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Be Careful Using Other Carrier PRL's. (Terminated)

Well i know everybody said to be careful but i didnt actually think i was gonna get Terminated... i had the 00001 Verizon Prl and i used about 6gbs a month haha. They got me, but im jus gonna jump on my freinds plan I still <3 Sprint.

Well at least we know for sure that this is a way to get out of your Sprint contract and without an ETT fee.

LouSkywalker said:
Well at least we know for sure that this is a way to get out of your Sprint contract and without an ETT fee.
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haha yup very true. i jus started my 2 years over too.

Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw

rpnunez said:
Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw
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they didnt say anything about my phone, and no i JUST extended my two year contract for it.

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Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw
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They can't ask you for your phone back.

Did they ban your ESN?
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Hi there,
I noticed you'd said you used around 6gb for months...
How many months did you get away with this?
Also, did they NEVER send you a letter/call you telling you that you were roaming a lot?
You'd think they'd give you a heads up.
One other thought... Do you think you could call them and ask them to not terminate you? Basically say something like, oh i only roam while at home, can you send me an airave so that I don't roam at home (at the office i get great service), something like that?
-RR

h20wakebum said:
Hi there,
I noticed you'd said you used around 6gb for months...
How many months did you get away with this?
Also, did they NEVER send you a letter/call you telling you that you were roaming a lot?
You'd think they'd give you a heads up.
One other thought... Do you think you could call them and ask them to not terminate you? Basically say something like, oh i only roam while at home, can you send me an airave so that I don't roam at home (at the office i get great service), something like that?
-RR
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ive been doin it almost a year now, no they never warned me :/ a heads up wud have been nice, and your right i probably could do that but i rly dont care, my friends gonna let me jump on his plan then i can get a phone at a new line price

You should send them a bill for an ETF.
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bahahahahahaha...
Thanks....
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Frohdisiac said:
ive been doin it almost a year now, no they never warned me :/ a heads up wud have been nice, and your right i probably could do that but i rly dont care, my friends gonna let me jump on his plan then i can get a phone at a new line price
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12 months is a good amount of time.
Were you consistantly downloading around 6gb a month (on roam)?
I suspect if you just used this on your phone for normal activites (streaming pandora/web searches/google maps/nav etc...) that you'd probably be good to go.
I only ask because I have HORRIBLE service where I live and found the 01337 prl to be 1000x improvement as far as speed (60681- 10kb/s if lucky, 01337-mod 120 kb/s).
-RR

I'm surprised they don't look into where you're roaming and figure out why it's roaming so much.
if roaming because of PRL(They see great Sprint coverage where you roam) - warn you about it and charge ETF.
If roaming because of no sprint = cut service off as was done to OP.
What if you want to renew with them? Do they add you to some sort of black list?

newalker91 said:
I don't understand why anyone is acting surprised. This is clearly outlined in your contract that if you use over 50% of your voice/data per month roaming that your account will be subject to termination. The fact that they allowed you to get away with it for a year while using far more data roaming than the average Sprint customer does on the native network is nothing short of amazing. The massive bill that you have racked them up in roaming charges from Verizon should be grounds for them to sue you, to be honest. Sprint can see your PRL, and forcibly changing your PRL to roam 100% of the time should be grounds for termination with ETF. This ruins things for the rest of us as the revenue that could have gone to expanding/improving our network is now being used to pay off the massive debt incurred by people abusing roaming privileges.
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I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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h20wakebum said:
I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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Exactly my same thoughts especialy since they are charging you that extra 10 bucks a month and for what ****ty service.
I am half tempted on doing this since verizon is full speed here where I live. Sprint better WTFU and get on the ball.

Wizard220 said:
Exactly my same thoughts especialy since they are charging you that extra 10 bucks a month and for what ****ty service.
I am half tempted on doing this since verizon is full speed here where I live. Sprint better WTFU and get on the ball.
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Well if you want Verizon speeds, then you can go on Verizon IMO. While I love the fact that Sprint has low prices and I'd LOVE if they actually made them into decent speeds, jumping on a different PRL and getting terminated will just be worse int he long run since I don't want to pay for verizon service.

Wow, I honesty don't remember ever seeing anyone confirm that they were booted for excessive roaming. I never change PRLs and hardly ever roam but thanks for letting people know.
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newalker91 said:
I don't understand why anyone is acting surprised. This is clearly outlined in your contract that if you use over 50% of your voice/data per month roaming that your account will be subject to termination. The fact that they allowed you to get away with it for a year while using far more data roaming than the average Sprint customer does on the native network is nothing short of amazing. The massive bill that you have racked them up in roaming charges from Verizon should be grounds for them to sue you, to be honest. Sprint can see your PRL, and forcibly changing your PRL to roam 100% of the time should be grounds for termination with ETF. This ruins things for the rest of us as the revenue that could have gone to expanding/improving our network is now being used to pay off the massive debt incurred by people abusing roaming privileges.
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thank you for your presence here on XDA
i'd like to take a minute to mention 2 things.
1. in a contract that takes longer than ONE (1) minute to read, there is no such thing as "clearly stated" and I can't vouch for your colleagues encouraging people to read them. the contract gets highlighted in a couple places and it's a "sign here, here 'n here sur!"
2. there's a clause in federal law where if party B agrees to not do something under contract with party A, and party A does not enforce their contract within X time frame (never knew how long but would love to know), party A has then waived their right to file suit.

h20wakebum said:
I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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Your 3G speeds are only 10kbps? You must live in a lead box.

12MaNy said:
Your 3G speeds are only 10kbps? You must live in a lead box.
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You're telling me.
Just ran a speed test and got 205kbps!!! WOW so fast!!!
Somtimes It's as bad as 10-70 kbps... It's horrible...
Anywho... Gotta hope Sprint will eventually fix their network, I see 6 towers being updated over the next 6 months.
-RR

[Q] Cancel sprint contact with no etf?

Im tired of sprint, ive been screwed out of an upgrade and there was countless times fraud occured while on my parents family plan through assurion but thats besides the point. im on my own plan now and the unlimited speeds are painfully slow not to mention the 4g i pay for thats not in available in my area.my question is this, if i roam over 300 megs of data a month i understand that sprint will cancel me and that is what i want but will there be an ETF? if anyone knows or has had experience with this please let me know. i apologize for posting this, i know its been discussed before but from what i read i was only seeing people who were upset about being canceled but im wanting to use this to get canceled but i was unable to determine if there will be an ETF, thanks for your help.

A) how were you screwed out of an upgrade? If there has been a legitimate error it can be corrected. For example if you returned a product but your contract didn't get reset.
B) what 4G are you paying for? Sprint doesn't charge extra for 4g,only for smartphone access.
C) using too much roaming data is technically grounds for charges by the mb, plus termination with etf still being charged. In practice, it is usually just a friendly parting of ways.
If you were unhappy with the speeds you shouldn't have signed a contract, or returned the device during the return policy. The speeds are not appreciably different now vs 8 months ago. In my area they have improved noticeably.
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i think i may attempt this with you. using my basic logic im thinking if they "boot you" then you wouldn't have to pay etf cause u didn't et. but as we all know basic logic was thrown out the window by cellular companies so i could be wrong. I'm just thinking that's why people go to the measures they do, to get canceled by sprint thus avoiding the etf. actually i just made up my mind, i will join you on this journey. new orleans and surrounding areas has been **** since b4 katrina. seems veriz and tmob are the only ones with good/great service around here.
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i apologize that was a bit of a rant i should also mention i work in a different location and the speeds there are terrible but but i was refferering to the premium data charge "4g" of which is not available in my area and will not be since sprint is abondaning development for their wimax. and as far as the upgrade my last upgrade with sprint was somewhere around 2008 id say i still should have had my upgrade available due to one of my parents letting me use their upgrade to get a new device but somehow or another both my upgrade and parents upgrades were used and as far as signing a contract i didnt i perfromed a latteral transfer which allows me to pay for my own bill with out having to buy out of my parents contract although i checked yesterday and i believe it extended two years while my next upgrade isnt available for another 363 days but you do think they will charge the etf?

veritasaequita said:
i think i may attempt this with you. using my basic logic im thinking if they "boot you" then you wouldn't have to pay etf cause u didn't et. but as we all know basic logic was thrown out the window by cellular companies so i could be wrong. I'm just thinking that's why people go to the measures they do, to get canceled by sprint thus avoiding the etf. actually i just made up my mind, i will join you on this journey. new orleans and surrounding areas has been **** since b4 katrina. seems veriz and tmob are the only ones with good/great service around here.
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its worth a shot to me because i was going to pay the etf anyways right now im just using roam control im up to 391 megs in two days while roaming so id say it shouldnt be long before im flagged

.... some real winners in this thread
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Again op you do not pay for 4g access. You pay ten dollars extra because its a smartphone. Btw. You entered a contract then you are disappointed and want to leave. But you don't want to pay a dime. Ya dude just stop paying your bill. Pretty easy. They don't even check. But seriously be the super teenager you are and pay the damn fee and go get yourself a nice flip phone
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I just do not get peoples thought processes sometimes. I freaking love sprint. data speeds are amazing in my neck of the woods. I get 1.1mb Down and 670kb up on 3G and 16.7mb Down and 1.51 mb up on 4G. I think once I managed to pull 24mb down on 4G. All other carriers throttle you after 2gb of data use. Sprint wont. Thats just my two cents.
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megs of roaming won't ever get you kicked off. Yes, they can charge you overages AND an etf if they wish, and they have on occasion. Most the time they don't though.

ReActiveDisorder said:
I just do not get peoples thought processes sometimes. I freaking love sprint. data speeds are amazing in my neck of the woods. I get 1.1mb Down and 670kb up on 3G and 16.7mb Down and 1.51 mb up on 4G. I think once I managed to pull 24mb down on 4G. All other carriers throttle you after 2gb of data use. Sprint wont. Thats just my two cents.
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Oh wow, you are so cool!

ReActiveDisorder said:
I just do not get peoples thought processes sometimes. I freaking love sprint. data speeds are amazing in my neck of the woods. I get 1.1mb Down and 670kb up on 3G and 16.7mb Down and 1.51 mb up on 4G. I think once I managed to pull 24mb down on 4G. All other carriers throttle you after 2gb of data use. Sprint wont. Thats just my two cents.
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Not everybody gets such good speeds as you...and it's been consistenly awful for a while now.
I just ran a speedtest for me in KC, not far from Sprint Headquarters and 213kbps down and 98kbps up, and that's good for me. I'm almost exclusively am on wireless just so I can actually browse or get on the internet. That's not the reason I pay for my cellphone. You better believe I'll be looking at another carrier after my contract expires.

In before the lock!
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slick4mitch said:
Oh wow, you are so cool!
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I know right.
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Iczer said:
Not everybody gets such good speeds as you...and it's been consistenly awful for a while now.
I just ran a speedtest for me in KC, not far from Sprint Headquarters and 213kbps down and 98kbps up, and that's good for me. I'm almost exclusively am on wireless just so I can actually browse or get on the internet. That's not the reason I pay for my cellphone. You better believe I'll be looking at another carrier after my contract expires.
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Have fun with that. Ive been on verizon. tmobile. and att and sprint is by far the best value.
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I think this one can go over to the Sprint forums. Not xda.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

Sprint reportedly cancelling......

Ahhhhh damn here we go again.....LOL
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/sprint-cancelling-early-upgrades/
"Like dominoes, Sprint's consumer-friendly policies continue to fall one at a time. Citing "high costs," the Now Network will begin discontinuing its practice of allowing customers to upgrade their phone 10-14 days prior to the official date of eligibility" - They aint lying

Not too bad, but still disappointing.
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Eh, no big deal to me. But it sucks for those that take advantage of it. Thanks for sharing.

Yea its not earth shattering but its just another broken link in the chain of bad decisions by Sprint lately. The sad part is you sit back and go what next...

In my point of veiw all sprint has done the last year is raise cost for us! We customers who wanted 4g and bought the evo 4g most never seen or connected to 4g. 3G speeds are beyond terrible and downright bog to 1X kind of speed during busy hours. At this point the cost between Sprint and verizon service is closing more and more as we speak. So I can expect many more customers to think, Why not go to a service with great data and call connectivity. Sprint really had a good think going with cost effective plans, but since have taken away many things like discounts on all lines, premier customers, ect ect. I know they are still cheaper but for how long and when will we see good data speeds like other companies? We are dead last in that!

How on earth is two weeks early costly?

Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.

I don't see this as a big deal whatsoever. The last line of the memo is the most important Imo. Everyone is eligible for upgrade the 1st of the month their contract is up. What more can you ask for?
As far as sprint saving money, not sure how really. I mean by allowing an early upgrade they are guaranteeing 22 months of payment out of you. Most of us would use that 2 weeks to get a new phone on launch, right? What happens when instead of getting a launch phone with them early, another carrier has a new phone being released when your contract is up? I'm blabbing, but what I'm saying is if they let me upgrade a little early I would be more likely to stay with that provider. But if I wait then I'm suddenly out of contract, which would make me shop around carriers.
Tl;dr
I see potential loss here, because they are basically giving sprint customers a reason to shop around while off contract instead of always keeping us in contract by allowing early upgrades.
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ib4 'would this allow me to get out w/o paying ETF', 'is this a breach of contract?', etc

Figures... Admittedly the 3g speeds are ridiculously slow... The only thing keeping me with sprint is the unlimited data... When that goes out the window so do I...
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Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.

Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/

daryelv said:
Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.
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Exactly, if you treat this as a separate event then its not a big deal but if you start to add up all that has happened in the past year and since the Iphone came aboard and it may upset you especially if you took 2 minutes to have this page refresh due to network restraints....

brooksyx said:
Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
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Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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mattykinsx said:
Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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Yeah, I do wish I had verizon for their great coverage, thats what I had before my parents kicked me off of their plan.
But hey I don't mind my virgin mobile: 1200min/unlimited text/unlimited data for $40 a month. I am pretty happy with that. Even have unlimited wimax 4g
I will probably switch over to sprint in a year or two though when I can afford it better.

chadillac3 said:
Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.
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i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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I think this is a good move. You guys that are complaining about it need to see what we see in the stores. This 14 day early deal is confusing to customers and abused by third party stores. The cost savings are in reduced overrides that are done when customers come in confused. Id rather have a consistent, fair policy than one that can be used to work the system by some and not taken advantage of by others. The upgrade now promo is a perfect example of a policy change that makes sense. Customers in March could pay to reset their upgrade regardless of the plan they were on. Instead of yearly upgrades for customers on expensive plans, now anyone could get it with a little extra cash if they need it.
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darksideauto said:
i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!

HenryDCase said:
Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!
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She should be getting LTE by end of this year, though...with Sprint...I may be retired before it happens.

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How on earth is two weeks early costly?
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cause if you do it everytime you can over 54 years you just got a free phone.

Returning phones with no ETF?

Hi, I posted this question in the general xda section, but no one has replied so I am hoping someone here can respond.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811329

use a 3G roaming prl and download a TON of (legal) torrents. It might take 2 to 4 months, but they will drop you from service.
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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years and I've had almost zero complaints until these dang smart phones became the mainstream thing to have. Back when I had my Samsung Instinct the speeds were GOOD. For example, tethering was around 1.5mb all day long. By the time I got the EVO 4G though, things went down the toilet. Smart phones got super popular and Sprint simply couldn't handle it.
To top that off we got slapped in the face with a $10 dollar premium for 4G, oh excuse me "premium data" that doesn't even work for most of us. I have no 4G here and I' lucky to get 50kb's on 3G. I get 1.2mb on the Verizon PRL though.
I'd been using the 11115 PRL and toggling between Sprint and Verizon when I needed more speed but I've recently switched to the 00002 PRL in hopes of getting dropped. I shouldnt HAVE to toggle to Verizon to make my phone work.
I've complained to Sprint, they simply do not care. I bet they will start to care when I plug my phone in this weekend and pick some random Blue-ray sized files to torrent over 3G.
Can't wait to get over to AT&T or Verizon. I loved Sprint when it worked. I'd rather have a 5GB cap that works then unlimited that doesn't. Who cares about unlimited if you can't use it?
The plus side to having them boot me is I can keep my Epic Touch and resell it to help re-coop some of the money I feel I got scammed out of dealing with Sprint now that they don't seem to want to fix their network or compensate those of us who are/were loyal customers and are sick of this slow non-usable network.

Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.

amen sister.
I'm almost 1 year into my 2 year contract with sprint and I cannot wait until I can get out of it. I signed on because of unlimited data, which is great because I get 4g at work, but if I'm not at work or near one of the sp****ly placed 4g towers, I'm screwed.
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tgruendler said:
Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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do you have 4g wherever you go in your city?
My problem is that there are 6 4g towers placed around cincinnati and if you're not withing 1-2 miles of it, no 4g for you. Then, because we are a fairly dense market, the 3g speeds suck and the phone is almost useless.
Sprint does suck. Sprint has fallen so far behind the competition that i'm shocked that anybody ever renews a contract with them.

Yeah my service with sprint (virgin mobile) ain't great but hey I pay $25 a month for service. You just can't beat that!
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It I was paying $25 a month, I wouldn't ***** but I'm paying $108ish and I feel like I'm being kicked in the balls.
Being a 10+ year Sprint customer who has seen the service go down the drain, I have every right to complain because I know how it used to be before they decided to add all these new smart devices but not add new network to back them up.

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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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Yeah, I have no plans of using the Verizon PRL and get kicked. I have been in touch with customer service and it is getting to the point where they might let me out without ETF. I did not know that they would request the phones to be returned so I am trying to decide 1) if that's reasonable, and 2) if it is, then if it would be cheaper to pay ETF instead.

Tell them to refund your $200.00 dollars and you will be glad to return it.
I would be annoyed if on top of paying for the crap service they also wanted the phone back.

tgruendler said:
Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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Agreed as well. If you sign a contract, man-up and fulfill your side of the agreement.

I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.

kdoggy said:
I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.
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What exactly did they promise? They specifically do not promise any speed, ive looked.

I agree with u op. Sprint speeds have gotten a lot worse for me as well. My phone is not usable unless I'm on wifi. Its ridiculous. BUT u did sign a contract and you had two weeks to try it out. Hope it works out for u.
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The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.

kdoggy said:
The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.
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If it is so bad that you cannot even use it, you need to call Sprint, and keep calling them until they either fix it or they let you out of your contract because they are not living up to their obligation to the contract. Coming on XDA and crying about it will get you nowhere. This is a development website, not a ***** fest site about the provider. Take this **** elsewhere.

I'm going to stop this before it goes any further. Sorry your speeds aren't up to par (mine aren't either), but you will need to find another way than discussing here. Contracts are contracts, no way around it. Just call and call until you get the answer you want. This will turn out to be a war and we do not need that here as we have enough of that already.

Just switched over to AT&T, need some help dealing with Sprint and an ETF.

My sprint phones been roaming for months. I expected Sprint to boot me but they have not. I was hoping they would, the data simply doesn't work right for me. I've even tried leaving torrents running on Verizon 3G Roaming and still nothing.
I would love to stay with Sprint but we have only WiMax here in a small area which I'm outside of unless I go downtown and the 3G is a joke. A high speed test for me is 30kbps on a good day. Using Verizon's PRL, I got up to 800 which was better then nothing.
Sprint won't boot me because I'm a 12 year customer and my bills always paid on time. I have my account setup for an auto payment via my debt card and recently I noticed I was billed like $200+ a month in overage because I went over my 450minute plan, roaming. I had no idea they billed you minutes if you were roaming even when its cell to cell.
I called them up, complained about not knowing that and they credited me back ALL the overages for like 3~4 months and they got me on a unlimited everything plan. I even told them my phone roamed 24/7 and maybe I should just buy out my contact and find a new provider. The manager I spoke to said basically if I don't care about the roaming, they don't care and they were not going to let roaming be an issue for them to terminate my account and that sooner or later the service WOULD get better. Then he offered me another $200 dollar credit to stick with Sprint and wait it out.
I definitely can't complain about the customer service!
However, that does me no good when the data doesn't work. Webpages time out, steaming audio does NOT work off WiFi. What is the point of unlimited if it doesn't work?
I just picked up a ATT Galaxy S3 and the 3g data is insanely fast. The LTE is amazing too.
I was just going to keep both phones active and we what happens with Sprint this next year but carrying two phones sucks and I really only need my Sprint number.
I ported my Sprint number over to ATT today.
I know this causes my account to close. What can I do to avoid paying a full ETF fee? Do they pro-rate? I only have 9 or so months left on my contact. I will be happy to go back to Sprint if they work out there data issues at a later date when my ATT contract is up if they don't rape me over this ETF. Again I was a customer for 12 years and like 4~5 years ago everything was good,even with the data. All these smart phones came and things went down hill. I stuck around and renewed contracts because they kept promising it would get better. 2 and a half contracts later, it has NOT gotten better.
Has anyone had luck just explaining that to them? I'm hoping if I call them back up and say look, my phone was roaming 24/7, neither Sprints data or Verizon's roaming data was acceptable and I've been a loyal customer who is willing to come back if and when you guys fix the now network, if you dont screw me on my whole ETF.
For all the hassles I've had, I think they should waive it but I'm sure they won't
I just want feedback on what to expect and what I should do next. If they want to loose me forever over $250.00 dollars, whatever but I really liked Sprint until they got all these damn smartphones and their network couldn't handle it.

I'm curious to just ask, what happens if you don't pay the ETF?
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locoboi187 said:
I'm curious to just ask, what happens if you don't pay the ETF?
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Collections is sent after you.
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BluesRulez said:
Collections is sent after you.
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Won't the phone on the line also carry a bad esn?
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Jocelyn said:
Won't the phone on the line also carry a bad esn?
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Oh there are number of things. Companies will attempt to get money first. So close accounts in good faith. Pay off, return equipment for cable companies etc.
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Double post, sorry!

Yeah if I can't get them to work with me on the ETF, they are going to loose a customer for life. I'll pay the ETF fee and let them know I won't be back even after they fix there network speed issues. They might see it as they have already lost me since I've ported and I have an AT&T line of service now and they might think well, screw him, lets get that ETF money but I'm hoping when I call retention tonight after work when I have more time I can convince them to drop the ETF fee. They might not care though.
Given all the issues I've had with data, I think it would be fare for them to let me out of my ETF and I would definitely consider a return in two years if their network gets better.
My bills paid current, always on time, actually I'm negative -$40.00 right now. I've been a good customer. I rarely called to complain in 12 years. I never begged for credits, I've never threatened to leave. Hell, I wouldn't have left if the data worked. I could deal with not having 4G WiMax or LTE but the 3G was SO bad I was paying for something I couldn't use.
Did I mention how insanely fast AT&T's 3G and HSPA+ is? Oh and check this out so I had my first run in with AT&T's legacy 2G service today. 2G Edge they call it. The speeds tests were like 100 kbps BUT pages actually still loaded and things were browsable. I was shocked. Things just normally time out on Sprint's 3G and it's suppose to be faster then 2G Edge.
Anyway right now at this point, Sprint with Unlimited Data an AT&T with Tiered Data, I'd rather have AT&T now that I've seen how well it works. One neat thing is I keep getting these pop-ups all over the place that say "Welcome to AT&T Wifi Hotspot", then it jumps on some AT&T wireless Wifi and it doesn't take data. Seems they have them all over my city and where I work.

Congrats

If you want out of your contract pay your ETF, period. At 9 months it will be prorated but people like you trying to get out of contacts free and abusing roaming are why rates go up and perks get removed. Because of crap like this we're gonna end up losing unlimited data. You chose to enter into the contract, honor it. If you want out pay the ETF like everyone else or be patient and wait out the NV upgrades and drop AT&T during the buyers remorse period.
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1. Yes the ETF is pro-rated, so should not be too much with 9 months left.
2. You got a phone for like $100-$200 on that contract right? Its worth $600 new. That's why ETFs exist.
3. Since you won't need that sprint phone anymore, sell it to cover the ETF. Boom, you are out of your contract and didn't lose much/anything.

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1. Yes the ETF is pro-rated, so should not be too much with 9 months left.
2. You got a phone for like $100-$200 on that contract right? Its worth $600 new. That's why ETFs exist.
3. Since you won't need that sprint phone anymore, sell it to cover the ETF. Boom, you are out of your contract and didn't lose much/anything.
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Good advice here. Even using Sprint buyback program you get like $85 for E4GT.
ATT has its own service issues, glad its working for you though. Cell service quality can be extremely regional and I have switched carriers several times in the last 10 years after a move.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Even if you sell the phone for dirt cheap. As long as it covers ETF you should be good.
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I will have to close this as it will leave a bad taste in some members mouths. I have shut quite a few of these down in the past. Hope it works out for you doggy.