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Official 2.2 update

I'm asking this because i heard on other forums and also saw it on youtube that some people who got 2.2 update on defy (o2 germany i believe), some of them have 1ghz cpu on stock...so if someone can confirm this if o2 2.2 update actualyl increases the clock speed to 1ghz?

no reply? does anyone even know anything about it?

Feel free to read the Android dev forum. Instructions on there to flash your phone and up your clockspeed, at your own risk! People already running at 1.2 ghz.

2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings

I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?

kastraverde said:
I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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I join the question...

i'm using one of the leaked versions and it's working pretty well ...

Actually many reported the leaked Chinese Froyo was default to 1ghz.
Le_Poilu said:
2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
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Not as long as the bootloader remains locked. One of several things needs to happen: Moto releases a Gingerbread for Defy (or it's leaked), the bootloader is cracked, or a new bootloader that is not locked is released.
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I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD

shad0wboss said:
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy
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That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
shad0wboss said:
I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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Google have stated that Honeycomb is for tablets, not phones.
Then again, Froyo supposedly isn't for tablets but that hasn't stopped companies releasing ones running it, so who knows.
Certainly the proper dual-core utilisation that Honeycomb will bring would be useful for the likes of the Optimus 2X or the Atrix, so there'd be some motivation for manufacturers to use it.
But, at the same time, I have no doubt that Google will release a handset-oriented version of Android that will add features like that.

shad0wboss said:
Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
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Step666 said:
That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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You just repeated what i said by proving me wrong lol. Read what i actually wrote.
I said that performance wise, yes defy can handle 2.3 BUT when it's taking ages just to release 2.2, what do you guess about 2.3 comming to defy and we actually don't know if they plan to do that or not. That is motorola's choice

I understand that you said it can handle it but linking to an article about LG is a waste of time, it has nothing to do with the Defy in the slightest.
All you're doing is confusing matters.

[Q] Planning to buy this phone

Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?

1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month

Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.

And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!

You mean battery life not good?

Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.

yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?

They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.

Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).

you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now

lanfearxt said:
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!

Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.

time to root and install some custom ROMS!!

Step666 said:
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..

One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon

I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.

rusty4ever said:
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain

New defy

Hello all.
My free defy turns up tomorrow.
Hope cm7 is at the same level as it is with the SGS.
I'm sure you will all be seeing me lurking around the forums.
Sent from my phone

@iammodo I don't know at which level in CM7 for SGS, but for Defy it's pretty close to perfection (except few minor bugs). You can start by reading the development or the faq thread.

yeah..CM7 final is on the way, just wait for few bugs fixed.

From what i hear, cm7 on defy is better than on many other devices, including some officially supported ones.

Might give stock a chance.
samsung really smegged up on stock rom.
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If you want to give stock a chance, you should at least try the stock 2.3.4 (leaked of course)

boonhoong said:
If you want to give stock a chance, you should at least try the stock 2.3.4 (leaked of course)
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Yes, 2.3.4 leaked is awesome!
Despite the ultra-bright softkeys ( and data disabled icon which is fixed in the status bar ), it's worth giving a try .
I've done some mess and i had to downgrade to froyo, and so i couldn't avoid installing CM7 RC1 which is really great.
And, of course, I suggest anyone installing CM7 ( on Defy )!

Luckly I have my SGS and Xoom to use while getting my defy how I like it.
Seems lots of fun flashing.
Hopes its a simple as Xoom or SGS.
Find htc's rather annoying with their ruu.exe update applications.
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Yay got the phone before work. No orange logo on the back.
Orange branded software 2.2.2 not to much bloat ware.
Rather happy
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Something to check also is the camera module in your defy: BAYER (red one, the newer) or SOC (green one, older). I just received my defy 2 days ago, but unfortunately got the old SOC green camera. :-( From what I gathered here, it means that leaked 2.3 roms are a no-no (camera will not function), and 720p mods will not work either. Not sure the SOC camera is intrinsically worse than the BAYER one, but it is not as well supported (not part of the new leaked rom, probably because defy "replacement" always use a BAYER).

Mines red.
But haven't checked the logcat to double check yet.
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DEFY+ MB526 Technical Specifications

Detailed Technical Specifications of Motorola DEFY+ MB526
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3069&view=1&c=motorola_defy+_mb526
Related_Page: http://developer.motorola.com/products/defyplus-mb526/
But the big question is: Can we use the rom of Defy+ After Release without green lens problem????

SWAT AXEL said:
Detailed Technical Specifications of Motorola DEFY+ MB526
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3069&view=1&c=motorola_defy+_mb526
Related_Page: http://developer.motorola.com/products/defyplus-mb526/
But the big question is: Can we use the rom of Defy+ After Release without green lens problem????
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nope, the mb526 has bayer module, its roms wont have the drivers for the soc module. we cant do anything until they unlock the bootloader...

SWAT AXEL said:
Detailed Technical Specifications of Motorola DEFY+ MB526
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3069&view=1&c=motorola_defy+_mb526
Related_Page: http://developer.motorola.com/products/defyplus-mb526/
But the big question is: Can we use the rom of Defy+ After Release without green lens problem????
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They released defy+ with android 2.3.3. (latest Leaked was 2.3.4) I think with greenbreadmod we can use all defy+ roms on green lens defys.
Android 2.3.3. can rooted direct.

walter79 said:
They released defy+ with android 2.3.3. (latest Leaked was 2.3.4) I think with greenbreadmod we can use all defy+ roms on green lens defys.
Android 2.3.3. can rooted direct.
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AFAIK, It is not possible until the bootloader is unlocked (I wonder why they want to complicate things for themselves ). Again, from what I have seen here (after a long gap of inactivity ) greenbreadmod is not fully compatible with CM7 (if that's what you are talking about, and I don't know about nightlies. The RC1, which my friend has doesn't seem to have it). So, even if defy+ roms are ported somehow, onto defy, those with green-lens have to wait till someone gets the mod up and running on CM7... or Motorola themselves upgrade defy to gingerbread (which is possibly not happening, cuz defy+'s sole marketing vantage point lies on 'gingerbread').
Hope I have answered your question...

who said anything about cm7? we were talking about using the stock gb mb526 rom on a green lens mb525.
sent from my cm7 defy...

He he.. Sorry, kinda got carried away... doesn't that depend on motorola then?

Karthik K said:
AFAIK, It is not possible until the bootloader is unlocked (I wonder why they want to complicate things for themselves ). Again, from what I have seen here (after a long gap of inactivity ) greenbreadmod is not fully compatible with CM7 (if that's what you are talking about, and I don't know about nightlies. The RC1, which my friend has doesn't seem to have it). So, even if defy+ roms are ported somehow, onto defy, those with green-lens have to wait till someone gets the mod up and running on CM7... or Motorola themselves upgrade defy to gingerbread (which is possibly not happening, cuz defy+'s sole marketing vantage point lies on 'gingerbread').
Hope I have answered your question...
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Not really. I think the average everyday Joe would see 1GHZ over 800MHZ as the selling point. GB would be secondary if at all. People I talk to are more concerned about speed than what OS it's running. IMO

bobbyphoenix said:
Not really. I think the average everyday Joe would see 1GHZ over 800MHZ as the selling point. GB would be secondary if at all. People I talk to are more concerned about speed than what OS it's running. IMO
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ummm... I said all of those by mistake. I can prove to you why 1ghz would take lesser priority over GB, but I don't think hijacking this thread is a good idea. This doesn't quite fit here does it?
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I'm only interested in defy+'s battery.it seems that the battery capacity will be about 1700mAh,I hope that is ture and our defy can also use the battery.

hpzf89 said:
I'm only interested in defy+'s battery.it seems that the battery capacity will be about 1700mAh,I hope that is ture and our defy can also use the battery.
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yes you can
just check the stronger battery for the defy and you will find 1700mah.
i think its 50 $ check it in google.

Is there any source for Defy+ having Bayer camera? I'm starting to wonder if Defy+ will be like regular Defy, meaning that some phones will come with SOC and some with Bayer if at all. Recently manufactured Defy phones come with SOC only after all.

miscz said:
Is there any source for Defy+ having Bayer camera? I'm starting to wonder if Defy+ will be like regular Defy, meaning that some phones will come with SOC and some with Bayer if at all. Recently manufactured Defy phones come with SOC only after all.
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The leaked roms are the proof: they support only Bayer...so it is highly probable that defy+ will use only bayer. The fact that all the new defy comes with SOC is maybe because moto is clearing its stock of soc modules (and 1500 mAh batteries). When it is done, no more defy will be produced...or, instead, only defy with bayer will be produced, but flashed with new gingerbread rom and sold as defy+ (which is imho the defy with a bayer cam, a new supplier for oem battery, and the use of a different colored plastic in the same injection molding lines for the frame. I am 90% sure bayer defy using a mugen equivalent battery IS the defy+. You'll know if I was right in Septembre, when first defy+ get dissassembled side by side with a defy ;-) )

I wonder if the new battery will fit the original defy.

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I wonder if the new battery will fit the original defy.
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I think they will, and if they don't, we can buy mugen, people say they are good batteries.

[Q] Is the Defy+ worth it?

I just got an MB525 with Android 2.2.2 and the SOC camera module (doh?).
I'm fairly happy aside from it freezing up once in a while and that I'm not crazy about MOTOBLUR. However, I can turn in this one for free and wait for the new one to arrive (beginning of September?), which should cost about the same. What's your take on the Defy+ (or is that Plus)? When can we expect the phone to go on sale in Northern-Europe? What would you advise me to do? Which phone offers the most?
And a couple of random n00bish questions:
1. My GF managed to push those two "buttons/knobs" behind the battery cover. A sticker on the cover said one shouldn't, does it matter? What does it do?
2. Is there a simple way to remove some of the pre-installed apps, such as Amazon MP3, YouTube, 3G Mobile Hotspot, etc? If not, is there a way to rearrange the "home menu" (containing all the app icons) to put the less relevant apps further down?
Thanks a bunch good folks!

Crezt said:
I just got an MB525 with Android 2.2.2 and the SOC camera module (doh?).
I'm fairly happy aside from it freezing up once in a while and that I'm not crazy about MOTOBLUR. However, I can turn in this one for free and wait for the new one to arrive (beginning of September?), which should cost about the same. What's your take on the Defy+ (or is that Plus)? When can we expect the phone to go on sale in Northern-Europe? What would you advise me to do? Which phone offers the most?
And a couple of random n00bish questions:
1. My GF managed to push those two "buttons/knobs" behind the battery cover. A sticker on the cover said one shouldn't, does it matter? What does it do?
2. Is there a simple way to remove some of the pre-installed apps, such as Amazon MP3, YouTube, 3G Mobile Hotspot, etc? If not, is there a way to rearrange the "home menu" (containing all the app icons) to put the less relevant apps further down?
Thanks a bunch good folks!
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defy+ is basically an overclocked, red lensed defy with a slightly better battery.
differences:
- defy+ is running on 1GHz by default, but you can easily overclock the defy
- defy+ has 1700mAh battery, but you can buy that for defy too
- defy+ has bayer module/red lens, which enables 720p recording
decide whether you need these things or not. my advice is to install cm7 on it, and dont even think about using the stock rom. (cm7 is lightyears ahead of any stock rom, and it runs the same on defy and defy+)
1. which buttons are you talking about?
2. you have to root your phone to remove preinstalled apps i think.
and i really recommend you to use "launcherpro", which is (one of) the best launchers out there. way faster than stock, gives you the option to hide apps from the appdrawer, and many other things. try it!

My girl just got an insurance replacement it came with a red lens?
Sent from my Defy. Using XDA App.

if it cost the same, then get the Defy+
But where i live, Defy+, apart from it being not released yet, is much more expensive (or rather Original Defy is offered at a low discount), so i opted to go for the Defy, with some tweaks, it will be the same as Defy+ performance wise...

These two knobs (under the lens/flash, with an arrow between them):
w w w . l a p t o pm a g . co m / r e v ie w / n e w g a l l e r y .aspx?id=42981#top (link broken apart on purpose)
A better battery and 720p video sounds nice!
By the way, how is it recommended to charge the battery the first times?

The Defy+ doesnt record 720p by default i dont think.

I'm very happy about my defy, but if i were to buy a new device now, it doesn't be a defy+. There are a lot of other devices with a better cost/benefit.

r u guys sure that defy+ 1700mAh battery will fit into the defy?

it is the same model number so it has to really or it would cause many problems for everyone from the retailers to the users.

thiagobolivar said:
I'm very happy about my defy, but if i were to buy a new device now, it doesn't be a defy+. There are a lot of other devices with a better cost/benefit.
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if i were about to buy a new device right now, it would be the defy (not the defy+), cuz its still one of the best phones on the market right now! (and it definitely has the best value/price)
sent from my cm7 defy...

kbxdauser2011 said:
r u guys sure that defy+ 1700mAh battery will fit into the defy?
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bump....does any1 have any idea here?

kbxdauser2011 said:
bump....does any1 have any idea here?
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The same question had crossed my mind! Just got the defy and was thinking to retrofit the defy+ battery when available in my region.
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i dont think we can say for sure until it actually comes out... expected in september i think??

i saw a video of a defy+ using the same bf5x battery as ours. the difference is, that battery is li-ion polymer, thats why it has a bigger capacity. so theoretically the defy will have no problem running on those batteries.
sent from my cm7 defy...

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bump....does any1 have any idea here?
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I'm sure its ok for the Defy too.
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The problems of freezing up/lagging are resolved and then some by CM7. I wonder perhaps if defy isn't a better choice because we don't yet know how CM7 will go on the defy+ - or if it even can.

it will be so good if the battery fits i ll buy one !!

If it opens up for a reasonable price Defy+ is not a bad update for old Defy users simply looking for a replacement , Nevertheless is still a ripoff !!

Just knew it'd be 234euro on UK market. Just 1 question...Can Defy's CyanogenMOD be installed on Defy+?

saiftheboss7 said:
Can Defy's CyanogenMOD be installed on Defy+?
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Defy+ will be shipped with 2.3 (godknowswhat build) preinstalled so until they find a way to root and downgrade to Nordic froyo, I guess we'll have to wait.
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