Wireless streaming isn't working for me as I don't have any WiFi at home.

No mhl. USB c to slimport.

Hey, the LGV20 can achieve HDMI connection via Slimport, they just released it today but is already unavailable, I contacted Slimport and they sent me the link to purchase it via Amazon, but I have to wait until it is back in stock. Here is the link - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA
So to be clear, the LG V20 does not support MHL, the hdmi connection is achieved via Slimport which is different technology
alexsoin said:
I wonder how you folks connect your cells to TVs and monitors? There's a bunch of USB C to HDMI adaptors but they all seem to be designed for the newest Macbooks with USB C port(s) only. Is it even a possibility to transfer media thru USB C of LG V20? Kinda annoying to use Chromecast and watch YouTube ads and other crap instead of connecting cell directly to TV and watch whatever I need. Please advise!
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MrTonyToca said:
Hey, the LGV20 can achieve HDMI connection via Slimport, they just released it today but is already unavailable, I contacted Slimport and they sent me the link to purchase it via Amazon, but I have to wait until it is back in stock. Here is the link - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M733OQA...I340M8K4L0HATV
So to be clear, the LG V20 does not support MHL, the hdmi connection is achieved via Slimport which is different technology
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your link isn't working - I was able to find it though - correct link
https://www.amazon.com/Analogix-Sli...TF8&qid=1478173257&sr=8-1&keywords=B01M733OQA

I have this and it works for my V20.
https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Mult...478188054&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+usb+c+hdmi

Great, guys! Thanks for commenting! I didn't even know about slimport after using several Sammy cells with microUSB and using same MHL cable (which costs like 3$) Now I gotta pay 30$ but at least I know it'll work fine!

Check out this thread on reddit for more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/59m22k/i_purchased_a_usb_c_to_hdmi_out_adapter_heres_a/

jayrodclg said:
I have this and it works for my V20.
https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Mult...478188054&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+usb+c+hdmi
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That is a pretty good price for those, other sites I've looked at didn't come close to that price.
In other news, I'm curious about ones like this (TrippLite). They make a big deal out of the USB-C port being usable for 60W Power Delivery, and don't actually state whether that is the only capability of that port. I'm wondering whether one can plug a cable from one's computer into that port, both charge the phone and do data transfer at the same time. Strongly implied it doesn't have that capability, but it could have it. Grr, more detail needed.

alexsoin said:
I wonder how you folks connect your cells to TVs and monitors? There's a bunch of USB C to HDMI adaptors but they all seem to be designed for the newest Macbooks with USB C port(s) only. Is it even a possibility to transfer media thru USB C of LG V20? Kinda annoying to use Chromecast and watch YouTube ads and other crap instead of connecting cell directly to TV and watch whatever I need. Please advise!
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I use the Microsoft Display Dock to connect my V20 to TV. The package comes with a dock, a type-c to type-c cable and a type-c charger which can charge the phone while playing video on TV. And the dock has display port and three USB ports which mean you can connect keyboard, mouse and usb storage at the same time!
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Microsoft-Display-Docking-Station/dp/B018E5L53S

I am using this $30 SlimPort adapter and I get 4K output (but only at 30Hz, not 60Hz).
The other issue is there is no charging port on the adapter. So you cannot charge and watch videos at the same time.
But overall, it is working as advertised and a nice touch is that the phone screen automatically dims when connected to an external display.
https://www.amazon.com/Analogix-SlimPort-Adapter-SlimPort-enabled-tablets/dp/B01M733OQA/

ahlok_hk said:
I use the Microsoft Display Dock to connect my V20 to TV. The package comes with a dock, a type-c to type-c cable and a type-c charger which can charge the phone while playing video on TV. And the dock has display port and three USB ports which mean you can connect keyboard, mouse and usb storage at the same time!
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Microsoft-Display-Docking-Station/dp/B018E5L53S
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Thanks for mentioning this. I was using this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IUXA9YK because it could charge the phone whereas the slimport could not. And while it worked it was emitting a sound similar to a "cheap power supply coil noise" that made me uncomfortable using it.
For $20 more the Microsoft Dock is much better made...(metal even!). And it comes with all the extras you mentioned...
The downside is that it needs a power adapter to work...whereas the other one didn't...but it's worth the tradeoff imho.

I have an LG monitor with USB-C so all I do is connect a USB-C cable to my phone and the monitor and it charges and displays the V20 screen.
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Radio shack
alexsoin said:
I wonder how you folks connect your cells to TVs and monitors? There's a bunch of USB C to HDMI adaptors but they all seem to be designed for the newest Macbooks with USB C port(s) only. Is it even a possibility to transfer media thru USB C of LG V20? Kinda annoying to use Chromecast and watch YouTube ads and other crap instead of connecting cell directly to TV and watch whatever I need. Please advise!
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Radio shack sells one that works ive tried it myself. I believe its $39.99

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-USB-C-Adapter-Macbook-Chromebook/dp/B0123PJ9BK?th=1
these have been working fine for me, and I also have the displayport version which also works on the V20

Can't you do simcast? Or something else over WiFi or Bluetooth? Do you have to physically connect the device to a tv?

Im way late to this party
Tried the insignia adapter
I have been tinkering with this issue since purchasing a V20 a couple of weeks ago.
Since I travel for work and my Shield tablet LTE is getting long in the tooth, I thought this could be my magic bullet solution...
My findings:
Chromecast/Miracast works great so long the chromecast is connected to the internet.
The gen1 Microsoft wireless display adapter has horrible lag.
Then I found the J5 Create usb-c dongle. Its a pricey 80.00 USD.
I have not tried the ethernet port but everything else works with the exception of the pass thru charging.
Oddly enough, the LG G5 (my work phone) does charge quickly using this device. Yes, all ports do work besides untested ethernet.
Im not sure if this limitation is harware or software related since both phones share very similar innards.
Too bad the official Slimport adapter does not have pass thru charging since that would be the best way to go...
If you find a solution that allows for pass thru charging, please let me know.
Update: I have now tried the insignia branded adapter. This one as well as the J5 Create version do not charge the V20. The battery icon indicates that it is charging but it dischages at 2% per 10 minutes.
The G5 indicates charging and actually does charge.
So, the search continues for an adapter that will actually charge the V20.

The ones made for MacBooks and computers with USB-C work with the V20, I have bought and tried many as I work at an electronics retailer. Even the hub ones that add USB ports, check out the Satechi USB C HDMI hub, it gives you passthrough charging as well as 2 3.0 USB ports and an HDMI.
Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J4BO0X8/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_3sQGybFCQG0WA
I use this to connect to HDMI display, wireless USB keyboard and mouse, and USB to Ethernet adapter all while maintaining a steady charge.
The reason behind this compatibility is that the V20 is actually one of the first few phones with a real USB 3.0 (that's right not 2.0!) type C port so basically any USB 3.0 C peripherals will work as they are in spec with the connector.

Actually, Slimport follows all DisplayPort standards. I decided to take a chance and picked up an Insignia multi adapter from BB today. I'm very pleased to announce to you all that it works beautifully. Video stream has very little lag, if any at all, it charges the phone while mirroring. Even Netflix didn't complain at all. It also throws in a USB 3 port that works fine as well. I tested all of these before posting, after watching about an hour of Netflix and Amazon videos, barely warm to the touch.
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