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My thoughts on the Oct. 7th annoucement

Sprint is scheduled to make an announcement concerning their network on October 7th. There have been rumors stating that Sprint will use EVDO Rev. B, and/or the 800MHz spectrum for better coverage.
However, I have this sinking feeling the news regarding their network isn't going to be good.
With all the recent policy changes, (Sprint capping Hotspot users, dropping their Premiere plans, reducing the return window for new phones from 30 days to 14, upping their activation, termination, and administrative fees, it's my fear that Sprint is going to be dropping their unlimited data plans all together.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but there's so much that's happened with Sprint in the last 30 days I can't help but feel the news they're going to relay is going to be anything but good.
What are your thoughts?

Theyll throttle before they cap it. Your main concern should be if you just bought a $700 phone that doesnt support a network starting less than a month later.

wingzfan said:
Theyll throttle before they cap it. Your main concern should be if you just bought a $700 phone that doesnt support a network starting less than a month later.
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If you're referring to EVDO Rev. B then I have no idea.. Nobody seems to be able to give a definite answer to that.... >_<;;

I think is going to be about the Iphone. I hope they dont cap there data. Thats the only reason they have my service right now. If so, Good bye yellow and hello big Red.
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donnelljrn said:
I think is going to be about the Iphone. I hope they dont cap there data. Thats the only reason they have my service right now. If so, Good bye yellow and hello big Red.
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I can say this. Our best buy Sept 27th ad leak had a spot saying that Oct 7th we would start taking Sprint Iphone preorders so you may be right.

I honestly believe Sprint made all these changes to their policy to help pay for the network improvements they plan to unveil Oct.. Sprint don't have the kind of cash reserve that AT&T or Verizon has. So I really do believe Oct. announcement is going to be for a better future.

i hope they dont throttle...there main selling point and even advertisements are the fact they dont cap or throttle

I hope by better future they dont hope iphone is the answer.
They gotta be planning something network wise cuz they know its horrible right now. They lost a huge contract that supplied a ton of theyre towers so they have got to be coming up with a plan. The tech I spoke with the other day agreed that the service is complete crap at the moment and if they didnt do something theyre gonna lose a ton of customers.

Mitalis said:
Sprint is scheduled to make an announcement concerning their network on October 7th. There have been rumors stating that Sprint will use EVDO Rev. B, and/or the 800MHz spectrum for better coverage.
However, I have this sinking feeling the news regarding their network isn't going to be good.
With all the recent policy changes, (Sprint capping Hotspot users, dropping their Premiere plans, reducing the return window for new phones from 30 days to 14, upping their activation, termination, and administrative fees, it's my fear that Sprint is going to be dropping their unlimited data plans all together.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but there's so much that's happened with Sprint in the last 30 days I can't help but feel the news they're going to relay is going to be anything but good.
What are your thoughts?
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I don't think so. That is the only advantage they have over the other carriers and they won't drop that anytime soon IMO. Plus, they have already said that they will be announcing something big that is 4g related.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20099243-94/sprint-special-october-event-could-reveal-4g-plans/

wingzfan said:
I hope by better future they dont hope iphone is the answer.
They gotta be planning something network wise cuz they know its horrible right now. They lost a huge contract that supplied a ton of theyre towers so they have got to be coming up with a plan. The tech I spoke with the other day agreed that the service is complete crap at the moment and if they didnt do something theyre gonna lose a ton of customers.
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Yeah, that was AllTel. They basically lost all the 3G roaming contracts with all the AllTel towers that Verizon purchased.
I'm lucky enough to be in a state where most of the AllTel towers were taken over by CellOne instead... I get faster 3G data when I'm roaming in the middle of nowhere up north than I do here in the city.

If they start to cap their data, then there's no reason to stay with Sprint.

spencer88 said:
If they start to cap their data, then there's no reason to stay with Sprint.
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I can think of $130 reasons cuz thats how much I save by being on theyre network a month.

wingzfan said:
I can think of $130 reasons cuz thats how much I save by being on theyre network a month.
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Good for you, but I don't. I'm stuck suffering with horrible data speeds, never reaching over 200 kbps download.

I hope Sprint does throttle--iPhone users. That's all we need is a bunch of iPhone users jumping on the already slow, overtaxed network making all of our experiences even worse. Unless, of course... they announce network infrastructure changes that mitigate the problme. All I know is that it couldn't be much worse here in Indianapolis than it's been the last six months or so--it's almost intolerable.

tbhausen said:
I hope Sprint does throttle--iPhone users. That's all we need is a bunch of iPhone users jumping on the already slow, overtaxed network making all of our experiences even worse. Unless, of course... they announce network infrastructure changes that mitigate the problme. All I know is that it couldn't be much worse here in Indianapolis than it's been the last six months or so--it's almost intolerable.
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iPhone users use on average 400 MB per month, android is 600 MB.

spencer88 said:
Good for you, but I don't. I'm stuck suffering with horrible data speeds, never reaching over 200 kbps download.
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You pay what you get for... Its your own fauly for not taking advantage of your 14 or 30 day period
No need to get mad
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hello big red

Yeah, it's definitely about the iPhone5. "Unlimited data" is the only thing they have going for them. After all fees and everything is considered they are only $10 or so away from Verizon a month for me, and if I'm going to get capped I'm going to leave and at least get great coverage on a network with super-power level infrastructure and continual improvements at all levels.
I love Sprint, don't get me wrong...but fantastic customer service and $10 a month won't be enough for me to put up with also-ran data speeds and coverage.
They know this.
The announcement will be about the iPhone5 and perhaps the "New Network Vision" or however they brand the things that Verizon does constantly without fanfare... If they announced tiered or "up to; then throttle" data plans I'm out and tens of thousands, nay, hundreds of thousands of others as well...they know better.
We've lost every other perk that kept me thrilled with Sprint, besides their fantastic customer service. (I am really impressed with their CS, seriously) I imagine it was to improve the network and continue supplying unlimited data, if not, pffft, piss off Sprint.

I think it's going to be a network announcement...
They need to make that announcement before they announce the iPhone will be available on Sprint.
The Oct 7th announcement will be that they will use EVDO Rev. B, and/or the 800MHz spectrum for better coverage.
That will allow them to subsequently announce the iPhone later, without the concerns for existing and prospective customers that the additional traffic will sink their network. Essentially, that upgrade will quadruple their bandwidth - pretty cool, and a good thing to do just prior to an iPhone announcement.

daneurysm said:
Yeah, it's definitely about the iPhone5. "Unlimited data" is the only thing they have going for them. After all fees and everything is considered they are only $10 or so away from Verizon a month for me, and if I'm going to get capped I'm going to leave and at least get great coverage on a network with super-power level infrastructure and continual improvements at all levels.
I love Sprint, don't get me wrong...but fantastic customer service and $10 a month won't be enough for me to put up with also-ran data speeds and coverage.
They know this.
The announcement will be about the iPhone5 and perhaps the "New Network Vision" or however they brand the things that Verizon does constantly without fanfare... If they announced tiered or "up to; then throttle" data plans I'm out and tens of thousands, nay, hundreds of thousands of others as well...they know better.
We've lost every other perk that kept me thrilled with Sprint, besides their fantastic customer service. (I am really impressed with their CS, seriously) I imagine it was to improve the network and continue supplying unlimited data, if not, pffft, piss off Sprint.
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Daneurysm always knows how to lay it down... Just like on the 3d forum!
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Screwed for iPhone 4GS rant

WE have been duped by Sprint people. Go to their website and you will notice the announcement of the iPhone 4Gs. You can even pre order it. This privilege was not given for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 ET4G.
Why...was this you say...it's obvious that Sprint knew it had made a deal to buy a **** load of IOS devices to secure this deal with Apple.so they didn't promote the galaxy ET4g. Now they have a big announcement tomorrow. They are going out of their way to let you pre order the iPhone as well.
Sad, and yes I feel they used us to get this deal, by canceling all perks, while giving us crappy service. My Photon has a red circle and no service, and I don't have a ET4G yet. Service has been terrible most of the summer all over NY and in mid town NYC.
If service was being interrupted to better service I may stick around, but not getting signal, failed messages, and paying for it and no credit with lies is unacceptable. Not being able to pre-order the phone I wanted because they made a deal with Crapple is also unforgivable. Price isn't the only thing that matters in a business relationship. It's I pay for service and expect to have it when I want it, not when you decide to give it.
Hell I was told by a customer service rep that I should be happy because I have had a lot of usage on my line. I then said yes that is true, but when I need my service to work it failed to deliver....I missed important calls. and meetings with people because of failed service.
People were telling me when they called the phone rang 3x's and hung up no message was able to be left. Others told me that they would get a network busy message please try again later. One rep verified this condition of calling me, and could not get through. The phone rang 3x's and the line just went dead when they called. I have been to tech centers, and have made many battery pulls, and software reboots, and finally I was told that there was a net work issue and they did not know when it would be cleared. Now when I call to talk about it they put me on hold no music and never come back to talk.
I just don't see it getting better, and when the next generation of phones IE Prime or what ever hits Verizon, and this is not cleared I am gone. When I feel I have to beg for service, or a credit for not receiving service after paying my bills for 15 years, and at one point having a $300 a month phone bills for business it's time to go.
My bill analysis shows that I average 240 msg a month, and average about 2g of data a month, and since I use my phone mostly for calls a Verizion 69.00 phone plan with 10 data, and 10.00 for data equals what I am paying now. So if this doesn't clear with the loss of perks I am outta here.lol

My service is better than ever...by far too. I never saw over 8Mbps download speed in Los Angeles on 4G and now....
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Enjoy the larger bill on Verizon. It fast and rather reliable
Life is too short to complain on services you are not happy about. Great thing about America is that we have three major carriers
The sprint network can't compete with Verizon in "most" areas,

Can I have your phone when you leave? I've got a line with no phone....

care cup \__/
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When sprint cancelled premiere the writing was on the wall. It was on your august bill statement. In addition, sprint raised the admin fee by 50cents which invalidated every contract. Also on your bill statement.
Then sprint raised ETF from $200 to $350. Then they changed 30 day phone trials to 14 days. All this in september.
I am here on this board with an E4GT because of these changes - I had to get my final premiere upgrade prior to 10/2/2011. Otherwise I was fully planning on just waiting another month for nexus prime.
Now the E4GT has serious radio issues. Like OP, I had calls go to voicemail for hours at a time. Others have LOS, dropped calls, no signal bars, phone refuses to roam, etc.
Sprint's CEO said that 54% of sprint customer churn is due to not having an iphone. Thats a pretty hard fact to not pay attention to.
It is clear sprint is putting all eggs in one basket - the iphone basket. Sprint has lost money for 15 straight quarters. This will either save sprint or ruin sprint.
I've been with sprint 10 years now, and im no iphone fan. THe writing is on the wall: We'll let you keep your android devices and stay on our network, but we really don't care about you now. Of course I knew all this over a month ago and I was still willing to sign a 2 year contract in september for the Epic 4g touch. That was before all the LOS issues arose.
We'll see what the next 2 years brings. But the days of customer loyalty perks, retention plans, etc are clearly over.

I just switched from verizon to sprint, so I can give you a good preview of what to expect.
First of all, the service is top notch, and the lte speeds were incredible - I regularly got over 20 mbps in my area, many times close to 30. Of course, keep in mind that their lte service is fairly new, and at the time they only had 3 expensive phones that could use it, so that will likely change as more people upgrade and the network gets saturated.
So why did I leave this awesome service? Price. Everything across the board is way more expensive - service and phones. I paid $50 more for a Droid Charge than I did for my E4GT, and that phone isn't even in the same league. For our family plan with unlimited text, only 700 minutes, 2 data plans and 2 other phones, it was $230 a month. Our kids wanted smartphones too, but to add 2 more data plans would have put our bill up to $300. I'm not broke, but not rich either, and that cost is pretty hard to justify.
Also, keep in mind that all those policies Sprint just changed are the same policies Verizon has - 14 day return, $350 etf (even after being way overcharged on the phones up front), and no more New Every Two program.
The only carrier I've found with good pricing and great coverage (in my area) is Tmo, and I almost jumped to them, but no way in hell I want to risk being an att customer again.
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txmikester said:
I just switched from verizon to sprint, so I can give you a good preview of what to expect.
First of all, the service is top notch, and the lte speeds were incredible - I regularly got over 20 mbps in my area, many times close to 30. Of course, keep in mind that their lte service is fairly new, and at the time they only had 3 expensive phones that could use it, so that will likely change as more people upgrade and the network gets saturated.
So why did I leave this awesome service? Price. Everything across the board is way more expensive - service and phones. I paid $50 more for a Droid Charge than I did for my E4GT, and that phone isn't even in the same league. For our family plan with unlimited text, only 700 minutes, 2 data plans and 2 other phones, it was $230 a month. Our kids wanted smartphones too, but to add 2 more data plans would have put our bill up to $300. I'm not broke, but not rich either, and that cost is pretty hard to justify.
Also, keep in mind that all those policies Sprint just changed are the same policies Verizon has - 14 day return, $350 etf (even after being way overcharged on the phones up front), and no more New Every Two program.
The only carrier I've found with good pricing and great coverage (in my area) is Tmo, and I almost jumped to them, but no way in hell I want to risk being an att customer again.
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Perspective ftw!
This is called "grass is greener" syndrome. You're gonna love it at first. Then 6 months later you're posting the same crap in another forum.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Perspective ftw!
This is called "grass is greener" syndrome. You're gonna love it at first. Then 6 months later you're posting the same crap in another forum.
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It all comes down to service.....ETFs, and other fees are basic...it's about service when I want it....I am worn out this summer by Sprint's evasive bull**** regarding the service issues that we are experiencing. Collecting my money for inferior service, and lying about is bad business practice......

Piece out!!!!

QWIKSTRIKE said:
It all comes down to service.....ETFs, and other fees are basic...it's about service when I want it....I am worn out this summer by Sprint's evasive bull**** regarding the service issues that we are experiencing. Collecting my money for inferior service, and lying about is bad business practice......
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Amen. I am tired of flipping on Roam Control and dealing on 1x every time I enter a building. What good is unlimited 3g if it is slow as molasses, and 4g which is spotty and hardly ever works indoors? At this point, I am off contract and if Prime comes to VZW and is not full of bloat I may be gone.

dohturdima said:
Amen. I am tired of flipping on Roam Control and dealing on 1x every time I enter a building. What good is unlimited 3g if it is slow as molasses, and 4g which is spotty and hardly ever works indoors? At this point, I am off contract and if Prime comes to VZW and is not full of bloat I may be gone.
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I was told that the unlimited everything plan for the IPhone will be $20 a month more than ours..
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I like android and I never want a I-PHONE.
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Feel free to kick me in the Jimmy if I ever buy an iAnything.
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dohturdima said:
Amen. I am tired of flipping on Roam Control and dealing on 1x every time I enter a building. What good is unlimited 3g if it is slow as molasses, and 4g which is spotty and hardly ever works indoors? At this point, I am off contract and if Prime comes to VZW and is not full of bloat I may be gone.
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It doesn't really matter if it has bloat where cause you can root the stock rom and use titanium backup to remove it all. Its super easy to do

dohturdima said:
Amen. I am tired of flipping on Roam Control and dealing on 1x every time I enter a building. What good is unlimited 3g if it is slow as molasses, and 4g which is spotty and hardly ever works indoors? At this point, I am off contract and if Prime comes to VZW and is not full of bloat I may be gone.
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I am not just talking 3g/4G.....I get a red circle with a line almost daily. I have been missing calls. getting network busy try back later errors, and not receiving calls for hours a day. I missed getting calls with 4-5 bars in mid town Manhattan, and people told me the phone just rang 3 times and stopped ringing with no option to leave a voice mail. Others were told to "try back later network busy". This can only get worse if iPhone is coming. I am not the only one experiencing this issue the Sprint online community is filled with this same complaint.

JohnCorleone said:
I was told that the unlimited everything plan for the IPhone will be $20 a month more than ours..
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Nope, it is the same price. You can go on and pre-order to see the pricing.

[Q] Cancel sprint contact with no etf?

Im tired of sprint, ive been screwed out of an upgrade and there was countless times fraud occured while on my parents family plan through assurion but thats besides the point. im on my own plan now and the unlimited speeds are painfully slow not to mention the 4g i pay for thats not in available in my area.my question is this, if i roam over 300 megs of data a month i understand that sprint will cancel me and that is what i want but will there be an ETF? if anyone knows or has had experience with this please let me know. i apologize for posting this, i know its been discussed before but from what i read i was only seeing people who were upset about being canceled but im wanting to use this to get canceled but i was unable to determine if there will be an ETF, thanks for your help.

A) how were you screwed out of an upgrade? If there has been a legitimate error it can be corrected. For example if you returned a product but your contract didn't get reset.
B) what 4G are you paying for? Sprint doesn't charge extra for 4g,only for smartphone access.
C) using too much roaming data is technically grounds for charges by the mb, plus termination with etf still being charged. In practice, it is usually just a friendly parting of ways.
If you were unhappy with the speeds you shouldn't have signed a contract, or returned the device during the return policy. The speeds are not appreciably different now vs 8 months ago. In my area they have improved noticeably.
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i think i may attempt this with you. using my basic logic im thinking if they "boot you" then you wouldn't have to pay etf cause u didn't et. but as we all know basic logic was thrown out the window by cellular companies so i could be wrong. I'm just thinking that's why people go to the measures they do, to get canceled by sprint thus avoiding the etf. actually i just made up my mind, i will join you on this journey. new orleans and surrounding areas has been **** since b4 katrina. seems veriz and tmob are the only ones with good/great service around here.
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i apologize that was a bit of a rant i should also mention i work in a different location and the speeds there are terrible but but i was refferering to the premium data charge "4g" of which is not available in my area and will not be since sprint is abondaning development for their wimax. and as far as the upgrade my last upgrade with sprint was somewhere around 2008 id say i still should have had my upgrade available due to one of my parents letting me use their upgrade to get a new device but somehow or another both my upgrade and parents upgrades were used and as far as signing a contract i didnt i perfromed a latteral transfer which allows me to pay for my own bill with out having to buy out of my parents contract although i checked yesterday and i believe it extended two years while my next upgrade isnt available for another 363 days but you do think they will charge the etf?

veritasaequita said:
i think i may attempt this with you. using my basic logic im thinking if they "boot you" then you wouldn't have to pay etf cause u didn't et. but as we all know basic logic was thrown out the window by cellular companies so i could be wrong. I'm just thinking that's why people go to the measures they do, to get canceled by sprint thus avoiding the etf. actually i just made up my mind, i will join you on this journey. new orleans and surrounding areas has been **** since b4 katrina. seems veriz and tmob are the only ones with good/great service around here.
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its worth a shot to me because i was going to pay the etf anyways right now im just using roam control im up to 391 megs in two days while roaming so id say it shouldnt be long before im flagged

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Again op you do not pay for 4g access. You pay ten dollars extra because its a smartphone. Btw. You entered a contract then you are disappointed and want to leave. But you don't want to pay a dime. Ya dude just stop paying your bill. Pretty easy. They don't even check. But seriously be the super teenager you are and pay the damn fee and go get yourself a nice flip phone
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I just do not get peoples thought processes sometimes. I freaking love sprint. data speeds are amazing in my neck of the woods. I get 1.1mb Down and 670kb up on 3G and 16.7mb Down and 1.51 mb up on 4G. I think once I managed to pull 24mb down on 4G. All other carriers throttle you after 2gb of data use. Sprint wont. Thats just my two cents.
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megs of roaming won't ever get you kicked off. Yes, they can charge you overages AND an etf if they wish, and they have on occasion. Most the time they don't though.

ReActiveDisorder said:
I just do not get peoples thought processes sometimes. I freaking love sprint. data speeds are amazing in my neck of the woods. I get 1.1mb Down and 670kb up on 3G and 16.7mb Down and 1.51 mb up on 4G. I think once I managed to pull 24mb down on 4G. All other carriers throttle you after 2gb of data use. Sprint wont. Thats just my two cents.
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Oh wow, you are so cool!

ReActiveDisorder said:
I just do not get peoples thought processes sometimes. I freaking love sprint. data speeds are amazing in my neck of the woods. I get 1.1mb Down and 670kb up on 3G and 16.7mb Down and 1.51 mb up on 4G. I think once I managed to pull 24mb down on 4G. All other carriers throttle you after 2gb of data use. Sprint wont. Thats just my two cents.
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Not everybody gets such good speeds as you...and it's been consistenly awful for a while now.
I just ran a speedtest for me in KC, not far from Sprint Headquarters and 213kbps down and 98kbps up, and that's good for me. I'm almost exclusively am on wireless just so I can actually browse or get on the internet. That's not the reason I pay for my cellphone. You better believe I'll be looking at another carrier after my contract expires.

In before the lock!
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Oh wow, you are so cool!
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I know right.
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Iczer said:
Not everybody gets such good speeds as you...and it's been consistenly awful for a while now.
I just ran a speedtest for me in KC, not far from Sprint Headquarters and 213kbps down and 98kbps up, and that's good for me. I'm almost exclusively am on wireless just so I can actually browse or get on the internet. That's not the reason I pay for my cellphone. You better believe I'll be looking at another carrier after my contract expires.
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Have fun with that. Ive been on verizon. tmobile. and att and sprint is by far the best value.
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I think this one can go over to the Sprint forums. Not xda.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

Is it worth staying with Sprint?

I don't use unlimited data anymore. Ever since I got a home wifi router, I use less than 200MB data a month.
I pay $75 a month for the cheapest, employer discounted plan with Sprint.
It seems like ATT would offer $40 (cheapest phone) + $20 (300MB data) - employer discount (I don't know how much). So, I'd be paying a much lower monthly charge with ATT.
Or so it seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plus, I'll be getting One X (s4) just after it was released, enjoying a new gen phone.
Your thoughts?

Sounds like a no brainer.
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Sounds like the smarter move to just go with ATT. You'd save a few bucks, which add up over time. I'd do it if you don't need/use the unlimited data.

I think it makes sense for you to switch if your cancellation with Sprint isn't too painful. If there are multiple phones on the account, multiply the cancellation fees.

Im a data holic but if you really dont use a lot of data then its a no brainer
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Don't forget texting. That's an additional 20 or 30, I can't remember, unless you use Google voice
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At&t is 20 for unlimited text on a single plan and 30 on a family plan.
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I say go to att
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nabbed said:
I don't use unlimited data anymore. Ever since I got a home wifi router, I use less than 200MB data a month.
I pay $75 a month for the cheapest, employer discounted plan with Sprint.
It seems like ATT would offer $40 (cheapest phone) + $20 (300MB data) - employer discount (I don't know how much). So, I'd be paying a much lower monthly charge with ATT.
Or so it seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plus, I'll be getting One X (s4) just after it was released, enjoying a new gen phone.
Your thoughts?
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20 for 300mb of data? That's highway robbery. I hope you don't want to send or receive texts because that's another charge. ATT nickle and dime their customers to death. If you want cheap, and it's available, go with a prepay account or go with metropcs. From your explanation, it doesn't look like you're going to get insurance for your phone. You say you'll be getting a one x when you go there yet you don't want to use data on the network. What's the use of getting one of the top of the line phones with LTE when you want to only get the 300mb data per month option? To me, that doesn't make much sense. I'm assuming you have a e4gt now. Why don't you get a free basic phone from ATT and use your e4gt on wifi only? You can save another 20 bucks by not getting data on a free phone. I don't care what you do, that's your decision. Some people have left only to find out the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.

Also how is call service? My friend gets all data no phone. And even data is comparable to everyone else.

When I had att my calls would drop in the same spots sprint calls would not even in between cities
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I was with att for 8 years and refuse to go back. Customer service is horrible and I always had dropped calls. Plus they nickel and dime you for everything they can.
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Just remember the AT&T One X has a locked down bootloader. I worked for AT&T as a Field Technician for several years. I had to constantly use my personal phone because of AT&T's awful network.
Look into T-Mobile if you really need to change. They should save you some money.
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Also, I currently have a BB through AT&T for work and the signal is so spotty I just use Exchange on my E4GT. My boss has an iPhone that constantly drops calls.
As far as T-mo goes, I had them for 8 years in KC and dropped 2 calls the whole time. Maybe look at an unlocked GNex for 399 and go with one of their pre-paid plans.

newalker91 said:
In all honesty, every US carrier sucks. I've used and sold every major post-paid carrier except US Cellular (although I've yet to hear anything good about them).
AT&T doesn't need you, and they'll make sure you know that when coming to them with problems. Their coverage is shoddy, the network goes down frequently and their bills are loaded with unexplainable fees and charges.
Verizon has decent coverage but they suffer from network congestion. Their phones are priced way too high and they lack services for the price paid. They also look for any and every reason to charge you additional fees or kick you out with a termination fee.
T-Mobile has terrible coverage and an awful call/text network (need to send texts a dozen times to go through). Their prices are great and their customer service is okay. Decent selection of phones. Great choice for someone who doesn't text, use a lot of data or travel.
Sprint has pretty good coverage, but data speeds are pretty bad. Even corporate management makes jokes on a daily basis about it. They originally had fantastic plan pricing, but are slowly getting more and more like big red by adding on fees, tweaking discounts to rake in more cash and subtly changing the ToS to impose artificial limits on the term "unlimited". I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint's customer service was rated #1 is a 50/50 split between customer care lying to the customers and store reps guilt tripping customers into giving only perfect scores on surveys.
Seeing as Boost and Virgin will be picking up Sprint's WiMax network, I would see no reason to stay with Sprint were my service actually costing me anything. Funny that my phone is free yet I still catch myself thinking up ways to weasel out of my contract.
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I've rarely done surveys. I block their phone number when they call too. I love when my gf is a smart ass towards them. Csr: Can you say I helped you resolve your issue today? Her: I don't know, I'll have to wait and see if it works now. I'll sometimes feel like being a troll and score them the lowest marks.

Sprint 3g in my area is some short not even 3g !
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I suppose all the carriers are like that. In some places they have good or acceptable service, and other places its horrible.

oscarthegrouch said:
I've rarely done surveys. I block their phone number when they call too. I love when my gf is a smart ass towards them. Csr: Can you say I helped you resolve your issue today? Her: I don't know, I'll have to wait and see if it works now. I'll sometimes feel like being a troll and score them the lowest marks.
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Those survey probably help determine how much a kid with a bunch of student debt gets paid. Wtg, ****. Really funny.
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Why are you even considering that change? Go to boost mobile. $50 period. All unlimited, no contract.
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oscarthegrouch said:
20 for 300mb of data? That's highway robbery.
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More like....airwave robbery. YEEEEAAAAHHHH.
But seriously, if you aren't taking full advantage of the unlimited data and the competitors network in your area is better, I would definitely switch. Personally, my data speeds are so terrible I don't even bother using my phone off of Wifi. Yet my girlfriends AT&T SGS2 hauls ass pretty much everywhere she goes.

newalker91 said:
I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint's customer service was rated #1 is a 50/50 split between customer care lying to the customers and store reps guilt tripping customers into giving only perfect scores on surveys.
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I said this all the time to my SAR, when he started being a **** about CSAT averages. It is easy to brag about it, when you are padding and stuffing the stats. It is such a snake oil salesman tactic, and I encouraged my customers to answer honestly. I will never beg for a five.
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Sprint to raise prices?

https://www.google.com/producer/edi...w4GowoAgwkRo/sprint_may_boost_plan_prices_whe
My opinion on this is, I still have a bad taste in my mouth after being screwed with 4g coverage so far, and if they do raise prices after finally getting decent 4g I may leave, because the two reasons I went with Sprint is the lower prices and the unlimited data. And I can get both of those at T-Mobile if they do raise prices. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that Sprint is skating on thin ice
Unless it's only a few dollars, then if the 4g is worth it I'll stay. But anything more then like a 8 dollar hike I will be mad
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yea but how can they raise prices for non lte devices? were not using their spectrum
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qubanaso said:
yea but how can they raise prices for non lte devices? were not using their spectrum
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That is true, I didn't think of that. They really couldn't unless they give us a free upgrade. Otherwise they will piss allot of people off and lose allot of business
But even so, asking for more money for a better network that should of been of better quality in the first place is pushing their luck
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i wouldnt mind some sort of extra charge as long as they improve wimax and 3g as well
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i wouldnt mind some sort of extra charge as long as they improve wimax and 3g as well
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3g yes but they aren't expanding or improving their wimax anymore, since lte is coming
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Usually when there's a rate increase, it doesn't affect existing customers until they upgrade or change their plan. Even then the rate increase doesn't always affect existing customers unless they change plans, due to grandfathering in on your existing plan. From his wording it would appear there would be no rate increase until late 2013 or early 2014 anyways, since he used the qualifying phrase "after our lte network is completed" which isn't scheduled until q4 2013. Sprints always been pretty good about grandfathering in existing customers anyways, I still have unlimited hotspots on 3 lines and its been capped at 5gb for new hotspots for over a year. I wouldn't care about a rate increase to keep unlimited data anyways, since every other carrier is capped at a Max of 10gb or throttles the piss out of your connection after 5gb(T-Mobile unlimited drops to 2mbps after 5gb and vzw and att only have 10gb plans Max and that's shared on family plans) even if my 5 lines went up $100 it would still he a better deal than any other carrier
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Usually when there's a rate increase, it doesn't affect existing customers until they upgrade or change their plan. Even then the rate increase doesn't always affect existing customers unless they change plans, due to grandfathering in on your existing plan. From his wording it would appear there would be no rate increase until late 2013 or early 2014 anyways, since he used the qualifying phrase "after our lte network is completed" which isn't scheduled until q4 2013. Sprints always been pretty good about grandfathering in existing customers anyways, I still have unlimited hotspots on 3 lines and its been capped at 5gb for new hotspots for over a year. I wouldn't care about a rate increase to keep unlimited data anyways, since every other carrier is capped at a Max of 10gb or throttles the piss out of your connection after 5gb(T-Mobile unlimited drops to 2mbps after 5gb and vzw and att only have 10gb plans Max and that's shared on family plans) even if my 5 lines went up $100 it would still he a better deal than any other carrier
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I guess your right, but T-Mobile switched to truly unlimited this month, for the same price as Sprint 450 everything data, so if they do raise prices more people will go with t mobile, unless sprints network is bad ass by then
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We are already paying the 10 extra for a non working 4g network. Anyway as soon as my contract is up, I am going prepaid.
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Hell no. They raise prices up more than $1, I'm jumping ship to T-Mo. In Miami, T-Mo is fire, and if Sprint is gonna make me pay the same as T-Mo, but with their slow network, then T-Mo it is. They only thing I don't like is their phone selection. :/ I think I'll go for an Unlocked Gnex, with a SIM, or wait for the Note II to hit. But if I can find a Razr Maxx HD for GSM once it gets out, that would be the shiznit.

F3L1XZS said:
Hell no. They raise prices up more than $1, I'm jumping ship to T-Mo. In Miami, T-Mo is fire, and if Sprint is gonna make me pay the same as T-Mo, but with their slow network, then T-Mo it is. They only thing I don't like is their phone selection. :/ I think I'll go for an Unlocked Gnex, with a SIM, or wait for the Note II to hit. But if I can find a Razr Maxx HD for GSM once it gets out, that would be the shiznit.
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they do have the s2 and s3, and pretty soon the note 2, to me those would me one of my choices, but im locked in sprint untill 2014 so i can only speculate untill then

I don't want anymore higher prices. I've been paying 10 extra dollars on 3 lines since the Evo 4G came out. I've had horrible 3G data results since 2010. The wimax speed results I get around me aren't worth bragging either.

ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
they do have the s2 and s3, and pretty soon the note 2, to me those would me one of my choices, but im locked in sprint untill 2014 so i can only speculate untill then
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Yeah, I think I'll wait for the Note II to drop, because I don't even care about screen sizes anymore, all I want is a phone with a humongous battery that will be me through the day, and doesn't bulge my pockets. (I'm looking at you, extended batteries)
But then again, you can't go wrong with a Nexus, Nexus devices are always fairly decent, and development is lightning fast with minor kinks.

F3L1XZS said:
Yeah, I think I'll wait for the Note II to drop, because I don't even care about screen sizes anymore, all I want is a phone with a humongous battery that will be me through the day, and doesn't bulge my pockets. (I'm looking at you, extended batteries)
But then again, you can't go wrong with a Nexus, Nexus devices are always fairly decent, and development is lightning fast with minor kinks.
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hopefully the next nexus is completely orgasmic super high end phone with samsungs exynos 5 processor in it with 2 gigs of ram. if that phone became reality i would seriously consider paying the etf selling my s2 and going to tmobile. All because i want data service thats worth having on a bad ass phone like that. its sad when cricket has better data speeds

Higher prices, ****ty service. Yea, Im switching to AT&T.

ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
hopefully the next nexus is completely orgasmic super high end phone with samsungs exynos 5 processor in it with 2 gigs of ram. if that phone became reality i would seriously consider paying the etf selling my s2 and going to tmobile. All because i want data service thats worth having on a bad ass phone like that. its sad when cricket has better data speeds
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I agree, the next nexus device having the above specs would be pretty orgasmic. As it is right now, though, exynos processors are always behind OMAP processors in terms of official development, which means more time between leaks, stuff breaking every five seconds, crappy battery life, the sort of things we are dealing with right now on ICS and JB. But if Google can figure it out, and also it into the next nexus, then it'll be worth every penny. Good thing is, my upgrade is right after Google I/O, so hopefully, Sprint picks it up, and when they decide to raise prices, I'll drop them, and trade the nexus for a GSM version, and pick up Tmo
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I hope they do, so that I can jump ship to tmobile with no ETF ...

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I bought the International, Unlocked N7000 Galaxy Note. The idea is to move to Straight Talk this weekend. The savings on two lines will pay for the ETF in less then 6 months. Plus I can sell the E4T for a decent price or maybe even trade it. I live in the Roseville / Sacramento area and rarely get 4G. Today it took 6 attempts to upload a picture to Facebook while in the heart of Roseville. This happens all the time. I have tried to get out of my contract since I am currently between jobs but they said "Sorry about you not having a job, but we can't let you out of the contract."

During precal the other day, my friend was playing on his brand new Tmo GS3. In that classroom, my girlfriend, and a few other friends have Sprint. All of them have iPhones, and we all have 1-2 bars fluctuating, though most of the times, they get no reception (Should've skipped out on crapple!) Meanwhile, this kid has 4 bars of service, and his data is so fast, I really wanted to cry.
Ontop of that, any Tmo phone in the Miami area has about 1-2 hours of extra battery life thanks to the badass Tmo towers in the area.
About a year ago, I had the choice of Tmo and Sprint, but I opted for Sprint because they had the better spec'd GS2 out of all the variants, and at that time, my opinion of Tmo was that it sucked balls (imagine me, this naive mother****er who had never tested either Tmo's or Sprint's speeds. Boy, I was really, really ****ing wrong about Tmo.
Right now, I'm considering selling my GS2 in a few months when the price of my etf goes down, and pay the etf with the price of the phone, and use the left overs+some extra money to buy a GS3 or a nexus or something. Or maybe I'll just wait it out till September of next year.
In any case, fingers crossed that Sprint decides to raise their prices, or change some term. I'll keep a close eye on the T&C of the bills every month, and all charges.

F3L1XZS said:
During precal the other day, my friend was playing on his brand new Tmo GS3. In that classroom, my girlfriend, and a few other friends have Sprint. All of them have iPhones, and we all have 1-2 bars fluctuating, though most of the times, they get no reception (Should've skipped out on crapple!) Meanwhile, this kid has 4 bars of service, and his data is so fast, I really wanted to cry.
Ontop of that, any Tmo phone in the Miami area has about 1-2 hours of extra battery life thanks to the badass Tmo towers in the area.
About a year ago, I had the choice of Tmo and Sprint, but I opted for Sprint because they had the better spec'd GS2 out of all the variants, and at that time, my opinion of Tmo was that it sucked balls (imagine me, this naive mother****er who had never tested either Tmo's or Sprint's speeds. Boy, I was really, really ****ing wrong about Tmo.
Right now, I'm considering selling my GS2 in a few months when the price of my etf goes down, and pay the etf with the price of the phone, and use the left overs+some extra money to buy a GS3 or a nexus or something. Or maybe I'll just wait it out till September of next year.
In any case, fingers crossed that Sprint decides to raise their prices, or change some term. I'll keep a close eye on the T&C of the bills every month, and all charges.
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I've had an iPhone 5 on sprint for a couple of days. Data was so slow and I never experienced a drop call until I got an iPhone. I think their radios are just crap....switched back to this phone immediately.
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i pay $33 a month (radio shack employee plan)