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If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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We need lots of more articles like these..Will be putting the link on Twiter and Facebook...Just like CIQ

Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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They are only slightly better than Samsung.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
Apart from that, they have supported it for about 19 months now through 3 major releases, instead of their promise of 18 months and a minimum of 1 major release.

So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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kingsway8605 said:
The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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See post right before yours.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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They treat you best?
How, by giving you updates that your phone can handle?
You applaud them for that, yet you think it's a bad thing when a company (Samsung) wouldn't send an update to a device that COULDN'T properly handle one?
Apple's way around the issue is to rarely update their hardware, so that it can handle any update they throw at it for 2+ years.
Samsung (and the major Android manufacturers in general) deals with it by continuously pushing the envelope by releasing cutting-edge hardware, and then updating software to the devices that can handle it.
Which would you rather have? 2 year old hardware, and last year's updates, or tomorrow's hardware and tomorrow's updates?
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So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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See post right before yours.
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I did:
You're getting dumber and dumber as this goes on.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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Whatever tips your balance off course, for many it would be because of other things but at least this is honest reasoning.
Shouting that Samsung lied to costumers and mistreats them is just stupid and shows no understanding of market mechanisms, but displays tunnelvision instead.
I understand it sucks, having had an Omnia2 before my Galaxy S2, but it was known beforehand that the updatecycle would stop somewhere at the end of 2011, as it is to end at Q3/Q4-2012 for the Galaxy S2. By that time the same discussion will start, this time about the Galaxy Nexus, with the same stupid arguments, petitions and tears.

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Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count).
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This is the crux of the whole thing:
I would never, in my worst "phone-geek" nightmare, dream of owning the same device for 3 years, I don't care which phone it was.
That's an eternity in terms of technological advances, and if that's what you're looking for: a phone that'll still be updated (software-wise) for 3 years, then an iphone is EXACTLY what you need.
I'd rather have a hole in my head than to be stuck with ANY phone for that long.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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If Samsung didn't honestly care for it's customers people would have never gotten an update at all.
It's entertaining that you're white knighting yourself with the supposed honor of refusing to buy Sansung devices because of them no longer supporting year-old hardware.
Things move fast, the employees that make the updates at Samsung don't have any obligation to continue to work on old hardware.
The Evo Shift isn't getting ICS and it released after the Galaxy S line. Is HTC suddenly not carrying for its customers?
Why, exactly do you care?
Your device WILL get ICS and the chances are you are rooted and even if it didn't [get ICS] some developer(s) is/are working on it.
Hell, I'm sure that rooted Galaxy S users will get it.
Enjoy getting gimped updates with features cut out once your apple device is no longer the top-of-their-line.
There is absolutely no reason for people with a device that old to expect ICS via their manufacturer.
You're basically saying that Samsung should update phones that it shouldn't really be on to it, providing a lackluster User experience.
The users would get all sorts of issues with it and no amount of features would change the fact that some of the issues would push that customer away from that manufacturer.
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So sorry that Android's updates are taking much bigger steps than IOS' updates.

I believe the thing that the OP doesn't take into account is that even apple phones usually become to slow for the latest and greatest iOS version after 18 months to 2 years. In which case, you are back at square one if you had bought any number of android phones.
Regardless, 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
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I just found out that my Commodore 64 does not support running Windows 7....
Damn it, I am pissed! Screw corporate america! Where's my tent, I'm going to "occupy" their headquarters!!

SOPA.... Let me tell you how I feel :)

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Me no get it ... I is on tapatawk
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Everything is fine. Love your government.
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while the bill is dead at least for now. I wouldn't put it past people (namely Lemar) to re write it or get it included into something else that no one catches right off.

cidica said:
while the bill is dead at least for now. I wouldn't put it past people (namely Lemar) to re write it or get it included into something else that no one catches right off.
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It's not dead. They shelved it, and are currently revising it to resubmit later.
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What's wrong with the internet the way it is... aren't people satisfied with the bazillions of dollars they already make in profits...
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xSaint21 said:
What's wrong with the internet the way it is... aren't people satisfied with the bazillions of dollars they already make in profits...
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Apparently the music and film industries believe that the record-breaking profits every year aren't enough. They seem pretty convinced that if I could not download, say, music from the 1920's that I would somehow pay them money for it...oh, wait, they don't even sell it? Then surely I would just spend my money on something they do sell?
The real issue is not piracy. At all. It is control. They are losing control of content creation, distribution, profits and everything in between.
It's a paradigm shift. There is no more scarcity. In the past it cost money to make physical copies of content. That is no longer true. In the past it cost money to transport and distribute content. That is no longer true.
Guess who owns every one of those in-between industries? Guess who gets to pick the celebrities?
The internet has made all of that obsolete. The traditional music industry structure is crumbling so fast that you can start writing it's obituary now...the film industry still puts a TON of money into big movies--money that technology hasn't found a way to make irrelevant yet. So, they will likely go nowhere, but, profit margins are going to have to get slimmer to compete with all of the independently produced films.
People will always want to own the physical media under some circumstances...collectors, to give as a gift, for that one really special movie or album....but...most people won't.
These 2 industry associations are trying to prop up a 100 year old business model at the expense of cultural and technological progress....and that means money--to everyone else but them.
Tough ****. Pick a new business. Let the rest of us get on with progress.

They get paid way too much anyway. Some chick can make a sound out of her voice? So what, I've seen people run minecraft inside of minecraft on a computer they built out of blocks inside of minecraft. Now that is deserving of millions.

I recently saw a youtube vid of a talk Cory Doctorow gave at the 28th chaos communication congress last month. it's a long speech (about an hour) but worth watching and discusses SOPA and a lot of topics regarding restrictions on computers. here's just a bit of it.
"And on the network side, attempts to make a network that can't be used for copyright infringement always converges with the surveillance measures that we know from repressive governments. So, SOPA, the U.S. Stop Online Piracy Act, bans tools like DNSSec because they can be used to defeat DNS blocking measures. And it blocks tools like Tor, because they can be used to circumvent IP blocking measures. In fact, the proponents of SOPA, the Motion Picture Association of America, circulated a memo, citing research that SOPA would probably work, because it uses the same measures as are used in Syria, China, and Uzbekistan, and they argued that these measures are effective in those countries, and so they would work in America, too! "
I would post a link but not sure what rules are regarding that. anyway if you search for "28c3 cory doctorow" it will be the first that shows up.
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xSaint21 said:
What's wrong with the internet the way it is... aren't people satisfied with the bazillions of dollars they already make in profits...
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The thing is the more money people make, the more they want=OIL COMPANIES.
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Kinda was a rhetorical question greed is one hell of a thing.
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Rooting may legally come to an end soon

Here is an article about how rooting and jaikbreaking may legally come to an end in the near future.
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Looks like there is a petition to sign... Will this do any good?

Don't think it will stick. To many means to move information.
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Not really much of an article .... I'll believe it when someone more reputable writes about it.

Jizzylax said:
Not really much of an article .... I'll believe it when someone more reputable writes about it.
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How about the Electronic Freedom Foundation?
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/help-protect-gadget-jailbreakers-and-video-artists-legal-threats

Considering how many people root/jailbreak, s**t will hit the fan if this passes.

this crap will never pass and if it does we will see some real sh*t hit the streets just like the sopa and pipa crap pirates will never stop just like the internet will never rest is like a hydra cut one head two more come out.

I rooted before they ever will make it illegal, so what will I have to do. I "don't" know how to unjailbreak lol
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How about the Electronic Freedom Foundation?
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Who?
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Would be a bummer to not be able to use our phones that we bought.

LOL - ha ha. Tried, just try to enforce it in India, China & a few other countries and see what happened.
With CDMA only devices, it might be easier to attempt a crackdown - but, GSM devices that are sim-based, forgetaboutit ...
If this happens, pigs can fly too.

Some instances of altering game consoles for pirate gaming could be understandable cause it does hurt the companies (not that they are in pain) but I don't know off hand of anything or anybody that is hurt by my phone being rooted. HTC is aware its being done and aside from voiding the warranty they have not started any criminal procedure that I know of. I don't see this happening but I doubt they could enforce it. Hell an American developer would only have to post thru a foreign board member. Seriously let's focus our legal money/manpower on real issues.

AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Considering how many people root/jailbreak, s**t will hit the fan if this passes.
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Considering how many people use the internet, SOPA almost passed.
If this bill is real, there's a good chance it could get passed. Sure, lots of people root their phones, but in the grand scheme of things, considering how many people do -not- root their phones, the number of people who do is pretty minuscule.

Kinda like marijuana or alcohol. If it's legal, people are gonna do it legally. If they make it illegal, they'll do it illegally.
BTW, Apple tried this a few years back, it failed miserably.

Would there even be a way to know if someone rooted their cell? I'm not sure what would change if they couldn't...
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good thing HTC is being cool and providing a way to unlock their phones for us. can't be illegal if the manufacturer provides it

Unlocking Smartphones Illegal

Unlocking smartphones: Illegal
That’s right — unlocking your smartphone so you can take it to another wireless carrier will soon be illegal, unless authorized by your carrier. This, despite the fact that the Register has allowed unlocking since 2006.
There are some exceptions to this rule — but they aren’t worth cheering for. Specifically, you may unlock any phone you own now, or buy between now and “ninety days after the effective date of this exemption.” As of January 2013, however, unlocking your device without permission is decidedly against the law.
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Kind of a silly law eh?

Nothing new, this is all over the place, namely Gizmodo and Engadget.
I for one will be ignoring this "law" should I ever find myself with a GSM phone...
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Nobody cares. End of the day, just kind of do it anyway and I guarantee nothing will ever, ever happen to you.

jimmyco2008 said:
Nothing new, this is all over the place, namely Gizmodo and Engadget.
I for one will be ignoring this "law" should I ever find myself with a GSM phone...
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Yeah there's absolutely no way they can reinforce this law. Unless they're going to declare a Nexus device illegal because it is "unlocked" -_-
The government needs to back off with what they're trying to do with all these tech laws. Obviously making laws to restrict cell phones is more important than fixing the government's budget, debt, foreign and national policies, education
Nobody cares. End of the day, just kind of do it anyway and I guarantee nothing will ever, ever happen to you.
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You care enough to make a reply to this thread? So it's obviously a big deal for you. Nothing will happen, but it's just funny to see what the law is trying to do.

I'd like to see them enforce this law. What they gonna do? Throw us in jail if we unlock the thing?

Well I remember when rooting and jailbreaking were declared legal in like 2006, whoopdy doo, you mean we can do whatever we want with our devices? Same situation now in that, legal or no, people will continue doing it.
Similar example: hackintoshing. It's illegal in that Apple can sue you for it, but they don't care about small people doing it, suing middle class or even lower class citizens for pennies on the dollar in a joke of a claim will only waste their money on legal fees and set a bad rep for picking on customers (hackintoshers often buy Magic Mice, Track pads, OSX itself and other Apple hardware/software for their setups).
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zephiK said:
You care enough to make a reply to this thread? So it's obviously a big deal for you. Nothing will happen, but it's just funny to see what the law is trying to do.
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Yeah, taking twenty seconds to reply to a thread obviously makes it a big deal for me. Alright, I'll partake in the circlejerk.
omg like lol but they let apple phones be jailberken. American law so ridiculluss.

Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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I'm not in the US, but frankly, who gives a sh*t..
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Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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Exactly, good thing is it's illegal for carriers to sim lock phones in my country.
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Interesting that it says you can't even rip a CD if you are going to play it on a device without an optical drive. So will iTunes stop letting you rip CD' s to your iTunes account. Or will they let you rip it but block you from putting those songs onto your iPod, (or any other mp3 player).
If they do let me, and I ever got arrested, I'd try to get the DA to charge Apple as an accessory to the crime for not blocking me from doing it lol.
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Very funny, like megaupload thing and S.O.P.A.
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Huh.. i bought mine unlocked. What i think it's silly is carriers having it blocked in the first place.
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Carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked are two different things.

Even though I don't unlock my phone ever, this is silly. Aren't there more important things they should be concerning themselves with?
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Here in Brazil, every phone is sold unlocked. And if we get a locked one, the carrier may unlock it for free.
Actually is illegal to sell locked phones.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Even though I don't unlock my phone ever, this is silly. Aren't there more important things they should be concerning themselves with?
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So all of those roms in your signature, you have never flashed?
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Here in Brazil, every phone is sold unlocked. And if we get a locked one, the carrier may unlock it for free.
Actually is illegal to sell locked phones.
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Not what this thread is about.

So now I'll also feel the same heat from the fuzz about backing up my blue rays and DVDs to my htpc
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So all of those roms in your signature, you have never flashed?
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Not what this thread is about.
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The quote in the OP is referring to SIM unlocking not bootloader unlocking.

Well.. if this is the truth I'd be in jail for some time then
Stupid ****ing law if it were to pass. Not sure how they'd catch you.. I'd buy anything Google related anyway. Think America needs to worry about other issues besides gadgets. If I had the money to spend on a E-Flasher my ps3 would be down graded right now.
How dare you try to tell me what I can't and can do with MY device 'I' bought from you. If you want control over the product then **** you. I'll find something that don't want control and allow me to do whatever.
Just me though..
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People need to start being more proactive about voting some of these politicians out of office. Enough with sopa, pipa, etc.

In Germany there are no laws concerning that issue. However I assume that nobody cares, locked phones are (at least in Germany) usually sold with 2 year contracts - you can't get out of them (without paying a fine), so the carrier should give a sh*t on whether you use the services you pay for, or you pay twice to use other services.

Lets hope Samsung doesnt start this

www.androidauthority.com/htc-takes-down-rom-files-across-the-web-150757/
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This seems to be really poor timing on HTCs part, as they are trying to rebuild a public positive image, regain market share.
Killing this kind of resource is only shooting themselves in the foot. It pisses off the geeks that would otherwise give them good recommendations and reviews.
This kind of website costs HTC no money, incurred no losses. And, imho, actually Saves them money (in man hours) for tech support, as XDA does.
Foolish, HTC. Hope you're reading this.
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This seems to be really poor timing on HTCs part, as they are trying to rebuild a public positive image, regain market share.
Killing this kind of resource is only shooting themselves in the foot. It pisses off the geeks that would otherwise give them good recommendations and reviews.
This kind of website costs HTC no money, incurred no losses. And, imho, actually Saves them money (in man hours) for tech support, as XDA does.
Foolish, HTC. Hope you're reading this.
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It is probably tied to DMCA a lot of changes in the law happen tomorrow.
http://phandroid.com/2013/01/24/unlocking-phones-illegal/

That enforced my decision of no more htc devices

I was just thinking of posting this.

Well if its just the unlocking thing id never buy an unlicked phone.....those prices are crazy. Lol. I wish cell companies would be more accepting of the dev community. ...I mean half of their fixes come from there lol
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neopolotin75 said:
Well if its just the unlocking thing id never buy an unlicked phone.....those prices are crazy. Lol. I wish cell companies would be more accepting of the dev community. ...I mean half of their fixes come from there lol
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That isn't what the OP is about...it is about HTC issuing DMCA takedowns and then domain seizures of websites that host HTC firmwares and ROMs....meaning XDA might get punked.
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ehupp01 said:
It is probably tied to DMCA a lot of changes in the law happen tomorrow.
http://phandroid.com/2013/01/24/unlocking-phones-illegal/
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No it is not. It still perfectly legal to jailbreak/root and ROM you phone. That law is specifically about carrier unlocking.

Lol I know what the op is about I posted it... I was referring to the law affecting unlocking phones and switching carriers. :thumbup:
Oops should hit the quote again
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neopolotin75 said:
Lol I know what the op is about I posted it... I was referring to the law affecting unlocking phones and switching carriers. :thumbup:
Oops should hit the quote again
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My bad
BTW it doesn't matter if you don't switch carriers, and just unlock your phone. Unlocking your handset without the branded carrier's permission is easily grounds for ETF and being kicked from said carrier if not getting legal action brought against you. For example, the SIM mod being worked on to allow us Sprint users to use GSM towers with a 3rd part SIM card is illegal on any phone purchased after tomorrow....as you are technically unlocking the phone. You can still have your Sprint contract and Sprint service, but that mod is illegal as of tomorrow on any phone purchased starting tomorrow.
AAMOF, that SIM card mod thread will probably be deleted and disappeared before too long.

Skripka said:
My bad
BTW it doesn't matter if you don't switch carriers, and just unlock your phone. Unlocking your handset without the branded carrier's permission is easily grounds for ETF and being kicked from said carrier if not getting legal action brought against you. For example, the SIM mod being worked on to allow us Sprint users to use GSM towers with a 3rd part SIM card is illegal on any phone purchased after tomorrow....as you are technically unlocking the phone. You can still have your Sprint contract and Sprint service, but that mod is illegal as of tomorrow on any phone purchased starting tomorrow.
AAMOF, that SIM card mod thread will probably be deleted and disappeared before too long.
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So that means it's legal for us since we purchased it before it's illegal
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i think this has happened a while back (with HTC also). they took down a website that hosted tons of old htc roms, some unmodded. it was a pretty popular site here. wish i could remember the details.

kwazytazz said:
So that means it's legal for us since we purchased it before it's illegal
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That is how I read it. But I am not a lawyer.
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Suddenly even happier I opted to get a note 2 instead of getting a new screen for my ltevo.
Ok I ordered a new glass *also*, but now it's just going to be a garage music player, google, and obd2 scanner device, or maybe a netflix / "smart tv" box for the bedroom. What will not be is my phone that gets carried around and seen doing neat stuff.
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My first htc device the Hero also the last htc device I purchased. Thank goodness I went with Samsung since the s2> s3> gn2
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I am so happy they are shooting themselves in the foot like in Blazing Saddles. It makes me so giddy! I dumped htc 4 years ago. Last device I bought was the tp2. I was so disgusted how poorly it ran and how the xv6700 out performed it. Plus remember the whole htc missing drivers deal? That set my hair on fire. I said to myself. ... "nat juan moar penny shall this dirty hor get fro thy!". Ever since I have been only buying samsung. Now I can actually rub my phones in apple fans faces. With htc, I was embarrassed to take it or if anyone had aiphone nearby. Thxs samsung.