does anyone know if they are stopping the nightlies and working on cm7? there haven't been any new ones for any model since the 17th
That's why they have stopped them. Cyanogen said that they are all working hard on Gingerbread, so it's only logical that they would stop all work on Froyo
do you think there's any more froyese to be made or is that a moot point as everything is just dumped into gingerbread? Especially now that drivers are completely different with gb?
Also I reckon once the full base is laid people will bring GB features back into froyo for the dream and other smaller devices. Or a mosh.
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do you think there's any more froyese to be made or is that a moot point as everything is just dumped into gingerbread? Especially now that drivers are completely different with gb?
Also I reckon once the full base is laid people will bring GB features back into froyo for the dream and other smaller devices. Or a mosh.
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I'm sure most devs there will still be small updates being made to the current ROMs already out, like Enom for example. He usually releases stock ROMs with some modifications or themes, for the most part. I don't see him releasing a GB rom until the official rolls out.
Keep in mind Sense ROMs don't even factor into this. They are two different things.
Cyanogen on the other hand, won't make another update to CM6, at least for the G2 IMO. He always pushes to have the greatest and latest on our phones, hence his push for GB.
As to you mentioning people porting over features to Froyo, that may very well be true, but for the most part, I don't think much of that will happen. The Android reps from Google said that any phone that officially runs Froyo now, will run better on GB. I can only deduce that phones will run better running 2.3.
Now, while the G1 did not see a 2.2 update due to hardware requirements, the MT3G did see an official release, which is for the most part a G1 with more internal memory and lacks a keyboard. I hope that this will bring a great improvement to the device speed, and knowing Cyanogen, he will for sure bring it over to the G1.
Just my 2 cents.
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Cyanogen on the other hand, won't make another update to CM6, at least for the G2 IMO. He always pushes to have the greatest and latest on our phones, hence his push for GB.
As to you mentioning people porting over features to Froyo, that may very well be true, but for the most part, I don't think much of that will happen. The Android reps from Google said that any phone that officially runs Froyo now, will run better on GB. I can only deduce that phones will run better running 2.3.
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I somewhat disagree with your point about CM6. Although all the devs are working very hard to bring GB to the G2, I don't believe Cyanogen or anyone else has said that there won't be another CM6 update. That doesn't mean they will but, imho, I think there may be at least one more update to CM6 for the G2. At least I hope so!
I do believe in the possibility of another experimental update coming to other devices maybe, but Cyanogen said himself on twitter to AndroidSpin that there will be no further stable releases for CM6 due to Gingerbread's release.
That's not to say that others of TeamDouche who manage other devices won't keep CM6 alive for a little while longer, at least.
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Does TP2 meet ANDROID 2.2's hardware requirements?
Nope. most devices that would get a froyo update have snapdragons under the hood something our rhodiums dont have
ive read in several places and posts frm owners that the FROYO is overhyped. or not really all that much different frm the previous releases. i know its supposedly alot faster with the JIT Compiling. i guess thats the main difference and the fact that the new flash player10 wrks great with it. people sleeping on Rhodium. its always like that with new devices. they get upgraded processors. there are ways around that, which i hope someone figures out soon ;-) just like with cars, we can tweak it to at least get closer to Snapdragon speeds.
overclocking the processer or tweaking froyo
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overclocking the processer or tweaking froyo
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well i meant overclocking the processor to where its faster and still stable. tweaking could probaly also be done on the software(FROYO) side of things. if older phones with even less processing power can port Android, then we can get the Froyo. i know its not that simple but it can be done. just depends on how much wrk someone is willing to put in on it. like for instance, i edited my startup txt to overclock my processor in the android build. im at 633MHz. stock max processor speed in windows mobile is like 528MHz. so with that overclock alone, increased the horsepower..lol, by more thn a hundred. now my live wallpapers fly across the screen instead of stuttering. i have virtually no lag now. plus i could even go up somemore on the overclocking. . it does have a drawbck. if i put the phone to sleep, it wont wake up..lmfao . who cares, just dont put the phone to sleep then. Android on Rhodium is more of a research and testing things out, at least for me. im luvin it so far, so i cant complain about what its missing at the moment. Im grateful for what wrks at the moment. this is the best cab by far that ive ever downloaded, and its free. u cant beat that. basically a free Android OS.
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Nope. most devices that would get a froyo update have snapdragons under the hood something our rhodiums dont have
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bull****.
there is no such "requirement" for froyo.
furthermore, TP2 never had an official android release to have an official denial that it will ever be ported.
i'm sure devs are already looking at porting froyo to TP2 and other phones.
Best/easiest case solution is to backport some of the parts of compatible Froyo into the TP2 AOSP Eclair build. This has been a common practice in custom roms. There's already G1 roms with Froyo partially working. There's no reason not to have at least some Froyo features baked into TP2 Eclair.
At this point, whats the use of moving on to Froyo on the TP2? We'll migrate just to restart back to a point where nothing works? Backport some parts of Froyo onto Eclair and beef up Eclair to a point where the major issues are resolved.
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Also, there needs to be more people that have a better working knowledge of Android/linux than just the devs. Fixes, hacks, mods all come from a community effort. Not enough information is shared on this forum, and it comes at the cost of progression for our devices.
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There's no reason not to have at least some Froyo features baked into TP2 Eclair.
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so do it. talking is easy, actually doing takes skills.
In theory 2.2 should run better on the rhodium than 2.1 ever has now that it has a huge upgrade to the Dalvik vm JIT, meaning this makes much better use of the processor, this is proven in the current builds on the nexus one. I agree that we would essentially be starting over as far as useability but the developers have already done the ground work so a full upgrade to 2.2 will not take as long as the first porting of android. So if you all just want to sit back and be happy with what you have than go ahead, but in my opinion 2.2 would be a very valuable upgrade as i'm sure that 2.3 and beyond will be.
No, It can be done on every Android Phone, so also the TP2 would be able (if you look at the specs) to run Android 2.2.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...t-even-the-g1-google-io-blitz-coverage-day-1/
And it will make the devices faster So I think there is a possability. I hope the android devs for TP2 will give it a try
Yes it can, but it will take a lot of work
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Nope. most devices that would get a froyo update have snapdragons under the hood something our rhodiums dont have
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HTC will release official froyo rom for HERO and later devices, TP2 has same hardware installed as HERO
but the key problem is drivers, HERO's screen solution is lower than TP2, so HERO have different GPU driver to TP2
i hope hackers will give us some good idea..hah
I'm ready.. been duel booting android and I have to say I like it.. Didn't think I would but I do. It's faster and easy to use
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I'm ready.. been duel booting android and I have to say I like it.. Didn't think I would but I do. It's faster and easy to use
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how did you do that?
i tried flash dual boot rom which found in TP2 CDMA, but it is always mess up during first time loading
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so do it. talking is easy, actually doing takes skills.
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It is actually easy, I've done it and pretty much anyone can do it with simple common sense on any native Android phone. Making your very personal use ROM with backported parts is really common. It doesn't actually take that much skill because all you're doing is replacing (sometimes) compatible parts and modifying the init.rc and flashing in recovery for the most part.
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how did you do that?
i tried flash dual boot rom which found in TP2 CDMA, but it is always mess up during first time loading
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Are you using the .cab or .rar, I never got the .cab to work, the .rar works perfectly everytime and I do quite of bit of "flashing".
I am willing to stick with 2.1 for the long haul until everything is working.
seeing as 2.2 is supposed to have some drastic changes i think 2.1 is going to be the final for most things, 2.2 codebase while being similar has been drastically enhanced (in some areas)...
I myself cannot wait till the TP2 gets Android 2.2+ (and the COMPLETE ability to boot into android without having to load ANY WM aspects)
Has anyone used EvolutionX2 or any dependable, stable Froyo ROMs? Any downsides?
I'm pretty anxious to see a good Froyo build, but I'm not keen on loosing my camera, 4G, etc and I'm not very adept with adb to troubleshoot the 4G stuff (I use 4G in my car for Pandora all the time so its pretty useful for me).
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Has anyone used EvolutionX2 or any dependable, stable Froyo ROMs? Any downsides?
I'm pretty anxious to see a good Froyo build, but I'm not keen on loosing my camera, 4G, etc and I'm not very adept with adb to troubleshoot the 4G stuff (I use 4G in my car for Pandora all the time so its pretty useful for me).
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Sounds like the current Froyo roms are not for you. I love them, but then I don't care much for 4G.
Froyo isn't for you..stick with the 2.1 ROMS.
Do you think after HTC and Sprint release Froyo and we can get the kernals, drivers, etc then the build qualities will shoot through the roof? Like are the builds now sub-par because everything is being patched together with trial and error or what?
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Do you think after HTC and Sprint release Froyo and we can get the kernals, drivers, etc then the build qualities will shoot through the roof? Like are the builds now sub-par because everything is being patched together with trial and error or what?
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You can expect to see fixes for the current Froyo ROMs soon. HTC released the kernel source a couple of days back and that is basically all they needed to fix the camera,4G,etc
Is the G2 worth rooting with the release of 2.3 around the corner??? Should I root and wait for a stable room or wait for 2.3 then decide on rooting??? I am also running a rooted Nexus One so I am not new to the rooting world...
Honestly it is worth it even if 2.3 is around the corner. I said to myself I wasn't going to root it but I missed being able to show off certain aspects of my phone (came from a G1.)But RUMOR has it that Cyanogen is going to work on CM7 (2.3) AOSP based rom. Who knows when an official release will be but just know for now you can play around with SENSE UI and Vanilla soon MIUI.
Might as well. Cm 6.1 is stable, and by having an already rooted phone you'll have less work to do once gingerbread comes around and there's no risk of accidentally accepting a future ota that locks it down further.
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Honestly... Do you actually think anyone in the DEV-section of this DEV-forum will tell you to NOT ROOT?
Go ahead and have yourself some fun!!
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Honestly it is worth it even if 2.3 is around the corner. I said to myself I wasn't going to root it but I missed being able to show off certain aspects of my phone (came from a G1.)But RUMOR has it that Cyanogen is going to work on CM7 (2.3) AOSP based rom. Who knows when an official release will be but just know for now you can play around with SENSE UI and Vanilla soon MIUI.
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Rumor or not, I would be willing to bet that Cyanogen releases a ROM based off of 2.3 sooner than an OTA update is available.
And the current CM 6.1 is a GREAT ROM in itself.
In my opinion you're doing yourself a disservice by NOT rooting.
Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Android is by far the best medium for end users. But the major hold up is that the source code has been held out by samsung. There was a leak of the source code recently. The rom to look for is Cyanogen. These guys build it from the ground up with no source code. If you really want to try a gingerbread leak . This is a good one. He also has a 2.2 android that is complete no bugs. here is the link to gingerbread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190337
And the link to his 2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146630
At the moment I am using the beta cyanogen very close to completion. It is 2.3.7 and it runs smooth and fast. There are a few minor bugs like no 4g. The 4g was not a big deal for me as it only covered a small area for me.
Cyanogen link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299621
Let us know if you need more help
Can tell you are new. Gingerbread is still only a leak. However kernel source was released for 2 days. If you look in Development and read the OPs on the ROMs find one based on the released source like the one with Heimdall in the title. They are stable with no reboots.
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AndroAsc said:
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Yes... You've got it wrong. Hacking can only get you so far... Major version updates require source from the manufacturers.
If you want timely updates switch to iOS. With Android it's not *when* you're getting updates but *if* you're getting updates.
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
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Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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I'm currently running ACS' ICS beta rom. The ICS is just a launcher but its nifty. If you want a pretty stable eh17 rom w/o the ICS I used titanium to uninstall the launcher (and the other 2 launchers [beats me]) and used launcher pro plus. Makes for a stable gingy rom. I've also flashed the eh17 honeycomb explosion theme. Looks great and run awesome.
Supposedly nubernal fixes reboots... ill see as soon as I find time to flash
Lord Syrics Jr.
EPIC 4G
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Eh17+ (soon nubernal)
There's always going to be bugs... Especially when devs start modifying what was most times just crap to begin with.
I strive to put out a stable ROM, but when you want to update something, something else may not always act as it did.
I'm in the midst of getting a second test version out of my ROM... Come back tonight and check it out. If you're into something semi-stock, then you'll like what i have to offer. =)
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I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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For the most part, "Android is open source" only applies to device manufacturers, and owners of Google-branded Nexus devices. The latter of which have (nearly) all platform source code available in Git repositories, including instructions for building a source-based ROM for them.
Third-party manufacturers do not release the majority of Android platform code for their devices. Some of this, like custom UI code, is not particularly relevant to us. But other of this, including proprietary kernel modules and userspace drivers for peripherals, is very much relevant. Not having the source to this makes getting full functionality out of source-based ROMs rather difficult. It doesn't help that Samsung's devices are "uniquely different" from HTC and others which makes porting source-based ROMs to them painful to begin with.
Ok... so in other words, to have a stable usable and relatively bug-free release of Android OS, we will need the carriers to release some official version for it?
Not necessarily. However it is often easier to support a new version of Android if the manufactuer provides an update to it.
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Ok... so in other words, to have a stable usable and relatively bug-free release of Android OS, we will need the carriers to release some official version for it?
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No. I've been running GB forever now. Most of the issues were temp slip ups with roms or themes. The only pervasive one in all the leaked based roms is the reboots, which frankly I never found to be as big of a deal as many made it out to be. Our best guess is that it is sleep related, so in other words, it only happens when your phone is sitting untouched.
I had them quite a bit, but really not a big deal.
Install ACS ICS v6, and the nubernel kernel, and the reboots aren't an issue either.
At this point I couldn't care less if the official ever drops. (Not that I think it wont, it's just, also, IMHO, not nearly as large of a concern as some are making it.) To the extent I DO care, it's only because it will probably consolidate the efforts of the devs. Lots of work still being done on Froyo roms, and there's probably some hesitation on getting involved in any particular leak, because you never know when another leak will drop and make everything you're doing outdated.
Edit: This is anecdotal, but most of the "problems" people report are from people who seem to give gingerbread a shot for about 5 seconds. I'm willing to bet most of them restore data, or a titanium backup, from their froyo rom, then attribute any problems to gingerbread being buggy. It's not. It's fine. If anything a lot of the real not-just-whining outrage is over how GOOD it is. (AKA, the leaks are so solid, what's the hold up exactly)
So basically i found this through the news on xda-dev main site :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
Its how to port Jelly bean to your device, if someone could just do that, we would have jelly bean..right?
could someone with experiences please try it out? Would be kick-ass if it worked!:victory:
We don't have JB because the source hasn't been released; sure, someone can port a JB build to our device but since no drivers have been released it would be buggy as hell. What would be the point of having JB if it rendered your device unusable?
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Simply put, the best luck the Vision/DZ/G2 has of getting JB is if there is an official Rom released for it (or released to hardware that is very very very similar to the phone's own hardware).
Thus why it took a while for any 'decent' ICS roms to show up on the DZ, and even then some stuff still doesn't work as well as gingerbread (i.e.: the camera and other hardware that HTC has not released the source for yet, or may never do so).
So it's going to be a while before you actually see an 'alpha' quality functioning JB rom for Vision/G2/DZ. Especially since HTC has no plans to release ICS for this phone, everything after gingerbread will most likely have to be reverse engineered.
If it was just easy as all that it would have been done already.
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Simply put, the best luck the Vision/DZ/G2 has of getting JB is if there is an official Rom released for it (or released to hardware that is very very very similar to the phone's own hardware).
Thus why it took a while for any 'decent' ICS roms to show up on the DZ, and even then some stuff still doesn't work as well as gingerbread (i.e.: the camera and other hardware that HTC has not released the source for yet, or may never do so).
So it's going to be a while before you actually see an 'alpha' quality functioning JB rom for Vision/G2/DZ. Especially since HTC has no plans to release ICS for this phone, everything after gingerbread will most likely have to be reverse engineered.
If it was just easy as all that it would have been done already.
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Okai, thanks!
So there are rumours going around the the HTC desire HD Will be updated to J-b, so for example (because the devices are..a little bit similar) Someone could work on it.and it might work? Right ?
( HTC said when releasing ICS for some devices that they would not update the Desire Z any more / devices with less than 500 ROM RAM right? )
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( HTC said when releasing ICS for some devices that they would not update the Desire Z any more / devices with less than 500 ROM RAM right? )
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Turns out HTC's own staff are idiots, they're talking bout 512MB RAM or less will not get ICS. ROM wouldn't make much sense, since even the Desire-Z can have either 409MB /system or 549MB /system depending on which hboot used.
The DHD has 768 MB RAM, and the HTC blog already confirms that DHD will get it:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
detailed dates here : http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
July-August for the DHD, June-July for the Desire S
But I'm not sure how much of the hardware components in say the DHD is close to that of the Desire-Z so time will tell.
I guess the idea is the device would need enough ram to run smoothly with a stock ICS possibly Sense-Style and default launcher/etc without any sd-ext, ram tweaks, etc. Though I'm already running ICS on my G2 right now, just lacking a smoother camera functionality (in comparison to when on gingerbread), but can shoot pictures and record videos just fine (Can't think of anything else I'm missing exactly).
Jellybean, probably a long way off.
I disagree. By the time the JB source is out, the 3.0 kernel will be even better and a complete replacement for the 2.6 one we're using now. CM will update to 10 and so will the respective ICS roms we have right now.
The only obstacles would be ones related to project butter, but we need the source first in order to really tell.
I would expect beta quality JB roms by August, assuming the JB source is released in the next few weeks.
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