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[Q] Planning to buy this phone

Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?

1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month

Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.

And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!

You mean battery life not good?

Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.

yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?

They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.

Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).

you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now

lanfearxt said:
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!

Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.

time to root and install some custom ROMS!!

Step666 said:
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..

One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon

I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.

rusty4ever said:
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain

New defy

Hello all.
My free defy turns up tomorrow.
Hope cm7 is at the same level as it is with the SGS.
I'm sure you will all be seeing me lurking around the forums.
Sent from my phone

@iammodo I don't know at which level in CM7 for SGS, but for Defy it's pretty close to perfection (except few minor bugs). You can start by reading the development or the faq thread.

yeah..CM7 final is on the way, just wait for few bugs fixed.

From what i hear, cm7 on defy is better than on many other devices, including some officially supported ones.

Might give stock a chance.
samsung really smegged up on stock rom.
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If you want to give stock a chance, you should at least try the stock 2.3.4 (leaked of course)

boonhoong said:
If you want to give stock a chance, you should at least try the stock 2.3.4 (leaked of course)
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Yes, 2.3.4 leaked is awesome!
Despite the ultra-bright softkeys ( and data disabled icon which is fixed in the status bar ), it's worth giving a try .
I've done some mess and i had to downgrade to froyo, and so i couldn't avoid installing CM7 RC1 which is really great.
And, of course, I suggest anyone installing CM7 ( on Defy )!

Luckly I have my SGS and Xoom to use while getting my defy how I like it.
Seems lots of fun flashing.
Hopes its a simple as Xoom or SGS.
Find htc's rather annoying with their ruu.exe update applications.
Sent from my Tablet

Yay got the phone before work. No orange logo on the back.
Orange branded software 2.2.2 not to much bloat ware.
Rather happy
Sent from my MB525

Something to check also is the camera module in your defy: BAYER (red one, the newer) or SOC (green one, older). I just received my defy 2 days ago, but unfortunately got the old SOC green camera. :-( From what I gathered here, it means that leaked 2.3 roms are a no-no (camera will not function), and 720p mods will not work either. Not sure the SOC camera is intrinsically worse than the BAYER one, but it is not as well supported (not part of the new leaked rom, probably because defy "replacement" always use a BAYER).

Mines red.
But haven't checked the logcat to double check yet.
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DEFY+ MB526 Technical Specifications

Detailed Technical Specifications of Motorola DEFY+ MB526
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3069&view=1&c=motorola_defy+_mb526
Related_Page: http://developer.motorola.com/products/defyplus-mb526/
But the big question is: Can we use the rom of Defy+ After Release without green lens problem????

SWAT AXEL said:
Detailed Technical Specifications of Motorola DEFY+ MB526
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3069&view=1&c=motorola_defy+_mb526
Related_Page: http://developer.motorola.com/products/defyplus-mb526/
But the big question is: Can we use the rom of Defy+ After Release without green lens problem????
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nope, the mb526 has bayer module, its roms wont have the drivers for the soc module. we cant do anything until they unlock the bootloader...

SWAT AXEL said:
Detailed Technical Specifications of Motorola DEFY+ MB526
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3069&view=1&c=motorola_defy+_mb526
Related_Page: http://developer.motorola.com/products/defyplus-mb526/
But the big question is: Can we use the rom of Defy+ After Release without green lens problem????
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They released defy+ with android 2.3.3. (latest Leaked was 2.3.4) I think with greenbreadmod we can use all defy+ roms on green lens defys.
Android 2.3.3. can rooted direct.

walter79 said:
They released defy+ with android 2.3.3. (latest Leaked was 2.3.4) I think with greenbreadmod we can use all defy+ roms on green lens defys.
Android 2.3.3. can rooted direct.
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AFAIK, It is not possible until the bootloader is unlocked (I wonder why they want to complicate things for themselves ). Again, from what I have seen here (after a long gap of inactivity ) greenbreadmod is not fully compatible with CM7 (if that's what you are talking about, and I don't know about nightlies. The RC1, which my friend has doesn't seem to have it). So, even if defy+ roms are ported somehow, onto defy, those with green-lens have to wait till someone gets the mod up and running on CM7... or Motorola themselves upgrade defy to gingerbread (which is possibly not happening, cuz defy+'s sole marketing vantage point lies on 'gingerbread').
Hope I have answered your question...

who said anything about cm7? we were talking about using the stock gb mb526 rom on a green lens mb525.
sent from my cm7 defy...

He he.. Sorry, kinda got carried away... doesn't that depend on motorola then?

Karthik K said:
AFAIK, It is not possible until the bootloader is unlocked (I wonder why they want to complicate things for themselves ). Again, from what I have seen here (after a long gap of inactivity ) greenbreadmod is not fully compatible with CM7 (if that's what you are talking about, and I don't know about nightlies. The RC1, which my friend has doesn't seem to have it). So, even if defy+ roms are ported somehow, onto defy, those with green-lens have to wait till someone gets the mod up and running on CM7... or Motorola themselves upgrade defy to gingerbread (which is possibly not happening, cuz defy+'s sole marketing vantage point lies on 'gingerbread').
Hope I have answered your question...
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Not really. I think the average everyday Joe would see 1GHZ over 800MHZ as the selling point. GB would be secondary if at all. People I talk to are more concerned about speed than what OS it's running. IMO

bobbyphoenix said:
Not really. I think the average everyday Joe would see 1GHZ over 800MHZ as the selling point. GB would be secondary if at all. People I talk to are more concerned about speed than what OS it's running. IMO
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ummm... I said all of those by mistake. I can prove to you why 1ghz would take lesser priority over GB, but I don't think hijacking this thread is a good idea. This doesn't quite fit here does it?
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I'm only interested in defy+'s battery.it seems that the battery capacity will be about 1700mAh,I hope that is ture and our defy can also use the battery.

hpzf89 said:
I'm only interested in defy+'s battery.it seems that the battery capacity will be about 1700mAh,I hope that is ture and our defy can also use the battery.
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yes you can
just check the stronger battery for the defy and you will find 1700mah.
i think its 50 $ check it in google.

Is there any source for Defy+ having Bayer camera? I'm starting to wonder if Defy+ will be like regular Defy, meaning that some phones will come with SOC and some with Bayer if at all. Recently manufactured Defy phones come with SOC only after all.

miscz said:
Is there any source for Defy+ having Bayer camera? I'm starting to wonder if Defy+ will be like regular Defy, meaning that some phones will come with SOC and some with Bayer if at all. Recently manufactured Defy phones come with SOC only after all.
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The leaked roms are the proof: they support only Bayer...so it is highly probable that defy+ will use only bayer. The fact that all the new defy comes with SOC is maybe because moto is clearing its stock of soc modules (and 1500 mAh batteries). When it is done, no more defy will be produced...or, instead, only defy with bayer will be produced, but flashed with new gingerbread rom and sold as defy+ (which is imho the defy with a bayer cam, a new supplier for oem battery, and the use of a different colored plastic in the same injection molding lines for the frame. I am 90% sure bayer defy using a mugen equivalent battery IS the defy+. You'll know if I was right in Septembre, when first defy+ get dissassembled side by side with a defy ;-) )

I wonder if the new battery will fit the original defy.

ryan8r said:
I wonder if the new battery will fit the original defy.
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I think they will, and if they don't, we can buy mugen, people say they are good batteries.

Thinking to get defy+

hi guys, i currently own an ideos x5 and would like to buy a new defy+ but i have a major question.
Is there an overclocked kernel to flash without losing the stock rom or flashing a custom rom?
and what is the latest kernel for defy+, is it based on .35 or .32?

Invicta said:
hi guys, i currently own an ideos x5 and would like to buy a new defy+ but i have a major question.
Is there an overclocked kernel to flash without losing the stock rom or flashing a custom rom?
and what is the latest kernel for defy+, is it based on .35 or .32?
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I shouldnt buy it... These are my reasons:
Motorola updates (I think we will not see official ICS in DEFY+)
Locked Bootloader = No "perfect" or "easy" ICS CyanogenMod 9
Motorola lied about it ( Its a defy with "stock" clock processor values.. )
It only can use signed kernels (by motorola --> bootloader locked)
About your questions... No.. overclocked kernel doesnt exists... Only motorola's kernel overclocked from bootmenu or setvsel. Kernel is .32 i think...
In my opinion... You should look for a samsung or Htc phone...

dissapointing...

There is a petition for unlocking the moto bootloaders.
Sign it and spread the word.
Still, if nothing happens, maybe get a sony xperia active. It has ip67 and hd recording and i think its a good alternative if you look for a strong smartphone
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Luckily the CyanogenMod developers are very strong so we will get ICS unofficially. But if you don't need the IP67 certified case I would buy a Nexus phone (the Nexus S isn't that expensive any more) or a Sony (Ericsson). The XPeria Neo or Ray are at the same price level than the Defy but will get ICS in the next months. And because Sony (Ericsson) supports CyanogenMod all devices got CyanogenMod 7.

I would get something with 4" screen and unlocked bootloader. Other then that its just not worthed....
LG 2x come to my mind right now... or something similar.. for a long term...

So let me get this straight, the defy+ cannot be rooted at all??? I had a defy and I loved it tbh. I liked the small size and it did everything I wanted it to do. The only thing I didnt like was motoblur. I got rid of this by rooting it. I WAS contemplating going in for a defy+ but Im starting toi have 2nd thoughts

TudorBlue said:
So let me get this straight, the defy+ cannot be rooted at all??? I had a defy and I loved it tbh. I liked the small size and it did everything I wanted it to do. The only thing I didnt like was motoblur. I got rid of this by rooting it. I WAS contemplating going in for a defy+ but Im starting toi have 2nd thoughts
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Can be rooted but no custom kernel n other goodness..
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Man if u like defy take it...
Bootloader locked but there are groups like Cyanogen, Miui and peoples like Wajk, quarx, epsylon3... They are doing great work.
Simple argument i allready have ics and i love my defy now

"love your girl, take a defy" or maybe opposite
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TudorBlue said:
So let me get this straight, the defy+ cannot be rooted at all??? I had a defy and I loved it tbh. I liked the small size and it did everything I wanted it to do. The only thing I didnt like was motoblur. I got rid of this by rooting it. I WAS contemplating going in for a defy+ but Im starting toi have 2nd thoughts
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Mind you, it is still an excellent phone. Can be overclocked to 1.3GHz even without an unlocked bootloader and custom kernels. Also it is a very safe phone to play around with, physically cos of its relative ruggedness, and software wise because the locked bootloader means chances of bricking by doing something related to custom ROMs are nil.

I just have bought a Defy... should I have waited for the Defy+? Or Defy+ is not as good as de Vanilla one?

I would not buy another motorola defy by the locked bootloader, my next phone will have unlocked bootloader
Motorola sucks

darkvier said:
I would not buy another motorola defy by the locked bootloader, my next phone will have unlocked bootloader
Motorola sucks
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Me too... No bootloader = No more sales!

DEFY+ is old...... Why not try dual core .....like I9100?

Defy+ Update
Defy+ is great phone with improved motoblur
& here is one more reason to look forward to - ICS update for Defy+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378691

I would have bought it if I am at your place ..... its got official cm7 miui etc and have great dev support thumbs up .....
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Defy+ is great!
I'm also really satisfied with my Defy+. Rooted, MS2Ginger 2.1 with all patches (except the ones which have something to do with Blur), V6 Supercharger, now it is quite fast, good for playing around (testing different ROMs, nearly unbrickable) and really sturdy (even more with Otter Box Commuter Case). The size is also perfect.
May not be state-of-the-art hardware but has the potential to be a good phone even alongside the next generations of smartphones.

Custom ROMs for Defy+ (MB526)

Hi all!
I've started this thread to share experience about the custom ROMs made exclusively for the Defy+, because I haven't seen such a collection topic here before. There's no Defy+ section here yet, and it's sometimes hard to find out if a Defy ROM works on MB526 also. So let's start off with the ROMs I've tried so far:
1. MIUI Pikachu Edition - this ROM has bricked my phone with bootloader error, but I've been able to bring it back to life by flashing this SBF with RSD Lite, which proved as a good base for Defy+ custom ROMs.
2. Epsylon's CM7.2, which had to be modded with camera and battery fix. It has some annoying bugs, and the latest version here is still from 27th January. Better avoid using it.
3. CM7 WhiteRabbit Edition 1.3 - it's just upgraded to 1.4, but the 1.3 I tried was based on the same 27th January build, so same annoying bugs. Looking good and fast as lightning on the other hand. UPDATE: I've asked TweetyPeety in the forum to use the latest Quarx2k CM builds instead of Epsylon's, and he said he would look into it.
4. CM9 by Quarx, build from 18th March. Awesome look, but the GUI is very slow, I suppose the hardware acceleration is not fully implemented yet. The overall operating of this ROM is quite fast though, the Gallery is exceptionally fast, if I overlook the graphical lags. Surprising, but I haven't experienced any stability problems, no FCs, no reboots, everything worked, this one looks super-stable. Only a few features are missing. Keep up the good work, Quarx.
5. CM7.2 by Quarx, build 20120323. I'm using it now, no problems so far. The GUI is a bit less fluid compared to WhiteRabbit. UPDATE: New 20120328 build has arrived!
6. NEW! EuroSkank KANGs for Defy+. No bugs encountered so far, the GUI is a little bit smoother than on Quarx2k's build, but maybe it's just a placebo effect.
7. Nothing But Speed! I'm using it right now, and it's extraordinary. New ROM based on MS2Ginger, tweaked by me, check it out here!
Note: I had to disable CPU management in the 2ndInit bootmenu for Quarx ROMs, otherwise it displays 0MHz as maximum frequency in CM performance settings, cannot be changed, and the CPU does not reach 1GHz.
WARNING! This thread is not for beginners. If you are not familiar with flashing SBF files, installing 2ndInit, installing zipped updates from recovery, doing nandroid backups etc, read this beginner's guide first!

great thread! finally something 526-specific
I've just tryed the Epsilon cm72, I experienced the same as you

Battery problems with cm72
Brilliant thread. The defy plus is replacing the defy everywhere and there should be more dedicated threads like this.
After reading the thread I tried out Quarx's CM7.2 build 20120323 but the battery had a question mark on it and I could not find a solution.
Did anyone else have this issue??

Epsylon's mod needs to be fixed flashing these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21834834&postcount=54
Maybe they work also for Quarx's..

So Good
the ICS quarkx last ICS build for Defy+ looks amazing, i'm using it right now, camera have been fized and everything seems to work like an oficial motorola update

Tried that fix
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Epsylon's mod needs to be fixed flashing these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21834834&postcount=54
Maybe they work also for Quarx's..
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I have already applied both the fixes as instructed but there was no difference.

shrek8421 said:
Brilliant thread. The defy plus is replacing the defy everywhere and there should be more dedicated threads like this.
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The Defy+ is just a Defy with the Bayer (red lens) camera (which some Defys have anyway), a larger capacity battery and overclocked to 1GHz (which you can easily do on a rooted Defy). It's exactly the same hardware platform as the red lens Defy and the same ROMs will work on it as on the red lens Defy. There really isn't much point in having separate Defy and Defy+ threads IMO, it would just clutter up the forums and cause confusion.

ejstubbs said:
The Defy+ is just a Defy with the Bayer (red lens) camera (which some Defys have anyway), a larger capacity battery and overclocked to 1GHz (which you can easily do on a rooted Defy). It's exactly the same hardware platform as the red lens Defy and the same ROMs will work on it as on the red lens Defy. There really isn't much point in having separate Defy and Defy+ threads IMO, it would just clutter up the forums and cause confusion.
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I don't think so.. Defy+ seems to have some specific issues: problems on camera, battery, new sbf.. If not, why the modders are shipping specific builds for this device?

ejstubbs said:
The Defy+ is just a Defy with the Bayer (red lens) camera (which some Defys have anyway), a larger capacity battery and overclocked to 1GHz (which you can easily do on a rooted Defy). It's exactly the same hardware platform as the red lens Defy and the same ROMs will work on it as on the red lens Defy. There really isn't much point in having separate Defy and Defy+ threads IMO, it would just clutter up the forums and cause confusion.
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But the confusion is already there
dvdOpulento said:
I don't think so.. Defy+ seems to have some specific issues: problems on camera, battery, new sbf.. If not, why the modders are shipping specific builds for this device?
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He is right, you know. DEFY+ is an overclocked bayer camera DEFY with a larger battery.
*Camera and battery fixes are needed on Epsylon's builds, because he has a SOC DEFY. Quarx's has had a DEFY+ for a short while now, but his builds are already completely adjusted to it (both camera and battery are working completely correctly)
Everybody with an MB526! I've started an all-in-one guide thread for it, since the confusion is obviously very present... Please, ask questions that you have and things you think should be in the guide in private messages! So we don't mess up the thread too quickly.
It's here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566861
@Goose-T Mate, please don't be offended by this!

shrek8421 said:
Brilliant thread. The defy plus is replacing the defy everywhere and there should be more dedicated threads like this.
After reading the thread I tried out Quarx's CM7.2 build 20120323 but the battery had a question mark on it and I could not find a solution.
Did anyone else have this issue??
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The kernel of your phone may not be fully compatible with CyanogenMod. What is your phone's build and kernel version? You can find it in Settings/About phone.

ejstubbs said:
The Defy+ is just a Defy with the Bayer (red lens) camera (which some Defys have anyway), a larger capacity battery and overclocked to 1GHz (which you can easily do on a rooted Defy). It's exactly the same hardware platform as the red lens Defy and the same ROMs will work on it as on the red lens Defy. There really isn't much point in having separate Defy and Defy+ threads IMO, it would just clutter up the forums and cause confusion.
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Unfortunately most of the custom ROMs for Defy are made to be compatible with Froyo kernel, which cannot be flashed to Defy+, as far as I know. That's the biggest separation line in my opinion.

Goose-T said:
Unfortunately most of the custom ROMs for Defy are made to be compatible with Froyo kernel, which cannot be flashed to Defy+, as far as I know. That's the biggest separation line in my opinion.
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Froyo can be flashed on DEFY+ and it's as simple as flashing 2.3.6 that you like to tell people to do so much
Guys, don't rush into things. Read, then read more, then ask about what you are unsure about, then read more, then triple check, and then maybe you're set to try modding. DEFY and DEFY+ are almost impossible to brick completely, but that doesn't make the experience of your phone being stuck at Motorola logo easier at all. Trust me

niksy+ said:
Froyo can be flashed on DEFY+ and it's as simple as flashing 2.3.6 that you like to tell people to do so much
Guys, don't rush into things. Read, then read more, then ask about what you are unsure about, then read more, then triple check, and then maybe you're set to try modding. DEFY and DEFY+ are almost impossible to brick completely, but that doesn't make the experience of your phone being stuck at Motorola logo easier at all. Trust me
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OK, I just don't want to share experience I don't have. Instead of that I tell here what's working for me.

Phone model
Goose-T said:
The kernel of your phone may not be fully compatible with CyanogenMod. What is your phone's build and kernel version? You can find it in Settings/About phone.
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System: 45.0.1321.MB526.AsiaRetail.en03
Kernel: gbdd614e
Buil: 4.5.1.134_DFP-1321

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System: 45.0.1321.MB526.AsiaRetail.en03
Kernel: gbdd614e
Buil: 4.5.1.134_DFP-1321
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Strange, this build should be OK for CM7.2. However I've heard somewhere that Motorola is now shipping Defy+ with a new battery, and its capacity is now only 1650mAh instead of 1700mAh. My phone has the 1700mAh battery. Check this video out, at 1:55 there's both 1650mAh and 1700mAh marking on the battery. Can you check your battery's specs? It must be on the back side of it.

1700/1650 mAh
Goose-T said:
Strange, this build should be OK for CM7.2. However I've heard somewhere that Motorola is now shipping Defy+ with a new battery, and its capacity is now only 1650mAh instead of 1700mAh. My phone has the 1700mAh battery. Check out, at 1:55 there's both 1650mAh and 1700mAh marking on the battery. Can you check your battery's specs? It must be on the back side of it.
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Yes. My battery is exactly that one. Both 1650 and 1700 on the battery. Damn. I hope I can find a solution. The question mark on the battery still remains. Though when connected to a charger the green LED glows. But the "?" on the battery icon remains.

Hi Goose-T,
what can be seen on the battery in that video, and also on the HF5X in my DEFY+ is the minimum and typical milli-amp hour ratings of the battery.
It's listed as 1650 mAh min, 1700 mAh typ.
So, it's a 1700 mAh battery. Motorola (or the chinese manufacturer of the battery) is just being precise about the absolute worst performance you'll get from it, is telling you what you should expect to get from it, and ofcourse higher capacities are not defined but I supposed could be possible, should you be so lucky.
-Z

next WhiteRabbit PLUS will be based on the latest QUARX, didn't know his source and Jordan is out of date.

Zn0rt said:
Hi Goose-T,
what can be seen on the battery in that video, and also on the HF5X in my DEFY+ is the minimum and typical milli-amp hour ratings of the battery.
It's listed as 1650 mAh min, 1700 mAh typ.
So, it's a 1700 mAh battery. Motorola (or the chinese manufacturer of the battery) is just being precise about the absolute worst performance you'll get from it, is telling you what you should expect to get from it, and ofcourse higher capacities are not defined but I supposed could be possible, should you be so lucky.
-Z
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Yes, I checked my battery yesterday, and saw the same marking on mine. Now I'm completely clueless. Anyway, the attached battd file may help, this worked for me on Epsylon's build. It should be copied into the CM updater ZIP file before flashing with Total Commander to the \system\bin folder overwriting the old battd file.
TweetyPeety said:
next WhiteRabbit PLUS will be based on the latest QUARX, didn't know his source and Jordan is out of date.
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Aw yeah! I have a feeling that the best ROM is coming for the Defy+!

new quarx nightly