Unlocking smartphones: Illegal
That’s right — unlocking your smartphone so you can take it to another wireless carrier will soon be illegal, unless authorized by your carrier. This, despite the fact that the Register has allowed unlocking since 2006.
There are some exceptions to this rule — but they aren’t worth cheering for. Specifically, you may unlock any phone you own now, or buy between now and “ninety days after the effective date of this exemption.” As of January 2013, however, unlocking your device without permission is decidedly against the law.
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Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...-be-illegal-and-other-new-dmca-rule-insanity/
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Kind of a silly law eh?
Nothing new, this is all over the place, namely Gizmodo and Engadget.
I for one will be ignoring this "law" should I ever find myself with a GSM phone...
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Nobody cares. End of the day, just kind of do it anyway and I guarantee nothing will ever, ever happen to you.
jimmyco2008 said:
Nothing new, this is all over the place, namely Gizmodo and Engadget.
I for one will be ignoring this "law" should I ever find myself with a GSM phone...
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Yeah there's absolutely no way they can reinforce this law. Unless they're going to declare a Nexus device illegal because it is "unlocked" -_-
The government needs to back off with what they're trying to do with all these tech laws. Obviously making laws to restrict cell phones is more important than fixing the government's budget, debt, foreign and national policies, education
Nobody cares. End of the day, just kind of do it anyway and I guarantee nothing will ever, ever happen to you.
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You care enough to make a reply to this thread? So it's obviously a big deal for you. Nothing will happen, but it's just funny to see what the law is trying to do.
I'd like to see them enforce this law. What they gonna do? Throw us in jail if we unlock the thing?
Well I remember when rooting and jailbreaking were declared legal in like 2006, whoopdy doo, you mean we can do whatever we want with our devices? Same situation now in that, legal or no, people will continue doing it.
Similar example: hackintoshing. It's illegal in that Apple can sue you for it, but they don't care about small people doing it, suing middle class or even lower class citizens for pennies on the dollar in a joke of a claim will only waste their money on legal fees and set a bad rep for picking on customers (hackintoshers often buy Magic Mice, Track pads, OSX itself and other Apple hardware/software for their setups).
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You care enough to make a reply to this thread? So it's obviously a big deal for you. Nothing will happen, but it's just funny to see what the law is trying to do.
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Yeah, taking twenty seconds to reply to a thread obviously makes it a big deal for me. Alright, I'll partake in the circlejerk.
omg like lol but they let apple phones be jailberken. American law so ridiculluss.
Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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I'm not in the US, but frankly, who gives a sh*t..
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Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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Exactly, good thing is it's illegal for carriers to sim lock phones in my country.
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Interesting that it says you can't even rip a CD if you are going to play it on a device without an optical drive. So will iTunes stop letting you rip CD' s to your iTunes account. Or will they let you rip it but block you from putting those songs onto your iPod, (or any other mp3 player).
If they do let me, and I ever got arrested, I'd try to get the DA to charge Apple as an accessory to the crime for not blocking me from doing it lol.
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Very funny, like megaupload thing and S.O.P.A.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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Carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked are two different things.
Even though I don't unlock my phone ever, this is silly. Aren't there more important things they should be concerning themselves with?
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Here in Brazil, every phone is sold unlocked. And if we get a locked one, the carrier may unlock it for free.
Actually is illegal to sell locked phones.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Even though I don't unlock my phone ever, this is silly. Aren't there more important things they should be concerning themselves with?
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So all of those roms in your signature, you have never flashed?
dedraks said:
Here in Brazil, every phone is sold unlocked. And if we get a locked one, the carrier may unlock it for free.
Actually is illegal to sell locked phones.
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Not what this thread is about.
So now I'll also feel the same heat from the fuzz about backing up my blue rays and DVDs to my htpc
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So all of those roms in your signature, you have never flashed?
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Not what this thread is about.
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The quote in the OP is referring to SIM unlocking not bootloader unlocking.
Well.. if this is the truth I'd be in jail for some time then
Stupid ****ing law if it were to pass. Not sure how they'd catch you.. I'd buy anything Google related anyway. Think America needs to worry about other issues besides gadgets. If I had the money to spend on a E-Flasher my ps3 would be down graded right now.
How dare you try to tell me what I can't and can do with MY device 'I' bought from you. If you want control over the product then **** you. I'll find something that don't want control and allow me to do whatever.
Just me though..
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People need to start being more proactive about voting some of these politicians out of office. Enough with sopa, pipa, etc.
In Germany there are no laws concerning that issue. However I assume that nobody cares, locked phones are (at least in Germany) usually sold with 2 year contracts - you can't get out of them (without paying a fine), so the carrier should give a sh*t on whether you use the services you pay for, or you pay twice to use other services.
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Here is an article about how rooting and jaikbreaking may legally come to an end in the near future.
www.noticeorange.com/StoryBody?id=4...RpY2VvcmFuZ2VyDQsSBFNpdGUY2ZLqAQw&font_size=9
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Looks like there is a petition to sign... Will this do any good?
Don't think it will stick. To many means to move information.
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Not really much of an article .... I'll believe it when someone more reputable writes about it.
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Not really much of an article .... I'll believe it when someone more reputable writes about it.
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How about the Electronic Freedom Foundation?
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/help-protect-gadget-jailbreakers-and-video-artists-legal-threats
Considering how many people root/jailbreak, s**t will hit the fan if this passes.
this crap will never pass and if it does we will see some real sh*t hit the streets just like the sopa and pipa crap pirates will never stop just like the internet will never rest is like a hydra cut one head two more come out.
I rooted before they ever will make it illegal, so what will I have to do. I "don't" know how to unjailbreak lol
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How about the Electronic Freedom Foundation?
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/help-protect-gadget-jailbreakers-and-video-artists-legal-threats
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Who?
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Would be a bummer to not be able to use our phones that we bought.
LOL - ha ha. Tried, just try to enforce it in India, China & a few other countries and see what happened.
With CDMA only devices, it might be easier to attempt a crackdown - but, GSM devices that are sim-based, forgetaboutit ...
If this happens, pigs can fly too.
Some instances of altering game consoles for pirate gaming could be understandable cause it does hurt the companies (not that they are in pain) but I don't know off hand of anything or anybody that is hurt by my phone being rooted. HTC is aware its being done and aside from voiding the warranty they have not started any criminal procedure that I know of. I don't see this happening but I doubt they could enforce it. Hell an American developer would only have to post thru a foreign board member. Seriously let's focus our legal money/manpower on real issues.
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Considering how many people root/jailbreak, s**t will hit the fan if this passes.
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Considering how many people use the internet, SOPA almost passed.
If this bill is real, there's a good chance it could get passed. Sure, lots of people root their phones, but in the grand scheme of things, considering how many people do -not- root their phones, the number of people who do is pretty minuscule.
Kinda like marijuana or alcohol. If it's legal, people are gonna do it legally. If they make it illegal, they'll do it illegally.
BTW, Apple tried this a few years back, it failed miserably.
Would there even be a way to know if someone rooted their cell? I'm not sure what would change if they couldn't...
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good thing HTC is being cool and providing a way to unlock their phones for us. can't be illegal if the manufacturer provides it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963058
How long till its phones?
Sign it please
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grassyloki said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963058
How long till its phones?
Sign it please
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That sucks. It personally doesn't effect me because this is US law and I live in Canada. Regardless, I am not a fan of this law and I am sure MANY people are going to be upset.
Remember that time an online petition changed the world? Man, that was awesome.
Oh wait, that never happened.
What exactly does this have to do with the galaxy s2?
I would read what was said below before going to crazy... some strong points are made
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Jesus H. Christ, this topic is so rooted (no pun intended) in profoundly gross ignorance it's saddening.
1.) Not a single thing pertaining to tablets has changed. Their status under the DMCA remains the same as it was in 2011 and 2010.
2) The proposed DMCA rejection of tablets was rejected not based upon "greater capabilities," but upon the fact that the EFF came with an overly broad and ill-defined definition of tablet.
3) The was no ruling on 28 October. Rather, 28 Oct was the date that the current DMCA exemptions went into effect after being published in the Federal Register on 26 October.
4) In and of itself, rooting a tablet is not illegal. Circumvention of DRM is what's prohibited by the DMCA. What went into effect on 28 Oct are five exemptions to this that will be in effect for the ensuing three years.
5) The Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 ship with unlockable bootloaders and an open source operating system. As such, unlocking and rooting are unactionable under the DMCA. Even though circumventing a locked bootloader on other tablets has always been "actionable," OEMs turn a blind eye to it as that's just the way the Android ecosystem is. Furthermore, the NTIA supported the exemption being extended to tablets, so I don't foresee anyone getting sued for it.
6) Playing fast and loose with terms such as "illegal" makes for great sensationalism, but it also paints this subject entirely out of context. No one has ever gone to jail for rooting a tablet, nor will they. It's entirely a civil matter and the OEMs don't have any incentive to sue anyone for rooting.
7) I have to laugh when I see the fuss about the Copyright Office, as they are not the entity responsible for DMCA exemptions. It is the Librarian of Congress that is tasked with the job. So, as others have said, sending a slacktivist petition to the Copyright Office and bombarding them with misinformed tweets really isn't going to do much good other than get you considered as a whack job.
8) For that matter, whining to the LoC isn't going to do any good, either. This is a process that is governed by statute and the LoC has to act within the scope of that. If you don't like the way things turned out this year, DMCA exemptions will be up for review again in 2015. I'd suggest you attend one of the many public hearings that lead up to the decision making. It's a rather open and transparent process with numerous public hearings and openings for comments in the 12 months preceding the final publishing of exemptions. Hopefully by then, we'll be able to give them a definition of tablet that also doesn't encompass PSPs, e-readers, and laptops
Finally, I would leave you with this bit of sage advice... please, please, please... educate yourself about a topic before having a knee-jerk "the sky is falling" reaction to that topic. I'll reiterate the simple fact that nothing at all has changed as it pertains to anything anyone does here. Things are today just as they were on 27 October 2012 or 2011.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
What exactly does this have to do with the galaxy s2?
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It starts with tablets then one day it will transition into phones
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I'll continue to use my hardware however I want to, illegal or not.
Joe USer said:
I'll continue to use my hardware however I want to, illegal or not.
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+1 I shelled out the cash for my phone, I'll use my phone or tablet any way I please!!
What are the penalties for having a rooted tablet? I seriously doubt the tablet police will come knocking at your door demanding to see your asus transformer tab or whatever
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Haha that would be funny if they did
Chochiwpg said:
That sucks. It personally doesn't effect me because this is US law and I live in Canada. Regardless, I am not a fan of this law and I am sure MANY people are going to be upset.
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Feels good to live in Canada right now.
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Feels good to live in Canada right now.
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Where you living Digital?
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Chochiwpg said:
Where you living Digital?
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Ottawa, you?
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DigitaL BlisS said:
Ottawa, you?
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Winnipeg
the police state is out of hand.
Today at a stop sign an old man was stalled at the 4 way stop, a very popular intersection. Everyone was stopping to ask the old man if he needed help. He said no and was on his cell phone.
Down the road cops were stopping people, I didn't think much of it.
Came back to the intersection hours later and realized the same old man was on his cell phone.
He was an undercover cop or snitch telling the cops who didn't have a damn seat belt on and they were handing out $170 tickets.
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the police state is out of hand.
Today at a stop sign an old man was stalled at the 4 way stop, a very popular intersection. Everyone was stopping to ask the old man if he needed help. He said no and was on his cell phone.
Down the road cops were stopping people, I didn't think much of it.
Came back to the intersection hours later and realized the same old man was on his cell phone.
He was an undercover cop or snitch telling the cops who didn't have a damn seat belt on and they were handing out $170 tickets.
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Ah ha lol good one
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What are the penalties for having a rooted tablet? I seriously doubt the tablet police will come knocking at your door demanding to see your asus transformer tab or whatever
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^ This. Except I'm not at your mom's house.
This would be about as enforceable as pirating media. Not that I would ever do that.
Well that sucks but it is a little confusing since didn't like a year or so ago a judge determine that jailbreaking an iPhone what is not illegal. So then its only illegal if it's a tablet. Not that it matters because I will continue rooting my devices and using it how I want
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Joe USer said:
I'll continue to use my hardware however I want to, illegal or not.
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I paid monry for my tablet. I will root it in another country if I must. In case rooting does get banned, it is likely only the act of rooting, not using a rooted device, that will be illegal. So root it in another country, and you will be fully fine.
www.androidauthority.com/htc-takes-down-rom-files-across-the-web-150757/
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This seems to be really poor timing on HTCs part, as they are trying to rebuild a public positive image, regain market share.
Killing this kind of resource is only shooting themselves in the foot. It pisses off the geeks that would otherwise give them good recommendations and reviews.
This kind of website costs HTC no money, incurred no losses. And, imho, actually Saves them money (in man hours) for tech support, as XDA does.
Foolish, HTC. Hope you're reading this.
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This seems to be really poor timing on HTCs part, as they are trying to rebuild a public positive image, regain market share.
Killing this kind of resource is only shooting themselves in the foot. It pisses off the geeks that would otherwise give them good recommendations and reviews.
This kind of website costs HTC no money, incurred no losses. And, imho, actually Saves them money (in man hours) for tech support, as XDA does.
Foolish, HTC. Hope you're reading this.
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It is probably tied to DMCA a lot of changes in the law happen tomorrow.
http://phandroid.com/2013/01/24/unlocking-phones-illegal/
That enforced my decision of no more htc devices
I was just thinking of posting this.
Well if its just the unlocking thing id never buy an unlicked phone.....those prices are crazy. Lol. I wish cell companies would be more accepting of the dev community. ...I mean half of their fixes come from there lol
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neopolotin75 said:
Well if its just the unlocking thing id never buy an unlicked phone.....those prices are crazy. Lol. I wish cell companies would be more accepting of the dev community. ...I mean half of their fixes come from there lol
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That isn't what the OP is about...it is about HTC issuing DMCA takedowns and then domain seizures of websites that host HTC firmwares and ROMs....meaning XDA might get punked.
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It is probably tied to DMCA a lot of changes in the law happen tomorrow.
http://phandroid.com/2013/01/24/unlocking-phones-illegal/
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No it is not. It still perfectly legal to jailbreak/root and ROM you phone. That law is specifically about carrier unlocking.
Lol I know what the op is about I posted it... I was referring to the law affecting unlocking phones and switching carriers. :thumbup:
Oops should hit the quote again
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Lol I know what the op is about I posted it... I was referring to the law affecting unlocking phones and switching carriers. :thumbup:
Oops should hit the quote again
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My bad
BTW it doesn't matter if you don't switch carriers, and just unlock your phone. Unlocking your handset without the branded carrier's permission is easily grounds for ETF and being kicked from said carrier if not getting legal action brought against you. For example, the SIM mod being worked on to allow us Sprint users to use GSM towers with a 3rd part SIM card is illegal on any phone purchased after tomorrow....as you are technically unlocking the phone. You can still have your Sprint contract and Sprint service, but that mod is illegal as of tomorrow on any phone purchased starting tomorrow.
AAMOF, that SIM card mod thread will probably be deleted and disappeared before too long.
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My bad
BTW it doesn't matter if you don't switch carriers, and just unlock your phone. Unlocking your handset without the branded carrier's permission is easily grounds for ETF and being kicked from said carrier if not getting legal action brought against you. For example, the SIM mod being worked on to allow us Sprint users to use GSM towers with a 3rd part SIM card is illegal on any phone purchased after tomorrow....as you are technically unlocking the phone. You can still have your Sprint contract and Sprint service, but that mod is illegal as of tomorrow on any phone purchased starting tomorrow.
AAMOF, that SIM card mod thread will probably be deleted and disappeared before too long.
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So that means it's legal for us since we purchased it before it's illegal
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i think this has happened a while back (with HTC also). they took down a website that hosted tons of old htc roms, some unmodded. it was a pretty popular site here. wish i could remember the details.
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So that means it's legal for us since we purchased it before it's illegal
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That is how I read it. But I am not a lawyer.
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Suddenly even happier I opted to get a note 2 instead of getting a new screen for my ltevo.
Ok I ordered a new glass *also*, but now it's just going to be a garage music player, google, and obd2 scanner device, or maybe a netflix / "smart tv" box for the bedroom. What will not be is my phone that gets carried around and seen doing neat stuff.
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My first htc device the Hero also the last htc device I purchased. Thank goodness I went with Samsung since the s2> s3> gn2
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I am so happy they are shooting themselves in the foot like in Blazing Saddles. It makes me so giddy! I dumped htc 4 years ago. Last device I bought was the tp2. I was so disgusted how poorly it ran and how the xv6700 out performed it. Plus remember the whole htc missing drivers deal? That set my hair on fire. I said to myself. ... "nat juan moar penny shall this dirty hor get fro thy!". Ever since I have been only buying samsung. Now I can actually rub my phones in apple fans faces. With htc, I was embarrassed to take it or if anyone had aiphone nearby. Thxs samsung.
I came across this article. in my opinion if i bought my phone i should be allowed to do whatever I want... anyone disagree? Glad I unlocked my tmo sensation for my daughter on at&t before this went into effect..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013_n_2585502.html
iIl still be unlocking thou haha what are the chances of them finding out? Downloading movies and music is illegal and? ..people still do it xD crappy laws...
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What I guess they are getting at with the law is yes you own the hardware but do not own the software that runs on it. Only license it from the manufacturer and there for should not be allowed to change the software you don't own.
This law is also only effecting phones purchased after october and you can still unlock your phone you just need to have the carrier unlock it is all.
What is supposedly illegal is hacking the software to unlock it (like they can catch you) or getting a unlock code from a online provider other then your carrier / manufacturer.
I think it is dumb though. I bet Apple had a hand it in. Getting upset people were getting the carrier version of the iPhone and paying less and hacking to unlock it rather then paying a insane amount for the unlocked version.
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I came across this article. in my opinion if i bought my phone i should be allowed to do whatever I want... anyone disagree? Glad I unlocked my tmo sensation for my daughter on at&t before this went into effect..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013_n_2585502.html
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Lol I bought a gun... Doesn't mean I can shoot whomever/wherever I want... Bought a car that goes 150 but can't drive that fast... Bought a computer but can't hack gov't websites...
Just because I buy something doesnt mean I can do whatever I want with it. Ppl are really making too big of a deal about this unlocking bit...
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Lol I bought a gun... Doesn't mean I can shoot whomever/wherever I want... Bought a car that goes 150 but can't drive that fast... Bought a computer but can't hack gov't websites...
Just because I buy something doesnt mean I can do whatever I want with it. Ppl are really making too big of a deal about this unlocking bit...
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All of those affect other people. Murder/assault is committing an act of violence against somebody without cause (can't claim self defense). Excessive speeding has great potential to kill other people on the road when you either slam into them because they are going normal speed vs your double speed or you lose control of your vehicle and slam into another. "Hacking" into somebody else's computer is an violates their right to privacy. That computer is their property and they have a right to be safe and secure when it comes to their property and belongings.
I understand your point, but YOU own your phone (assuming you paid for it and its not leased). You flashing your phone for another carrier and installing a custom ROM and using free software does not violate anybody else's rights to anything.
By your reckoning, do you think the government should be able to enforce a law for example that forces men to sit down to urinate? Either you are your own person and own your property or you don't.
Let's say a person with bad intentions gets an unlocked phone... With numerous different sim cards running through it from different carriers... You mean to tell me no harm can be done with that? It doesn't have potential to obstruct police investigations, locate kidnapped people, etc?
If you purchase an american flag, can you legally burn it? Hell can u leave it out in a rain storm? If you have cash that u earned, did u know its illegal to rip, burn, or even write on it? But its yours right?
Maybe it doesn't, but that's how I look at it. And everyone that has a phone already can unlock it if they want... Its just for new buyers which is why I don't see what the big deal is. How many people really unlock their phones? Less than 1% of cell phone users? Idk just think its a big fuss about a falling sky over nothing.
And BTW... I may not HAVE to sit/stand to urinate... But there are restrictions of where I urinate (if that's relevant)
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Apparently a couple of people are confused regarding ownership. Yes, you own your phone. No, you do not own the software or firmware on the phone. You own a licence to use the software and firmware. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but that is how it works.
Hope that helps.
Sooo....if android is open source...i can flash another custom rom and unlocked it...no broken laws there right? lol
Did you pay full retail or was your phone subsidized?
Also to be clear. It is not breaking this law to root the phone or install custom software. That is still the same.
The law is only concerning the carrier lock on the sim card.
So you can flash as many roms and stuff as you want as that won't effect sim locks. But if you modify the firmware to remove the sim card lock then that would be a violation of this law.
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Sooo....if android is open source...i can flash another custom rom and unlocked it...no broken laws there right? lol
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If you unlock it without the carriers approval you are breaking the law. If somehow you can write all the firmware, drivers, modems, etc from scratch along with a ROM that does not contain any lines of code from the carrier you may be able to go that route.
Being how most of us have Tmobile it's a non-issue anyway because T-mobile is very friendly regarding unlocking.
Fisrt we own the phone no one owns the softwear its open source, qualcomm has relased the source code for there drivers the only prob is the federal government is full of crooks but thats not here nor there. So anways why cant we unlock what is ours and open to us you tell me the carriers or the makers of the phone
Its just a bunch of stupid laws... all they want is new ways to keep spying on peoples privacy...example like wt. FB...
Fck the crooked system. It's my phone.
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This is an equivalence of purchasing digital media. The consumer may have purchased the digital media but they have no right to distribute the content unless they have permission from the distributor(s). Unlocking a phone (illegally) means the consumer is distributing the phone without the carrier's consistency.
I still signed the petition that's against the passing of the law anyways.
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Pretty much trying to cut out the middle men in order to squeeze out the more money they can from Those online places or doing it yourself way. for example my girl has an iphone I would like to bring her to tmobile since she doesn't have att anymore. If I was a casual user I would be scared of "breaking" the law and trying to unlock online so I'm out of luck. Hence forcing to buy a phone from them. pretty soon they are going to force us buying warranty on tvs and such for our "sake" .
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And stating only 1% of people unlock their phones is pretty ridiculous especially without any basis.
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I agree with the post that states tmobile is friendly for unlocking...i got my unlock code for my sensation in less than a day....but whatever...say what thay say.
GalaxyS3Guy said:
If you purchase an american flag, can you legally burn it? Hell can u leave it out in a rain storm? If you have cash that u earned, did u know its illegal to rip, burn, or even write on it? But its yours right?
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IMO you can burn it if you want, but don't be an idiot and display yourself burning it to the public lol.
daxecutioner24 said:
Pretty much trying to cut out the middle men in order to squeeze out the more money they can from Those online places or doing it yourself way. for example my girl has an iphone I would like to bring her to tmobile since she doesn't have att anymore. If I was a casual user I would be scared of "breaking" the law and trying to unlock online so I'm out of luck. Hence forcing to buy a phone from them. pretty soon they are going to force us buying warranty on tvs and such for our "sake" .
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And stating only 1% of people unlock their phones is pretty ridiculous especially without any basis.
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Since Obama-Care was upheld the government can now force you to buy anything they feel like. Hold onto your wallet and next time around be sure to vote for those that prefer freedom and allow you the ability to purchase what you want instead of being ordered to do so.
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Since Obama-Care was upheld the government can now force you to buy anything they feel like. Hold onto your wallet and next time around be sure to vote for those that prefer freedom and allow you the ability to purchase what you want instead of being ordered to do so.
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Yeah Ok... Cool story... XDA probably isn't the place for your uneducated political propaganda. Let's stick to phone talk
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I have been reading that Carriers are bloquing note 7 in New Zeland.
Is there any way around this? I have been reading something about the matter and it seems the carrier blocks when the see in the imei and id that your phone sends in every call.
This being the case, could it be the solution charging imei and id in the phone so every time you make a call the carrier thinks is another phone completely?
Does anyone know anything about this?
My phone is working perfectly and under no circunstances i want to return it
Thanks in advance
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u can try imei changer apps which are available at free in google play store. it will change imei number only. i myself have same plan in case i face blacklisting.
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Edit: I sincerely apologize for above suggestion (changing imei) & withdraw it.
Good morning. You dont have such apps on google play. Changing Imei its a crime punished by law.
Thank you
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jopa7 said:
Good morning. You dont have such apps on google play. Changing Imei its a crime punished by law.
Thank you
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Yes, as is piracy and illegal download of contents and most people do it.
In this case i understand this is because illegal use of phones for criminal purposes, which we can agree is not the case here.
I been looking and there seems many programs that do this. Good news for the ones planing on keeping this amazing machine.
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Everyone needs to move on from note 7: it is dead. Blocking is occurring and just a matter of short time before all phones are rendered useless.
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markwebb said:
Everyone needs to move on from note 7: it is dead. Blocking is occurring and just a matter of short time before all phones are rendered useless.
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Why are you here?
I just woke up to an update that limits my charge to 60% I have the Sprint variant. I'm pissed. Real pissed.
markwebb said:
Everyone needs to move on from note 7: it is dead. Blocking is occurring and just a matter of short time before all phones are rendered useless.
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I wasnt going to return it since my phone is working flawesly and apart the fact that is the best phone hands down and its also the phone that suits my specific every day needs ...
But reading how MARKWEBB does recomend otherwise, i will of course return it right away.
I mean, thank you mate, you just made me realize that all that factors i thought i handnt really at all.
Such wisdom and insight is something to behold.
Samsung? Yeah, i want to replace this time bomb disguised as a phone you sold me.
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Sleepycloud said:
I just woke up to an update that limits my charge to 60% I have the Sprint variant. I'm pissed. Real pissed.
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Dont worry same here . Just install custom rom and you are ready to go
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jal3223 said:
Why are you here?
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My thought exactly. I just don't understand one thing. The Need!
The need people have to wake up in the morning, come to a note 7 forum and post dumb sh1t like that. Go back to sleep.
Sleepycloud said:
I just woke up to an update that limits my charge to 60% I have the Sprint variant. I'm pissed. Real pissed.
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Yeah a few of us are in the same boat from this AM
kingtiamath said:
Dont worry same here . Just install custom rom and you are ready to go
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I wish I could. Im on Snappy D.
jal3223 said:
Why are you here?
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Why are you here?
Ryland Johnson said:
Why are you here?
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I still own the phone, so I am still on this sub-forum. For those that do not own the phone but find it their duty to come here with the sole purpose to convince others that they should return it seems a little crazy to me. Looking at you too Ryland. [emoji6]
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Yes, as is piracy and illegal download of contents and most people do it.
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Word of advice. Discussing IMEI spoofing and changing is against XDA's TOS (as are the other things above BTW). Posting about it will get you warned or banned depending on the mod.
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I still own the phone, so I am still on this sub-forum. For those that do not own the phone but find it their duty to come here with the sole purpose to convince others that they should return it seems a little crazy to me. Looking at you too Ryland. [emoji6]
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Do your research. I have made it crystal clear I dislike the nanny state and that I would fight for your freedom to own this mobile.
I find it odd that just a handful of posters here still shout from the roof tops about their freedoms yet try so hard to stifle freedom of posting on this forum? Double standards to write the least!
I owned two of the Note 7's, best mobile I have ever owned. Was difficult to return them. I miss the mobile very much as there is zero to replace it. I fully understand why owners desire to keep this mobile, one would be crazy not to want to own a Note 7.
Where I part ways with a tiny % of posters if where they start to debate how best to smuggle a note 7 on board an aircraft. That is not funny, not to be laughed at. THAT is when an owner starts to deny the freedoms and safety of others and that is an act of selfishness also breaking the law (the law part doesn't bother me either, its the act of selfishness that's bugs me).
To repeat. One should not be told what to keep, its a persons legally purchased phone. What an owner has to do in their quest for freedom is respect other peoples freedoms. I have zero problem with some one owning a Note 7, why would I?
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BarryH_GEG said:
Word of advice. Discussing IMEI spoofing and changing is against XDA's TOS (as are the other things above BTW). Posting about it will get you warned or banned depending on the mod.
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There are several threads that are against the XDA regulations. That is bad enough but what is worse is that XDA has, to date, enjoyed a very good reputation in the world of forum posting. At present XDA is doing itself zero favours by allowing threads that encourage the exchange of information that is illegal. Not our problem though.
Ryland :highfive:
Ryland Johnson said:
Do your research. I have made it crystal clear I dislike the nanny state and that I would fight for your freedom to own this mobile.
I find it odd that just a handful of posters here still shout from the roof tops about their freedoms yet try so hard to stifle freedom of posting on this forum? Double standards to write the least!
I owned two of the Note 7's, best mobile I have ever owned. Was difficult to return them. I miss the mobile very much as there is zero to replace it. I fully understand why owners desire to keep this mobile, one would be crazy not to want to own a Note 7.
Where I part ways with a tiny % of posters if where they start to debate how best to smuggle a note 7 on board an aircraft. That is not funny, not to be laughed at. THAT is when an owner starts to deny the freedoms and safety of others and that is an act of selfishness also breaking the law (the law part doesn't bother me either, its the act of selfishness that's bugs me).
To repeat. One should not be told what to keep, its a persons legally purchased phone. What an owner has to do in their quest for freedom is respect other peoples freedoms. I have zero problem with some one owning a Note 7, why would I?
Ryland
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True, I can respect this viewpoint. I haven't really saw any talk of someone trying to smuggle the phone on an airplane or anything, but I do understand where you are coming from. I was being a bit stifling to the ones with a different opinion than mine I suppose. My apologies.
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True, I can respect this viewpoint. I haven't really saw any talk of someone trying to smuggle the phone on an airplane or anything, but I do understand where you are coming from. I was being a bit stifling to the ones with a different opinion than mine I suppose. My apologies.
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No problems. This is a forum. We should have different views if we didn't no need for a forum?! Providing we are all tolerant of another's point of view I think forums are healthy and one can learn an awful lot.
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Sleepycloud said:
I just woke up to an update that limits my charge to 60% I have the Sprint variant. I'm pissed. Real pissed.
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kingtiamath said:
Dont worry same here . Just install custom rom and you are ready to go
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Well crap, I'm in Ohio, wonder when I will see this "update" My phone states it hasn't received an update Since September 1rst....
Worse come to worse, and I return this, will the recall and bonuses for returning be voided if we ROOT this thing?
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^^^^
That's what I was thinking, but still.....(And thats all I'm going to say on that...)
On a lighter topic, how will airlines know what phone you bring on? I'm sure dozens have been in the air since the ban. I'm sure right this very minute there are dozens flying the friendly skies. You place it in an xray machine. Unless the agent recognizes the x-ray view of this phone or they have somehow programmed an algorithm to flag potential Note 7's from the x-rays then they will not know. I'm going to buy an iPhone case (just in case) to shove my phone into and place an apple sticker on it..just to be sure.... :silly:
broderp said:
Well crap, I'm in Ohio, wonder when I will see this "update" My phone states it hasn't received an update Since September 1rst....
Worse come to worse, and I return this, will the recall and bonuses for returning be voided if we ROOT this thing?
Turn off automatic update! Do not take the update! You can not revert. I tried already. ODIN will fail.
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broderp said:
Well crap, I'm in Ohio, wonder when I will see this "update" My phone states it hasn't received an update Since September 1rst....
Worse come to worse, and I return this, will the recall and bonuses for returning be voided if we ROOT this thing?
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No, they don't care about anything except that you return the device.