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32GB sandisk microSDHC for $99

just a heads up... did a search on this forum for "32GB" and didnt find anything. didnt bother searching "microsdhc" since so many people would have a different way of typing it out that it would be near impossible to find on a search.
anyways, Verizon Wireless seems to have the SanDisk 32GB microSDHC cards IN STOCK and is selling them for $99 online with free overnight shipping. most places havent had stock EVER since it was released a couple of months ago. original retail price on them began at $240 or something.
unfortunately, these are Class 2 only, but generally it's not the card that's the bottleneck when it comes to speed on your device. i popped mine in this morning when it arrived and have had no problems with reading at all; 350mb XviD avi rips of TV shows like Rescue Me and 550mb XviD avi rips of Top Gear all play back flawlessly on my Samsung Vibrant.
write speeds have a bit to be desired, but i cant complain due to faster cards being unavailable. compared to my Class 6 16GB card, it has no ill effects from what i have so far observed while in the device.
cliffs: $99 for a SanDisk 32GB microSDHC from verizonwireless.com with free overnight shipping. normal price from them is $150, but is on special for now... the original deal was $50 off with the purchase of a Droid X, but that seems to have changed for a limited time. cheapest i can find it anywhere else using Google Shopping is $140 before tax+shipping.

Thanks for the heads up. Do a search on Engadget for an article on it (I can't post the link). Apparently it just hit the store 8 days ago.
Still, I dunno. I'm kind of on the fence about getting it due to the price (just dropped $550 on the phone itself).
oakie said:
it has no ill effects from what i have so far observed while in the device.
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So no lag skipping/playing music files or video?

lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone

SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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real users only need 640k.
anyway, is $100 for it even a good deal? I see 16GB micro sdhc for like $40 (newegg link).

SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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Because I want to be able to ditch my MP3 player (which currently has 30+ gigs of music) and use my phone exclusively. One less thing to carry around.

designerfx said:
real users only need 640k.
anyway, is $100 for it even a good deal? I see 16GB micro sdhc for like $40 (newegg link).
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How many slots does your phone have?
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How many slots does your phone have?
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What does this have to do with my vibrant? I would hope most people know it's only got one place to put a micro sdhc

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What does this have to do with my vibrant? I would hope most people know it's only got one place to put a micro sdhc
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I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.

ben7337 said:
I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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Ding ding ding - winnar!
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ben7337 said:
I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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designerfx said:
What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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I know at least for me, there's never enough space. Unless they somehow manage to offer Terabyte microSD cards. Even the, I'm sure I'd find a sure for it.
Music, movies, games, ebooks, audiobooks, work files, space for pictures and videos, etc.
Do you NEED to have that much stuff on you? No, but it's nice to have access to everthing and worry less about space.
I know I have 14gb of music on my card and that's mostly just ONE genre of music. I have over 150gb of music. And yes, I do listen to all 14gb that I do have on there. It's good to have access to lots of music for parties and get togethers. Remote access is not always a perfect solution.
Again, I don't NEED all the space, but I sure as heck will use it when I have it.
If I had more space, I'd also partition space on my phone for portable apps. Having access to FireFox, GIMP, Openoffice, 7zip, etc wherever I go is a huge plus.

Maverick777 said:
I know at least for me, there's never enough space. Unless they somehow manage to offer Terabyte microSD cards. Even the, I'm sure I'd find a sure for it.
Music, movies, games, ebooks, audiobooks, work files, space for pictures and videos, etc.
Do you NEED to have that much stuff on you? No, but it's nice to have access to everthing and worry less about space.
I know I have 14gb of music on my card and that's mostly just ONE genre of music. I have over 150gb of music. And yes, I do listen to all 14gb that I do have on there. It's good to have access to lots of music for parties and get togethers. Remote access is not always a perfect solution.
Again, I don't NEED all the space, but I sure as heck will use it when I have it.
If I had more space, I'd also partition space on my phone for portable apps. Having access to FireFox, GIMP, Openoffice, 7zip, etc wherever I go is a huge plus.
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well yes, I agree, there are things to use the space. I'm just saying given the phone limitations wouldn't it be easier to dropbox and/or grab crap off the pc? The thing does have allshare/server capabilities to make that easier.

designerfx said:
well yes, I agree, there are things to use the space. I'm just saying given the phone limitations wouldn't it be easier to dropbox and/or grab crap off the pc? The thing does have allshare/server capabilities to make that easier.
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Do you need to be plugged into the PC to get the files off of it? I assume you do, but even if you didn't, think of all the battery power wasted to get the files when you want them. e.g. let's say I am on a bus or stuck waiting for something and want to watch a show or movie on my pc on my phone. I'd need to get on 3g, hope it can all stream fast enough, and the battery would run out super fast using 3g and playing a video all at once.
Also as for the 32gb 16gb argument. I might be able to work with limited storage, but I personally could fill about 5tb or more with anime and movies and tv shows that I'd like, and if I could carry all of that on my phone, and be able to select anything I want immediately and have it right there, that would be amazingly convenient. Therefore as far as I am concerned 16gb, 32gb, it's never really enough, people can always fill more space. However I will deal with having only a 16gb card on my Epic 4G when it comes out.

I thought the max microSD card the phone accepts is 16 gigs as per specs supplied in the manual. Guess those are wrong then? Good to know! Thanks for posting this topic!!
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SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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Duh, for all the porn you gotta shove on the ***** for on-the-go wanking!!! lmao

Wonder if you could rig it up to work with a WHS box streaming from home? Just a thought. That's what I'll do at work tomorrow I think.

bobofosho123 said:
Duh, for all the porn you gotta shove on the ***** for on-the-go wanking!!! lmao
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What else are you going to do with that beautiful AMOLED screen? Duh

designerfx said:
What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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i can fit 20GB of movies, TV shows, and music on a single card without having to connect my phone to a computer to add more.
THAT wont fit on a 16GB card. i dont carry my laptop wherever i go, therefore i dont really have access to any data beyond the 16GB card. maybe you are always near your computer, but i'm not.

Inat said:
So no lag skipping/playing music files or video?
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none.
i set the removable card slot as the save point for the camcorder app and recorded nearly 7 minutes of video with lots of movement. no issues when recording.
i then played it back using both the built-in video player and eStrong File Explorer's built-in video player and experienced no dropped frames, freezing, or slowdowns, nor did the audio and video go out of sync.
i'm a hobbyist photographer so reliable, fast memory cards are something i'm always on the lookout for. because of this, i've sampled a lot of different brands in the past (i'm always testing different brands to try and find cheaper alternatives for my camera) and have found that SanDisk flash memory cards are consistently much faster than their rated spec. this result with the 32GB microSD is probably no different nor that unusual, based on my previous experience.
if i have some free time this morning and will do some read/write tests of the SanDisk 32GB Class 2 card alongside the original Samsung 2GB card that the Vibrant came with, a SanDisk 2GB Class 2 card, and a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 card i used in my HD2.

SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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designerfx said:
What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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i really dont understand how anyone can manage to COMPLAIN about more data space, or that someone bothered to share a good deal they had found. either you people lead unhappy lives or you're lashing out because you're unable to afford one... because there's no logical explanation you can create to support an argument against a 32GB card except price.
Texag2010 said:
I thought the max microSD card the phone accepts is 16 gigs as per specs supplied in the manual. Guess those are wrong then? Good to know! Thanks for posting this topic!!
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the microSDHC spec allows for up to 32GB. it's just taken this long (released in the beginning of this year, or so) for a company to create a chip dense enough to reliably manufacture a 32GB microSD card.
the new spec, microSDXC, will cover sizes ranging from 32GB up to 2TB in the Secure Digital format. 64GB SDXC cards are already available from Panasonic and SanDisk.

Slowdown with MicroSD upgrade?

So I went ahead and bought the Microcenter Class 2 16GB MicroSDHC card, which is on the approved list, and aside from the irritating discovery that Zune doesn't actually backup the phone and let you restore it, all's working well.
But I think I'm perceiving something of a slowdown in the feel of the OS since installing the card. It's not massive, I can't measure it, but it just "feels" slower generally while navigating the OS, loading things, etc.
Anybody else notice this or am I high on crack? Oh, and just to be clear I'm using a brand new Samsung Focus.

The quality of the SD card make a massive difference. I first put in a 16gb no-name card into my Mozart, and I honestly thought I'd broken the phone in the teardown to get to the SD slot. The whole OS lagged and there were 5 second hangs on the frontend screen. Generally nasty.
I've since switched to a Sandisk Class 4 32gb and it's gone back to being completely fast and smooth.

From what I've heard, Class 2 might be a bit too slow for WP7.

OK, cool (well, not cool, but you know what I mean--at least I feel less like I'm hallucinating imaginary slowdowns! that's good to have confirmation. I'm gonna return this sucker and snag a sandisk class 4 then.

I also have a class 4 sandisk 32Gb in my WP7. I haven't experienced any slowdown. But then again I put it in right when the sales agent handed me the phone so I don't know if there was any difference.
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Now: Samsung Focus WP7 (32 GB micorSD)
Then: HTC Kaiser (Tilt) WM6.1(8 GB microSD)
Before: HP iPaq 4705 WM2003SE (6GB Compact Flash)
Prehistoric: Dell Axim X5 PocketPC2002 (6GB Compact Flash)

In a few places my focus feels slightly slower with my sandisk 16GB microSDHC class 4.. but it's so minuscule that I could chalk it up to perceived slowness.

Sir. Haxalot said:
From what I've heard, Class 2 might be a bit too slow for WP7.
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I've had zero problems with my class 2 and there absolutely was no slowdown whatsoever. Quality counts and it may be that size counts also. Mine is an 8GB Sandisk. I've been reading here and there that people who have had problems have cards larger than 8GB almost without exception. If you stripe two hard drives of different sizes you don't get the sum of the two, you get double the size of the smallest drive and the rest is ignored. You can make a partition out of it but that's immaterial. The phone is different in that you get the sum of internal and SD memory but I'd assume it's only going to stripe the first 8GB. If it hits that boundary in the middle of a memory operation does it suddenly have to switch how it reads that memory? If so, it is the source of some instability? I don't know but it is starting to kind of look that way.

markgamber said:
If you stripe two hard drives of different sizes you don't get the sum of the two, you get double the size of the smallest drive and the rest is ignored.
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Just as well wp7 doesn't use striping then.

Jim Coleman said:
Just as well wp7 doesn't use striping then.
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its something like "jbod" I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_Array_of_Independent_Disks
edit : linked to en version .

Got a class 2 Sandisk 32GB card in my Mozart and there's actually no slowdown noticeable. Read somewhere that speed is not limited by the SD Class, but something like possible operations at the same time..

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Just as well wp7 doesn't use striping then.
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Really? I've read all over the place that it does, hence the need to reset the phone when removing or adding a card.

Got a new Sandisk 16GB class 4 last night, wiped the device and installed it--not only is it back up to its original speed, not only are there no waits for icons to refresh on the start page, but get this: I got an extra 2GB out of it. With the Microcenter card the system reported 20GB available fresh--with the Sandisk, it reports 22GB.
All in all, I'm going to agree with avoiding one of two things: either class 2 cards (which makes sense, even if the difference is really small), or Microcenter cards. I'm not clear which, butat least I can say conclusively that the sandisk card works well

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Really? I've read all over the place that it does, hence the need to reset the phone when removing or adding a card.
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Thats not why it has to be reset. Search works
Its cause of the way WP7 secures the card.
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[Q] How many people wanted removable storage on a Galaxy Nexus?

Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.

I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.

I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.

Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.

The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.

If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.

i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol

Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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dragonzsoul said:
less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.

Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.

SomeGuyDude said:
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.

Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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fdm1 said:
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.

blunden said:
You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN

what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?

I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true

i dont care about SD suport.

streets814 said:
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net

[Q] A couple of questions regarding sdhc card + screen protectors

What's the difference between class? I see class 10 and class 4, class 4 is a lot cheaper then 10 but what's the actual difference? Does class 10 transfer files faster or something?
and also can anybody recommend a good screen protector? I had one come free with my case on eBay but it doesn't even fit the whole screen
Thanks all

Class refers to the minimum read/write speed in MB/sec. Reputable brands actually adhere to these speeds while others are relatively meaningless.

As stated above for SD cards.
And for screen protectors, get Xtreme guards, simoly looked amazing in my One X. Waiting for them to come in the mail for the S3 now.
Sent from my sexy white Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile.

Does it really matter though?

SD speed?
Depends on what you do with that card.
If it's a big card and you often transfer large files to and from it, transfer speed does matter.
If you record HD videos directly to your sd card and your card isn't fast enough your video might stutter or have artifacts.
If you put games on your SD card and those games depend on high transfer rates, you might get lag.
But since the S3 has at least 16GB of internal memory you should have enough space to put stuff that need high transfer rates to your fast internal memory.
A class 2 or 4 sd card should suffice for most people. If you need the high transfer rates though, you'll have to go with a faster card.

Cards get memory lag which means they slower to access files when they filled with a load of files, so ignore the class ratings because a decent quality Class 4 works better in everyday use than a cheap Class 10 even if it can potentially transfer faster.
And files for a phone aren't usually neatly lined up so easily the best value card is Class 6 or 10 SanDisk Ultra then you know your phone can handle anything you throw at it.

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SD speed?
Depends on what you do with that card.
If it's a big card and you often transfer large files to and from it, transfer speed does matter.
If you record HD videos directly to your sd card and your card isn't fast enough your video might stutter or have artifacts.
If you put games on your SD card and those games depend on high transfer rates, you might get lag.
But since the S3 has at least 16GB of internal memory you should have enough space to put stuff that need high transfer rates to your fast internal memory.
A class 2 or 4 sd card should suffice for most people. If you need the high transfer rates though, you'll have to go with a faster card.
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Ahh okay, I plan on watching movies and stuff I'll just go with the class 10 over the cheaper one I just wanted to know how it would affect phone use
I'm going to get this I think:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sandisk-U...ain_3&hash=item4abb2020b8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_969
16gb is more then enough for me plus the 11gb I have in my internal storage

UrbanDesigns said:
Ahh okay, I plan on watching movies and stuff I'll just go with the class 10 over the cheaper one I just wanted to know how it would affect phone use
I'm going to get this I think:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sandisk-U...ain_3&hash=item4abb2020b8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_969
16gb is more then enough for me plus the 11gb I have in my internal storage
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Look for a seller with a much higher feedback because there's a serious chance you could get scammed with a fake card there.
But if you find a genuine one that is a good one, but personally I'd spend a bit more for the 32gb card then you know you've always got enough space if your needs change.

Geordie Lad said:
Look for a seller with a much higher feedback because there's a serious chance you could get scammed with a fake card there.
But if you find a genuine one that is a good one, but personally I'd spend a bit more for the 32gb card then you know you've always got enough space if your needs change.
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Oh yeah I just saw the feedback, how can I see if it's fake? I'd definitely return the card if it turned out to be fake..
I looked at his feedback and 2 people have said the cards were good

UrbanDesigns said:
Oh yeah I just saw the feedback, how can I see if it's fake? I'd definitely return the card if it turned out to be fake..
I looked at his feedback and 2 people have said the cards were good
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People setup new accounts and build up a few hundred fake feedback pm more people are likely to buy from them, I mean I'm not saying by any means this is a scammer but just find another seller with feedback in the thousands to be more safe.
And the only way to tell if it's a fake is run a benchmark in your computer and check the card and packaging look real compared to pictures.

If you only want to watch movies a class10 is probably overkill. The problem is when you want to use the camera to record 1080p movies.
There is a difference between write and read speeds of flash memory like sd cards. They usually are pretty fast when it comes to reading but writing speed is another matter.
You should be fine with a good class4 card like one from sandisk.

shamez23 said:
If you only want to watch movies a class10 is probably overkill. The problem is when you want to use the camera to record 1080p movies.
There is a difference between write and read speeds of flash memory like sd cards. They usually are pretty fast when it comes to reading but writing speed is another matter.
You should be fine with a good class4 card like one from sandisk.
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what about writing to my internal and copying over to my SD if I need to?

Writing from your internal to your external memory will be as slow/fast as writing from a cardreader to your sd card. Depending on the writing speed of said card.
When your sd card is too slow for direct 1080p recording your suggestion is a valid way to record those videos without lag. Record onto the fast internal memory and then move it to the slower external memory when you need space on the internal one. The sd card will still be fast enough to play the video.
Would be annoying if you had to do that a lot, though. If that's the case you should spend the extra money for a faster sd card.
I have no idea how fast that card has to be. I never had a device that can record in 1080p. However, I'm using an htc hd2 and run most of my apps(including games) from my sd card and in the beginning even the OS. I never noticed any stuttering or lag that didn't come from the OS itself. I've been using sandisk class2 for that and moved to a bigger sandisk class4 recently. No decernible improvement other than that it's a little faster to copy files from my computer to my phone and back, now.
Those cards are rather inexpensive nowadays, especially when we are talking about only 16GB. Don't think about it too much. Just buy one and try. If you have problems with the speed, use it as a flash drive and get a faster card for your phone.

UrbanDesigns said:
Ahh okay, I plan on watching movies and stuff I'll just go with the class 10 over the cheaper one I just wanted to know how it would affect phone use
I'm going to get this I think:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sandisk-U...ain_3&hash=item4abb2020b8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_969
16gb is more then enough for me plus the 11gb I have in my internal storage
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I'm surprised noone has mentioned this yet. But do not buy that card. That auction is for a SDHC card, our phones are only compatible with Micro SD(HC) cards. If you buy that card, you will not be able to use it in your phone. You will need to find a Micro SDHC card.

To be honest I can't even see me using the 11GB you get on the phone unless it's music, an 8GB would do me just fine but I'm going to get the 16GB just in case, I'm only really getting one for rooting

UrbanDesigns said:
What's the difference between class? I see class 10 and class 4, class 4 is a lot cheaper then 10 but what's the actual difference? Does class 10 transfer files faster or something?
and also can anybody recommend a good screen protector? I had one come free with my case on eBay but it doesn't even fit the whole screen
Thanks all
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Where are you located?

rudedog1979 said:
Where are you located?
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I'm in the UK, and I've got a question about the trident case too.
It has a screen that you put over the front, does this mean I'll have to detach the case just to use the phone? The otterbox case looks great and well worth the money after seeing an anchor get dropped without leaving a mark on the case let alone the phone

UrbanDesigns said:
I'm in the UK, and I've got a question about the trident case too.
It has a screen that you put over the front, does this mean I'll have to detach the case just to use the phone? The otterbox case looks great and well worth the money after seeing an anchor get dropped without leaving a mark on the case let alone the phone
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If you are in the UK, I think you should have a look to this people ebay, I buy everything from them, they now have a nice screen protector and various cases and battery covers (I personally take a lot of care of my phone), check this out:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/monikaeshop/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
Have a special look at the carbon fiber cover and also the privacy screen protector....
Some pictures of my galaxy with them on :

Galaxy Note II - Storage question

Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.

Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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Internal NAND is usually orders of magnitude faster. Also, it is less complicated to deal with when you dont have to play the "Which Partition To Use Today" game.

Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.

I appreciate all the responses so far. I'm thinking I might just get the 32 GB middle-ground in this case (which is what I did when I bought my to-be-replaced iPhone 4), and it's served me well enough. If the difference between 32 GB and 64 GB ends up being $50.00 I'll likely just pick up the larger one as, at least in Canada, it's a 3-year phone term, so, I might as well add as much life to it as I can up front.
I definitely agree with the NAND vs MSDHC performance. The reason I only question it is that I am, of course, thinking of only doing a media dump on the device. Now, I also plan on loading in direct Blu-ray to 720p files, so, I'm not sure of the performance marker there of pulling 720p content from a MSDHC to the device would be, but I can only imagine my performance would be better realised if I was pulling it direct off the NAND.
I guess it'll come down to price, more than anything. I am not heavy into doing large-media storage, so, I doubt there will be much going on where I really need to hit 128 GB of space, but, you know, having the option is nice, especially when travelling around. At least Samsung didn't decide to get foolish and only offer the internal NAND as options, MSDHC is definitely a very nice feature in a device that's intended to bridge the smartphone and tablet market.

...it will also come down to what AT&T offers!!!!
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Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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It's the same game that has been around for decades now regarding storage space and price. The price per unit of storage is always going down and your usage of said storage is always going up. One day you will be wondering how you lived with anything less than an Exabyte of space and laugh at those who paid $100 per terabyte. There are only relative usage profiles for the space and everyone's budget is also relative. For me, I will be rocking the 64GB variant with a 64GB micro SD card and claim 128GB in 2012... but you sir will have the last laugh at my expense

16gb internal with micro sd is better, so all game data will go to internal sd, while all your important file(pics,mp3,vids etc) in your micro sd(whatever size it is) much safer if something wrong happen to internal sd
32gb way to much, better having a large micro sd than internal sd
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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.

fr8cture said:
If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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16gb wont enough?
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robyr said:
Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
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Sweeping comment, TROLLING?? I have seen many Micro SD cards from Sandisk reaching upto 100MBps despite being marketed as Class 10. This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE comment as there is no holy grail engraved in your beloved "NAND" Flash. Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
One major benefit of having 64GB onboard would be Micro SD card will become more redundant if you live with that space for years. Also, you would have an opportunity to have upto 124GB or so when using 64GB Micro SD cards (I am optimistic though that these new phones may support even higher capacity 128GB or so MSD cards may be after some software tweaks by some of our dev gurus here).

rashid.fairus said:
16gb wont enough?
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Not for me. I ran out of storage already.
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Prankey said:
Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
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All card readers/writers have their throughput limits.
How fast the note 2's is is yet to be determined.
Has anyone determined the max write /read speed of the note 1?
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