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So long, and thanks for all the ROMs!

Sprint has been frustrating me for the last year, with dropped calls, no service, slow data speeds, when I had amazing speeds, and great coverage from May 2007 - Jan 2011. So, I switched to Big Red. I know it costs more, but I'm getting what I pay for.
The Epic 4G Touch is probably the best phone I've ever owned. And I've enjoyed the support it has received from the talented devs. I really hope Sprint gets its act together, and fixes their network, as I know I'm not the only one who has been complaining about Sprint service.
Maybe I'll be back one day. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope Sprint comes through for you.

tokuzumi said:
Sprint has been frustrating me for the last year, with dropped calls, no service, slow data speeds, when I had amazing speeds, and great coverage from May 2007 - Jan 2011. So, I switched to Big Red. I know it costs more, but I'm getting what I pay for.
The Epic 4G Touch is probably the best phone I've ever owned. And I've enjoyed the support it has received from the talented devs. I really hope Sprint gets its act together, and fixes their network, as I know I'm not the only one who has been complaining about Sprint service.
Maybe I'll be back one day. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope Sprint comes through for you.
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I thanked you solely for the title of this thread.
Good luck over on VZW.
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I thanked you solely for the title of this thread.
Good luck over on VZW.
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Agree the title reminds me of something...... something about fish

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Agree the title reminds me of something...... something about fish
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Now I have the song from the movie stuck in my head hahaha
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OP. Were you at the end of your contract?
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I left verizon to go to sprint because my wife didn't want to leave. I struggled for almost 2 years w that crap. I left and went back to verizon recently and we are about to get 4g lte here. I couldn't be happier. Once she comes over I will be paying $20 more a month for vastly different service. Sprint would have been nice had they given what they offered. She has the gs2 also and while its a fantastic phone it is poorly represented on sprints terrible network in my area.
You won't be sad to be paying more. No more mad at the world because I can't receive an mms lol.

I did have to pay to get out of my contract (my phone was the only one with remaining time). I read the ETF fee schedule, and I calculated my ETF at $160. I was hoping to get out of my ETF by using the change in the way Sprint discounts the family plans. I missed the deadline by a few days. However, they said my ETF was $90. And, by buying the phones through Amazon, we saved $400. I'll just put my 4G Touch up for sale, as well as the wife's Evo 4G, and I will more than pay for the cost of the phones, as well as the ETF. I will probably be able to pay most of the first month's bill with that, too.

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I left verizon to go to sprint because my wife didn't want to leave. I struggled for almost 2 years w that crap. I left and went back to verizon recently and we are about to get 4g lte here. I couldn't be happier. Once she comes over I will be paying $20 more a month for vastly different service. Sprint would have been nice had they given what they offered. She has the gs2 also and while its a fantastic phone it is poorly represented on sprints terrible network in my area.
You won't be sad to be paying more. No more mad at the world because I can't receive an mms lol.
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Once that LTE comes to your area, you won't be able to wipe the grin off of your face.

Well I got sprint to waive my ETFs but they said I have to return my phones! Wtf?!
What's the point then?
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Hey, just when I thought we were running out of these "I'm leaving" threads, another pops up. #coolstorybro

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so sorry to hear about your departure, you should totally make a thread about it.
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I have Verizon for work and have a couple dropped calls a day. Never had one on my sprint. In the Washington dc area
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SwampGoblin might buy your device....
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kingdazy said:
SwampGoblin might buy your device....
Sent from my calculator watch.
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I take it there is a good back-story with this? I'm not up on my politics in this forum, so you will have to forgive me...

I have E4GT as private phone and iPhone 4S from VZM as a business phone.
I know those are different phones with different hardware/software but I counldn't help to notice that I always have better signal and reception with my E4GT.
In some areas where I don't have reception at all with my iPhone I'm still getting signal on my E4GT.
And I moved to sprint from AT&T 2.5 years ago because in my area AT&T had a worse service/signal ever.
So may be sprint is not a fastest network but so far it was the best for me for area where I leave and where I travel most.

niv3d said:
Well I got sprint to waive my ETFs but they said I have to return my phones! Wtf?!
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How'd you get them to waive it? My data dips as low as 0.05 mbps on Long Island. It feels like 56k dialup. I don't know how Sprint can legally sell data plans on Long Island. It's soooo bad and it's only getting worse. The tower upgrades did NOTHING.
I really don't want to spend hours on the phone trying to convince 10 different reps to waive the ETF. I'm thinking of just paying the $350 ETF, selling the phone on ebay, and switch to AT&T or Verizon. At least their data works here.
What's the alternative? Keep spending $90/month for a data plan that I can't use? Absolutely ridiculous.

Stay Frosty said:
How'd you get them to waive it? My data dips as low as 0.05 mbps on Long Island. It feels like 56k dialup. I don't know how Sprint can legally sell data plans on Long Island. It's soooo bad and it's only getting worse. The tower upgrades did NOTHING.
I really don't want to spend hours on the phone trying to convince 10 different reps to waive the ETF. I'm thinking of just paying the $350 ETF, selling the phone on ebay, and switch to AT&T or Verizon. At least their data works here.
What's the alternative? Keep spending $90/month for a data plan that I can't use? Absolutely ridiculous.
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Seriously .....rant to sprint we can't do anything, hope you feel better bro
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I picked my nose. I should start a thread about it.

tokuzumi said:
I take it there is a good back-story with this? I'm not up on my politics in this forum, so you will have to forgive me...
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Swamp Goblin is a dev who happens to be looking for an E4GT so he can start working on new ROM goodness for our phones. He's been looking on Craigslist and ebay but don't think he's had any real success yet. There's a thread that explains it all if you want to contact him.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572184
Also I think sextape (again not an inside joke) might be looking for one, but don't quote me on that.

I would go to At&t before Verizon. You know At&t is a union company. If my family didn't work for Sprint that is where i would go. At least you know their employees get treated better.
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Sprint reportedly cancelling......

Ahhhhh damn here we go again.....LOL
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/sprint-cancelling-early-upgrades/
"Like dominoes, Sprint's consumer-friendly policies continue to fall one at a time. Citing "high costs," the Now Network will begin discontinuing its practice of allowing customers to upgrade their phone 10-14 days prior to the official date of eligibility" - They aint lying

Not too bad, but still disappointing.
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Eh, no big deal to me. But it sucks for those that take advantage of it. Thanks for sharing.

Yea its not earth shattering but its just another broken link in the chain of bad decisions by Sprint lately. The sad part is you sit back and go what next...

In my point of veiw all sprint has done the last year is raise cost for us! We customers who wanted 4g and bought the evo 4g most never seen or connected to 4g. 3G speeds are beyond terrible and downright bog to 1X kind of speed during busy hours. At this point the cost between Sprint and verizon service is closing more and more as we speak. So I can expect many more customers to think, Why not go to a service with great data and call connectivity. Sprint really had a good think going with cost effective plans, but since have taken away many things like discounts on all lines, premier customers, ect ect. I know they are still cheaper but for how long and when will we see good data speeds like other companies? We are dead last in that!

How on earth is two weeks early costly?

Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.

I don't see this as a big deal whatsoever. The last line of the memo is the most important Imo. Everyone is eligible for upgrade the 1st of the month their contract is up. What more can you ask for?
As far as sprint saving money, not sure how really. I mean by allowing an early upgrade they are guaranteeing 22 months of payment out of you. Most of us would use that 2 weeks to get a new phone on launch, right? What happens when instead of getting a launch phone with them early, another carrier has a new phone being released when your contract is up? I'm blabbing, but what I'm saying is if they let me upgrade a little early I would be more likely to stay with that provider. But if I wait then I'm suddenly out of contract, which would make me shop around carriers.
Tl;dr
I see potential loss here, because they are basically giving sprint customers a reason to shop around while off contract instead of always keeping us in contract by allowing early upgrades.
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ib4 'would this allow me to get out w/o paying ETF', 'is this a breach of contract?', etc

Figures... Admittedly the 3g speeds are ridiculously slow... The only thing keeping me with sprint is the unlimited data... When that goes out the window so do I...
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Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.

Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/

daryelv said:
Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.
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Exactly, if you treat this as a separate event then its not a big deal but if you start to add up all that has happened in the past year and since the Iphone came aboard and it may upset you especially if you took 2 minutes to have this page refresh due to network restraints....

brooksyx said:
Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
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Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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mattykinsx said:
Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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Yeah, I do wish I had verizon for their great coverage, thats what I had before my parents kicked me off of their plan.
But hey I don't mind my virgin mobile: 1200min/unlimited text/unlimited data for $40 a month. I am pretty happy with that. Even have unlimited wimax 4g
I will probably switch over to sprint in a year or two though when I can afford it better.

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Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.
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i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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I think this is a good move. You guys that are complaining about it need to see what we see in the stores. This 14 day early deal is confusing to customers and abused by third party stores. The cost savings are in reduced overrides that are done when customers come in confused. Id rather have a consistent, fair policy than one that can be used to work the system by some and not taken advantage of by others. The upgrade now promo is a perfect example of a policy change that makes sense. Customers in March could pay to reset their upgrade regardless of the plan they were on. Instead of yearly upgrades for customers on expensive plans, now anyone could get it with a little extra cash if they need it.
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darksideauto said:
i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!

HenryDCase said:
Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!
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She should be getting LTE by end of this year, though...with Sprint...I may be retired before it happens.

Ascertion said:
How on earth is two weeks early costly?
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cause if you do it everytime you can over 54 years you just got a free phone.

Returning phones with no ETF?

Hi, I posted this question in the general xda section, but no one has replied so I am hoping someone here can respond.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811329

use a 3G roaming prl and download a TON of (legal) torrents. It might take 2 to 4 months, but they will drop you from service.
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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years and I've had almost zero complaints until these dang smart phones became the mainstream thing to have. Back when I had my Samsung Instinct the speeds were GOOD. For example, tethering was around 1.5mb all day long. By the time I got the EVO 4G though, things went down the toilet. Smart phones got super popular and Sprint simply couldn't handle it.
To top that off we got slapped in the face with a $10 dollar premium for 4G, oh excuse me "premium data" that doesn't even work for most of us. I have no 4G here and I' lucky to get 50kb's on 3G. I get 1.2mb on the Verizon PRL though.
I'd been using the 11115 PRL and toggling between Sprint and Verizon when I needed more speed but I've recently switched to the 00002 PRL in hopes of getting dropped. I shouldnt HAVE to toggle to Verizon to make my phone work.
I've complained to Sprint, they simply do not care. I bet they will start to care when I plug my phone in this weekend and pick some random Blue-ray sized files to torrent over 3G.
Can't wait to get over to AT&T or Verizon. I loved Sprint when it worked. I'd rather have a 5GB cap that works then unlimited that doesn't. Who cares about unlimited if you can't use it?
The plus side to having them boot me is I can keep my Epic Touch and resell it to help re-coop some of the money I feel I got scammed out of dealing with Sprint now that they don't seem to want to fix their network or compensate those of us who are/were loyal customers and are sick of this slow non-usable network.

Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.

amen sister.
I'm almost 1 year into my 2 year contract with sprint and I cannot wait until I can get out of it. I signed on because of unlimited data, which is great because I get 4g at work, but if I'm not at work or near one of the sp****ly placed 4g towers, I'm screwed.
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tgruendler said:
Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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do you have 4g wherever you go in your city?
My problem is that there are 6 4g towers placed around cincinnati and if you're not withing 1-2 miles of it, no 4g for you. Then, because we are a fairly dense market, the 3g speeds suck and the phone is almost useless.
Sprint does suck. Sprint has fallen so far behind the competition that i'm shocked that anybody ever renews a contract with them.

Yeah my service with sprint (virgin mobile) ain't great but hey I pay $25 a month for service. You just can't beat that!
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It I was paying $25 a month, I wouldn't ***** but I'm paying $108ish and I feel like I'm being kicked in the balls.
Being a 10+ year Sprint customer who has seen the service go down the drain, I have every right to complain because I know how it used to be before they decided to add all these new smart devices but not add new network to back them up.

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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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Yeah, I have no plans of using the Verizon PRL and get kicked. I have been in touch with customer service and it is getting to the point where they might let me out without ETF. I did not know that they would request the phones to be returned so I am trying to decide 1) if that's reasonable, and 2) if it is, then if it would be cheaper to pay ETF instead.

Tell them to refund your $200.00 dollars and you will be glad to return it.
I would be annoyed if on top of paying for the crap service they also wanted the phone back.

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Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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Agreed as well. If you sign a contract, man-up and fulfill your side of the agreement.

I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.

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I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.
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What exactly did they promise? They specifically do not promise any speed, ive looked.

I agree with u op. Sprint speeds have gotten a lot worse for me as well. My phone is not usable unless I'm on wifi. Its ridiculous. BUT u did sign a contract and you had two weeks to try it out. Hope it works out for u.
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The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.

kdoggy said:
The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.
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If it is so bad that you cannot even use it, you need to call Sprint, and keep calling them until they either fix it or they let you out of your contract because they are not living up to their obligation to the contract. Coming on XDA and crying about it will get you nowhere. This is a development website, not a ***** fest site about the provider. Take this **** elsewhere.

I'm going to stop this before it goes any further. Sorry your speeds aren't up to par (mine aren't either), but you will need to find another way than discussing here. Contracts are contracts, no way around it. Just call and call until you get the answer you want. This will turn out to be a war and we do not need that here as we have enough of that already.

(Q) force roaming on verizon; getting booted; coming back?

im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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kanyewest said:
im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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long timre ago before i went to boost I asked a agent if I left sprint when could I come back to get a deal like a new customer she said 6 month.

If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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devynbf said:
Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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U force roam by downloading the verizon prl to the root of ur internal memory, rename it to TEST.prl, the go to ur dialer and press ##3282# .. some menus come up... u click on prl write and then write prl.. phone reboots and ur done.. check ur prl number in about phone and check to see if its anything other than 5502 or what ever the new sprint prl is.
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patrao_n said:
If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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kanyewest said:
The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
I like to break stuff!

I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
I like to break stuff!
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kanyewest said:
im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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There is no point in being booted on purpose to just come back later. If that's the case then just wait it out. If you really want to get it I would call them and tell them service really sucks and if they can compensate you. I waited out and now little by little Sprint is getting better and better. I just hit lte in my town and hopefully it will be announced officially.
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I agree with the above.
Actually, it's what the OP purposes that has made it illegal to jailbreak/root phones, again, and try to bring them to another carrier. The carriers complained the government about how much money they loose because of it.
As for the OP issue, check your contract, but you might have some unlimited roaming; I forget if it's data or voice. On the same note, the bars you see, usually have little do with data; that's for voice. Thus, you go by the data connection icons--3g, 4g, etc. With that said, if it's really you may want to check out the Sprint coverage map. There is also another map that shows worked done and scheduled to done. I know for me, I get 3G and 4G around where I live. It's not everywhere. 4G speeds are no where near what I see other posts; I get in the 5 to 7mpbs down, and about 1mbps up on 4G, and around 1.5mpbs down, and .75mpbs up on 3g.
I would call Sprint and let them know your issue. It's possible they'll give you one of those 4G adapters that you can use at home with your internet. I'm not sure it's just for voice, or does data as well. I realize this may work because of lack of home internet.
Lastly, do you have the same issue inside buildings versus outside. If inside, it's possible that radio signal just can't penetrate the walls. Concrete is a notorious for this on the radio frequency that Sprint uses.

budde2 said:
I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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only in america do we get phones for 199.00 and under....and it is ETF's and contract fees that make up the lost dollars..Note 2 in Japan...yeah $800 american dollars..no discounts..upgrades none of that..you want it...you buy it..
so quit your crying and put your big boy pants on.

I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.

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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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If your going to be coming back eventually anyway. Call and have your acct put on seasonal standby. Costs 8 $ a month but your acct will be in tact when ya come back. As for ETFs, good luck. The only exception to waiving it for now is. If your a Nextel user and they migrate you to cdma and you don't have any coverage. And by coverage I mean, no Sprint towers around. They use the coverage map to determine coverage not user experience. OR You recently moved to an area with no Sprint coverage, again no coverage per the coverage map.
The roaming situation does not work anymore due to contracts with other carriers for use of network. I can't tell you the last time I seen someone get booted due to roaming. Hell 90% of North Dakota is Off Network and we have several thousand subscribers up there.
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Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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Well I moved 2 months after getting onto Sprint. I got a good signal at my previous home but don't get a single bar at my new home.
I'm damn sure not paying 400 dollars to get out of the contract when I could stay on Verizon's PRL and wait until 4g hits.
If it ever does.
At this rate we won't get it until next year.
$90 bucks a month for data that barely works.
$90 bucks a month on a plan I thought was gonna cost $70, because that's what I signed up for.
Frankly, Sprint sucks.
Simple as that.
Seriously Sprint needs to step up their game...
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Some say dish or Sprint might try to take over tmobile

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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Rather it be Dish than Sprint. Had a 4g phone since wimax came out... then LTE.... Still no 4g in Savannah. I said goodbye to them when the S4 came out and switched to tmo. Got them to cancel the early termination fee because of the past few years of bad service in the entire Southeast area of GA and SC. Took a week of convincing.
Then Tmo: It was instant "oh this is what 4g is like!" Roommate is still getting 10-100 KILObytes on Sprint, while I'm getting 15-26mb on Tmo. Suck it Sprint.
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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This.
And with what money is Sprint buying anyone, TMo isn't exactly Virgin Mobile.

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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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Lol yes. Very well aware. Different tech. It's just the thought of being a customer of a Sprint owned anything. Seeing them fail so much.
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Thats hillarious. Sprint DOES NOT have the money to take over a network that is triple in size to the one they already have. I also don't see how a tv company wants a cell phone network. I think its a load of garbage. Yes i read the link in the OP. T-Mobile is doing better than a lot of its competition, i seriously don't see Sprint "taking them over". Thats a laughing joke lol. Sprint sucks beyond sucking xD

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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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yes but if sprint takes over, they will probably let the towers become dated like they did their own and we wont see these speeds for long

Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.

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Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.
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Exactly. Don't know hat anything has changed either for the Fed to rule otherwise.
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I think this has been rumored for a while and I don't think it will ever happen. T-mobile's patent company, Deutsche Telekom, is a massive company and I don't think they would let tmo go.
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Dish and sprint don't have that kind of money to take over tmobile ...
>O/C GalaxyGS4<

yeah as it was said AT&T tried to buy them out and the US government put a big red flag in that. people (such as myself) are leaving sprint to go with tmo because of the better service and price. plus, not sure if youve seen/heard the commercials but AT&T are trying to stay afloat by copying tmo's not contract deals... oh and to the guy who said something about a tv company buying a cell company.... even though verizon started as a phone company im fairly certain that their tv/internet service is pretty amazing.

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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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You couldn't be more correct about sprint speeds theyve bought people with there cheap lets get 10 people on a line call it a family plan... thats Soooo affordable crap..... and then throw you some 30 kb dload speeds...
Sprint should have went under along tine ago, even metro is better than them
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Damn, other carriers be jelly.
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So is there any actual factual information proving all these points being mentioned. I mean unless anyone here is a top corporate executive or has a mole in the company?
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On the other hand Tmo can take over Sprint and put that company out of business once and for all and put their customers out of their misery.

Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.

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Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.
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Sprint will never have good towers. They are trash. They've had two years to improve since I've left them. My cousin still has them. They suck. They aren't going anywhere.
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I'd have little problem with Dish, it could end up benefiting both sides. Still, T-Mobile stands to benefit less from a takeover now than they would have in the past. On the upswing as a carrier, or so it seems.

US wants 4 "major" carriers so unlikely tmo and sprint would merge anymore than tmo and at&t merger was approved by feds.
As for Dish (puke) they can't hardly run tv without being aluminum siding/used car salesmen. They'd be worse than the old nextel (which is where sprint got 95% of their terrible rape, pillage and burn customer service habits).
Full disclosure: was sprint customer almost 10 years (yes im a suicidal masochist lol) before givi g up in disgust & going to att for 3 and now on tmo.
TBH, only went with tmo because of pretty seamless wifi calling (no carrier signal works worth a dam at my house)
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