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Put The Pressure On Sprint Don't Settle

Ok spoke to sprint for 2 hrs today about LOS.... "Recorded all calls"
Hung up on 4 times while i was on hold while they research issue
Told to sell phone back to sprint "oh yea...Uh no!"
I am not giving you 2 months of credit "yes you are"
Account Services: Nothing i can do we don't issue credits "don't lie to me"
17 mintues in call "account services" says: I can give you $36 "i don't think so"
Call Samsung since they made the phone "nope try again"
We have nothing to do with the device "The name of the store was Sprint"
Im not going to loose my job over you "understandable but i really don't care"
Take it to the store "why if they all are defective"
Im not going to do this that or the other and etc....... "manager please and not someone who just takes escalations.
RESULTS "Time to get tough"
I want out of my contract do to local lemon laws and horrible
treatment from customer service.
Manager understood after i broke it down technically to him about the phone issues and asked what do you want "I've already told you!!"
Contract terminated "released from contract" Still have phone and service of course.
"not fixed in a month will call for credits" <----You have to play hard ball with Sprint...Calling 100 times is easier than checking your phone for LOS every few minutes
Mission Statement:
PUT THE PRESSURE ON SPRINT GUYS..DO NOT LET THEM RIP YOU OFF! IF YOU HAVE LOS ITS NOT ACCEPTABLE..I WAS PREPARED TO CALL 100 TIMES. HOW FAR ARE YOU READY TO GO????? do not speak to anyone but account services

Sprint is already aware and working on a fix. There are people here working on it as well. Shut up about it already.
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clamknuckle said:
Sprint is already aware and working on a fix. There are people here working on it as well. Shut up about it already.
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clamknuckle said:
Sprint is already aware and working on a fix. There are people here working on it as well. Shut up about it already.
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Samsprint's been "working" on gingerbread for Epic 4G for months now. I believe if it's cost efficient in Sprint's favor to simply fix the problem, it's better of we annoy them to an extent.

Funny, I thought Sprint was the carrier and Samsung was the Manufacturer.
My mistake.
Carriers don't make updates/fixes they just test/approve them and release them.
Put the pressure on Samsung. That will get results, hopefully.

Overstew said:
Samsprint's been "working" on gingerbread for Epic 4G for months now. I believe if it's cost efficient in Sprint's favor to simply fix the problem, it's better of we annoy them to an extent.
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So has XDA. Its obviously an issue with that phone and an entirely different matter all together.
OP if you want to waste that much of your time and energy on something that will soon be fixed, either by the devs here or Sprint/Samsung, feel free. Just don't expect us sane rational people not to troll you.
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OP got out of his contract, so that's a win... but yeah it'll be fixed soon.

mattykinsx said:
Funny, I thought Sprint was the carrier and Samsung was the Manufacturer.
My mistake.
Carriers don't make updates/fixes they just test/approve them and release them.
Put the pressure on Samsung. That will get results, hopefully.
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Werd.
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mattykinsx said:
Funny, I thought Sprint was the carrier and Samsung was the Manufacturer.
My mistake.
Carriers don't make updates/fixes they just test/approve them and release them.
Put the pressure on Samsung. That will get results, hopefully.
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Your phone is under warranty through sprint for the first yr. You go through sprint before you contact the manufacturer. Sprint cannot afford to take escalations for every LOS. As well as the credits issued and contracts cancelled for something they sold and provide service for. Therefore they will demand Samsung to fix the issue. Or if Samsung has fixed the issue, they will demand quality to release a patch "yesterday". Worst case scenario if Sprint cannot resolve customers mass number of complaints they will recall the phone, issue refunds, or do exchanges.

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So has XDA. Its obviously an issue with that phone and an entirely different matter all together.
OP if you want to waste that much of your time and energy on something that will soon be fixed, either by the devs here or Sprint/Samsung, feel free. Just don't expect us sane rational people not to troll you.
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Werd again...
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clamknuckle said:
So has XDA. Its obviously an issue with that phone and an entirely different matter all together.
OP if you want to waste that much of your time and energy on something that will soon be fixed, either by the devs here or Sprint/Samsung, feel free. Just don't expect us sane rational people not to troll you.
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Well with my free service and no contract, I don't mind waiting. I was just helping others to see the same satisfaction and quicker response from Sprint/Samsung..When i get a LOS now, i can laugh about it because i am not paying for it!

If you don't find my post helpful than why respond. I got satisfaction. My job is to help others to get the same.
Now i can leave this post for anyone who finds it useful....
Your Welcome,
Me

doesnt affect me when on stock rom.....
so id say get a replacement or another phone???? I hear good things about the evo 3d and photon

churro7 said:
doesnt affect me when on stock rom.....
so id say get a replacement or another phone???? I hear good things about the evo 3d and photon
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Only happens once in a while for me...My idea was to have everyone join together and get a quicker fix..I am out of a contract and free service...Im great!!! I just like to share to try to help others. But this is America...Half agree, other half don't.

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Uh no, no it is not. Your phone is under (pause for keyword here...) "MANUFACTURER'S" warranty for one year. Manufacturer in this case is Samsung, aka the party responsible for FIXING this issue. The reason people go through Sprint before they go to Samsung for their warranty is because they have too high of a sense of self-entitlement and/or are too arrogant to read their user manual which clearly states a contact number for Samsung, not Sprint, under the warranty section. Sprint would never recall this phone for an issue that some people are having. Quite frankly if I were the overseeing supervisor in your case, I would've told you to direct your frustrations at Samsung and never have let you out of contract. As a consumer, do some research before picking up a product if you aren't willing to take the risk of having defects which WILL be fixed. This phone hasn't even received its first patch yet, and you've already cost Sprint valuable network expansion dollars to give you something you didn't deserve by throwing a temper tantrum. Grow up and stop ruining things for everyone else by shoving around the wrong people.
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Let me guess your work on Wall Street as well...
Send your phone off to Samsung and please let us know when you get the same phone back in the same packaging you sent it in. Should take 2-3 days for you to get your package back, so be patient.
Thanks

Just so people aren't confused. This post has nothing to do with the Wall Street guy above. I provided information on what Sprint did for me as a customer, do to LOS issues. Hope some will find satisfaction in reaching out to them for the lack of service you have had. If you had great service no issues...Cool!
Thanks,
ME

I'm in love with the concept that if you have anything to say about anything [that isn't negative toward a carrier] you must either be an employee or a "fan boy"
Seriously? Go **** yourself with that nonsense.
Samsung makes the phone. It's a great phone.
Samsung is KNOWN for slow updates NO MATTER WHAT CARRIER THE PHONE IS ON
You can pressure Sprint all you want, it's not going to change who is actually responsible for updates and fixes.

"Carriers don't make updates/fixes they just test/approve them and release them."
So is sprint fault too bc they have to test the phones first and looks like they are not.

dmora01 said:
"Carriers don't make updates/fixes they just test/approve them and release them."
So is sprint fault too bc they have to test the phones first and looks like they are not.
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Who said Sprint doesn't have some blame?
They do test the phones.
But *****ing at Sprint for the LOS issue in some vain attempt to get the issue fixed faster is like *****ing to Best Buy because the iPhone 4 has that antenna issue

mattykinsx said:
Who said Sprint doesn't have some blame?
They do test the phones.
But *****ing at Sprint for the LOS issue in some vain attempt to get the issue fixed faster is like *****ing to Best Buy because the iPhone 4 has that antenna issue
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Your dad would roll over in his grave and be very disappointed in you with your profanity kid.

Sprint Help

I do have this posted in the main Q&A section but I could really use the help so I figured since I have this phone maybe one of my E4GT friends could help.
Does anyone know of, is anyone here, or can someone put me in contact with an understanding Sprint Retentions Agent? Or even an elevated agent?
I just moved and drop calls like crazy. Frequently have 1 bar and rarely any 3G. I have the Airave, but it is about as reliable as a squirt gun in a gun fight between a clown and an armed assassin.
I've been with sprint for 3 ish years and have paid my bill in full every month. I used to love sprint, and I'd love to stay but this network is really bad at my new home, and this isn't because I want a new phone either... I have a GS2 and am a decent part of helping on the dev scene when o can.
I've been in contact with one agent whom I've been emailing, but I'm pretty sure he hates his job, life, and his wife is sleeping with his brother... He is very evasive in my questions and quite frankly, rude.
I understand you might feel uncomfortable posting here with your contacts, however if you could PM me any info it would be overwhelmingly appreciated. Thanks for your time!

pyrostic said:
I do have this posted in the main Q&A section but I could really use the help so I figured since I have this phone maybe one of my E4GT friends could help.
Does anyone know of, is anyone here, or can someone put me in contact with an understanding Sprint Retentions Agent? Or even an elevated agent?
I just moved and drop calls like crazy. Frequently have 1 bar and rarely any 3G. I have the Airave, but it is about as reliable as a squirt gun in a gun fight between a clown and an armed assassin.
I've been with sprint for 3 ish years and have paid my bill in full every month. I used to love sprint, and I'd love to stay but this network is really bad at my new home, and this isn't because I want a new phone either... I have a GS2 and am a decent part of helping on the dev scene when o can.
I've been in contact with one agent whom I've been emailing, but I'm pretty sure he hates his job, life, and his wife is sleeping with his brother... He is very evasive in my questions and quite frankly, rude.
I understand you might feel uncomfortable posting here with your contacts, however if you could PM me any info it would be overwhelmingly appreciated. Thanks for your time!
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By all means I am not trying to persuay you any way, have you tried to flash a different modem? I wish I had a contact for you but I don't.

Call Sprint. Tell them you don't get great service at home and you know "someone," who got an Airwave free of charge and there ya go. Worked for me twice so far.
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g_ding84 said:
By all means I am not trying to persuay you any way, have you tried to flash a different modem? I wish I had a contact for you but I don't.
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I've tried a lot of different things. the next on my agenda if I can't get sprint to agree on something with me will have to force my prl
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jonathanclary said:
Call Sprint. Tell them you don't get great service at home and you know "someone," who got an Airwave free of charge and there ya go. Worked for me twice so far.
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He has the airave. I'm in the same boat, sprint used to be awesome for me and now the service sucks. I'm on the roam-like-a-crazy-person plan to termination without ETF. I've called sprint. I've even called their roaming department. They didn't care and told me that I might as well keep roaming because they can't manually term my contract even though it definitely qualifies for excessive roaming termination by their rules. They said "corporate" has to target me. Who is corporate? I thought that the roaming department would be, evidently not. Good luck!
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I've tried a lot of different things. the next on my agenda if I can't get sprint to agree on something with me will have to force my prl
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If you get them to agree to something reasonable please post it here... it'd definitely help me.

epdp14 said:
He has the airave. I'm in the same boat, sprint used to be awesome for me and now the service sucks. I'm on the roam-like-a-crazy-person plan to termination without ETF. I've called sprint. I've even called their roaming department. They didn't care and told me that I might as well keep roaming because they can't manually term my contract even though it definitely qualifies for excessive roaming termination by their rules. They said "corporate" has to target me. Who is corporate? I thought that the roaming department would be, evidently not. Good luck!
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If you get them to agree to something reasonable please post it here... it'd definitely help me.
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Will do... like you see above I'm trying to get hold of someone with balls, an understanding of my situation, and the ability to help.
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I believe its [email protected] they are the escalation team in headquarters. Email them.
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patrao_n said:
I believe its [email protected] they are the escalation team in headquarters. Email them.
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[email protected]? That is the CEO you know?
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pyrostic said:
[email protected]? That is the CEO you know?
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It's [email protected] The other one might work too, but idk.
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I just realized that we are both in Illinois... I wonder if they've screwed up their network here more than other places?

I'm in streamwood. Where are you?
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pyrostic said:
I'm in streamwood. Where are you?
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Peoria

I grew up in eastern Iowa. Peoria is a nice town
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I usually am a PITA as opposed to a help in these sprint threads but I'll turn things around here and offer a useful suggestion... I've been on sprint for like 12 years now, why? I don't know as my service is terrible but I dislike everything about att and Verizon so I stay... that said of course I've had my issues with them over they years and in my experance their customer service went from great to god awful sometime around the launch of the og evo 4g... in the past I've resorted to some deep Googling to find the number for "sprint executive services" department... it is a department in sprint corporate not affiliated with their regular cs depertments and actually has both the authority to resolve situations for you and extremely competent reps... basically the two or three times I've resorted to calling the rep that answers handles your issue all the way to its conclusion, they ask about your problem, research it for a day or two and then call back with the solutions they are able to offer. In short these people are awesome and directly responsible for me still being on sprint. I wish I had a number to give you but to my knowledge it changes all the time, so I doubt the one I have from a year ago still works... I've always been able to find them when necessary online though... it won't be an 800 number, which further shows how much they don't want to be contacted! Not sure if regular reps would be able to transfer you to them, I've never tried but I very much doubt it... good luck with it OP, this is the top and most competent department I've ever found within sprint...
Edit: I just did a search and found it listed as 1-866-398-4606 these days, which is not at all what I reached them at but is probably worth a try... its also possible they've gutted the department since the people there were good at their jobs, and that apperently is a bad thing in the world of sprint cs
Further Edit: according to this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618335 ) thread the old consumerist provided number (http://consumerist.com/2009/05/reach-executive-customer-service-for-sprint-verizon-t-mobile-att.html) apparently still works, its 703-433-4401 and these people f'ing rock at problem solving and offering reasonable solutions, try them first
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cp320703 said:
I usually am a PITA as opposed to a help in these sprint threads but I'll turn things around here and offer a useful suggestion... I've been on sprint for like 12 years now, why? I don't know as my service is terrible but I dislike everything about att and Verizon so I stay... that said of course I've had my issues with them over they years and in my experance their customer service went from great to god awful sometime around the launch of the og evo 4g... in the past I've resorted to some deep Googling to find the number for "sprint executive services" department... it is a department in sprint corporate not affiliated with their regular cs depertments and actually has both the authority to resolve situations for you and extremely competent reps... basically the two or three times I've resorted to calling the rep that answers handles your issue all the way to its conclusion, they ask about your problem, research it for a day or two and then call back with the solutions they are able to offer. In short these people are awesome and directly responsible for me still being on sprint. I wish I had a number to give you but to my knowledge it changes all the time, so I doubt the one I have from a year ago still works... I've always been able to find them when necessary online though... it won't be an 800 number, which further shows how much they don't want to be contacted! Not sure if regular reps would be able to transfer you to them, I've never tried but I very much doubt it... good luck with it OP, this is the top and most competent department I've ever found within sprint...
Edit: I just did a search and found it listed as 1-866-398-4606 these days, which is not at all what I reached them at but is probably worth a try... its also possible they've gutted the department since the people there were good at their jobs, and that apperently is a bad thing in the world of sprint cs
Further Edit: according to this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618335 ) thread the old consumerist provided number (http://consumerist.com/2009/05/reach-executive-customer-service-for-sprint-verizon-t-mobile-att.html) apparently still works, its 703-433-4401 and these people f'ing rock at problem solving and offering reasonable solutions, try them first
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Thanks for all the help and research. I actually just emailed [email protected] last night (supposed to be the same group) if not I'll give a call to the number you have provided. Thanks.
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I usually don't condone doing this (well I don't at all). But when corporate money hungry capitalist monsters want to screw you out of your hard earned money, I believe you should fight fire with nuclear weapons.
Torrents will get you booted pretty quick without an etf.
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gilbydakid said:
I usually don't condone doing this (well I don't at all). But when corporate money hungry capitalist monsters want to screw you out of your hard earned money, I believe you should fight fire with nuclear weapons.
Torrents will get you booted pretty quick without an etf.
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If that's what it takes in the end I might have a reason to do it. I'll know by July 30th
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pyrostic said:
If that's what it takes in the end I might have a reason to do it. I'll know by July 30th
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What happens July 30th?

Hats when corporate should be getting a hold of me again. Letting me know if I'll get out of my contract.
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change of terms
i had the chance to break out a few months ago when they changed how they applied corporate discounts to family plans. they gave me a free upgrade if i didn't leave (i went from the Evo 4G to the Galaxy S2).
i seriously regret not leaving. service in los angeles is awful. voice is fine but data is S L O W as can be.
every time you log into the sprint site to pay your bill or whatever, check the announcements. hopefully they'll make another change that will let you out.

pyrostic said:
Hats when corporate should be getting a hold of me again. Letting me know if I'll get out of my contract.
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Do you have a copy of the email you sent to them?

Unlocking Smartphones Illegal

Unlocking smartphones: Illegal
That’s right — unlocking your smartphone so you can take it to another wireless carrier will soon be illegal, unless authorized by your carrier. This, despite the fact that the Register has allowed unlocking since 2006.
There are some exceptions to this rule — but they aren’t worth cheering for. Specifically, you may unlock any phone you own now, or buy between now and “ninety days after the effective date of this exemption.” As of January 2013, however, unlocking your device without permission is decidedly against the law.
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Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...-be-illegal-and-other-new-dmca-rule-insanity/
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Kind of a silly law eh?

Nothing new, this is all over the place, namely Gizmodo and Engadget.
I for one will be ignoring this "law" should I ever find myself with a GSM phone...
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Nobody cares. End of the day, just kind of do it anyway and I guarantee nothing will ever, ever happen to you.

jimmyco2008 said:
Nothing new, this is all over the place, namely Gizmodo and Engadget.
I for one will be ignoring this "law" should I ever find myself with a GSM phone...
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Yeah there's absolutely no way they can reinforce this law. Unless they're going to declare a Nexus device illegal because it is "unlocked" -_-
The government needs to back off with what they're trying to do with all these tech laws. Obviously making laws to restrict cell phones is more important than fixing the government's budget, debt, foreign and national policies, education
Nobody cares. End of the day, just kind of do it anyway and I guarantee nothing will ever, ever happen to you.
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You care enough to make a reply to this thread? So it's obviously a big deal for you. Nothing will happen, but it's just funny to see what the law is trying to do.

I'd like to see them enforce this law. What they gonna do? Throw us in jail if we unlock the thing?

Well I remember when rooting and jailbreaking were declared legal in like 2006, whoopdy doo, you mean we can do whatever we want with our devices? Same situation now in that, legal or no, people will continue doing it.
Similar example: hackintoshing. It's illegal in that Apple can sue you for it, but they don't care about small people doing it, suing middle class or even lower class citizens for pennies on the dollar in a joke of a claim will only waste their money on legal fees and set a bad rep for picking on customers (hackintoshers often buy Magic Mice, Track pads, OSX itself and other Apple hardware/software for their setups).
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zephiK said:
You care enough to make a reply to this thread? So it's obviously a big deal for you. Nothing will happen, but it's just funny to see what the law is trying to do.
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Yeah, taking twenty seconds to reply to a thread obviously makes it a big deal for me. Alright, I'll partake in the circlejerk.
omg like lol but they let apple phones be jailberken. American law so ridiculluss.

Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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I'm not in the US, but frankly, who gives a sh*t..
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Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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Exactly, good thing is it's illegal for carriers to sim lock phones in my country.
Beamed from my Grouper.

Interesting that it says you can't even rip a CD if you are going to play it on a device without an optical drive. So will iTunes stop letting you rip CD' s to your iTunes account. Or will they let you rip it but block you from putting those songs onto your iPod, (or any other mp3 player).
If they do let me, and I ever got arrested, I'd try to get the DA to charge Apple as an accessory to the crime for not blocking me from doing it lol.
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Very funny, like megaupload thing and S.O.P.A.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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Carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked are two different things.

Even though I don't unlock my phone ever, this is silly. Aren't there more important things they should be concerning themselves with?
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Here in Brazil, every phone is sold unlocked. And if we get a locked one, the carrier may unlock it for free.
Actually is illegal to sell locked phones.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Even though I don't unlock my phone ever, this is silly. Aren't there more important things they should be concerning themselves with?
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So all of those roms in your signature, you have never flashed?
dedraks said:
Here in Brazil, every phone is sold unlocked. And if we get a locked one, the carrier may unlock it for free.
Actually is illegal to sell locked phones.
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Not what this thread is about.

So now I'll also feel the same heat from the fuzz about backing up my blue rays and DVDs to my htpc
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adrynalyne said:
So all of those roms in your signature, you have never flashed?
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Not what this thread is about.
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The quote in the OP is referring to SIM unlocking not bootloader unlocking.

Well.. if this is the truth I'd be in jail for some time then
Stupid ****ing law if it were to pass. Not sure how they'd catch you.. I'd buy anything Google related anyway. Think America needs to worry about other issues besides gadgets. If I had the money to spend on a E-Flasher my ps3 would be down graded right now.
How dare you try to tell me what I can't and can do with MY device 'I' bought from you. If you want control over the product then **** you. I'll find something that don't want control and allow me to do whatever.
Just me though..
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People need to start being more proactive about voting some of these politicians out of office. Enough with sopa, pipa, etc.

In Germany there are no laws concerning that issue. However I assume that nobody cares, locked phones are (at least in Germany) usually sold with 2 year contracts - you can't get out of them (without paying a fine), so the carrier should give a sh*t on whether you use the services you pay for, or you pay twice to use other services.

It is now ILLEGAL to root ALL tablets!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963058
How long till its phones?
Sign it please
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grassyloki said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963058
How long till its phones?
Sign it please
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That sucks. It personally doesn't effect me because this is US law and I live in Canada. Regardless, I am not a fan of this law and I am sure MANY people are going to be upset.

Remember that time an online petition changed the world? Man, that was awesome.
Oh wait, that never happened.

What exactly does this have to do with the galaxy s2?

I would read what was said below before going to crazy... some strong points are made
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Jesus H. Christ, this topic is so rooted (no pun intended) in profoundly gross ignorance it's saddening.
1.) Not a single thing pertaining to tablets has changed. Their status under the DMCA remains the same as it was in 2011 and 2010.
2) The proposed DMCA rejection of tablets was rejected not based upon "greater capabilities," but upon the fact that the EFF came with an overly broad and ill-defined definition of tablet.
3) The was no ruling on 28 October. Rather, 28 Oct was the date that the current DMCA exemptions went into effect after being published in the Federal Register on 26 October.
4) In and of itself, rooting a tablet is not illegal. Circumvention of DRM is what's prohibited by the DMCA. What went into effect on 28 Oct are five exemptions to this that will be in effect for the ensuing three years.
5) The Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 ship with unlockable bootloaders and an open source operating system. As such, unlocking and rooting are unactionable under the DMCA. Even though circumventing a locked bootloader on other tablets has always been "actionable," OEMs turn a blind eye to it as that's just the way the Android ecosystem is. Furthermore, the NTIA supported the exemption being extended to tablets, so I don't foresee anyone getting sued for it.
6) Playing fast and loose with terms such as "illegal" makes for great sensationalism, but it also paints this subject entirely out of context. No one has ever gone to jail for rooting a tablet, nor will they. It's entirely a civil matter and the OEMs don't have any incentive to sue anyone for rooting.
7) I have to laugh when I see the fuss about the Copyright Office, as they are not the entity responsible for DMCA exemptions. It is the Librarian of Congress that is tasked with the job. So, as others have said, sending a slacktivist petition to the Copyright Office and bombarding them with misinformed tweets really isn't going to do much good other than get you considered as a whack job.
8) For that matter, whining to the LoC isn't going to do any good, either. This is a process that is governed by statute and the LoC has to act within the scope of that. If you don't like the way things turned out this year, DMCA exemptions will be up for review again in 2015. I'd suggest you attend one of the many public hearings that lead up to the decision making. It's a rather open and transparent process with numerous public hearings and openings for comments in the 12 months preceding the final publishing of exemptions. Hopefully by then, we'll be able to give them a definition of tablet that also doesn't encompass PSPs, e-readers, and laptops
Finally, I would leave you with this bit of sage advice... please, please, please... educate yourself about a topic before having a knee-jerk "the sky is falling" reaction to that topic. I'll reiterate the simple fact that nothing at all has changed as it pertains to anything anyone does here. Things are today just as they were on 27 October 2012 or 2011.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
What exactly does this have to do with the galaxy s2?
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It starts with tablets then one day it will transition into phones
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I'll continue to use my hardware however I want to, illegal or not.

Joe USer said:
I'll continue to use my hardware however I want to, illegal or not.
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+1 I shelled out the cash for my phone, I'll use my phone or tablet any way I please!!

What are the penalties for having a rooted tablet? I seriously doubt the tablet police will come knocking at your door demanding to see your asus transformer tab or whatever
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Haha that would be funny if they did

Chochiwpg said:
That sucks. It personally doesn't effect me because this is US law and I live in Canada. Regardless, I am not a fan of this law and I am sure MANY people are going to be upset.
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Feels good to live in Canada right now.
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DigitaL BlisS said:
Feels good to live in Canada right now.
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Where you living Digital?
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Chochiwpg said:
Where you living Digital?
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Ottawa, you?
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DigitaL BlisS said:
Ottawa, you?
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Winnipeg

the police state is out of hand.
Today at a stop sign an old man was stalled at the 4 way stop, a very popular intersection. Everyone was stopping to ask the old man if he needed help. He said no and was on his cell phone.
Down the road cops were stopping people, I didn't think much of it.
Came back to the intersection hours later and realized the same old man was on his cell phone.
He was an undercover cop or snitch telling the cops who didn't have a damn seat belt on and they were handing out $170 tickets.

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the police state is out of hand.
Today at a stop sign an old man was stalled at the 4 way stop, a very popular intersection. Everyone was stopping to ask the old man if he needed help. He said no and was on his cell phone.
Down the road cops were stopping people, I didn't think much of it.
Came back to the intersection hours later and realized the same old man was on his cell phone.
He was an undercover cop or snitch telling the cops who didn't have a damn seat belt on and they were handing out $170 tickets.
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Ah ha lol good one
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rymanh said:
What are the penalties for having a rooted tablet? I seriously doubt the tablet police will come knocking at your door demanding to see your asus transformer tab or whatever
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^ This. Except I'm not at your mom's house.
This would be about as enforceable as pirating media. Not that I would ever do that.

Well that sucks but it is a little confusing since didn't like a year or so ago a judge determine that jailbreaking an iPhone what is not illegal. So then its only illegal if it's a tablet. Not that it matters because I will continue rooting my devices and using it how I want
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I paid monry for my tablet. I will root it in another country if I must. In case rooting does get banned, it is likely only the act of rooting, not using a rooted device, that will be illegal. So root it in another country, and you will be fully fine.

Who owns our phones?

I came across this article. in my opinion if i bought my phone i should be allowed to do whatever I want... anyone disagree? Glad I unlocked my tmo sensation for my daughter on at&t before this went into effect..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013_n_2585502.html

iIl still be unlocking thou haha what are the chances of them finding out? Downloading movies and music is illegal and? ..people still do it xD crappy laws...
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What I guess they are getting at with the law is yes you own the hardware but do not own the software that runs on it. Only license it from the manufacturer and there for should not be allowed to change the software you don't own.
This law is also only effecting phones purchased after october and you can still unlock your phone you just need to have the carrier unlock it is all.
What is supposedly illegal is hacking the software to unlock it (like they can catch you) or getting a unlock code from a online provider other then your carrier / manufacturer.
I think it is dumb though. I bet Apple had a hand it in. Getting upset people were getting the carrier version of the iPhone and paying less and hacking to unlock it rather then paying a insane amount for the unlocked version.

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I came across this article. in my opinion if i bought my phone i should be allowed to do whatever I want... anyone disagree? Glad I unlocked my tmo sensation for my daughter on at&t before this went into effect..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013_n_2585502.html
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Lol I bought a gun... Doesn't mean I can shoot whomever/wherever I want... Bought a car that goes 150 but can't drive that fast... Bought a computer but can't hack gov't websites...
Just because I buy something doesnt mean I can do whatever I want with it. Ppl are really making too big of a deal about this unlocking bit...
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
Lol I bought a gun... Doesn't mean I can shoot whomever/wherever I want... Bought a car that goes 150 but can't drive that fast... Bought a computer but can't hack gov't websites...
Just because I buy something doesnt mean I can do whatever I want with it. Ppl are really making too big of a deal about this unlocking bit...
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All of those affect other people. Murder/assault is committing an act of violence against somebody without cause (can't claim self defense). Excessive speeding has great potential to kill other people on the road when you either slam into them because they are going normal speed vs your double speed or you lose control of your vehicle and slam into another. "Hacking" into somebody else's computer is an violates their right to privacy. That computer is their property and they have a right to be safe and secure when it comes to their property and belongings.
I understand your point, but YOU own your phone (assuming you paid for it and its not leased). You flashing your phone for another carrier and installing a custom ROM and using free software does not violate anybody else's rights to anything.
By your reckoning, do you think the government should be able to enforce a law for example that forces men to sit down to urinate? Either you are your own person and own your property or you don't.

Let's say a person with bad intentions gets an unlocked phone... With numerous different sim cards running through it from different carriers... You mean to tell me no harm can be done with that? It doesn't have potential to obstruct police investigations, locate kidnapped people, etc?
If you purchase an american flag, can you legally burn it? Hell can u leave it out in a rain storm? If you have cash that u earned, did u know its illegal to rip, burn, or even write on it? But its yours right?
Maybe it doesn't, but that's how I look at it. And everyone that has a phone already can unlock it if they want... Its just for new buyers which is why I don't see what the big deal is. How many people really unlock their phones? Less than 1% of cell phone users? Idk just think its a big fuss about a falling sky over nothing.
And BTW... I may not HAVE to sit/stand to urinate... But there are restrictions of where I urinate (if that's relevant)
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Apparently a couple of people are confused regarding ownership. Yes, you own your phone. No, you do not own the software or firmware on the phone. You own a licence to use the software and firmware. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but that is how it works.
Hope that helps.

Sooo....if android is open source...i can flash another custom rom and unlocked it...no broken laws there right? lol

Did you pay full retail or was your phone subsidized?

Also to be clear. It is not breaking this law to root the phone or install custom software. That is still the same.
The law is only concerning the carrier lock on the sim card.
So you can flash as many roms and stuff as you want as that won't effect sim locks. But if you modify the firmware to remove the sim card lock then that would be a violation of this law.

Jose0726 said:
Sooo....if android is open source...i can flash another custom rom and unlocked it...no broken laws there right? lol
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If you unlock it without the carriers approval you are breaking the law. If somehow you can write all the firmware, drivers, modems, etc from scratch along with a ROM that does not contain any lines of code from the carrier you may be able to go that route.
Being how most of us have Tmobile it's a non-issue anyway because T-mobile is very friendly regarding unlocking.

Fisrt we own the phone no one owns the softwear its open source, qualcomm has relased the source code for there drivers the only prob is the federal government is full of crooks but thats not here nor there. So anways why cant we unlock what is ours and open to us you tell me the carriers or the makers of the phone

Its just a bunch of stupid laws... all they want is new ways to keep spying on peoples privacy...example like wt. FB...

Fck the crooked system. It's my phone.
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This is an equivalence of purchasing digital media. The consumer may have purchased the digital media but they have no right to distribute the content unless they have permission from the distributor(s). Unlocking a phone (illegally) means the consumer is distributing the phone without the carrier's consistency.
I still signed the petition that's against the passing of the law anyways.
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Pretty much trying to cut out the middle men in order to squeeze out the more money they can from Those online places or doing it yourself way. for example my girl has an iphone I would like to bring her to tmobile since she doesn't have att anymore. If I was a casual user I would be scared of "breaking" the law and trying to unlock online so I'm out of luck. Hence forcing to buy a phone from them. pretty soon they are going to force us buying warranty on tvs and such for our "sake" .
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And stating only 1% of people unlock their phones is pretty ridiculous especially without any basis.
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I agree with the post that states tmobile is friendly for unlocking...i got my unlock code for my sensation in less than a day....but whatever...say what thay say.

GalaxyS3Guy said:
If you purchase an american flag, can you legally burn it? Hell can u leave it out in a rain storm? If you have cash that u earned, did u know its illegal to rip, burn, or even write on it? But its yours right?
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IMO you can burn it if you want, but don't be an idiot and display yourself burning it to the public lol.

daxecutioner24 said:
Pretty much trying to cut out the middle men in order to squeeze out the more money they can from Those online places or doing it yourself way. for example my girl has an iphone I would like to bring her to tmobile since she doesn't have att anymore. If I was a casual user I would be scared of "breaking" the law and trying to unlock online so I'm out of luck. Hence forcing to buy a phone from them. pretty soon they are going to force us buying warranty on tvs and such for our "sake" .
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And stating only 1% of people unlock their phones is pretty ridiculous especially without any basis.
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Since Obama-Care was upheld the government can now force you to buy anything they feel like. Hold onto your wallet and next time around be sure to vote for those that prefer freedom and allow you the ability to purchase what you want instead of being ordered to do so.

jcbofkc said:
Since Obama-Care was upheld the government can now force you to buy anything they feel like. Hold onto your wallet and next time around be sure to vote for those that prefer freedom and allow you the ability to purchase what you want instead of being ordered to do so.
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Yeah Ok... Cool story... XDA probably isn't the place for your uneducated political propaganda. Let's stick to phone talk
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