I'm asking this because i heard on other forums and also saw it on youtube that some people who got 2.2 update on defy (o2 germany i believe), some of them have 1ghz cpu on stock...so if someone can confirm this if o2 2.2 update actualyl increases the clock speed to 1ghz?
no reply? does anyone even know anything about it?
Feel free to read the Android dev forum. Instructions on there to flash your phone and up your clockspeed, at your own risk! People already running at 1.2 ghz.
2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
kastraverde said:
I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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I join the question...
i'm using one of the leaked versions and it's working pretty well ...
Actually many reported the leaked Chinese Froyo was default to 1ghz.
Le_Poilu said:
2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
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Not as long as the bootloader remains locked. One of several things needs to happen: Moto releases a Gingerbread for Defy (or it's leaked), the bootloader is cracked, or a new bootloader that is not locked is released.
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I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy
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That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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Google have stated that Honeycomb is for tablets, not phones.
Then again, Froyo supposedly isn't for tablets but that hasn't stopped companies releasing ones running it, so who knows.
Certainly the proper dual-core utilisation that Honeycomb will bring would be useful for the likes of the Optimus 2X or the Atrix, so there'd be some motivation for manufacturers to use it.
But, at the same time, I have no doubt that Google will release a handset-oriented version of Android that will add features like that.
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Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
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That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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You just repeated what i said by proving me wrong lol. Read what i actually wrote.
I said that performance wise, yes defy can handle 2.3 BUT when it's taking ages just to release 2.2, what do you guess about 2.3 comming to defy and we actually don't know if they plan to do that or not. That is motorola's choice
I understand that you said it can handle it but linking to an article about LG is a waste of time, it has nothing to do with the Defy in the slightest.
All you're doing is confusing matters.
Related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxToOTjmviw&feature=player_embedded
YES COME ON!!!!
So all they did is make it look better cause all I see is the phone apps green the browsers blue and the status bar is black
Rocking The EVO and The HERO
ok, i watched that without audio. looks no diff than 2.2 and showing off voice controls which we already have ti a point?
not impressed.
Video is old(1 week) and not supposed to show off gingerbread. It is showing the features of new google voice search. They just accidentally used a GB phone. And no we will probably not get many ui changes before 3.0.
I think that Google said the UI changes would come with Android 3.0,they never said Gingerbread.It's just that at that point we thought that Gingerbread was actually 3.0 and not 2.3.
tolis626 said:
I think that Google said the UI changes would come with Android 3.0,they never said Gingerbread.It's just that at that point we thought that Gingerbread was actually 3.0 and not 2.3.
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that's what I assumed too
Lothaen said:
that's what I assumed too
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yep the ui changes are coming in android 3.0, this will also be called gingerbread, the reson they are both called gingerbread is, google is splitting android into two branches, the 2.X branch for mid to low end smatphones and the 3.X branch for high end smartphones and tablets
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yep the ui changes are coming in android 3.0, this will also be called gingerbread, the reson they are both called gingerbread is, google is splitting android into two branches, the 2.X branch for mid to low end smatphones and the 3.X branch for high end smartphones and tablets
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And our Desire is considered as what device? Low/Mid end or High end?
Probably classed as a highend smart phone.
As far as i'm aware, the Desire won't be supported when it comes to GB. I'm guessing the guys here will figure it all out but it won't be official.
what matters is that we get it. and lets be fair here, the roms guys on this forum give us are better then the officials in many ways. - aesthetics, battery life, performance, options/freedom
i have a desire and am running a desire hd rom that runs very well. vanilla gingy will be <yawn> i think. the dudes in the dev forum will make it into something great, i don't doubt that
Hi All,
Sorry i have a slightly noobish question.
is the moto defy hardware capable of running android 2.3 gingerbread ?
regards
Ani
I have an old HTC Hero that has lower hardware than Defy and it handles GB just fine. Custom made GB that is, as the last update HTC did for Hero was Eclair(2.1). The problem with Defy is the bootloader if Motorola won't upgrade Defy to GB.
Ofcourse it's capable of running 2.3 but it's going to take about a year from now lol because there are still 4-5 months before 2.2 comes out...and btw Optimus one is getting 2.3 (slower then defy) so ofcourse defy can get 2.3
Gingerbread 2.3
Defy is fully capable of running GB. You can easily overclock it upto 1.2 ghz. Has plenty of RAM and space like other high end smartpohones.
And so far the leaked version of Froyo 3.4.2 is fairly snappy, fast and pleasure to use. The biggest problem is that motorola won't make any GB ROM for Defy, so we have to wait for some moded ROMs.
Defy has the potential to 2.3, yes ... but this will probably take us a time.
EDIT: Yes, Motorola is "very close" in this area
Sorry for my english...
The HTC Dream is capable of running Gingerbread and it's not crawling, nuff said.
Any maker who tells you that its phones aren't capable is probably not because of the hardware.
Is there any chance that we could get official 2.3 gingerbread ? I would not like to use any custom ROM's coz' Im bit newbie with android....
^ no Motorola releases new phone and Defy will not get official 2.3
If LG P500 can handle GB, Why not DEFY and Spec wise Defy is far better than P500
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We may not get it officially but the leaked Gingerbread firmwares for The Defy+ work perfectly on the original defy(red lens). I'm currently on it as the matter of fact.
ryan8r said:
We may not get it officially but the leaked Gingerbread firmwares for The Defy+ work perfectly on the original defy(red lens). I'm currently on it as the matter of fact.
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Thank you for that! I may try it
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I use to have an old HTC TyTn II (aka HTC Kaiser) which has 400mhz and 256 mb RAM (i think) running windows mobile 6.1 officially... it was possible to install CM7 (Android 2.3) ROM on it and it ran quite OK!!! Not much of a lag, i used it as my day to day ROM for some months after finally getting a new phone.
So i guess you can say that the Defy DEFINITELY has the hardware for 2.3 maybe even honeycomb and ice cream sandwich (if a port was ever possible)
ryan8r said:
We may not get it officially but the leaked Gingerbread firmwares for The Defy+ work perfectly on the original defy(red lens). I'm currently on it as the matter of fact.
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ehhem... red lens ?
I just got my first android phone.....
Motodefyuser said:
ehhem... red lens ?
I just got my first android phone.....
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Yep To know more check out.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116694
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if you happen to have the green lense, it works great as well. i am on green lense with the leaked 134 gb supposedly for mb526. easiest way to know is to flash the leaked gb, and if camera doesnt work then you are on green lense. if you are, use the greenbread patch to enable camera (you will lose the live wallpaper function). the best gb so far for me is the leaked 134, very stable with magnificent battery life.
Motorola DEFY has a 1GHz TI 3630 chipset on it. but it will be functional if u install a 2.3 version. i have tried it, it works. because TI(Texas Instruments) doesn't produce a 800MHz 3610 chipset. that chipset doesn't even exist. the DEFY with the stock rom uses a downgraded 1GHz 3630 chipset. DEFY is very powerful... I don't even think of buying a DEFY+
The only problem to defy was the Gingerbread rom itself. But now we have some good gb roms that works very nicelly!
To all 2.2 android rom users: I'd like to know which are the main differences between these two releases (considering an upgrade).
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Note that certain individual features may not be supported at maker's discretion.
Thanks for the link, already saw it, but I'd like to ear direct feedback from users .
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I don't know but differences between official update with motoblur is that:
Windows vista 64 bit is android 2.1
Windows 7 64 bit is android 2.2
Hope you understand this !
Real differences I have found is speed, market downloads you can update all, flash full version for browsing, thats about it really.
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I don't know but differences between official update with motoblur is that:
Windows vista 64 bit is android 2.1
Windows 7 64 bit is android 2.2
Hope you understand this !
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Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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I had to upgrade by accident.
It's been 48 hours...
Definitely a better experience than Eclair.
You get Profiles (Like HTC Scenes) now, Flash, A2SD, Snappier performance, and probably a whole lot of other things I haven't had time to notice yet...
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Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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adding to what was previously said:
New Gmail app
Push to phone API (chrome to phone, install from web market, etc)
Different memory/task managment
... + some little improvment overall the system.
better, yes, but worths the trouble to get it on your defy? only you can answer that.
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Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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Totally mate, it is hell fast and 2.3 is even faster plus you get other things with 2.2 such as full flash support, better performace and speed of course. You can feel it wen playing games and when the benchmark scores double the benchmakrs when running 2.1
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better, yes, but worths the trouble to get it on your defy? only you can answer that.
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That's the point. Probably I'll wait for Motorola official update, since I use this phone for work and I don't want to mess it up. Anyway glad to know newer versions are faster .
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Just to add my thoughts...
The biggest difference I have seen between 2.1 and 2.2 is a reduction in battery life.
On 2.1, both the original 2.21 that my handset came with and the 2.34 Blur-lite ROM I flashed, I could easily get 2 days of what I consider 'normal' usage between charges, 3 days if I really didn't use it much.
With 2.2, I've only seen a day or so of 'normal' use before needing to charge and that's having used Higgsy's modified build on top of the Chinese Froyo sbf and the new Orange Blur-lite ROM too.
Beyond that, the only noticeable difference IMO is the addition of flash in the browser.
So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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psixda said:
That's the point. Probably I'll wait for Motorola official update, since I use this phone for work and I don't want to mess it up. Anyway glad to know newer versions are faster .
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I didn't notice that the battery is running out faster on 2.2, I think it can last 2-day based on the remaining capacity at night (I charge every night) on normal usage.
But if you're using this for work I seriously discourage you to mess it up. Although if you flash those .sbf I suppose it's pretty simple but still... You understand.
There are some apps that doesn't support pre-2.2, BTW.
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So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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What exactly are you looking for then?
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What exactly are you looking for then?
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Guys, stop flashing custom roms and confusing other people, custom rom does have 2.2 but it's custom and it prolly overclocks the cpu at high voltage which can be a reason for you to have battery drainage.
We yet can't say anything about 2.2 update because we haven't recieved it officially just yet. What i said in my previous posts is by looking at other phones such as Samsung Galaxy S (quite similar to defy cpu wise) and then when i looked at benchmakrs (performace) of it running on 2.1 and 2.2, there was a great difference and in 2.2 it performed quite well.
So don't consider custom roms as real updates, they are totally modified with tons of changes.
Right now, we don't even know if the stock speed of official update for defy is 1GHZ or 800MHZ...and if it's 1GHZ then i believe the battery will run out faster but we just can't say anything unless we get the official update OR a user who already had the official motorola update on defy (o2 germany users) can actually tell us the difference between 2.1 and 2.2
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So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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With regards to performance, my Defy performed well enough under 2.1 that I haven't noticed any difference.
That's not to say that Froyo hasn't necessarily improved matters, just that I haven't seen any practical difference so far - benchmarks are all well and good but they don't make any difference to how a phone works on a day-to-day basis.
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Guys, stop flashing custom roms and confusing other people, custom rom does have 2.2 but it's custom and it prolly overclocks the cpu at high voltage which can be a reason for you to have battery drainage.
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You're guessing and you're wrong.
Firstly, when I did flash a custom ROM, true enough it came with the means to allow you to overclock the CPU but it wasn't automatically activated, you still had to do that yourself.
Secondly, as I said before, I've tried more than one Froyo ROM and the on I'm using now is not a custom ROM but the battery life is still just as poor.
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With regards to performance, my Defy performed well enough under 2.1 that I haven't noticed any difference.
That's not to say that Froyo hasn't necessarily improved matters, just that I haven't seen any practical difference so far - benchmarks are all well and good but they don't make any difference to how a phone works on a day-to-day basis.
You're guessing and you're wrong.
Firstly, when I did flash a custom ROM, true enough it came with the means to allow you to overclock the CPU but it wasn't automatically activated, you still had to do that yourself.
Secondly, as I said before, I've tried more than one Froyo ROM and the on I'm using now is not a custom ROM but the battery life is still just as poor.
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Maybe your cpu is running on different voltage? because OS has got nothing to do with battery life tbh lol
you can have millions of programs running in the background because of your custom rom?
Maybe I spoke too soon...
I don't know what's changed but I'm ~32 houes since charging my handset and have (according to DefyBatt) 55% of my battery left.
The battery's not new, so I don't get why it would need to bed in on the new ROM, yet that seems to be the key
For me, the biggest difference is the new apps that require 2.2 - primarily Chrome To Phone, which I love.
Other than that, 2.2 is faster than stock 2.1, but if you had JIT enabled on 2.1, then the difference isn't huge.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life.
Basically, it's a minor performance boost, and the ability to use some programs which I couldn't with 2.1.
Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?
1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month
Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.
And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!
You mean battery life not good?
Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.
yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!
Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.
time to root and install some custom ROMS!!
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They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..
One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon
I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.
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I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain
hi guys, i currently own an ideos x5 and would like to buy a new defy+ but i have a major question.
Is there an overclocked kernel to flash without losing the stock rom or flashing a custom rom?
and what is the latest kernel for defy+, is it based on .35 or .32?
Invicta said:
hi guys, i currently own an ideos x5 and would like to buy a new defy+ but i have a major question.
Is there an overclocked kernel to flash without losing the stock rom or flashing a custom rom?
and what is the latest kernel for defy+, is it based on .35 or .32?
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I shouldnt buy it... These are my reasons:
Motorola updates (I think we will not see official ICS in DEFY+)
Locked Bootloader = No "perfect" or "easy" ICS CyanogenMod 9
Motorola lied about it ( Its a defy with "stock" clock processor values.. )
It only can use signed kernels (by motorola --> bootloader locked)
About your questions... No.. overclocked kernel doesnt exists... Only motorola's kernel overclocked from bootmenu or setvsel. Kernel is .32 i think...
In my opinion... You should look for a samsung or Htc phone...
dissapointing...
There is a petition for unlocking the moto bootloaders.
Sign it and spread the word.
Still, if nothing happens, maybe get a sony xperia active. It has ip67 and hd recording and i think its a good alternative if you look for a strong smartphone
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Luckily the CyanogenMod developers are very strong so we will get ICS unofficially. But if you don't need the IP67 certified case I would buy a Nexus phone (the Nexus S isn't that expensive any more) or a Sony (Ericsson). The XPeria Neo or Ray are at the same price level than the Defy but will get ICS in the next months. And because Sony (Ericsson) supports CyanogenMod all devices got CyanogenMod 7.
I would get something with 4" screen and unlocked bootloader. Other then that its just not worthed....
LG 2x come to my mind right now... or something similar.. for a long term...
So let me get this straight, the defy+ cannot be rooted at all??? I had a defy and I loved it tbh. I liked the small size and it did everything I wanted it to do. The only thing I didnt like was motoblur. I got rid of this by rooting it. I WAS contemplating going in for a defy+ but Im starting toi have 2nd thoughts
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So let me get this straight, the defy+ cannot be rooted at all??? I had a defy and I loved it tbh. I liked the small size and it did everything I wanted it to do. The only thing I didnt like was motoblur. I got rid of this by rooting it. I WAS contemplating going in for a defy+ but Im starting toi have 2nd thoughts
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Can be rooted but no custom kernel n other goodness..
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Man if u like defy take it...
Bootloader locked but there are groups like Cyanogen, Miui and peoples like Wajk, quarx, epsylon3... They are doing great work.
Simple argument i allready have ics and i love my defy now
"love your girl, take a defy" or maybe opposite
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So let me get this straight, the defy+ cannot be rooted at all??? I had a defy and I loved it tbh. I liked the small size and it did everything I wanted it to do. The only thing I didnt like was motoblur. I got rid of this by rooting it. I WAS contemplating going in for a defy+ but Im starting toi have 2nd thoughts
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Mind you, it is still an excellent phone. Can be overclocked to 1.3GHz even without an unlocked bootloader and custom kernels. Also it is a very safe phone to play around with, physically cos of its relative ruggedness, and software wise because the locked bootloader means chances of bricking by doing something related to custom ROMs are nil.
I just have bought a Defy... should I have waited for the Defy+? Or Defy+ is not as good as de Vanilla one?
I would not buy another motorola defy by the locked bootloader, my next phone will have unlocked bootloader
Motorola sucks
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I would not buy another motorola defy by the locked bootloader, my next phone will have unlocked bootloader
Motorola sucks
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Me too... No bootloader = No more sales!
DEFY+ is old...... Why not try dual core .....like I9100?
Defy+ Update
Defy+ is great phone with improved motoblur
& here is one more reason to look forward to - ICS update for Defy+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378691
I would have bought it if I am at your place ..... its got official cm7 miui etc and have great dev support thumbs up .....
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Defy+ is great!
I'm also really satisfied with my Defy+. Rooted, MS2Ginger 2.1 with all patches (except the ones which have something to do with Blur), V6 Supercharger, now it is quite fast, good for playing around (testing different ROMs, nearly unbrickable) and really sturdy (even more with Otter Box Commuter Case). The size is also perfect.
May not be state-of-the-art hardware but has the potential to be a good phone even alongside the next generations of smartphones.