http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxToOTjmviw&feature=player_embedded
YES COME ON!!!!
So all they did is make it look better cause all I see is the phone apps green the browsers blue and the status bar is black
Rocking The EVO and The HERO
ok, i watched that without audio. looks no diff than 2.2 and showing off voice controls which we already have ti a point?
not impressed.
Video is old(1 week) and not supposed to show off gingerbread. It is showing the features of new google voice search. They just accidentally used a GB phone. And no we will probably not get many ui changes before 3.0.
I think that Google said the UI changes would come with Android 3.0,they never said Gingerbread.It's just that at that point we thought that Gingerbread was actually 3.0 and not 2.3.
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I think that Google said the UI changes would come with Android 3.0,they never said Gingerbread.It's just that at that point we thought that Gingerbread was actually 3.0 and not 2.3.
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that's what I assumed too
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that's what I assumed too
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yep the ui changes are coming in android 3.0, this will also be called gingerbread, the reson they are both called gingerbread is, google is splitting android into two branches, the 2.X branch for mid to low end smatphones and the 3.X branch for high end smartphones and tablets
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yep the ui changes are coming in android 3.0, this will also be called gingerbread, the reson they are both called gingerbread is, google is splitting android into two branches, the 2.X branch for mid to low end smatphones and the 3.X branch for high end smartphones and tablets
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And our Desire is considered as what device? Low/Mid end or High end?
Probably classed as a highend smart phone.
As far as i'm aware, the Desire won't be supported when it comes to GB. I'm guessing the guys here will figure it all out but it won't be official.
what matters is that we get it. and lets be fair here, the roms guys on this forum give us are better then the officials in many ways. - aesthetics, battery life, performance, options/freedom
i have a desire and am running a desire hd rom that runs very well. vanilla gingy will be <yawn> i think. the dudes in the dev forum will make it into something great, i don't doubt that
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Does TP2 meet ANDROID 2.2's hardware requirements?
Nope. most devices that would get a froyo update have snapdragons under the hood something our rhodiums dont have
ive read in several places and posts frm owners that the FROYO is overhyped. or not really all that much different frm the previous releases. i know its supposedly alot faster with the JIT Compiling. i guess thats the main difference and the fact that the new flash player10 wrks great with it. people sleeping on Rhodium. its always like that with new devices. they get upgraded processors. there are ways around that, which i hope someone figures out soon ;-) just like with cars, we can tweak it to at least get closer to Snapdragon speeds.
overclocking the processer or tweaking froyo
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well i meant overclocking the processor to where its faster and still stable. tweaking could probaly also be done on the software(FROYO) side of things. if older phones with even less processing power can port Android, then we can get the Froyo. i know its not that simple but it can be done. just depends on how much wrk someone is willing to put in on it. like for instance, i edited my startup txt to overclock my processor in the android build. im at 633MHz. stock max processor speed in windows mobile is like 528MHz. so with that overclock alone, increased the horsepower..lol, by more thn a hundred. now my live wallpapers fly across the screen instead of stuttering. i have virtually no lag now. plus i could even go up somemore on the overclocking. . it does have a drawbck. if i put the phone to sleep, it wont wake up..lmfao . who cares, just dont put the phone to sleep then. Android on Rhodium is more of a research and testing things out, at least for me. im luvin it so far, so i cant complain about what its missing at the moment. Im grateful for what wrks at the moment. this is the best cab by far that ive ever downloaded, and its free. u cant beat that. basically a free Android OS.
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Nope. most devices that would get a froyo update have snapdragons under the hood something our rhodiums dont have
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bull****.
there is no such "requirement" for froyo.
furthermore, TP2 never had an official android release to have an official denial that it will ever be ported.
i'm sure devs are already looking at porting froyo to TP2 and other phones.
Best/easiest case solution is to backport some of the parts of compatible Froyo into the TP2 AOSP Eclair build. This has been a common practice in custom roms. There's already G1 roms with Froyo partially working. There's no reason not to have at least some Froyo features baked into TP2 Eclair.
At this point, whats the use of moving on to Froyo on the TP2? We'll migrate just to restart back to a point where nothing works? Backport some parts of Froyo onto Eclair and beef up Eclair to a point where the major issues are resolved.
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Also, there needs to be more people that have a better working knowledge of Android/linux than just the devs. Fixes, hacks, mods all come from a community effort. Not enough information is shared on this forum, and it comes at the cost of progression for our devices.
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There's no reason not to have at least some Froyo features baked into TP2 Eclair.
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so do it. talking is easy, actually doing takes skills.
In theory 2.2 should run better on the rhodium than 2.1 ever has now that it has a huge upgrade to the Dalvik vm JIT, meaning this makes much better use of the processor, this is proven in the current builds on the nexus one. I agree that we would essentially be starting over as far as useability but the developers have already done the ground work so a full upgrade to 2.2 will not take as long as the first porting of android. So if you all just want to sit back and be happy with what you have than go ahead, but in my opinion 2.2 would be a very valuable upgrade as i'm sure that 2.3 and beyond will be.
No, It can be done on every Android Phone, so also the TP2 would be able (if you look at the specs) to run Android 2.2.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...t-even-the-g1-google-io-blitz-coverage-day-1/
And it will make the devices faster So I think there is a possability. I hope the android devs for TP2 will give it a try
Yes it can, but it will take a lot of work
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HTC will release official froyo rom for HERO and later devices, TP2 has same hardware installed as HERO
but the key problem is drivers, HERO's screen solution is lower than TP2, so HERO have different GPU driver to TP2
i hope hackers will give us some good idea..hah
I'm ready.. been duel booting android and I have to say I like it.. Didn't think I would but I do. It's faster and easy to use
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I'm ready.. been duel booting android and I have to say I like it.. Didn't think I would but I do. It's faster and easy to use
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how did you do that?
i tried flash dual boot rom which found in TP2 CDMA, but it is always mess up during first time loading
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so do it. talking is easy, actually doing takes skills.
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It is actually easy, I've done it and pretty much anyone can do it with simple common sense on any native Android phone. Making your very personal use ROM with backported parts is really common. It doesn't actually take that much skill because all you're doing is replacing (sometimes) compatible parts and modifying the init.rc and flashing in recovery for the most part.
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how did you do that?
i tried flash dual boot rom which found in TP2 CDMA, but it is always mess up during first time loading
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Are you using the .cab or .rar, I never got the .cab to work, the .rar works perfectly everytime and I do quite of bit of "flashing".
I am willing to stick with 2.1 for the long haul until everything is working.
seeing as 2.2 is supposed to have some drastic changes i think 2.1 is going to be the final for most things, 2.2 codebase while being similar has been drastically enhanced (in some areas)...
I myself cannot wait till the TP2 gets Android 2.2+ (and the COMPLETE ability to boot into android without having to load ANY WM aspects)
does anyone know if they are stopping the nightlies and working on cm7? there haven't been any new ones for any model since the 17th
That's why they have stopped them. Cyanogen said that they are all working hard on Gingerbread, so it's only logical that they would stop all work on Froyo
do you think there's any more froyese to be made or is that a moot point as everything is just dumped into gingerbread? Especially now that drivers are completely different with gb?
Also I reckon once the full base is laid people will bring GB features back into froyo for the dream and other smaller devices. Or a mosh.
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do you think there's any more froyese to be made or is that a moot point as everything is just dumped into gingerbread? Especially now that drivers are completely different with gb?
Also I reckon once the full base is laid people will bring GB features back into froyo for the dream and other smaller devices. Or a mosh.
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I'm sure most devs there will still be small updates being made to the current ROMs already out, like Enom for example. He usually releases stock ROMs with some modifications or themes, for the most part. I don't see him releasing a GB rom until the official rolls out.
Keep in mind Sense ROMs don't even factor into this. They are two different things.
Cyanogen on the other hand, won't make another update to CM6, at least for the G2 IMO. He always pushes to have the greatest and latest on our phones, hence his push for GB.
As to you mentioning people porting over features to Froyo, that may very well be true, but for the most part, I don't think much of that will happen. The Android reps from Google said that any phone that officially runs Froyo now, will run better on GB. I can only deduce that phones will run better running 2.3.
Now, while the G1 did not see a 2.2 update due to hardware requirements, the MT3G did see an official release, which is for the most part a G1 with more internal memory and lacks a keyboard. I hope that this will bring a great improvement to the device speed, and knowing Cyanogen, he will for sure bring it over to the G1.
Just my 2 cents.
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Cyanogen on the other hand, won't make another update to CM6, at least for the G2 IMO. He always pushes to have the greatest and latest on our phones, hence his push for GB.
As to you mentioning people porting over features to Froyo, that may very well be true, but for the most part, I don't think much of that will happen. The Android reps from Google said that any phone that officially runs Froyo now, will run better on GB. I can only deduce that phones will run better running 2.3.
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I somewhat disagree with your point about CM6. Although all the devs are working very hard to bring GB to the G2, I don't believe Cyanogen or anyone else has said that there won't be another CM6 update. That doesn't mean they will but, imho, I think there may be at least one more update to CM6 for the G2. At least I hope so!
I do believe in the possibility of another experimental update coming to other devices maybe, but Cyanogen said himself on twitter to AndroidSpin that there will be no further stable releases for CM6 due to Gingerbread's release.
That's not to say that others of TeamDouche who manage other devices won't keep CM6 alive for a little while longer, at least.
I'm asking this because i heard on other forums and also saw it on youtube that some people who got 2.2 update on defy (o2 germany i believe), some of them have 1ghz cpu on stock...so if someone can confirm this if o2 2.2 update actualyl increases the clock speed to 1ghz?
no reply? does anyone even know anything about it?
Feel free to read the Android dev forum. Instructions on there to flash your phone and up your clockspeed, at your own risk! People already running at 1.2 ghz.
2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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I join the question...
i'm using one of the leaked versions and it's working pretty well ...
Actually many reported the leaked Chinese Froyo was default to 1ghz.
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1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
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Not as long as the bootloader remains locked. One of several things needs to happen: Moto releases a Gingerbread for Defy (or it's leaked), the bootloader is cracked, or a new bootloader that is not locked is released.
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I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy
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That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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Google have stated that Honeycomb is for tablets, not phones.
Then again, Froyo supposedly isn't for tablets but that hasn't stopped companies releasing ones running it, so who knows.
Certainly the proper dual-core utilisation that Honeycomb will bring would be useful for the likes of the Optimus 2X or the Atrix, so there'd be some motivation for manufacturers to use it.
But, at the same time, I have no doubt that Google will release a handset-oriented version of Android that will add features like that.
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Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
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That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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You just repeated what i said by proving me wrong lol. Read what i actually wrote.
I said that performance wise, yes defy can handle 2.3 BUT when it's taking ages just to release 2.2, what do you guess about 2.3 comming to defy and we actually don't know if they plan to do that or not. That is motorola's choice
I understand that you said it can handle it but linking to an article about LG is a waste of time, it has nothing to do with the Defy in the slightest.
All you're doing is confusing matters.
Anyone have an idea when it will be released?... Theories? I am nearing the end of my 14 day return for my Inc 2 and noticed today that the X2 is supposedly going up for sale on May 26th WITH Gingerbread. Thoughts?
Umm have been reading on this and my question is why do you want ginger bread ? its just "Updated" version with nothing that is really new .
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Umm have been reading on this and my question is why do you want ginger bread ? its just "Updated" version with nothing that is really new .
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Are you serious? GB is significantly different from froyo. Better power and application management, NFC support, VoiP/SIP calls, SIP audio for video calling, better download management for HTTP downloads, new sensor support(gyroscope), audio, graphic and touch screen input enhancements for game developers, support for webm/VP8 video playback, aac audio encoding and bumped api's to 10 with more support for native code.
Not to mention the new skin for AOSP and the new multi touch KB. I'm sure I left out a bunch of stuff but that's what I can recall from reading. So that being said you should take a moment and actually do a bit of research before posting a response like that.
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Okay true .. but I'm not freaking out like "Oh I WANT Gingerbread already" there is no point in begging for it .. its more like you will get when you get it.
But then again, it shouldn't be the case that we're still stuck on Froyo when Gingerbread has been out for so long already and Google has already announced Ice Cream Sandwich.
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But then again, it shouldn't be the case that we're still stuck on Froyo when Gingerbread has been out for so long already and Google has already announced Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Again you guys need to research or have some actual information on the subject posted. GB is only running on a handful of devices (officially) and ICS will not be out for a while. So GB will come I'm sure, in its own time. So the majority of handset owners are "stuck" on froyo. Keep in mind any device with a custom UI is going to take longer than a vanilla device.
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The Inc1 is getting it...... so I'm assuming we will as well..
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The Inc1 is getting it...... so I'm assuming we will as well..
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I have no doubt just a matter of when not if. And when root comes (ever the optimist) we will likely have even more choices.
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I've read in many articles that, HTC said that gingerbread would come in Q2, Since the end of Q2 is in june, i don't see why we wouldn't get in then, especially if the first incredible is supposed to get it in summer. Motorola isn't going to let the Droid X get gingerbread before the X2, i don't imagine HTC will let the first incredible get it before the inc2
I would agree too, I think they are waiting to release the bug fixes like backwards maps in the GB release. Costs them too much to keep pushing out patches.
i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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WHOAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is freakin awesome news!!
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WHOAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is freakin awesome news!!
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Was there any doubt? I mean the original Inc is getting it the DX and D2 are as well. Seems a no brainer imo.
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well i knew it was coming but hearing that it is likely soon is what i was reacting to
Do we have any inkling as to what GB will look like and what flavor of Sense 2.1 we will get? The leak of GB for the Thunderbolt had Sense 2.1 with the Sense 3 notification pull down, but not the new lockscreen. The HTC Flyer is running GB and Sense 2.1, but the lockscreen is the Sense 3 style. I would love to get the lockscreen and the quick settings in the pull down.
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Do we have any inkling as to what GB will look like and what flavor of Sense 2.1 we will get? The leak of GB for the Thunderbolt had Sense 2.1 with the Sense 3 notification pull down, but not the new lockscreen. The HTC Flyer is running GB and Sense 2.1, but the lockscreen is the Sense 3 style. I would love to get the lockscreen and the quick settings in the pull down.
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once(if) we get root, DEVs can get us the 3.0 lockscreen the inc1 already has ROMs using it.
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once(if) we get root, DEVs can get us the 3.0 lockscreen the inc1 already has ROMs using it.
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I am all for this, but it would be nice to see it come as part of the update from VZW/HTC. If HTC already has it for Sense 2.1, lets see it on our devices when they get updated.
I've read that only dual core devices will get the full on sense 3.0 experience(officially). Maybe jcase or one of the devs in the know could verify this?
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The gb version I see is similar to the version the bolt shipped with. It's sense 2.1. No lock screen goodies.
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i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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I can hope...just make root easier now, haha.
With a Sense 4a/ICS Sense ROM, this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598865), my Limited Edition Spiderman Beats By Dre headphones, some theming of my own, and a white case, I am going to transform my DINC2 into what I call an "HTC One Incredible S"
ok?
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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ok?
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Freedom of posts in the general section, just take your ignorance elsewhere bro -_-
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Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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thanks for telling me that, didn't know thanks.
ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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Yea the great thing I like about sense 4 is that beats is integrated throughout. So it works on YouTube and Pandora
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
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Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
juzz86 said:
Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
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most likely they started working on the older devices later, and by then 4.0.4 was in aosp id guess
given that htc updates on the same os version so frequently, id imagine the evo 3d/sensation/rezound will move up as well
some of the msm7x30 devices on gb at points had 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, and 2.3.6 (dont think any of that chipset ever saw 2.3.7)
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I just got it and hr ago, sadly they just sent the extended battery ( free ) today so I can't use it until tomorrow. But that's true no Sense 4.0 just 3.6 :/ But hey any add on to ICS is amazing to me. I love sense But I'm going to flash sense 3.6 + ics rom, beats audio + xloud patch, capacitive button fix, touch recovery, and etc. I wish I could get the on - screen htc version of the ics softkeys and disable the capacitive buttons + lights that would really be cool ^_^