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128 gb microsd...when is enough ENOUGH!

Come on folks...128gb microsd?!?!
At first I was excited about the Sandisk announcement (http://dailymobile.se/2008/10/20/sandisk-to-develop-128gb-micosd/); but then I asked one question--When will this end?
I'm torn between constantly buying "the next biggest memory card" versus start storing everything I need online.
Sure they both have their PROs and CONs -- but since 99% of my travels are in a 3G area...
...why NOT use one of the many FREE picture/file stores online?
...and why NOT watch movies and vids online instead of a downloaded copy to my memory card?
...and why not start storing my contacts, calendar, tasks and everyday To Do lists online too?
...and why not even run my desktop applications online where I can access them anywhere I have connectivity?
We Tech OGs know this "cloud computing (Web 3.0)" is nothing new--remember DUMB TERMINALS and THIN CLIENTS? Amongst other advantages, it was SUPPOSE to put a halt to ever-growing disk space needs and excessive licensing costs back in the 1980s and 90s. It didn't really fly...and so now Here we go again.
With only a handful of today's mobile devices having more than 640K of RAM, maybe Bill Gates was right after all when he supposedly said "640K of memory should be enough for anybody".

What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
I am not traveling always in good 3G connection area and I like to carry arround the data I need. The more the better, for me it is realy that simple.
Wikipedia, MP3s, Navigation, Presentations, fotos, documents, etc.
With a smal card I have to select the data. The larger the card the easier it will be - just have everything.
Claus

128GB on a MicroSD card is just insane.

Been there...done that
dingolino said:
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
I am not traveling always in good 3G connection area and I like to carry arround the data I need. The more the better, for me it is realy that simple.
Wikipedia, MP3s, Navigation, Presentations, fotos, documents, etc.
With a smal card I have to select the data. The larger the card the easier it will be - just have everything.
Claus
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Until about 2 years ago, I loaded gigs of TomTom and Mapopolis maps to my SD card. The problem was those maps NEVER had street names and areas less than 4 years old. So I abandoned that and started using Google Maps, YahooGo and Nav4All. The only downside is that an internet connection is now required. I'm now starting to go online with fotos so I can share. I abandoned loading encyclopedias, dictionaries and wikis to my SD cards a long time ago. To me loading those on a card is the same as carrying around hard/printed copies. It's outdated the second you put it on paper. By accessing those online, in theory, you'll have the latest updates.
My only concern with accessing contacts, calendar, tasks and documents online is SECURITY.

Not long ago I spent $60 on a 4GB micro SDHC
Haven't come close to filling it -- but when I saw a 8GB for only $25 last week, I just had to grab it.
I just might do the same when 16GB get to that price point.

burtcom said:
Not long ago I spent $60 on a 4GB micro SDHC
Haven't come close to filling it -- but when I saw a 8GB for only $25 last week, I just had to grab it.
I just might do the same when 16GB get to that price point.
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I spent the equivalent of $12 on a 4GB Micro SDHC the other day.

I have the same problem and now it has been sorted!

dingolino said:
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
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Meanwhile this rule of thumb isn't true anymore. The pressure inside the cylinder affects the power of an engine too. So more cylinder capacity isn't neccessary that much.

Had a 512MB SD Card - was enougth but a bit too small ... !
Upgraded to a 1GB SD Card - was enougth but again became a bit too small.
Bought me a 2GB SD Card - damn, still not enough space ... !
Got me a 4GB Card - ... will it ever be large enough for my needs?
Sitting on my 8GB Card - ... not enough space !!!
Well, avoided so far the 16Gig Card because I think it is just too expensive! Hopefully prices will drop soon - so, 128GB would be cool, I could get rid of my 160GB USB drive.
However, I doubt that any currently available MOBILE HANDSET would be capable of handling a 128GB Card ... !

..let me hear ya say tera. oh yeah

The more space you have, the more space you´ll need/use
So the "When is enough" will have to be answered by users and not by manufacturers. The day we don´t buy something that will be the day when they maybe say "Now it´s enough"

Keep in mind those Cards will be used as well for other things then Phones. with a USB reader ( that you could carry on your key chain) you could carry complete data of your desktop with those. (pictures. movies,music etc)
I am selling those readers and many company's that have been using CD/DVDs moving to USB readers with cards. >see the picture for sample<

Solon said:
Meanwhile this rule of thumb isn't true anymore. The pressure inside the cylinder affects the power of an engine too. So more cylinder capacity isn't neccessary that much.
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Untill you also fill that bigger cylinder with more air....

I suppose the question is not necessarily whether or not "when will enough be enough" but more so "when will they develope phones with much better camera and video quality? That is when the large SD cards will come in handy. 4 years ago Samsung made a great phone for Verizon Wireless. It did nto sell well because it never had a great sale on it but the thing had amazing video, camera, and even voice to text on it.

Hyden121 said:
I suppose the question is not necessarily whether or not "when will enough be enough" but more so "when will they develope phones with much better camera and video quality? That is when the large SD cards will come in handy. 4 years ago Samsung made a great phone for Verizon Wireless. It did nto sell well because it never had a great sale on it but the thing had amazing video, camera, and even voice to text on it.
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like this nokia n98? id rather buy a camera and a phone/pda i mean its not like digital zoom is amazing or anything, but yeah that would use alot of space, so would a phone with better screen resolution then all of the games/videos would be bigger. there probably wont ever be an end because people are lazy so they program lazy and dont optimize code and people want everything to be hd so everything will be bloated just for graphics

Wow, that is a pretty sweet phone anda carl zeis lens is really killer for a phone! So I guess that would be a yes.

so this is still using the SDHC interface or what??
it wouldnt make sencse to make a new subunit of SD if it can only go 128 Gb, because face it........ that isnt large enough to support another couple of years.
the jump from 2 Gb to 32 Gb was pritty big, 16 times the capacity.
32 Gb to 128 Gb is nothing compared to that first jump, its only 4 times bigger.

The real question should have been. Where can I get one and how much?

slight22 said:
The real question should have been. Where can I get one and how much?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13520709&postcount=8503
I plan to get the 128GB SDXC in that thread.

Thanks, but those are SD, not micro SD which is what we need for smartphones.

When should Microsoft update the Hardware Specs and what should be included??

Apple update the spec of their devices every year and I think Microsoft should look to do this also...
In addition to the Gyroscope and new processors metioned at MIX I would like to see the following...
Fall 2011 - Windows Phone 7.5
1. Front Facing Camera - Launched with Live Messenger, Skype etc...
2. 16 GB Minimum Memory - I have no space for new APPS on my 8 GB device!!
3. SD Card option like on the Samsung Focus as standard.
Fall 2012 - Windows Phone 8
1. DLNA - Stream movies, photos to TV
2. Windows Button to also be 8 directional D-PAD as standard.
3. Allow remapping of all buttons when in Game Mode.
3. NFC - contactless mobile payments
4. USB 3
5. Bluetooth 3 or 4
6. XGA Resolution 1024 x 768
7. HDMI
8. Dual Core processors - multiple suppliers
I am sure there will be Android devices that meet these specs by late 2012
Low end devices would stay as WP7 and WP8 would support the high end features... Microsoft has already said this is the strategy.

I think the most important update should be software and increase in software features to improve the versatility of the platform. Windows 7 phones as at now are by no means low in specs.

Agrred the current specs are high enough for the momment. The main problem is software develpoers trying to create sual core supported software which, means its better if ms wait a while and do what andorid have whereby they have increased spped of the os and added new features and battery saving features mainly. Also speed wise JIT would be good.

The specs are fine, but I do see them improving, obviously. I've stated in other threads I see them updating faster because of market production and not because of necessity, unlike Android.
With that being said, I do see FFC coming this Fall. Though, obviously, they won't be mandatory, and will probably be featured on the phones on par with what's available today. Video out will probably be available sometime, though I don't think in Mango, but it would make sense with Netflix on the device. They won't go with multiple suppliers of processors, that takes away from the consistency of the device... And Qualcomm is a fine manufacturer... Why the need for change here?
Resolution has also been said it won't change, hasn't it? Really don't blame them, again, consistency. As far for hardware adjustments... No... Just... No.
And the memory option affects price. There are 16gb devices, why didn't you get one of those? I have 16gb -.- They need smaller devices to attract different users, you can't only have max devices on the market.

ebzrascal said:
Apple update the spec of their devices every year and I think Microsoft should look to do this also...
In addition to the Gyroscope and new processors metioned at MIX I would like to see the following...
Fall 2011 - Windows Phone 7.5
1. Front Facing Camera - Launched with Live Messenger, Skype etc... - Useless without the Apps. Not sure if Skype wants to tax their network by just letting any and everyone video call right now, TBQH...
2. 16 GB Minimum Memory - I have no space for new APPS on my 8 GB device!! - Why did you buy an 8GB device?
3. SD Card option like on the Samsung Focus as standard. - They're better off setting the minimum storage to 16GB than add a slot IMO. SD Cards lose their utility with the way WP7 uses them, and it's a PITA to use them after you take them out the phone as well...
Fall 2012 - Windows Phone 8
1. DLNA - Stream movies, photos to TV - Standard on High End Android devices.
2. Windows Button to also be 8 directional D-PAD as standard. Huh?
3. Allow remapping of all buttons when in Game Mode. - That still wouldn't make the phone a decent gaming device. Have to go the Sony rought to have something decent, IMO.
3. NFC - contactless mobile payments - Becoming standard on Android phones. Newer Blackberries will ship with this as well, and I suspect the next iPhone will as well as WebOS devices.
4. USB 3 - Unnecessary, IMO.
5. Bluetooth 3 or 4 - Galaxy S phones shipped with 3.0 in the middle of last year... Kinda late for this but it doesn't matter that much if your other devices don't support it, IMO.
6. XGA Resolution 1024 x 768 - Unnecessary on smartphone screens. Even qHD is IMO unecessary on screens 4.3" and below. Apple can afford to put this because they charge a premium for their devices, but it's pretty meh. qHD is decent, this is overkill...
7. HDMI - This is a pretty standard feature these days...
8. Dual Core processors - multiple suppliers - Agree...
I am sure there will be Android devices that meet these specs by late 2012
^ Apart from the screen resolution and USB3, both of which are pipe dreams... There are already Android phones that meet or exceed these specs now...
Low end devices would stay as WP7 and WP8 would support the high end features... Microsoft has already said this is the strategy.
^ Link pls... WTB Windows Phone fragmentation?
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If Microsoft wants to wait until Fall 2012 to introduce half that stuff you have listed... They mind as well just give up now.
Do us all a favor and ask them to put better batteries in their smartphones. The issue with smartphones is not the hardware. Even 1st gen snapdragons are good enough to make a good, featureful, performant smartphone OS on... The issue is that these phones last half a day with heavy usage, when you could do 2-3 days of heavy usage on Blackberries and Nokia phones...
No one cares how pretty it is or how well it performs if they are tethered to a charger all the time, and that's pretty much the status quo for WP7/Android/WebOS and to a lesser extent iOS these days...
Even with 1800-1930 mAh batteries phones like the Galaxy S II/Atrix 4G etc. manage to have battery life measured in < a day of moderate use... That's pretty incredible (not in a good way, either). It's time for manufacturers and companies like Microsoft/Google to stop feeding the needless spec bumping and focus on something that matters more - making phones that won't be rendered useless for hours due to being tethered to a charger if you happen to doze off at night before you plug the charger into it.

Better Battery Life in general, as N8ter said. I think this is the thing iOS, wp7 & Android platforms really need to focus on more right now.
16GB minimum internal NAND memory, although I hope to see at least one 32GB or more (probably Nokia) in the next year. Memory is not that expensive, and if we are to have our music collections on our phones, Nokia and Apple are the only ones who seem to get that you need space. I'll pay a little more for enough storage.
The new processor spec's are fine, don't need dual core yet but would like to see them start to come out by early next year.
I really expect a front facing camera phone will be out with Mango due to Skype being released. One of the OEM's will have one as a flagship if not more. But do people really use this feature much? Not really, but it still has uses, and those who will use it and should be available with Mango imo.
Other than that, its additional software features that are needed most. Mango is taking care of a decent list of complaints I had as will Nokias Navtek data/Ovi maps, but there are still many things to be added.

Fall 2012??? OMG... If Mango can do good enough... Mango is still WIP, so why don;t they add some feature that might "Magnet" some other users? 1, 3, 5, 7,8 from Windows Phone 8 are good example to be put on Mango.

dtboos said:
Better Battery Life in general, as N8ter said. I think this is the thing iOS, wp7 & Android platforms really need to focus on more right now.
16GB minimum internal NAND memory, although I hope to see at least one 32GB or more (probably Nokia) in the next year. Memory is not that expensive, and if we are to have our music collections on our phones, Nokia and Apple are the only ones who seem to get that you need space. I'll pay a little more for enough storage.
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I agree, but the manufacturers charge too much for strage. Going from an 8 to 16 GB phone can easily add $100 to the price at times. It's ridiculous. They will nickle and dime at any opportunity.
Nokia phones only needed a decent size ROM. They have SD Card Slots. Same for Windows Mobile and to a lesser extent Android. iOS, WP7, and WebOS devices need at least 16 GB internal storage, because of the lack of an SD slot or the way the phone works with SD Cards (WP7).
The new processor spec's are fine, don't need dual core yet but would like to see them start to come out by early next year.
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Agree.
I really expect a front facing camera phone will be out with Mango due to Skype being released. One of the OEM's will have one as a flagship if not more. But do people really use this feature much? Not really, but it still has uses, and those who will use it and should be available with Mango imo.
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I have no use for a FFC, and TBQH, I don't even want a phone with a FFC. I'll take an extra 8GB of space instead of a FFC for same price, plix...
Other than that, its additional software features that are needed most. Mango is taking care of a decent list of complaints I had as will Nokias Navtek data/Ovi maps, but there are still many things to be added.
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Agree, and Mango needed to be coming out now, not in six months. They really dropped the ball releasing basically a feature phone in the smartphone market.

N8ter said:
I agree, but the manufacturers charge too much for strage. Going from an 8 to 16 GB phone can easily add $100 to the price at times. It's ridiculous. They will nickle and dime at any opportunity.
Nokia phones only needed a decent size ROM. They have SD Card Slots. Same for Windows Mobile and to a lesser extent Android. iOS, WP7, and WebOS devices need at least 16 GB internal storage, because of the lack of an SD slot or the way the phone works with SD Cards (WP7).
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Nokia's N8 has 64GB internal storage (if I remember correctly). Doesn't NAND memory work better than internal + a removable SD card? I never got great performance out of my SD cards in BB, Android ect. And it seems MS wants everything to be sync'd through zune instead of having removable media ect.
I just hope there is an option for at least 32GB soon, but I would definitely prefer fast and efficient NAND storage like what the Focus has.
I have no use for a FFC, and TBQH, I don't even want a phone with a FFC. I'll take an extra 8GB of space instead of a FFC for same price, plix...
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I would as well.

dtboos said:
Nokia's N8 has 64GB internal storage (if I remember correctly). Doesn't NAND memory work better than internal + a removable SD card? I never got great performance out of my SD cards in BB, Android ect. And it seems MS wants everything to be sync'd through zune instead of having removable media ect.
I just hope there is an option for at least 32GB soon, but I would definitely prefer fast and efficient NAND storage like what the Focus has.
I would as well.
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The N8 does not have 64 GB storage. I'm pretty sure it's 16 GB + SD Card Slot, just like Galaxy S phones...
Yep, just checked... 16 GB Internal Storage with support for up to 32 GB SD Card.
I used to install all my apps to a Class 2 SD Card in Windows Mobile as well as put all my music and videos on it and never had any issues with performance.
In any case, that's not a factor. SD Cards for for media storage, and you can get a high class card if you need it. As long as the phone has a decent amount of internal storage it's not gonna be a problem
I just rather the phone come with at least 16GB internal so I don't feel like I have to splurge for an expensive big SD Card on top of an already expensive device. Plus, it makes a lot of sense...
With the way WP7 works with SD cards, they're better off putting in a large amount of internal storage. SD Cards are how swappable storage and when you make them unswappable it defeats the purpose of even having the slot - especially when you have to factory reset your phone everytime you want to change it (which means you're need to get the biggest card possible off the bad, or deal with a ridiculous inconvenience later on if you want to upgrade it)...
Also, until Microsoft mandates storage types most manufacturers will continue to use SD cards. It allows them to spend VERY little money putting lots of storage whilst charging consumers a ton of money simply because there is a lot of storage there... SD Cards are ridiculously cheap compared to NAND, but you'd never know in the pricing...
Also, if an SD Card goes bad, the phone is much easier to repair than another with a NAND chip soldered in. It's as easy as opening it up, replacing that card, and factory resetting the device then sending it back... That can potentially lower support costs as well

Looks like the 64GB N8 was an april fools gag...I fell for it :O
I wish my Focus had 16GB thats for sure. I chose it as it had the best form factor, best screen, and Samsung's Chipset/Memory was also top notch. Why they chose to only put in 8GB is beyond me.

Increase storage capacity to 256GB or more - Indiegogo campaign!!!

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Hey! Thanks for checking in! I came up with an idea for an invention that I think will be a huge success! My idea involves developing hardware for specific, ios, Android and WM8 smartphones (Tablets included), to increase storage capacity. From ios to android consumers want more storage for their mobile devices. The potential to have 500GB of storage on-the-fly for your iphone 5 or Galaxy S III is immense.
My invention connects seamlessly to your smartphone for added flexibility and mobility - you can workout or even go jogging without the use of a flimsy otg cable or unnecessary WiFi hard drive. One of my biggest hurdles will be developing this tech in a very small footprint that connects seamlessly with your target device. Files are stored locally via SD or microSD without the use of cloud storage (Cloud storage can be your worst enemy if your not on a unlimited data plan). Alongside having all your media in one place, we also support OTG + Power so get the extra juice you need to run all your devices.
With progressive HD content and smartphones being effective laptop replacements, having more storage has become essential. My biggest concern is making sure this invention is affordable, pricing this tech at around 40 to 50 USD I feel is both reasonable and affordable - so you can enjoy all your media anywhere you go!
Invention details:
- Maximum Storage capacity of 256GB not including your internal storage
(Depending on your device you can can max out your storage capacity to 384GB).
- Change SD or microSD on the fly (SD SDHC SDXC microSD microSDHC microSDXC)
- Unit will allow for flexibility and mobility
- All your data will be stored locally
- Supports OTG + Power
Other supported products in the future:
- Samsung Galaxy nexus
- Nexus 4
- Nexus 7
- Nexus 10
- Droid Razr
- Samsung Galaxy S II
- Samsung Galaxy Note
- Samsung Galaxy Note II
- iphone
- ipad
More Devices to come...
I want to start an open discussion about the future of this invention, please leave your feedback and any insights you have. This invention will be in the market in 3 months time starting with the Samsung Galaxy S III for all carriers.
UPDATE:
Im working on a new tech start up, I need a skilled individual proficient in product viz & 3D Design to help kick-start a large scale Indiegogo & Internet campaign. Due to the nature of this project i can only share very little until i have you sign a Non-disclosure agreement. pm me for more details.
Indiegogo is an amazing platform funded by the people for the people, with the help of this great community here at XDA lets make this campaign a success! All details and specification will be released once product viz & 3D Designs are completed.
Thank you to everyone who's supporting this project. Without the great community here at XDA, I would never have made it this far. Thank you!

Sounds awesome. Do you have pictures? I can always use more storage. How much would something like this cost?
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Looking AWESOME!
I though my 32gb sd + 16gb on board was enough but sometimes i need more space...
I can't carry my external disk wherever i go!

Sounds pretty good, but can you give us more details?
What's the shape, is it a multislot case maybe or something like that?
I'm really curious :cyclops:
Thanks!

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Interested in seeing what this would look like. Probably won't be cheap.
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j76ms said:
Sounds awesome. Do you have pictures? I can always use more storage. How much would something like this cost?
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No pictures yet but I will have the first fully functional prototype ready to go in one month. My biggest concern is to make sure this product is affordable. At launch i will not include a SD or microSD card due to high cost flash memory. The unit will cost around 40 to 50 USD. I will include a built in SD & microSD card reader compatible with these standards: SD SDHC SDXC microSD microSDHC microSDXC

707BeastMode707 said:
Interested in seeing what this would look like. Probably won't be cheap.
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The unit will cost around 40 to 50 USD

giuliom said:
Sounds pretty good, but can you give us more details?
What's the shape, is it a multislot case maybe or something like that?
I'm really curious :cyclops:
Thanks!
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I'm limited in the exact details that i will give until i receive my pending patent. The finished product will be slim, lightweight and connects seamlessly to your device.
The device is also multislot and compatible with these standards: SD SDHC SDXC microSD microSDHC microSDXC

IMO this sounds VERY promising for $40 even if I have to use my own SD or micro SD card. Can't wait to see what it actually looks like.

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Not to thread crap, but what advantage will this have l over the $5 SD to micro adapter I bought to put a 128gb SD card in my phone?

if the price is reasonable and the profile is slim it sounds like you've got a winner

tedkord said:
Not to thread crap, but what advantage will this have l over the $5 SD to micro adapter I bought to put a 128gb SD card in my phone?
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My invention will have otg support and allow you to use both SD and microsd cards on the fly. Most importantly you wont have an otg cable or adapter dangling from the bottom of your phone, potential damaging your micro usb port or constantly disconnecting. My invention will work so well you wont even notice its there allowing you effortlessly enjoy all your movies, music and pictures anywhere you go!

nudistxda said:
if the price is reasonable and the profile is slim it sounds like you've got a winner
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This product will cost around 40 to 50 USD, and have a very slim profile!

Re: Necessity is the mother of invention - Increase storage capacity to 256GB or more
$40-$50...that seems reasonable...really interested, any chance of posting a picture of it? Maybe render an image of what you have in mind using a computer? Maybe have it be like a case with slots that connects through the micro USB port, sorta like a rechargeable battery case.
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707BeastMode707 said:
$40-$50...that seems reasonable...really interested, any chance of posting a picture of it? Maybe render an image of what you have in mind using a computer? Maybe have it be like a case with slots that connects through the micro USB port, sorta like a rechargeable battery case.
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No pictures until i receive my pending patent, I hope you understand this is a very delicate situation. I promise i will have a fully functional prototype ready to go in less than one month w/ pictures. Its very important to me that the price is reasonable, lastly i will include support for otg + power through the micro USB port.

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I would definitely like to have something like this. My phone is my mp3 player and I'm not a fan of streaming my own music from a cloud, especially with sprint's slow data.

metalfan78 said:
I would definitely like to have something like this. My phone is my mp3 player and I'm not a fan of streaming my own music from a cloud, especially with sprint's slow data.
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I agree my sprint data speeds are horrid, plus no LTE in my area.

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Blakroc said:
My invention will have otg support and allow you to use both SD and microsd cards on the fly. Most importantly you wont have an otg cable or adapter dangling from the bottom of your phone, potential damaging your micro usb port or constantly disconnecting. My invention will work so well you wont even notice its there allowing you effortlessly enjoy all your movies, music and pictures anywhere you go!
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The adapter I have doesn't hook up like that. It plugs directly into the micro SD slot via ribbon cable, and is contained completely under the back cover. But, I can see the value in what you're talking about. If I may make a suggestion, if it is like a phone case, put a kickstand on the back.

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Blakroc said:
Hey! Thanks for checking in! I came up with an idea for an invention that I think will be a great addition to this community! My idea involves developing hardware for specific Android tablets and smartphones to increase their storage capacity. This invention doe not exist in the marketplace today, the truth is from ios to android everyone wants more storage for their mobile devices.
This invention would be low profile and connect seamlessly to your smartphone or tablet. Everyone knows you can buy an otg cable for extra storage or purchase the Kingston Wi‑Drive, but who wants to lug around a wireless hard drive the same size of your already large smartphone or worse have an otg cable dangling around to fall out or break your micro USB port.
My invention will allow for flexibility and mobility, you can workout or even go jogging without the use of a flimsy otg cable or an unnecessary WiFi hard drive that has a limited battery capacity. One of my biggest hurdles will be allowing you to have all of this tech in a very small footprint that connects seamlessly with your target device. Files are stored locally via SD or microSD without the use of cloud storage (Cloud storage can be your worst enemy if your not on a unlimited data plan). All of your movies, music and pictures will be available on the fly for local commutes or long distance traveling.
With the rise of HD content and smartphones being effective laptop replacements, having more storage has become essential. My biggest concern is makeing sure this invention is affordable. At launch i will not include SD or microSD flash memory due to its high cost. Remember i want this invention to be around 40 to 50 USD (That price would skyrocket if i included flash memory). No worries, I will include a built in SD & microSD card reader so you can swap out your storage on the fly.
Invention details:
- Maximum Storage capacity of 256GB not including your internal storage
(Depending on your device you can can max out your storage capacity to 384GB).
- Change SD or microSD on the fly (SD SDHC SDXC microSD microSDHC microSDXC)
- Unit will allow for flexibility and mobility
- All your data will be stored locally
- Supports OTG + Power
Other supported products in the future:
- Samsung Galaxy nexus
- Nexus 7
- Nexus 10
- Samsung Galaxy S II
- Samsung Galaxy Note
- Samsung Galaxy Note II
- Droid Razr
More Devices to come...
I want to start an open discussion about the future of this invention, please leave your feedback and any insights you have. This invention will be in the market in 3 months time starting with the Samsung Galaxy S III for all carriers.
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Re: Necessity is the mother of invention - Increase storage capacity to 256GB or more
Hey tedkord, what adapter did you buy? Does it work good? I've been looking at the ones you describe but haven't decided on one yet.

How you justify not getting the 32gb for $40 more

as the tittle says how can you get the 16GB knowing the 32GB is just $40 more I know a lot of people don't need the extra space bla bla bla but at the end of the day the 32GB is the best deal

Speedy Gonzalez said:
as the tittle says how can you get the 16GB knowing the 32GB is just $40 more I know a lot of people don't need the extra space bla bla bla but at the end of the day the 32GB is the best deal
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I went with the 32, I was actually running out of space on the 16 and as you pointed out the price diff being so minimal, why not.

The cloud =þ, I don't use a lot of internal space, and I rather have a lot of my documents sync through out my other devices. $40 can still be a lot for some, but I'm glad they aren't charging $75+ like on other devices. Kind of wish they had expansion slots just in case you needed the extra space.

Because with that $40 savings I bought a Chromecast and still had $5 for a milkshake

well you could plug a 32GB SD card for less than that........ owh wait you can't!!!!

I just never needed it on my last one. I only load up videos when i know I'm going to need them. even on my last trip, with 6 HD movies i still had 2GB free.
I'm not a big tablet gamer though....and that extra cash will come in handy for other, more important things in my life....like a chromecast...or you know, baby food or something

IMO you only need the space for music and videos.
My kids, I keep with tablets with MicroSD - so I can slap a bunch of video/TV on there for trips and stuff.
Me, I don't need the space because I don't watch movies or TV on it, and music goes on my phone. I'd rather read wherever I'm at.
I use it for browsing / email / DOS and console emulation and the occasional pdf. I read on my e-ink nook. I watch movies and TV on my plasma/HT setup. 16GB is plenty enough.
I don't game on them either - I have only minor interest in the occasional tablet game. If I game it's DOS emulation, NES, SNES, or something like that. 16GB is plenty of room for that stuff.

greenmky said:
IMO you only need the space for music and videos.
My kids, I keep with tablets with MicroSD - so I can slap a bunch of video/TV on there for trips and stuff.
Me, I don't need the space because I don't watch movies or TV on it, and music goes on my phone. I'd rather read wherever I'm at.
I use it for browsing / email / DOS and console emulation and the occasional pdf. I read on my e-ink nook. I watch movies and TV on my plasma/HT setup. 16GB is plenty enough.
I don't game on them either - I have only minor interest in the occasional tablet game. If I game it's DOS emulation, NES, SNES, or something like that. 16GB is plenty of room for that stuff.
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This exactly.
I have a OTG cable that I used on my Nexus 7 when I was going on trips for movies.

Because the only ones I could find available today (in Austin) were at Bestbuy and they were only selling the 16 G and I wanted mine NOWWWW!!

xene97 said:
Because with that $40 savings I bought a Chromecast and still had $5 for a milkshake
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what he said, I scored both as well.

Because I never filled up the 16GB on my S3 and $40 is a decent amount of money. With most media apps using the cloud now, the only thing I'd use space for is the apps I download and any pictures/videos I take, and I can't see using the Nexus 7 for its (inferior) camera when I always have my phone with me.
All my apps just got downloaded when I signed in to my Google account, the phone shows 11.94GB total usable, I have 10.84GB available. I'm just over 1GB, after I sync some music and put some eBooks on it, I'll still probably have over half the space free.

they say the N7 has 9 hours of HD video play back battery life. I better have enough storage for 9 hours of HD contents. So I went with 32gb.

watzone69 said:
Because the only ones I could find available today (in Austin) were at Bestbuy and they were only selling the 16 G and I wanted mine NOWWWW!!
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Fellow Austinite here. I can confirm that this is true and I have to go all the way to Bee Caves to pick mine up.

I got the 32gb, but yeah I read somewhere that the difference that it costs companies to make thier tablet a 32gb instead of a 16gb is $4.00 for them. So there you go.

Even better, not $40 - try 15. Pick it up from best buy on amex with the current amex sync offer and the 16gb won't make the cut of $250 for the $25 back (unless you live in CA) but the 32gb does. Makes the choice simple.
Then add on the staples coupon and BAM!

I just use mine to stream so Im good. 16GB all the way

OTG is all I need !
I have some many flash devices besides MicroSDs.
The adapter doesn't bother me 1 bit. Rather I prefer it (as a reminder to put away my data).
I have the TF101 (w/microSD) and I forget the card in there all the times.
Now all my microSDs are in the USB-adapter --> harder to get lost.

Because I have a 64G microsd in my Droid Razr, a 32G in my Samsung Note 10.1 and a 64G on my keychain. Plus a dozen others of various sizes.
Once I get my OTG cable for the Nexus 7, I will be able to swap 224G between my devices. (no, its not a math error. That $40 is going to pay for most of the $48 that the new 64G Sandisk costs on Amazon. (for the OTG dongle)

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Because I have a 64G microsd in my Droid Razr, a 32G in my Samsung Note 10.1 and a 64G on my keychain. Plus a dozen others of various sizes.
Once I get my OTG cable for the Nexus 7, I will be able to swap 224G between my devices. (no, its not a math error. That $40 is going to pay for most of the $48 that the new 64G Sandisk costs on Amazon. (for the OTG dongle)
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Eh OTG is not nearly as reliable and easy to use as internal storage especially if you travel much out use your tab on the go.
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Gabik123 said:
Even better, not $40 - try 15. Pick it up from best buy on amex with the current amex sync offer and the 16gb won't make the cut of $250 for the $25 back (unless you live in CA) but the 32gb does. Makes the choice simple.
Then add on the staples coupon and BAM!
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This! I did this earlier today. 235.09 out the door including taxes after 25$ AMEX sync!

Question Storage Space & Why

I ordered the 256gb option, but with cloud storage these days I don't really need it. I currently have a OP 8 Pro with 256gb and I'm only using 72gb.
What size storage did you order and why?

512GB. Sure I probably won't need all of that space but go big or go home right lol. I'm just now really getting onto the cloud bandwagon. Had Samsung devices with SD cards the last few years so if I need extra storage I would just go that route.

I ordered the 512gb option. The marina where I keep my houseboat does not have the best cell service. In the summertime when many people are there, the service can drop to under 1mbs. I keep all my music on my phone. Also, I keep many work files on it. If I am at a customer site, I can hook my phone up and transfer large files to their computer. We do keep these files on dropbox, but I like having them with me just in case the internet is down. I can also keep a backup of any key files so I have one more source of backup.

Using about 50% of my pixel 5 128gb storage, so I ordered the 256gb just to have extra room just in case, but I feel I won't even need it.

I'm not even using the 128 GB on my OnePlus 6 so I also went with the 128 GB version of the Pixel.

I currently have 2XL with 64gb and using about half of it, so I went for 128gb model, the lowest. I keep my media on my tablet anyway, that's where I have more memory.

I ordered 256gb why? I will keep for at least 2 years and for 4K video

I wanted the 512 gb option in black (mainly for resale) but the only option available when I ordered was 128gb.
My storage is rarely, if ever, over 50gb on any of my devices so it's more than enough.

I ordered the Black in 512Gb just because!

Sorta Sunny in 128GB? Why? Because that's the only option available for some reason!
Though, even if larger capacities were available, I would have gone with 128GB anyway. Everything I do with the phone is offloaded to the cloud anyway, and I am never above 60% of the 128GB capacity I have now.

512 GB. 400 GB+ of local FLAC format music.

Truth be told, I have no idea why I selected 256GB vs 128. I routinely use the "clean" and "free up storage" in the Google Files and Google Photos apps respectively. I just checked the storage on my Pixel 5 and I have 98.17 GB free out of 128. I do have a Google Drive subscription so it also cuts out local storage along with streaming everything.
Guess I'll quit the cleaning and freeing up storage and start using some of that 256 as a backup.

TehKing said:
Sorta Sunny in 128GB? Why? Because that's the only option available for some reason!
Though, even if larger capacities were available, I would have gone with 128GB anyway. Everything I do with the phone is offloaded to the cloud anyway, and I am never above 60% of the 128GB capacity I have now.
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You never go on holidays, making videos? If you are overseas, for example making some videos about a show that lasts for like 30min, that will take up many GB - and you can't upload at the hotel, simply because no hotel has decent internet speed around. The data will stay on your phone until you get home. If you make another round of videos, have fun. Imagine you stay somewhere for 3 weeks and after 3 rounds of videos you are already at your max. Happened to me more than once.
And that's just one way to fill up that kind of small storage. No idea how people can be satisfied with having small sized storage. Imagine you need to download some audiobooks or high quality TIDAL music for a long airplane flight, or some offline 4K videos, or 4K porn. That's just ramping up those tiny GB. Just because you don't need the storage now, I can think of 10 scenarios easily where the average joe in a certain circumstance will have serious problems if he wants to use his phone to it's full potential. Also don't forget that the P6 Pro shoots 4k60FPS, that's double the data needed most of us people here are used to with P4 or whatever that can only shoot 4k30fps. And we still don't know if the 50 MP shooter won't require bigger more storage (even though some argued that it will be toned down to 1/4 ergo 12,5 MP) - we will see.

Morgrain said:
You never go on holidays, making videos? If you are overseas, for example making some videos about a show that lasts for like 30min, that will take up many GB - and you can't upload at the hotel, simply because no hotel has decent internet speed around. The data will stay on your phone until you get home. If you make another round of videos, have fun. Imagine you stay somewhere for 3 weeks and after 3 rounds of videos you are already at your max. Happened to me more than once.
And that's just one way to fill up that kind of small storage. No idea how people can be satisfied with having small sized storage. Imagine you need to download some audiobooks or high quality TIDAL music for a long airplane flight, or some offline 4K videos, or 4K porn. That's just ramping up those tiny GB. Just because you don't need the storage now, I can think of 10 scenarios easily where the average joe in a certain circumstance will have serious problems if he wants to use his phone to it's full potential. Also don't forget that the P6 Pro shoots 4k60FPS, that's double the data needed most of us people here are used to with P4 or whatever that can only shoot 4k30fps. And we still don't know if the 50 MP shooter won't require bigger more storage (even though some argued that it will be toned down to 1/4 ergo 12,5 MP) - we will see.
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With my usage patterns, storage is a non-issue for me, and if it were I can easily off-load via an OTG adapter and whichever TB or larger drive I wish to use if I don't have access to a reliable data connection.

128 GB for me. Currently using 10 GB on a Nexus 6 with all my data backed up to a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud.

I went 128 since that's all I really require...and to get the order in on crazy launch day!

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I went 128 since that's all I really require...and to get the order in on crazy launch day!
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And to save $100 that can be put to better use.

Stormy Black 512 GB. While it's not a regular occurrence, I have had to clean the storage on my 256 GB OnePlus 7 Pro a few times and I'd prefer not to have to deal with that. I don't mind paying an extra $100 on a $1000 phone that I plan to keep for at least 2 years, especially since I got $15 of it back through Google One credits and credit card points.
Even though I had to wipe my phone this spring, I currently have 81 GB in apps, ~40 GB in photos and video recordings (which I do sync with the cloud but I prefer having local access to recent ones) as well as ~70 GB in files (app backups, game data, music, and downloaded video for offline viewing mainly). With system and other miscellaneous files that leaves me at 208 GB used.

znel52 said:
512GB. Sure I probably won't need all of that space but go big or go home right lol. I'm just now really getting onto the cloud bandwagon. Had Samsung devices with SD cards the last few years so if I need extra storage I would just go that route.
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Haha I probably only need 128, but I love having the option to have more space.. so exactly my thiknning as well, go big or go home.

crescentmage said:
Stormy Black 512 GB. While it's not a regular occurrence, I have had to clean the storage on my 256 GB OnePlus 7 Pro a few times and I'd prefer not to have to deal with that. I don't mind paying an extra $100 on a $1000 phone that I plan to keep for at least 2 years, especially since I got $15 of it back through Google One credits and credit card points.
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Traveling on buses, trains, and planes means that internet service can be spotty in areas, and I prefer to have some movies and music saved to my device. I also used my phone as a mini USB flash drive to back up documents and system files/drivers for other devices, just in case my laptop gets a virus and needs to be reformatted.
Most people seem to be buying one level up from what they normally use. I'm currently at 127 GB of 128 GB on my Pixel 4 XL, so I considered buying the 256 GB model, but, like you, I also got 10% + Reward points, and decided to just pay the extra $100.00 for 512 GB.
I have a bad habit of upgrading my device every year, while saving money in other areas, but skipped the Pixel 5 because it didn't seem like a true upgrade, compared to my Pixel 4 XL. I can't predict the future, so I don't know Google's plans, but if the Pixel 7 is a mid-range device, or lacks an XL/Pro model, I'll happily keep my Pixel 6 Pro for 2 years, so the extra storage is a little future proofing as well.
File sizes, pictures, videos, seem to get bigger, as resolution and sound improvements are made. I'd rather have too much than not enough. As an aside, when I purchased an Iphone 12 Pro Max for a family member last year, I got them the 256 GB model, in part, because the 512 GB model was $200 more.
If Google was using Apple's pricing structure, paying an extra $200 for 512 GB would've been a tougher sell, but if I keep the phone for a longer period, or sell it in the future, the extra $100 should be easy to recoup in one way or another.
For those that are interested, here is Apple's pricing structure, for the Iphone 13 Pro Max:
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Does anyone think it's fair to assume that Google's profit margin on the 512 GB model is substantially higher than other models? I can't imagine it actually costs much more to add a 512 GB memory chip vs. 128 or 256. Does anyone know, based on market conditions, supply/demand, if those 512 GB (or 1 TB chips, in Apple's case) are really that expensive?