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Need help canceling without etf

I posted about a week ago, and was told to just call and ask. I was told I have good coverage in my area(b.s) and that i use to much data to possibly complain about my service. Can anyone give me some tips, I get horrible coverage, I already received an airwave, which only works when i'm at home. I want to switch to verizon cause lte is in my area unlike wimax, but etf fees kill it having 3 lines.

redsoxfan320 said:
I posted about a week ago, and was told to just call and ask. I was told I have good coverage in my area(b.s) and that i use to much data to possibly complain about my service. Can anyone give me some tips, I get horrible coverage, I already received an airwave, which only works when i'm at home. I want to switch to verizon cause lte is in my area unlike wimax, but etf fees kill it having 3 lines.
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Call them back up, explain that the speeds ARE slow and tell them you can send screenshots of proof if they need you to prove it.

mattykinsx said:
Call them back up, explain that the speeds ARE slow and tell them you can send screenshots of proof if they need you to prove it.
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I'll try that, do you think they make notes that i already called and what they told me.

redsoxfan320 said:
I'll try that, do you think they make notes that i already called and what they told me.
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They notate the account but that's not really relevant here.
If you can prove that your speeds have been terrible with screenshots, they can't really argue with that.

redsoxfan320 said:
I posted about a week ago, and was told to just call and ask. I was told I have good coverage in my area(b.s) and that i use to much data to possibly complain about my service. Can anyone give me some tips, I get horrible coverage, I already received an airwave, which only works when i'm at home. I want to switch to verizon cause lte is in my area unlike wimax, but etf fees kill it having 3 lines.
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I get terrible connection speeds on my EVO everywhere...except when I am roaming on verizon!
I see you have a 2011 Macbook Pro 2011....I love mine, I have the 15".

mattykinsx said:
They notate the account but that's not really relevant here.
If you can prove that your speeds have been terrible with screenshots, they can't really argue with that.
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Okay thanks, just wondering do you have any experience doing this or maybe know someone? Just looking for something assuring. But i guess i call them back now.

redsoxfan320 said:
I posted about a week ago, and was told to just call and ask. I was told I have good coverage in my area(b.s) and that i use to much data to possibly complain about my service. Can anyone give me some tips, I get horrible coverage, I already received an airwave, which only works when i'm at home. I want to switch to verizon cause lte is in my area unlike wimax, but etf fees kill it having 3 lines.
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http://www.ucan.org/telecommunications/wireless/material_adverse_clauses_in_cell_phone_contracts
"if a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse affect on you, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment."
If you were just switched from premier gold to silver like many people were, you might be able to use this clause to get out of your contract.

redsoxfan320 said:
Okay thanks, just wondering do you have any experience doing this or maybe know someone? Just looking for something assuring. But i guess i call them back now.
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Although I am not currently interested in actually switching from Sprint [not really any companies with comparable rates nor a business philosophy that I could justify giving money to], they did extend a removal of any ETF fees to all my lines for this slow data issue, just in case.
ausch30 said:
http://www.ucan.org/telecommunications/wireless/material_adverse_clauses_in_cell_phone_contracts
"if a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse affect on you, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment."
If you were just switched from premier gold to silver like many people were, you might be able to use this clause to get out of your contract.
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No because the Sprint Premier program is an added benefit not a requirement.

anthonyandrews said:
I get terrible connection speeds on my EVO everywhere...except when I am roaming on verizon!
I see you have a 2011 Macbook Pro 2011....I love mine, I have the 15".
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I have the 13' only because i don't really need the additional specs. I just browse, email, some facebook and forums. The only thing i've seen on here this beauty that used a lot of power was video converting for my ipad. It still went faced just made the fans run.. Gotta love it

mattykinsx said:
Although I am not currently interested in actually switching from Sprint [not really any companies with comparable rates nor a business philosophy that I could justify giving money to], they did extend a removal of any ETF fees to all my lines for this slow data issue, just in case.
No because the Sprint Premier program is an added benefit not a requirement.
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Thanks, and i've read the same about the premier program..

If you don't have many months left on the contracts the 3 etfs could be $300 total and sell the phones.

rushco said:
If you don't have many months left on the contracts the 3 etfs could be $300 total and sell the phones.
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Yeah but let's keep in mind that when you're switching not only are you getting a new plan but you're also buying all new phones which can cost around $1000.

The total to cancel my 3 lines would be $420 and I could sell the phones for $900 obo. Which wouldn't leave enough to buy 3 thunderbolts, but they did give me a $50 discount for this month only.
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Why don't you drive to a local Starbucks that's close enough with 4G/3G. Flash the Verizon prl and for like a week or two just sit in Starbucks and say you're doing a survey to test sprints 4G/3G and offer 8 people to connect to your evo. Each day you go just keep letting users connect to your 4G claiming you're a sprint Rep and watch your data sky rocket!!!!! Lol Then sprint will have no choice but to let you off since you'll be roaming on Verizons network. Get back at those a$$holes.
You're welcome!
~ d3rk

dirkyd3rk said:
Why don't you drive to a local Starbucks that's close enough with 4G/3G. Flash the Verizon prl and for like a week or two just sit in Starbucks and say you're doing a survey to test sprints 4G/3G and offer 8 people to connect to your evo. Each day you go just keep letting users connect to your 4G claiming you're a sprint Rep and watch your data sky rocket!!!!! Lol Then sprint will have no choice but to let you off since you'll be roaming on Verizons network. Get back at those a$$holes.
You're welcome!
~ d3rk
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Because that's wrong?

mattykinsx said:
Because that's wrong?
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Who gives a ****. Who does the right thing 100% of the time. Sprint surely isn't doing the "right" thing by not expanding 4G fast enough not to mention terrible data speeds across the board. So don't come at me with this right from wrong b.s were not in elementary.
~ d3rk

dirkyd3rk said:
Who gives a ****. Who does the right thing 100% of the time. Sprint surely isn't doing the "right" thing by not expanding 4G fast enough not to mention terrible data speeds across the board. So don't come at me with this right from wrong b.s were not in elementary.
~ d3rk
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First of all, it's not across the board.
Some cities are having the problem, most are not.
Second of all, the 4g expansion is a matter of money issues.
The suggestion that Sprint is taking their time fixing these issues and taking their time expanding 4g because they want to is just ridiculous.
And by the way did you just suggest that doing the right thing is an elementary school quality?
How pathetic, man, seriously.

mattykinsx said:
First of all, it's not across the board.
Some cities are having the problem, most are not.
Second of all, the 4g expansion is a matter of money issues.
The suggestion that Sprint is taking their time fixing these issues and taking their time expanding 4g because they want to is just ridiculous.
And by the way did you just suggest that doing the right thing is an elementary school quality?
How pathetic, man, seriously.
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First of all dont act like youre a saint, second Yes! I did lol, third, I said this isn't elementary in the sense of a grown man telling another grown man what's right from wrong(thanks dad). Anyways, I say you take my advice. Sprint isn't holding up their end of the bargain they should let you off without the fees man. Eff all that noise.
~ d3rk

dirkyd3rk said:
First of all dont act like youre a saint, second Yes! I did lol, third, I said this isn't elementary in the sense of a grown man telling another grown man what's right from wrong(thanks dad). Anyways I say you take my advice. Sprint isn't holding up their end of the bargain they should let you off without the fees man. Eff all that noise.
~ d3rk
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It is wrong to abuse something for the sake of abusing it.
Especially when sprint will and is required to waive the fees for this issue.
And I seriously hope that people that abuse in this matter are held to some sort of legal consequences.
And as far as your not needing to be told what's right and wrong...maybe if you KNEW what was right and wrong you wouldn't have to be told.

mattykinsx said:
It is wrong to abuse something for the sake of abusing it.
Especially when sprint will and is required to waive the fees for this issue.
And I seriously hope that people that abuse in this matter are held to some sort of legal consequences.
And as far as your not needing to be told what's right and wrong...maybe if you KNEW what was right and wrong you wouldn't have to be told.
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This is you talking right here..................................... <~~~~ see that, that's me actually giving a ****(I don't)
~ d3rk

[Q] After your contract is up...will you be staying on Sprint??

My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me

Phantomg93 said:
My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me
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Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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Yeah I see in your situation staying seems the good option and I don't need 4G either but I wish I could personally see how fast it is compared to 3G you know. And where I live I don't get that great signal nor speeds. I always feel like im on edge with my usual 200kbps down lol

Phantomg93 said:
the whole slow data
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Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave

Jbluna said:
Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave
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Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?

Phantomg93 said:
Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?
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Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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CrfEpic4g said:
Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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Oh neh my signal inside is actually the same outside as well, except in the basement of course. I honestly can say i've probably seen my Epic hit 1.5mbps down less than 10 times since 5months ago when I downloaded the speedtest app. It's a fun app

Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you

yes

I love sprint. verizon may be faster, but sprint is way cheaper unless you get some kind of discount with verizon. I don't need blazing fast speeds, my wifi takes care of that!

I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).

Mama Luigi said:
I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).
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Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.

XxLostSoulxX said:
Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
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I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
XxLostSoulxX said:
And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
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I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
XxLostSoulxX said:
And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
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Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.
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Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.

brad162 said:
Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.

Mama Luigi said:
I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.
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Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.
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And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here

XxLostSoulxX said:
Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here
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I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see

Phantomg93 said:
I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see
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My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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Your probably right who knows

Phantomg93 said:
Your probably right who knows
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Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.

XxLostSoulxX said:
Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.
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You do know that version of Speedtest never supported LTE yet right? Especially since LTE truly started rolling out around the time the version was made. So im going to say that this video isn't proof of a phone hitting those speeds rather than a simple glitch...For the Evo hell yes that looks exactly like Sprint network speeds haha...

Returning phones with no ETF?

Hi, I posted this question in the general xda section, but no one has replied so I am hoping someone here can respond.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811329

use a 3G roaming prl and download a TON of (legal) torrents. It might take 2 to 4 months, but they will drop you from service.
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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years and I've had almost zero complaints until these dang smart phones became the mainstream thing to have. Back when I had my Samsung Instinct the speeds were GOOD. For example, tethering was around 1.5mb all day long. By the time I got the EVO 4G though, things went down the toilet. Smart phones got super popular and Sprint simply couldn't handle it.
To top that off we got slapped in the face with a $10 dollar premium for 4G, oh excuse me "premium data" that doesn't even work for most of us. I have no 4G here and I' lucky to get 50kb's on 3G. I get 1.2mb on the Verizon PRL though.
I'd been using the 11115 PRL and toggling between Sprint and Verizon when I needed more speed but I've recently switched to the 00002 PRL in hopes of getting dropped. I shouldnt HAVE to toggle to Verizon to make my phone work.
I've complained to Sprint, they simply do not care. I bet they will start to care when I plug my phone in this weekend and pick some random Blue-ray sized files to torrent over 3G.
Can't wait to get over to AT&T or Verizon. I loved Sprint when it worked. I'd rather have a 5GB cap that works then unlimited that doesn't. Who cares about unlimited if you can't use it?
The plus side to having them boot me is I can keep my Epic Touch and resell it to help re-coop some of the money I feel I got scammed out of dealing with Sprint now that they don't seem to want to fix their network or compensate those of us who are/were loyal customers and are sick of this slow non-usable network.

Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.

amen sister.
I'm almost 1 year into my 2 year contract with sprint and I cannot wait until I can get out of it. I signed on because of unlimited data, which is great because I get 4g at work, but if I'm not at work or near one of the sp****ly placed 4g towers, I'm screwed.
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Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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do you have 4g wherever you go in your city?
My problem is that there are 6 4g towers placed around cincinnati and if you're not withing 1-2 miles of it, no 4g for you. Then, because we are a fairly dense market, the 3g speeds suck and the phone is almost useless.
Sprint does suck. Sprint has fallen so far behind the competition that i'm shocked that anybody ever renews a contract with them.

Yeah my service with sprint (virgin mobile) ain't great but hey I pay $25 a month for service. You just can't beat that!
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It I was paying $25 a month, I wouldn't ***** but I'm paying $108ish and I feel like I'm being kicked in the balls.
Being a 10+ year Sprint customer who has seen the service go down the drain, I have every right to complain because I know how it used to be before they decided to add all these new smart devices but not add new network to back them up.

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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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Yeah, I have no plans of using the Verizon PRL and get kicked. I have been in touch with customer service and it is getting to the point where they might let me out without ETF. I did not know that they would request the phones to be returned so I am trying to decide 1) if that's reasonable, and 2) if it is, then if it would be cheaper to pay ETF instead.

Tell them to refund your $200.00 dollars and you will be glad to return it.
I would be annoyed if on top of paying for the crap service they also wanted the phone back.

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Agreed as well. If you sign a contract, man-up and fulfill your side of the agreement.

I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.

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I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.
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What exactly did they promise? They specifically do not promise any speed, ive looked.

I agree with u op. Sprint speeds have gotten a lot worse for me as well. My phone is not usable unless I'm on wifi. Its ridiculous. BUT u did sign a contract and you had two weeks to try it out. Hope it works out for u.
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The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.

kdoggy said:
The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.
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If it is so bad that you cannot even use it, you need to call Sprint, and keep calling them until they either fix it or they let you out of your contract because they are not living up to their obligation to the contract. Coming on XDA and crying about it will get you nowhere. This is a development website, not a ***** fest site about the provider. Take this **** elsewhere.

I'm going to stop this before it goes any further. Sorry your speeds aren't up to par (mine aren't either), but you will need to find another way than discussing here. Contracts are contracts, no way around it. Just call and call until you get the answer you want. This will turn out to be a war and we do not need that here as we have enough of that already.

My T-Mobile story

I've had T-Mobile & a GS3 for 30 days. Works great in the city. This last weekend I went to my wife's family's house to do some hunting and spend time at their cabin. We go there a couple times a month... which I would consider to be quite often. T-mobile was basically nonfunctional. Couldn't even send a text. Phone didn't say "No Signal"... but nothing would even work, network wise. According to the coverage map, it should work. So today on my lunch I speak with a woman over T-mobile support chat. She sounded pretty optimistic that they would take care of me, but I had to call in.
I got home from work and called in... the lady understood my issues and got me over to retention. The lady in retention wanted to know where it was I was struggling with service... so she looked it up on her end. She looked it over using words like "sketchy" and "I can see it probably wouldn't work indoors" and "well, Sir, it's a cell phone... it's not going to work everywhere." She was almost snippy with me... despite the fact I was 100% calm and overly polite. She would give me no leeway since I was outside the 14 day return policy. She only offered paying full term fees or transferring to a family member. CDMA providers in the area have pretty good service. I simply want to return everything and jump over to CDMA. No hard feelings!
Does anyone have any advice or know someone with a little clout within T-mobile? This is going to be a rough two years if not....

I think if it's such an issue pay the 250 termination fee and move on. Research should have been done prior to signing up or test signal issues within the 14 days you had. Good luck
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fatboy547 said:
I think if it's such an issue pay the 250 termination fee and move on. Research should have been done prior to signing up or test signal issues within the 14 days you had. Good luck
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I hear ya. As mentioned I did check the maps. In reality what is a person supposed to do? Take a car tour of everywhere they might go within their 14 day "trial period"?

There are two biweekly periods in a month you said you go there a few times a month which is at least 3....
Does the place have internet? Wifi calling is awesome. Every single carrier map shows my house having service but it doesn't. Only wifi calling can work here.
I'd try calling again. If a supervisor refuses, then get the unlock code and sell your phone to someone with ATT. You'll probably make money.

To be honest there is nothing you can do. For starters that's not your home address so T mobile does not care because that's not your address on your bill, secondly and very sad to say say you're out of your 14 days even if that was your home address T Mobile would not let you out of a contract without paying the ETF. That's one ****ty thing about T Mobile they are notorious for things like that, once you're outta your 14 day trial if you have no service at your house the only way to get out of the contract is pay your ETF.
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How much did you pay for the phone? If it was 199, see if you can sell it for like 500. Use 250 towards termination fee and the rest towards a new phone on cdma.
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I've had T-Mobile & a GS3 for 30 days. Works great in the city. This last weekend I went to my wife's family's house to do some hunting and spend time at their cabin. We go there a couple times a month... which I would consider to be quite often. T-mobile was basically nonfunctional. Couldn't even send a text. Phone didn't say "No Signal"... but nothing would even work, network wise. According to the coverage map, it should work. So today on my lunch I speak with a woman over T-mobile support chat. She sounded pretty optimistic that they would take care of me, but I had to call in.
I got home from work and called in... the lady understood my issues and got me over to retention. The lady in retention wanted to know where it was I was struggling with service... so she looked it up on her end. She looked it over using words like "sketchy" and "I can see it probably wouldn't work indoors" and "well, Sir, it's a cell phone... it's not going to work everywhere." She was almost snippy with me... despite the fact I was 100% calm and overly polite. She would give me no leeway since I was outside the 14 day return policy. She only offered paying full term fees or transferring to a family member. CDMA providers in the area have pretty good service. I simply want to return everything and jump over to CDMA. No hard feelings!
Does anyone have any advice or know someone with a little clout within T-mobile? This is going to be a rough two years if not....
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I'm actually in the same situation. I hate there coverage but love the speeds and plans. I was looking for a pay as you use it SIM card to use whilst in no coverage areas.
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jaytxvo said:
How much did you pay for the phone? If it was 199, see if you can sell it for like 500. Use 250 towards termination fee and the rest towards a new phone on cdma.
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Not a bad idea......... may look into this.
elesbb said:
I'm actually in the same situation. I hate there coverage but love the speeds and plans. I was looking for a pay as you use it SIM card to use whilst in no coverage areas.
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Yeah... the Wi-Fi calling is nice if there's good Wi-Fi around. I spend a lot of time in the outdoors, though.

The only other option which might not help for your situation is that they can provide indoor cell phone repeaters. If you ask nicely I think they might even comp one for you. That would help if you were having trouble in the cabin, but not outside but I don't think that's the case from some of the comments you made. On the other hand, a cell phone repeater with remote antenna mounted on the roof might be just enough to bridge the gap at least while you're in the cabin itself.
And when you're outside - shouldn't you be communing with nature?

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The only other option which might not help for your situation is that they can provide indoor cell phone repeaters. If you ask nicely I think they might even comp one for you. That would help if you were having trouble in the cabin, but not outside but I don't think that's the case from some of the comments you made. On the other hand, a cell phone repeater with remote antenna mounted on the roof might be just enough to bridge the gap at least while you're in the cabin itself.
And when you're outside - shouldn't you be communing with nature?
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Funny you say this! We actually just put in a Wilson repeater system at the cabin. Works excellent when your inside... but that isn't very often! Even then the CDMA rocks the GSM.
When we're hunting we use cell phones as a primary mode of communication. The Wisconsin DNR makes two way radios illegal while hunting... but you can text or make phone calls legally. Kind-of a dumb rule this day and age, right? :silly:

That's the stupidest rule I've heard of lol. I wonder if you can use wifi calling while tethered to a friends phone. You should use the buddy system anyways
Maybe you can build a pringle can antenna?

Before you go paying EFT.. try posting on a cell swapper site and see if someone will take your plan, maybe even pay something for your phone.

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Before you go paying EFT.. try posting on a cell swapper site and see if someone will take your plan, maybe even pay something for your phone.
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Didn't know these kind of sites existed... thanks!

One of the bad things about T-Mobile is their spotty coverage. In a big city its great and so-so in a smaller city. You get out in the boonies and is very hit or miss, mostly miss....
Sorry man.
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JesseMT4G said:
One of the bad things about T-Mobile is their spotty coverage. In a big city its great and so-so in a smaller city. You get out in the boonies and is very hit or miss, mostly miss....
Sorry man.
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My thoughts exactly. And I definitely spend time in the boonies.
Anyhow... my phone sold on Craigslist for $400. Had a ton of interest. $200 to ETF and $200 towards what I paid for the phone. All in all i'm only out $50 and the service for the month. Ordering Verizon today. I definitely don't like their new plan structure... but in my case you just have to go with what works best in your next of the woods. Looked at Sprint because of their better plans... but they are like the roaming Nazis. If you go over 300 meg of data or a certain fraction of your plan's minutes on someone else's network they will drop your a$$. Happened to my brother. One day they just called and said were turning off your service tomorrow. You roam too much... get a different carrier.
Thanks for all the tips guys. I'll be around... just in a different section of the forums. Still going to get a GS3! :good:

This happened to me with Verizon a few years back. About a month into service problems started to occur. Even the sales reps verified the issues. I called corporate every 5 or so days to report dropped calls and no data signal issues. After about 6 months of swapping phones they offered to let me go without an ETF.

sipple31 said:
My thoughts exactly. And I definitely spend time in the boonies.
Anyhow... my phone sold on Craigslist for $400. Had a ton of interest. $200 to ETF and $200 towards what I paid for the phone. All in all i'm only out $50 and the service for the month. Ordering Verizon today. I definitely don't like their new plan structure... but in my case you just have to go with what works best in your next of the woods. Looked at Sprint because of their better plans... but they are like the roaming Nazis. If you go over 300 meg of data or a certain fraction of your plan's minutes on someone else's network they will drop your a$$. Happened to my brother. One day they just called and said were turning off your service tomorrow. You roam too much... get a different carrier.
Thanks for all the tips guys. I'll be around... just in a different section of the forums. Still going to get a GS3! :good:
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Did not realize they still did that crap. Almost a decade ago, if you roamed 50% or more they dropped you, and made you pay eft.

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Did not realize they still did that crap. Almost a decade ago, if you roamed 50% or more they dropped you, and made you pay eft.
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Every carrier still does this. You might not have to pay the ETF but they will drop you.
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Every carrier still does this. You might not have to pay the ETF but they will drop you.
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yeah I don't doubt that! This is the sole reason I didn't get sprint. 300 meg?! That's nothing in today's world. A good carrier needs to be a little bit lenient on the roaming business in order to provide adequate coverage.

Sorry to say but the cabin sound like its in the middle of nowhere. Any mountains around, that will make it worse? My gf parents live in the "boonies" and neither of us get a signal (she has Verizon, I have Tmo).

(Q) force roaming on verizon; getting booted; coming back?

im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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long timre ago before i went to boost I asked a agent if I left sprint when could I come back to get a deal like a new customer she said 6 month.

If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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devynbf said:
Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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U force roam by downloading the verizon prl to the root of ur internal memory, rename it to TEST.prl, the go to ur dialer and press ##3282# .. some menus come up... u click on prl write and then write prl.. phone reboots and ur done.. check ur prl number in about phone and check to see if its anything other than 5502 or what ever the new sprint prl is.
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If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
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I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
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im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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There is no point in being booted on purpose to just come back later. If that's the case then just wait it out. If you really want to get it I would call them and tell them service really sucks and if they can compensate you. I waited out and now little by little Sprint is getting better and better. I just hit lte in my town and hopefully it will be announced officially.
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I agree with the above.
Actually, it's what the OP purposes that has made it illegal to jailbreak/root phones, again, and try to bring them to another carrier. The carriers complained the government about how much money they loose because of it.
As for the OP issue, check your contract, but you might have some unlimited roaming; I forget if it's data or voice. On the same note, the bars you see, usually have little do with data; that's for voice. Thus, you go by the data connection icons--3g, 4g, etc. With that said, if it's really you may want to check out the Sprint coverage map. There is also another map that shows worked done and scheduled to done. I know for me, I get 3G and 4G around where I live. It's not everywhere. 4G speeds are no where near what I see other posts; I get in the 5 to 7mpbs down, and about 1mbps up on 4G, and around 1.5mpbs down, and .75mpbs up on 3g.
I would call Sprint and let them know your issue. It's possible they'll give you one of those 4G adapters that you can use at home with your internet. I'm not sure it's just for voice, or does data as well. I realize this may work because of lack of home internet.
Lastly, do you have the same issue inside buildings versus outside. If inside, it's possible that radio signal just can't penetrate the walls. Concrete is a notorious for this on the radio frequency that Sprint uses.

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I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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only in america do we get phones for 199.00 and under....and it is ETF's and contract fees that make up the lost dollars..Note 2 in Japan...yeah $800 american dollars..no discounts..upgrades none of that..you want it...you buy it..
so quit your crying and put your big boy pants on.

I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.

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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
I like to break stuff!
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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If your going to be coming back eventually anyway. Call and have your acct put on seasonal standby. Costs 8 $ a month but your acct will be in tact when ya come back. As for ETFs, good luck. The only exception to waiving it for now is. If your a Nextel user and they migrate you to cdma and you don't have any coverage. And by coverage I mean, no Sprint towers around. They use the coverage map to determine coverage not user experience. OR You recently moved to an area with no Sprint coverage, again no coverage per the coverage map.
The roaming situation does not work anymore due to contracts with other carriers for use of network. I can't tell you the last time I seen someone get booted due to roaming. Hell 90% of North Dakota is Off Network and we have several thousand subscribers up there.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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Well I moved 2 months after getting onto Sprint. I got a good signal at my previous home but don't get a single bar at my new home.
I'm damn sure not paying 400 dollars to get out of the contract when I could stay on Verizon's PRL and wait until 4g hits.
If it ever does.
At this rate we won't get it until next year.
$90 bucks a month for data that barely works.
$90 bucks a month on a plan I thought was gonna cost $70, because that's what I signed up for.
Frankly, Sprint sucks.
Simple as that.
Seriously Sprint needs to step up their game...
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